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Politics / Re: Osinbajo: How FG Will Finance 2021 Budget by Infoman51: 7:21am On Oct 11, 2020
Politics / Re: Deborah Folashade Diya Is Dead by Infoman51: 2:18pm On May 20, 2020
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Mesut Ozil Makes Pilgrimage To Mecca (pics) by Infoman51: 12:05pm On May 23, 2016
NwaNimo1:
Thought he was german?
he has origin from turkey and more than 90% of turkishs are muslims

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Crime / Re: 2 Nigerians Caught With Cocaine At Cambodia (photos) by Infoman51: 3:52pm On May 19, 2016
I av checked the names and it is as usual

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Education / Re: University Of Ibadan Postgraduate Programme For 2015/2016 Session by Infoman51: 2:34pm On Sep 22, 2015
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Education / Re: University Of Ibadan Postgraduate Programme For 2015/2016 Session by Infoman51: 1:20pm On Jun 16, 2015
iamayodeji:
You should check out the prospectus.
thanks av seen it
Education / Re: University Of Ibadan Postgraduate Programme For 2015/2016 Session by Infoman51: 11:34pm On Jun 15, 2015
iamayodeji:

You should check out the prospectus.
please send the past question to me techboysaidu3@gmail.com
Education / Re: University Of Ibadan Postgraduate Programme For 2015/2016 Session by Infoman51: 11:34pm On Jun 15, 2015
iamayodeji:
You should check out the prospectus.
please send the past question to me
Crime / Re: Muslim Cleric Rapes 17-Year-Old Girl Severally, Assaults Her Mother In Lagos by Infoman51: 6:42am On Mar 17, 2015
ipunchbitches:
PERVERT JUST LIKE MOHAMMED
pervert like PAUL who hid under celibacy to molest tenagers during his time in which such act catholic priests and pastors are emulating.
Crime / Re: Muslim Cleric Rapes 17-Year-Old Girl Severally, Assaults Her Mother In Lagos by Infoman51: 6:33am On Mar 17, 2015
Akalia:
Muslim clerics R all perverts, just like mohammed
just like PAUL is pervert as catholic prests and pastors raping minors.
Events / Re: How to Achieve the N500,000 Budget Wedding In Nigeria by Infoman51: 11:06am On Mar 14, 2015
Someone that will budget 500k on a day ceremony should be a good earner or else it is Ridiculous!

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Agriculture / Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by Infoman51: 6:29pm On Mar 12, 2015
Please help me, am losing my layers everyday due to paralysis of there legs which start every evening of the day. This has been occuring since more than two weeks ago and i have given them 3 types of antibiotics still it didnt cure it. 25 of the layers in which they are laying eggs have already died.
Politics / Re: Buhari To Face Third Disqualification Suit by Infoman51: 6:49pm On Feb 04, 2015
The only chance Pdp has to win this presidential election is to stop buhari from contesting
Phones / Re: New Release Tecno H6 - The Spec And Price Will "Wow" You by Infoman51: 10:40am On Dec 28, 2014
obaayo2, Heeboy94:
Thanks to both of u
Phones / Re: New Release Tecno H6 - The Spec And Price Will "Wow" You by Infoman51: 10:39am On Dec 28, 2014
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Phones / Re: New Release Tecno H6 - The Spec And Price Will "Wow" You by Infoman51: 7:36am On Dec 28, 2014
Heeboy94:

Drop ur digits
please send me 3 imei for glo to techboysaidu@gmail.com
Politics / Re: Appeal Court Nullifies Osun 2011 Elections by Infoman51: 1:07pm On Oct 11, 2014
2011? But we are in 2014
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 8:43am On Dec 18, 2013
Rexyl:

