A child raised in Nigeria is better than a child raised in Yankee (USA)?

My cousin's say otherwise. Though most of the kids they are around are priviledged pampered kids but they say that youngsters in nigeria are just out there. The fact is it does not mater where you were raised it matters more who is raising you.

If you can survive in Nigeria you can survive anywhere in the world!

Outstrip:

My cousin's say otherwise. Though most of the kids they are around are priviledged pampered kids but they say that youngsters in nigeria are just out there. The fact is it does not mater where you were raised it matters more who is raising you.

true

Raymond88:

If you can survive in Nigeria you can survive anywhere in the world!

true, no wonder they are busy complaining about bills bills bills since they are not used to paying for it!
cut corners like no mans business the complain of racism

Its the way your parents raise you that matters

Depends solely on the parents. Yes, the system in America will try it's very best to raise ur kids for you but its ultimately up to you to bring them up the right way.

kokoye:

Depends solely on the parents. Yes, the system in America will try it's very best to raise ur kids for you but its ultimately up to you to bring them up the right way.

True talk, i have couple of my cousins that , you'll hardly believe they were born and breed in the states with the kind of respect they give to elders and to cap it all, they speak yoruba as if they were brought up in lagos.

nah i disagree with this thread

It depends on how the children were raised coupled by other mitigating circumstances crucial to the children's upbringing!

big father:

True talk, i have couple of my cousins that , you'll hardly believe they were born and breed in the states with the kind of respect they give to elders and to cap it all, they speak yoruba as if they were brought up in lagos.

You have just confirmed that it is better to raise children in Nigeria

I disagree.
It depends largely on who is raising the kid and how he is raising the kid.Enviroment is secondary.

Hugger:

You have just confirmed that it is better to raise children in Nigeria

Bros go through my quote. You can raise a child in the tickest part of the forest where there is no civilaisation.It depends on who is raising the child and how.

It depends largely on who is raising the kid and how he is raising the kid.

supported.

Its true that it depends on who is raising up the child and how, however the environment does play huge role also!
You might try your best to be a good parent, be example of good behaviour, but then the kid goes to school, see other mates (how they disrespect their teachers) and plays outside of school with them too and wants’ to be ‘cool’ and ‘in’ and not laughed at.
Here in Uk is huge criminality between teenagers, almost every week kid is being stabbed by other kids (London).
Most families I know is planning to send their kids to NIG when they reach 15 or so, for couple years, to get the sense of schooling/environment back home. That should give them nice lesson!
I’d miss my boy dearly but I do want him to experience his own country in his childhood. The he can go to UNI in Europe, if he’s up for it.

spoony:

Its true that it depends on who is raising up the child and how, however the environment does play huge role also!
You might try your best to be a good parent, be example of good behaviour, but then the kid goes to school, see other mates (how they disrespect their teachers) and plays outside of school with them too and wants’ to be ‘cool’ and ‘in’ and not laughed at.
Here in Uk is huge criminality between teenagers, almost every week kid is being stabbed by other kids (London).
Most families I know is planning to send their kids to NIG when they reach 15 or so, for couple years, to get the sense of schooling/environment back home. That should give them nice lesson!
I’d miss my boy dearly but I do want him to experience his own country in his childhood. The he can go to UNI in Europe, if he’s up for it.

It still comes back to how you parent. I had friends who acted a fool too, that hit their parents, talked back and got expelled but I'll be damned if I brought that to my parents. If you raise your children correctly they won't be sucked in. I'm not saying its an easy job but it can be done.

Dis Guy:

the complain of racism

Nobody complains about racism more than black americans.

Are you telling me you have never faced racism from the other races?

No matter where she is, someone like my mother would still be my mother. If she gives you one eye, berra know what that eye means. If she raises her nose, berra know what it means. Do otherwise and you are finished!

the thing is parents cant completely isolate the child from the environment esp in a country like the UK where the government is slowly taking away the rights of parents, how then do u instill discipline?

most of us raised in Nigeria can still rmbr some of d crzy shit our parents did to put d fear of God into us, most of those methods can put a person in jail in the UK. . . in my opionion that is why d uk has d highest cases of teen prgnancy and under aged drinking!

HR.hotness do i know you?