You are just looking elsewhere to find a way to avoid the truth about God. When Christianity started Paul was not yet converted. Pls take note of this. Christianity started after the ascension of Jesus, just as he promised the disciples to wait in Jerusalem until they received Holy Ghost Baptism. Pls note, Christianity without link with Holy Ghost is like any ordinary religion - like the one you want Paul to belong! But Paul himself was converted and his ministry empowered by Christ from the beginning to the end of his ministry. You are arguing Paul's ministry was separated away from Christ commission? NO. Christ commission before he departed: Matthew 28:18 "Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the son, and of the Holy Ghost", and Act 1:8 "You shall receive power, after that Holy Ghost is come upon you: and you shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and unto utmost part of the earth". Pls read Acts 2, you will discover that Christianity started in the day of PENTECOST by disciples and hundreds of believers, then Paul had not being converted, he was going about persecuting Christians so as to stop spreading of Christianity. Along the way he was arrested by the mighty hand of God, thereafter he was converted. So don't post lies again
Paul considers the Old Testament to be corrupt.He denies, God, Jesus, other Prophets, he opposes Barnabas and Peter strictly because they teach this;http://www.barnabas.net/chapter_index.htmandhttp://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apopet.htmlThey both taught Islam, no divinity of Jesus and no crucifixion."Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake andthineoften infirmities"(1 Tim. 5:23)Doctor Paul’s advise, don’t drink water, drink only wine.Paul says…Rom.12:14"Bless them which persecute you: bless and curse not."But he also says…Acts 23:3"God shall smite thee, thouwhitedwall."Jesus says that he is sent onlyfor Israel inMatthew 10:5andMatthew 15:24and that salvation is for Jews inJohn 4:22but Paul says that Jesus’ message is also for Gentiles inActs 13:47, 18:6, 28:28, Rom.15:16, Eph. 3:8, Acts 20:21, 26:17-18, 20, 23, 22:21, Rom. 1:5, 13, 3:29, 11:11-13, 15:9, Gal. 2:2, 7-9, 3:14, Eph. 3:6, 1 Tim. 2:7, 3:16, 2 Tim. 4:17.Paul said…"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ...."(2Cor. 5:10)Jesus said…"Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man"(John 8:15)"...who made me a judge and a divider over you?"(Luke 12:14)"...for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world"(John12:47) and (John8:50).Paul’s teachings are in contradiction to the teachings of the disciples as well but since he teaches what Jesus did not teach, these proofs aresufficient for us to reject Paul completely.Is having long hair a shameful act?"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, ifa man havelong hair, it is a shame unto him?"(1Cor. 11:14)All the idols that Christians make of Jesus, against the commands of God, have Jesus in long hair in them.Would Hitler be in Christian heaven?"I take you to record thisday, thatI am pure from the blood of all men"(Acts20:26)A few of Paul’s murders are listed below. He is a murderer but still he says that he is free from any sin of murder. This way, even Hitler would be in Christian heaven as murder is a very minor sin and anyone can get away with it."And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men andwomen"(Acts 22:4)"...many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them"(Acts 26:10)"Saul, yet breathing out threatening and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord...."(Acts 9:1)The list of Paul’s murders of the true believers is a very long one. He seems to have adopted the strategy of “If youcan’t beat them, join them” but with his own intentions. Those intentions are very clear to everyone, “To destroy the true religion” of Prophet Jesus (peacebeupon him).
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 8:33am On Dec 18, 2013
Rexyl:

You are just looking elsewhere to find a way to avoid the truth about God. When Christianity started Paul was not yet converted. Pls take note of this. Christianity started after the ascension of Jesus, just as he promised the disciples to wait in Jerusalem until they received Holy Ghost Baptism. Pls note, Christianity without link with Holy Ghost is like any ordinary religion - like the one you want Paul to belong! But Paul himself was converted and his ministry empowered by Christ from the beginning to the end of his ministry. You are arguing Paul's ministry was separated away from Christ commission? NO. Christ commission before he departed: Matthew 28:18 "Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the son, and of the Holy Ghost", and Act 1:8 "You shall receive power, after that Holy Ghost is come upon you: and you shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and unto utmost part of the earth". Pls read Acts 2, you will discover that Christianity started in the day of PENTECOST by disciples and hundreds of believers, then Paul had not being converted, he was going about persecuting Christians so as to stop spreading of Christianity. Along the way he was arrested by the mighty hand of God, thereafter he was converted. So don't post lies again
Paul should not be trustedPaul never met Jesus in his life. This is one of the main reasons to not trust and believe in Paul. Before his self-claimed apostleship, his name was Saul and he used tobe amurdererof the true believers. On the road toDamascus, while on assignment toharassthe true believers, he claims to have seen a vision of Christ, after which, he claimed, that Jesus gave him the authority to teach in his name.There are many problems here.Since he never met Jesus, common sense says that he has nothing to do with the religion and when we read what he has to say, we find that he really has nothing to do with the true religion of Prophet Jesus (peace be uponhim).Letstake a look at Paul’s vision as he describes it to various different people of different races.1. InACTS 9:3, it is stated that only Paul fell to the ground on seeing the light.Verse 7says that others with him stood speechless.2.ACTS 26:14says theyALLfell to the ground.3.ACTS 9:7states that the people who journeyed with Paul didn't see anyone but heard a voice.4.ACTS 22:9says that those who were with Paul saw the light but DID NOT hear the voice of the speaker.The above are clear contradictions and any man would immediately reject Paul completely after reading theseverses. If these are just clear lies and Paul has forgotten where he said what, then it is nothing more than his stupidity but if he is deliberately using this technique to tell different stories to different people, then this technique is still yet present. Such a technique haslaid a very important base of the Church i.e. adopt an approach that suits the person. Festivals like Christmas; Halloween etc have nothing to do with Christianity but the Church has introduced them into it following the footsteps of Paul."But be it so, I did not burden you nevertheless, being crafty, I CAUGHT YOU WITH GUILE."(2 CORINTHIANS 12:16)…and with it, he lies again,1Thess. 2:3"For the appeal we make does not spring from error or impure motives, nor are we trying to trick you."“I say the truth in Christ, I lie not"(Rom.9:1, 1 Tim. 2:7)Paul has introduced this concept of flexibility into Christianity and the Church. This verse also explains the existence of the site Answering-Islam and other similar hate sites where they deceive people and still are following their religion. They deceive and say that they don’t just like their founder Paul.Paul is against the teachings of Prophet Jesus (peacebeupon him).Jesus says…Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but tofulfil. For verily I say unto you,Tillheaven and earth pass, one jot or onetittleshall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever will break one least of these commandmentsand shall teach men so shall be called last in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you unless yourrighteosnessexceeds therighteosnessof the Scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter the kingdom of heaven.Mathew 5:17-20Paul says...'Christians' are dead to the Law of God through the body of Christ.(Romans 7:14)Paul has destroyed the law.Paul is the inventor of original sin(ROMANS5:12, 1 CORINTHIANS15:21-22).Original sin does not exist:http://www.answering-christianity.com/adeel_khan/original_sin_does_not_exist.htmPaul is a blasphemerFor the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, andthe weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.(1 Corinthians 1:25)Leviticus 24:16anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORDmust beput to death.Jesus said...But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again,anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca, ' is answerableto the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be indanger of the fire of hell.(Matthew 5:22)Paul said…“Thoufool, that which thou sows is not quickened, except it die”(1Cor. 15:36)Paul believed Jesus rose fromthe dead as a spirit, not a physical body.It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If thereis a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.(1 Corinthians 15:44)I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit thekingdomofGod, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.(1 Corinthians 15:50)The truth is that Jesus ascended to Heaven in a physical body(Luke 24:51).Paul denied the stories of Elijah and Eliza resurrecting dead bodies to their former state(2Kgs.17:20-23).He also denies the Prophets. His denying these stories shows that he considered the Old Testament to be corrupt as false stories were in it.Paul considers the Old Testament to be corrupt.He denies, God, Jesus, other Prophets, he opposes Barnabas and Peter strictly because they teach this;http://www.barnabas.net/chapter_index.htmandhttp://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apopet.htmlThey both taught Islam, no divinity of Jesus and no crucifixion."Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake andthineoften infirmities"(1 Tim. 5:23)Doctor Paul’s advise, don’t drink water, drink only wine.Paul says…Rom.12:14"Bless them which persecute you: bless and curse not."But he also says…Acts 23:3"God shall smite thee, thouwhitedwall."Jesus says that he is sent onlyfor Israel inMatthew 10:5andMatthew 15:24and that salvation is for Jews inJohn 4:22but Paul says that Jesus’ message is also for Gentiles inActs 13:47, 18:6, 28:28, Rom.15:16, Eph. 3:8, Acts 20:21, 26:17-18, 20, 23, 22:21, Rom. 1:5, 13, 3:29, 11:11-13, 15:9, Gal. 2:2, 7-9, 3:14, Eph. 3:6, 1 Tim. 2:7, 3:16, 2 Tim. 4:17.Paul said…"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ...."(2Cor. 5:10)Jesus said…"Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man"(John 8:15)"...who made me a judge and a divider over you?"(Luke 12:14)"...for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world"(John12:47) and (John8:50).Paul’s teachings are in contradiction to the teachings of the disciples as well but since he teaches what Jesus did not teach, these proofs aresufficient for us to reject Paul completely.Is having long hair a shameful act?"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, ifa man havelong hair, it is a shame unto him?"(1Cor. 11:14)All the idols that Christians make of Jesus, against the commands of God, have Jesus in long hair in them.Would Hitler be in Christian heaven?"I take you to record thisday, thatI am pure from the blood of all men"(Acts20:26)A few of Paul’s murders are listed below. He is a murderer but still he says that he is free from any sin of murder. This way, even Hitler would be in Christian heaven as murder is a very minor sin and anyone can get away with it."And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men andwomen"(Acts 22:4)"...many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when th
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 1:29am On Dec 18, 2013
cloudstar:

What can you teach me Bros. You are blind because of your religious leanings. You refuse to condemn a man that sleeps with children. You refused to answer if you will give your 6 year old to a 54 year old man. You ignored every Quran verse I provided and said you addressed it smiley

It's only God Almighty that can reveal himself to you.
The marriage between prophet Muhammad and Aisha was consummated when Aisha was matured for marriage not at the age 6-year. I have already asked you and your other gullible Christian folks that you should give me evidence in your bible that marriage below 18year is sinful but none of you is able to give me such evidence. if you can't find it in your bible that so called under age marriage is sinful then you dont have basis to condemn it. Islam supports marriage between man and woman regardless of there age differences so far both man and woman are physically and intellectualy fit for marrige and the man seeks the consent of the lady and his parent. Islam is not like Christianity that encourages celibacy which makes these christian celebates to be satisfying there sexual urge by secretly abusing several young girls and boys in there domain. which religion will you prefer, a religion that seeks your consent before marrying your daughter or a religion that secretly sexually abusing your daughter in the name of celibacy? every false allegation you made against islam I have given you the corrrect answers for it but the verses I have been given to you to prove my point in your bible none of it you are able to disprove.
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 12:25am On Dec 18, 2013
cloudstar: Infoman51

Copying and pasting others opinions about the Bible and Christians have been going on for ages. Please present 2 contradictions on what Paul taught and what Jesus taught and I will address them. In the same way, please answer the above I have quoted from one of the most authoritative sources on Islam Ibn Ishaq regarding how Mohammed endorsed the worship of the 3 goddesses and later changed his mind
I have already gave you the comprehensive rebuttal of such false allegations, if you are ready to learn read and digest it so as to clean your brain from the poo you read from anti Islamic sites. Paul message is contradictory to Jesus message that is glaring in the verses I pasted to you.
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 12:14am On Dec 18, 2013
cloudstar:

Fir your history, read: The complete text of Muhammad's episode with Satan is found in writings of the most ancient Muslim historian, Ibn Ishaq.2 The text follows with its footnotes. (T. is an abbreviation for the Muslim historian, at-Tabari.)