HR.hotness:

the thing is parents can't completely isolate the child from the environment esp in a country like the UK where the government is slowly taking away the rights of parents, how then do u instill discipline?

most of us raised in Nigeria can still rmbr some of d crzy shit our parents did to put d fear of God into us, most of those methods can put a person in jail in the UK. . . in my opionion that is why d uk has d highest cases of teen prgnancy and under aged drinking!

on the sufface what you are saying looks true  however look at the people involved to know  it is not as easy as it looks on the surface.  the law didnt say dont train or correct your child.  have you noticed every time the law on parental right to smack a child goes to the parliament it fails.  ask yourself why.

the other half of the society dont live like most of these spoilt kids. i have seen kids born here behave better than kids born back home. it is not the kids majority of the problems are with the parents.  you train a child.  children dont train themself and we should not allow Tv and society to train them either.  most people here pursue money at the detrement of their kids and family. it is obscene

most kids born back there in naija have a major disadvantage of knowing and seeing things kids have no business knowing in the first place. it corupts their minds

spoony:

Its true that it depends on who is raising up the child and how, however the environment does play huge role also!
You might try your best to be a good parent, be example of good behaviour, but then the kid goes to school, see other mates (how they disrespect their teachers) and plays outside of school with them too and wants’ to be ‘cool’ and ‘in’ and not laughed at.
Here in Uk is huge criminality between teenagers, almost every week kid is being stabbed by other kids (London).
Most families I know is planning to send their kids to NIG when they reach 15 or so, for couple years, to get the sense of schooling/environment back home. That should give them nice lesson!
I’d miss my boy dearly but I do want him to experience his own country in his childhood. The he can go to UNI in Europe, if he’s up for it.

I agree with u, parents may do their best but when kids go to school they learn diffrent things, they are told in school to report they parents if they beat them, u know it's not really a big beat, one can hit a child at the butus just to correct the child, u won't believe that ur child will go report that u beat him.  

What about this dam hallowee thing do they do it in 9ja no no no, i ve never seen that, but here kids do wear hallowee clothes.

Each morning when i go to drop my kid in the nursery i use to pass in front of a collage where u will see 10,12 -15  yrs children smoking outside.

This can't happen in 9ja, even if they do it they will hid it, becos here moking is becoming a normal thing as parents do smoke in front of their infant children.

the law has given upper hand to kids, and this is affecting their parents.

a real story
There was this boy wanted to apply his school teaching on his father.
he was told that if your father smacked you, call the police.

One day the dad smacked him and he went outside and called the police. The father was arrested and so on.

When the case died down, it was time to go to lagos for Xmas. The father said his other siblings will be going to see granny with mentioning him.
The guy was like, what about me. The said OK he would go. The plan was to arouse his interest on going home.

After holiday, he was left behind in naija where he was enrolled in one local school.

The boy was coming home everyday complaining to the uncle and how he wished to go back. But Unki told him noo, you will call the police for your father and stuff like that.
The bobo begin beg. Finally he was allowed to come back to UK.

You know what? he is the best behaved of the man's children. Na yoruba family I de yan about.

So it depends on the parents but the environment is great factor

@HR.hotness
   Word, raising a child here in Uk is shit, there is a limit u can discipline ur child here in UK,there was a day i heard my neighbour's 10yrs old son saying ''Mum,don't be silly'', her mother didnt raise any eyebrow,no reasonable parents in Nigeria will take that rubbish,i believe the environment contribute largely to how u raise ur kids

damiso:

HR.hotness do i know you?

I dont knw why wld u think u knw me?

JJYOU:

on the sufface what you are saying looks true however look at the people involved to know it is not as easy as it looks on the surface. the law didnt say don't train or correct your child. have you noticed every time the law on parental right to smack a child goes to the parliament it fails. ask yourself why.