The Life of Muhammad

[b](sc. reconciliation) to his people, put upon his tongue ‎‎'these are the exalted Gharaniq 1 ‎whose intercession is approved.' 2 When Quraysh heard that, ‎they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they ‎listened to him; while the believers were holding that what their prophet brought them from their ‎Lord was true, not suspecting a mistake or a vain desire or a slip, and when he reached the ‎prostration ‎3 and the end of the Sura in which he prostrated himself the Muslims prostrated ‎themselves when their prophet prostrated confirming what he brought and obeying his command, ‎and the polytheists of Quraysh and others who were in the mosque prostrated when they heard ‎the mention of their gods, so that everyone in the mosque believer and unbeliever prostrated, ‎except al-Walid b. al-Mughira who was an old man who could not do so, so he took a handful of ‎dirt from the valley and bent over it. Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted ‎at what had been said about their gods, saying, 'Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid ‎fashion. He alleged in what he read that they are the exalted Gharaniq whose intercession is ‎approved.'‎

The news reached the prophet's companions who were in Abyssinia, it being reported that ‎Quraysh had accepted Islam, so some men started to return while others remained behind. Then ‎Gabriel came to the apostle and said, 'What have you done, Muhammad? You have read to these ‎people something I did not bring you from God and you have said what He did not say to you. ‎The apostle was bitterly grieved and was greatly in fear of God. So God sent down (a revelation), ‎for He was merciful to him, comforting him and making light of the affair and telling him that ‎every prophet and apostle before him desired as he desired and wanted what he wanted and Satan ‎interjected something into his desires as he had on his tongue. So God annulled what Satan had ‎suggested and God established His verses i.e. you are just like the prophets and apostles. Then ‎God sent down: 'We have not sent a prophet or apostle before you but when he longed Satan cast ‎suggestions into his longing. But God will annul what Satan has suggested. Then God will ‎establish his verses, God being knowing and wise.' ‎4 Thus God relieved his prophet's grief, and ‎made him feel safe from his fears and annulled what Satan had suggested in the words used ‎above about their gods by his revelation 'Are yours the males and His the females? That were ‎indeed an unfair division' (i.e. most unjust); 'they are nothing but names which your fathers gave ‎them as far as the words 'to whom he pleases and accepts',‎5‎ i.e. how can the intercession of their ‎gods avail with Him?‎

When the annulment of what Satan had put upon the prophet's tongue[/b]
. [b]this is comprehensive rebuttal ofthe false allegation you copied from anti Islamic site: There is no greater lie than the Satanic verses lie. The Prophet never said those verses. To sum up, the story basically says that when the Prophet was leading the prayer one time near the Ka’bah, hewas reciting Surah 53:19-20 and then he said a verse'those are the high-flying cranes and indeed their intercession is to be hoped for' so the Quraysh got happy that the Prophet spoke so positively about their Gods and then also prostratedwith the Muslims when they prostrated in their prayer. Then Allah sent down a verse rebuking the Prophet Muhammad (Surah 17:73-75) and also sent down a verse abrogating the ‘Satanic revelation’ (Surah 22:52).Lets see if this could make any sense…Surah 53 was revealed inthe 5thyear of Prophethood…Ibn Sad says that before this, in the Rajab of the 5th year of Prophethood, a small group of the Companions had emigrated to Abyssinia. Then, when in the Ramadan of the same year this incident took place the news spread that the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had recited Surah An-Najm publicly in the assembly of the Quraish and the whole assembly, including the believers as well as the disbelievers, had fallen down in prostration with him.When the emigrants to Abyssinia heard this news they formed the impression that the disbelievers of Makkah had become Muslims. Thereupon, some of them returned to Makkah in the Shawwal of the 5th year of Prophethood, only to learn that the news was wrong and the conflict between Islam and disbelief was raging as furiously asbefore. Consequently, the second emigration to Abyssinia took place, in which many more people left Makkah.Thus, it becomes almost certain that thisSurah was revealed in the Ramadan of 5th year of Prophethood.(Maududi Commentary on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 53,Source)The verse that came rebuking the Prophet was sent down years later…The very first verse indicates that this Surah was revealed on the occasion ofMi`raj(Ascension). According to the Traditions and books on the life of the Holy Prophet, this event happened one year before Hijrah. Thus, this Surahis one of those,which were revealed in thelast stage of Prophethood at Makkah.(Maududi Commentary on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 17,Source)And the verse that supposedly abrogated the ‘satanic revelation’ came in 1 A.H, which is approximately 8 years after the incident…The sudden change of the style from v. 25 shows that probably vv. 25-78 were sent down in the monthof Zul-Hijjahin the very first year afterHijrah.This is indicated by vv. 25-41 and confirmed by the occasion of therevelation of vv. 39-40.(MaududiCommentary on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 22,Source)Are you trying to say that Muslims believed the Satanic revelations were true revelations for eight years? That would mean that the Quraysh would have believed that the Muslims were pagan worshippers. So if the Quraysh did, then why did they keep on persecuting the Muslims for their beliefs, which is the reason why theHijra took place anyway?Obviously, one should also continue reading the remaining of the Surah…Surah 53:21-25What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which God has sentdown no authority (whatever). They follow nothing butconjecture and what their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just) anything he hankers after? But it is to Godthat the End and the Beginning (of all things) belong.It clearly condemns the deity of these idols, so why need a verse abrogating it?Surah 22:52 is only a general statement…Prophets and messengers (the distinction is explained in n. 2503 to xix. 51) are but human. Their actions arerighteous and their motives pure. But in judging things from a human point of view, the suggestion may come to their mind(from Satan) that it would be good to have power or wealthor influence for furthering Allah'scause, or that it may be good to conciliate some faction which may be irreconcilable. In fact, in Allah's Plan, it may be the opposite. Allah, in His mercy andinspiration, will cancel any false or vain suggestions of this kind, and confirm and strengthen His own Commands and make known His Will in His Signs or revelations.(Yusuf Ali Commentary on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 22:52)(Never sent We a messenger or aProphet before thee) O Muhammad (but when he) the Prophet (recited (the message)) or spoke (Satan proposed (opposition) about that which he recited thereof) such that he does not act upon it. (But Allah abolisheth) but Allah elucidates (that which Satan proposeth) on thetongue of His Prophet such that he does not act upon it. (Then Allah establisheth) then He clarifies (His revelations) for His Prophet in order that he acts upon them. (Allah is Knower) of that which Satan proposes, (Wise) He decrees to abolish it;(Tanwîr al-Miqbâs minTafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs, Commentary on Surah 22:52,Source)Secondly, ONLY FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT. Lets actually say that this whole incident is true and actually happened. This in no way disproves the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace be upon him), itactually does nothing but convince me even more that he truly was a Prophet from God! A Christian missionary wrote anarticletrying toprove that Satan inspired the Quranand I refuted ithere. However, the funny thing is that if the Quran was truly authored by Satan thenwhy on earth would Satan abrogate the ‘satanic revelations’ of Surah 53 and then expose himself? If the Quran is truly inspired by Satan then Satan should have just let people believe in that Satanic revelation. If the Quran is truly authored by Satan then why Satan only bother to expose himself on that specific verse? The truth of thematter is that thisis absolute nonsense. If we wantto accept the story we could only accept this: -Satan deceived the Prophet for those few seconds by whispering those verses into him and tricking him into saying it, however later on God protected his Prophet and rebuked Satan and exposed Satan’s failure in his attempt to bring people into idol worship. Thiscould only show that the author of the Quran truly is God and no one else!Of course, I reject the story. However, if people want to be stubborn and keep shoving it downmy throat then fine! It does nothing more than prove to me that the Quran is indeed a revelation of God.[/b]
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 12:08am On Dec 18, 2013
cloudstar:

Fir your history, read: The complete text of Muhammad's episode with Satan is found in writings of the most ancient Muslim historian, Ibn Ishaq.2 The text follows with its footnotes. (T. is an abbreviation for the Muslim historian, at-Tabari.)

The Life of Muhammad

[b](sc. reconciliation) to his people, put upon his tongue ‎‎'these are the exalted Gharaniq 1 ‎whose intercession is approved.' 2 When Quraysh heard that, ‎they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they ‎listened to him; while the believers were holding that what their prophet brought them from their ‎Lord was true, not suspecting a mistake or a vain desire or a slip, and when he reached the ‎prostration ‎3 and the end of the Sura in which he prostrated himself the Muslims prostrated ‎themselves when their prophet prostrated confirming what he brought and obeying his command, ‎and the polytheists of Quraysh and others who were in the mosque prostrated when they heard ‎the mention of their gods, so that everyone in the mosque believer and unbeliever prostrated, ‎except al-Walid b. al-Mughira who was an old man who could not do so, so he took a handful of ‎dirt from the valley and bent over it. Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted ‎at what had been said about their gods, saying, 'Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid ‎fashion. He alleged in what he read that they are the exalted Gharaniq whose intercession is ‎approved.'‎

The news reached the prophet's companions who were in Abyssinia, it being reported that ‎Quraysh had accepted Islam, so some men started to return while others remained behind. Then ‎Gabriel came to the apostle and said, 'What have you done, Muhammad? You have read to these ‎people something I did not bring you from God and you have said what He did not say to you. ‎The apostle was bitterly grieved and was greatly in fear of God. So God sent down (a revelation), ‎for He was merciful to him, comforting him and making light of the affair and telling him that ‎every prophet and apostle before him desired as he desired and wanted what he wanted and Satan ‎interjected something into his desires as he had on his tongue. So God annulled what Satan had ‎suggested and God established His verses i.e. you are just like the prophets and apostles. Then ‎God sent down: 'We have not sent a prophet or apostle before you but when he longed Satan cast ‎suggestions into his longing. But God will annul what Satan has suggested. Then God will ‎establish his verses, God being knowing and wise.' ‎4 Thus God relieved his prophet's grief, and ‎made him feel safe from his fears and annulled what Satan had suggested in the words used ‎above about their gods by his revelation 'Are yours the males and His the females? That were ‎indeed an unfair division' (i.e. most unjust); 'they are nothing but names which your fathers gave ‎them as far as the words 'to whom he pleases and accepts',‎5‎ i.e. how can the intercession of their ‎gods avail with Him?‎