the other half of the society don't live like most of these spoilt kids. i have seen kids born here behave better than kids born back home. it is not the kids majority of the problems are with the parents. you train a child. children don't train themself and we should not allow Tv and society to train them either. most people here pursue money at the detrement of their kids and family. it is obscene

most kids born back there in naija have a major disadvantage of knowing and seeing things kids have no business knowing in the first place. it corupts their minds

truth is there is so much decadence in the society that it pretty hard to shield ur child frm all that. . . parents in nigeria pursure money too nah. . . my mum used to wrokd 8 - 12 hr days and we were left to our own devices some of d time, but we never even thot of attempting any of the things d kids here get up to

my aunt has a 12 yr old son and its driving her crazy the things he might be getting up to. . . she is constantly chasing after him tryin to figure out what he gets up to and even with all that he still manages to get into trouble now and again. . . truth is the society here is in filth and d filth is slowly seeping into the homes. its easier for a child to go astray here as everyone tends to mind their business. . . i hav been told off by women i didnt even knw for wearing a dress that was too short, a mother in d nigerin asociety wld stop to scold a young boy of 13 with cigarettes in his hand. . . it might be a little intrusivbe but it serves its purpose, for a child to go astray in d nigerian society, he needs to work extra hard

It ll be a different question to talk of parenting. Every society got good n bad parents, but d issue of environment is clear, d childs acts ll alway be in d pattern of where he is raised. Idnt tink our moral standards are equal, so it ll take extra parenting duties to raise a child in a country with low moral standard.

If you can survive in Nigeria you can survive anywhere in the world!

una go peme for darfur or afghanistan. nigerians and their bravado.  every environment has it's own challenges

so it ll take extra parenting duties to raise a child in a country with low moral standard.

nigerians usually preach high moral standards but don't practice it. this is a country that has about 700,000 abortions annually, high rate of infidelity and std, high corruption and crime rate. so why are we claiming to be morally superior to liberal western nations?/

HR.hotness:

I don't knw why would u think u knw me?


truth is there is so much decadence in the society that it pretty hard to shield ur child frm all that. . . parents in nigeria pursure money too nah. . . my mum used to wrokd 8 - 12 hr days and we were left to our own devices some of d time, but we never even thot of attempting any of the things d kids here get up to

my aunt has a 12 yr old son and its driving her crazy the things he might be getting up to. . . she is constantly chasing after him tryin to figure out what he gets up to and even with all that he still manages to get into trouble now and again. . . truth is the society here is in filth and d filth is slowly seeping into the homes. its easier for a child to go astray here as everyone tends to mind their business. . . i hav been told off by women i didnt even knw for wearing a dress that was too short, a mother in d nigerin asociety would stop to scold a young boy of 13 with cigarettes in his hand. . . it might be a little intrusivbe but it serves its purpose, for a child to go astray in d nigerian society, he needs to work extra hard

I understand your point but i disagree with this

for a child to go astray in d nigerian society, he needs to work extra hard

you may not have been to nigeria recently. i had same opinion because i dont go out until i voiced it and someone took me out into town. you will be shocked to see what kids do back there now. have you not noticed kids brought from nigeria to this place are worse in behaviour.

bawomolo:

una go peme for darfur or afghanistan. nigerians and their bravado.  every environment has it's own challenges

nigerians usually preach high moral standards but don't practice it. this is a country that has about 700,000 abortions annually, high rate of infidelity and std, high corruption and crime rate. so why are we claiming to be morally superior to liberal western nations?/

Wow that's interesting. Where did you get your stat from? Just inetersted not doubting you.

However that is 1.04% of the population of women based on the census figure. Not that this is acceptable.
That may not be the same if you translate the number of abortions in the western countries.

Could you please furnish us with the number of abortions and the female pop in the UK or US?

@bawomolo, try comparing STD transmission rates and teenage pregnancy figures in a proportional manner and you just might discover that Nigeria fares much better than the UK. Bear in mind that the population of Nigeria is 3x that of UK

JustGood
That is exactly why I asked for the source of the stat. and also for the UK stat.

You cannot compare number for number. fair comparison will only be possible if we use statistic parameters. % based on pop. being a good one

"Better" is too broad.
Better in what?
If you say manners, well yes.
Every other aspect, hell no.
The so-called moral upbringing that we rely on is gradually fading. A lot of kids brought up in nigeria nowadays are worse than kids raised in america.
Everyone "forms" now. Do you know the number of kids/young adults who can't/claim they can't speak their native languages?
Its time we wake up and face reality. Nigerian bred kids are probably going to be worse than american kids in the next 2yrs.

Better?

When is not shoe or clothes or DVD or Car we are talking about.

@Topic
not necessarily