When the annulment of what Satan had put upon the prophet's tongue[/b]
[b]this is comprehensive rebuttal of the false allegation you copied from anti Islamic site: There is no greater lie than the Satanic verses lie. The Prophet never said those verses. To sum up, the story basically says that when the Prophet was leading the prayer one time near the Ka’bah, hewas reciting Surah 53:19-20 and then he said a verse'those are the high-flying cranes and indeed their intercession is to be hoped for' so the Quraysh got happy that the Prophet spoke so positively about their Gods and then also prostratedwith the Muslims when they prostrated in their prayer. Then Allah sent down a verse rebuking the Prophet Muhammad (Surah 17:73-75) and also sent down a verse abrogating the ‘Satanic revelation’ (Surah 22:52).Lets see if this could make any sense…Surah 53 was revealed in the 5thyear of Prophethood…Ibn Sad says that before this, in the Rajab of the 5th year of Prophethood, a small group of the Companions had emigrated to Abyssinia. Then, when in the Ramadan of the same year this incident took place the news spread that the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had recited Surah An-Najm publicly in the assembly of the Quraish and the whole assembly, including the believers as well as the disbelievers, had fallen down in prostration with him.When the emigrants to Abyssinia heard this news they formed the impression that the disbelievers of Makkah had become Muslims. Thereupon, some of them returned to Makkah in the Shawwal of the 5th year of Prophethood, only to learn that the news was wrong and the conflict between Islam and disbelief was raging as furiously asbefore. Consequently, the second emigration to Abyssinia took place, in which many more people left Makkah.Thus, it becomes almost certain that this Surah was revealed in the Ramadan of 5th year of Prophethood.(Maududi Commentary on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 53,Source)The verse that came rebuking the Prophet was sent down years later…The very first verse indicates that this Surah was revealed on the occasion ofMi`raj(Ascension). According to the Traditions and books on the life of the Holy Prophet, this event happened one year before Hijrah. Thus, this Surahis one of those,which were revealed in the last stage of Prophethood at Makkah.(Maududi Commentary on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 17,Source)And the verse that supposedly abrogated the ‘satanic revelation’ came in 1 A.H, which is approximately 8 years after the incident…The sudden change of the style from v. 25 shows that probably vv. 25-78 were sent down in the monthof Zul-Hijjahin the very first year afterHijrah.This is indicated by vv. 25-41 and confirmed by the occasion of the revelation of vv. 39-40.(Maududi Commentary on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 22,Source)Are you trying to say that Muslims believed the Satanic revelations were true revelations for eight years? That would mean that the Quraysh would have believed that the Muslims were pagan worshippers. So if the Quraysh did, then why did they keep on persecuting the Muslims for their beliefs, which is the reason why theHijra took place anyway?Obviously, one should also continue reading the remaining of the Surah…Surah 53:21-25What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which God has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing butconjecture and what their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just) anything he hankers after? But it is to God that the End and the Beginning (of all things) belong.It clearly condemns the deity of these idols, so why need a verse abrogating it?Surah 22:52 is only a general statement…Prophets and messengers (the distinction is explained in n. 2503 to xix. 51) are but human. Their actions are righteous and their motives pure. But in judging things from a human point of view, the suggestion may come to their mind(from Satan) that it would be good to have power or wealth or influence for furthering Allah's cause, or that it may be good to conciliate some faction which may be irreconcilable. In fact, in Allah's Plan, it may be the opposite. Allah, in His mercy and inspiration, will cancel any false or vain suggestions of this kind, and confirm and strengthen His own Commands and make known His Will in His Signs or revelations.(Yusuf Ali Commentary on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 22:52)(Never sent We a messenger or a Prophet before thee) O Muhammad (but when he) the Prophet (recited (the message)) or spoke (Satan proposed (opposition) about that which he recited thereof) such that he does not act upon it. (But Allah abolisheth) but Allah elucidates (that which Satan proposeth) on thetongue of His Prophet such that he does not act upon it. (Then Allah establisheth) then He clarifies (His revelations) for His Prophet in order that he acts upon them. (Allah is Knower) of that which Satan proposes, (Wise) He decrees to abolish it;(Tanwîr al-Miqbâs minTafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs, Commentary on Surah 22:52,Source)Secondly, ONLY FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT. Lets actually say that this whole incident is true and actually happened. This in no way disproves the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace be upon him), itactually does nothing but convince me even more that he truly was a Prophet from God! A Christian missionary wrote anarticletrying toprove that Satan inspired the Quranand I refuted ithere. However, the funny thing is that if the Quran was truly authored by Satan then why on earth would Satan abrogate the ‘satanic revelations’ of Surah 53 and then expose himself? If the Quran is truly inspired by Satan then Satan should have just let people believe in that Satanic revelation. If the Quran is truly authored by Satan then why Satan only bother to expose himself on that specific verse? The truth of thematter is that this is absolute nonsense. If we want to accept the story we could only accept this: -Satan deceived the Prophet for those few seconds by whispering those verses into him and tricking him into saying it, however later on God protected his Prophet and rebuked Satan and exposed Satan’s failure in his attempt to bring people into idol worship. Thiscould only show that the author of the Quran truly is God and no one else!Of course, I reject the story. However, if people want to be stubborn and keep shoving it downmy throat then fine! It does nothing more than prove to me that the Quran is indeed a revelation of God.[/b]
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 12:01am On Dec 18, 2013
cloudstar:

Christianity means Christ-like. It means, living like Christ did - THAT IT ALL IT MEANS; nothing else. Paul didn't invent Christianity, Paul never taught anything contrary to what Jesus taught. It's only muslims in the entire world that hold such views.
these are several verses in the bible that proved that the message of Jesus is contrary to the message of Paul, who invented Christianity. Paul's Contradictions of Jesus here is a list of the major contradictionsjesus Says Not ToEat Meat Sacrificed to Idols, But Paul Says It Is OK three times Jesus in the Book of Revelation condemns eating meat sacrificed to idols, even saying this is the doctrine of a false prophet. (Rev.2:6,14(Ephesus); Rev.2:14-15 (Pergamum); Revelation 2:20(Thyatira).)This absolute prescription also was set forth in James' ruling at the Jerusalem Council in Acts15:20. Then it is repeated when it was put in a letter. (Acts 15:29.) Finally, James reiterates this for a third and final time in Acts chapter 21. James tells Paul thatmany claim Paul is teaching lawless doctrine. So James reminds Paul what was the ruling at the Jerusalem Council.He tells Paul that previously "we wrote giving judgment that they [i.e., the Gentiles] should keep themselves from things sacrificed to idols...." (Acts 21:25.)However, Paul clearly teaches three times that there is nothing wrong in itself eating meat sacrificed to idols. (Romans14:21;1 Corinthians 8:4-13, and1 Corinthians 10:19-29.) The first time Paul addresses the question of"eating meat sacrificed to idols," Paul answers: "But food will not commend us to God; neither if we eat not...." (1 Cor. 8:8.) Paul then explained it is only necessary to abstain from eatingsuch meat if you are around a"weaker" brother who thinks an idol is something. (1Cor. 8:7,8:10,9:22.) Then, and only then, must you abstain. The reason is that then a brother might be emboldened to do something he thinks is sinful. The brother is weak for believingeating meat sacrificed to an idol is wrong. This is thus a sin for him to eat, even though you know it is not sinful to eat meat sacrificed to idols. Thus, even though you know better than your weaker brother that it is no sin to do so, it is better to abstain in his presence than cause him to sin against his weak conscience and be"destroyed." (1 Cor. 8:11.)As Wikipedia says:A major controversy among early Christians concerned whether it was permissible to eat meat thathad been offered in pagan worship, see also council of Jerusalem.Paul of Tarsus, who agreed to the apostolic Decree, also wrote that it was permitted to do so, as long as a blessing was pronounced over it, and provided that scandal was not caused by it. ("Idolatry and Christianity,"Wikipedia.)For morediscussion, see Chapter Six of Jesus Words Only, available at this link to an html page. Jesus Says The Law Continues, But Paul Says no caveat: The Law given Moses applicable to"foreigners/sojourners" (Gentiles) is a relatively small setof moral commands primarily from Leviticus, incorporating most of the ten Commandments.So if the Law given Moses applies to Gentiles, it is not a burdensome list. Yet, we are stillapplying literally the Law, just asJames did in Acts 15, by treatingthe term "foreigner/sojourners" versus "Israel" as literally as possible. This distinction perfectly explains why James said circumcision does not apply to Gentiles,i.e., Leviticus12:1-3only requires sons of"Israel" to be circumcised. See this webpage where we discuss this issue in more depth.Jesus's View on the Law. Jesus emphasized the validity of the Law up through the passing away of Heaven and Earth, thus confirming its inspiration and ongoing validity.In Matthew5:17-19we read17) Think not that I came to destroy the Law [of Moses]or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil. (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass away from the Law, till all things be accomplished [i.e., all things predicted appear on the stage of history]. (19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, andshall teach men so,shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (ASV)Compare Luke 16:17 similarly says at a different time than the Sermon on the Mount -- meaning Jesus repeated the same point twice:"Itis easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of theLaw. (Luke16:16-17 NIV.)Thus, Jesus can never be accused of seducing any Christian from following the Law. Jesus cannot be a false prophet under Deuteronomy13:5(false prophet is anyone who has miracles and wonders but seduces you from following the Law). Jesus said the Law remained valid until the Heavens and Earth pass away. This passing of heaven and earth occurs at the end of the Millennium. This is 1000 years after Christ's Second Coming, according to the Book of Revelation.Paul's View on the Law. Paul says the opposite.Paulis blunt in Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14, 2 Cor. 3:11-17, Romans7:1-3et seq, and Galatians3:19 et seq. The Law is"abolished,""done away with,""nailed to a tree,""has faded away,' and was "only ordained by angels...who are no gods." If we were to cite Paul's condemnations of the Law in one string, the point is self-evident that Paul abrogated the Law for everyone. See Eph.2:15("setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations"; Col.2:14 ("having blotte ...("Christ is the end of the law"; 2 Cor.3:7("lawof death"; Gal. 5:1 ("entangles"; Col.2:14-17("a shadow"; Rom. 3:27 ("law of works"; Rom.4:15("works wrath"; 2 Cor.3:9(ministration of condemnation); Gal.2:16("cannot justify"; Gal.3:21(cannot give life);Col.2:14("wiped out" exaleipsas); Gal.3:19,4:8-9("given by angels...who are no gods [and are] weak and beggarly celestial beings/elements".Finally, in Romans7:1-6, Paul claims when Jesus died, the husband died and this dissolved the Law's bonds between the husband (God of Sinai) and wife (God's people). This henceforth made the "law dead to us." (Romans7:4.) This death-of-God-the-husband released the Jews, Paul contends, and when Christ resurrected the bonds of marriage with the old God were not renewed.(The implication, we contend, was Paul meant a new God emerges or otherwise if the same husband-God resurrected, why wasn't the bond to the Law renewed? Paulinists come near to admitting this is the only logical meaning while even confessing they are uncomfortable with the passage's 'seemingly' polytheistic explanation... Uggh. On our thorough analysis of Romans 7:1-6, see ourwebpagediscussion.)For more discussion on Paul's abrogation of the Law, see chapter five of Jesus Words Onlyexcerpted at this link.How do those devoted to every word from both Paul and Jesus resolve the contradiction? Here is a perfect example:If [Jesus] is saying [inMatt 5:17by saying He fulfilled the Law, and meant] he is the 'end of the Law' [as Paul taught in Romans 10:4], then why does he say in the next verse that the Law will never disappear?...There is something exasperating about trying to understand a verse like this....What the verse seems to say contradicts what we know from other verses in the New Testament. The truth is we cannot be expected to understand this verse.Bivin, David. Blizzard, Jr., Roy.Understanding the Difficult Words of Jesus: New Insights From A Hebraic Perspective(Destiny Image, 2001) at 113.Incidentally, Bivin-Blizzard offer a Hebrew approach that Jesus' means by saying he did not come to destroy the Law means his interpretations will not weaken its meaning, and to fulfill means to make it more lasting. Even with that, Bivin-Blizzard realize they haven't removed the contradiction between Paul and Jesus.Paul Says The Pharisees Followed The Law Rigorously, But Jesus Says They Were lax about The law Paul says in Philippians3:5-6that as a result of his time as a Pharisee that "astouching righteousness,found blameless." Cf. Acts26:5where Paul says "I conformed to the strictest sect
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 11:30pm On Dec 17, 2013
cloudstar:

Really, the Quran condemned them - please show us Bros.
Surah 53:21-25 What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which God hassent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just) anything he hankers after? But it is to Godthat the End and the Beginning (of all things) belong.from above verses 21 to 25 It clearly condemns the deity of these idols
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 11:23pm On Dec 17, 2013
cloudstar:

Hahahahaha - Then why didn't they write Mary's age in the Bible then? You are so daft. Jesus Christ is the origin of Christianity, not Catholics. NA WA FOR SOME PEOPLE OH!
no Mr dump, Jesus wasn't the founder of Christianity, Paul is the founder of Christianity there is nothing like Christianity during the time of Jesus. what Jesus preached is in Contrary to the basic belief of Christianity. evidences for this better truth are glaring in your bible. tongue
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 11:09pm On Dec 17, 2013
cloudstar:

Why is Mohammed paying homage to them? His tribe worshiped these idols and he did as well. Why does he have them in the Quran, why is he honoring them?
you are just making mere lies without giving prove or did you mean that because Quran made mentioned of these three idols and also condemned them mean Islam honour these idols, that mean to you Islam also honours divinity of Jesus because Quran mentioned and condemned it. if you have such wrong impression then am sorry for your slowpoke reasons.
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 10:27pm On Dec 17, 2013
cloudstar:

Bros, the Bible is not a Catholic book smiley. If it was, the Catholics should have written Mary's age in the Bible - THEY DIDN'T.. There is NO E BIBLE where it mentioned Joseph or Mary's age. So, all these attempts are outside the Bible.
the catholic are the origin of Christianity they know more of Christianity than new founded non orthodox christianity sects
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 10:16pm On Dec 17, 2013
cloudstar:

Since you CAN'T ANSWER IT - YOU SIT BACK AND KEEP QUIET. You are here quoting Bible verses that has nothing to do with Mary age. PLEASE SHOW US WHERE MARY WAS 12-14 WHEN SHE GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS?
he had already answered you by bringing references from catholic's books
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 10:14pm On Dec 17, 2013
cloudstar:

Why is Mohammed paying homage to them?
give me prove that the prophet payed homage to idolatry
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by Infoman51: 9:51pm On Dec 17, 2013
cloudstar:

If I lie, please explain these two verses in this Surah:

Surah (53:19,20) = Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza. And Manat, the third, the other?

Is my wife a stone. Do I travel thousands to miles to Mecca to kiss my wife? Kissing and venerating any object apart from Allah is Shirk - if you don't know that as a muslim, I feel sorry for you. Kissing and worshiping anything else is idolatry and muslims do it every-time they go to Mecca. Is Allah in Mecca? Is Allah in the Kabbah?

Why are muslims kissing it? Why do they travel to kiss this particular stone? Why can't they go to Ogun and kiss all the stones there or to Jos and kiss all the stones there?
this is further explanation of the verse you quoted which is in verse 21-25
Surah 53:21-25 What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which God has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just) anything he hankers after? But it is to God that the End and the Beginning (of all things) belong.

from above verses 21 to 25 It clearly condemns the deity of these idols. Another good response from shaawa: Al uzza and Manat are idols, you just answered yourself that they are pagans arab's gods not muslims.The very idols he destroyed and remove from the Ka'aba at the conqest of mecca. They are very same pagans that engaged him to wars.Try and read about the Jahiliyya period, mecca before islam. Just read with open mind.

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