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I Hate Being An African American Woman by Brielle86: 6:02pm On Jan 31, 2012
I really have to get something off of my chest.  undecided
But first let me reput. I said: "I HATE BEING AFRICAN AMERICAN but love being black". There's a difference. Trust me!

Omg! How can I say this before everyone gets GEEKED up (I know it's slang)? But seriously, African American are strictly Brain Washed!!! This is 100% true. We care about the wrong things. We are the only culture that's not in a group like the Asians, Mexicans, White, Italians, etc... African American People Hate each other for the smallest and dumbest reason.  Not long ago someone gave me an invitation card to a party titled "Light skin vs dark skin: The first 6 redbones to come after 9pm get in for free". Really!!! Seriously?? You want me to go For real??  undecided Do you know the rapper lil wayne hates dark skinned women? He hates them with a passion. I know his wife is dark skinned and so is their daughter. shocked He said: "They Rich dark skin" and he is allergic to dark chocolate. This man has 7 baby mamas. He is very happy. All are light skin and he is even happier that he has a Chinese BM just for the baby's good hair!!! Wtf! 

Another thing I wanted to share is that Dark African women and men are going to be extinct by 2050 or somewhere about that time. People who were born African American and their parents, their parents of the same color with me, Dark Skin, are going to be extinct. Because of low self-esteem, we are mixing with other cultures instead of our own. Dark skinned people are slowly getting lighter and lighter because that's what is in now. 

I became a victim of wanting to date outside my race. All the black men I dated are completely crazy or prefer lighter women so I moved on. SAD! I love being black because it's so rare now. It's hard to find a dark skinned woman in a crowd.

I love it when people stare at me and ask me about my skin and hair. I'm sorry natural haired girls out there but I couldn't go any longer without getting  a perm.  I stopped using a perm almost half a year ago. And talking about nappy hair, Omg, it was too much to handle but  I managed to get a nice perm and take good care of it. lol! But really, I LOVE it when in summer, I'm black as I can be!! People ask: "What are you mixed with?" I say: "Nothing!" I'm just Black. lol
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by DaRapture: 6:37pm On Jan 31, 2012
I'm an African-American and I say that you are about as ignorant as those whom you are claiming to be so. cheesy I could barely make sense of your nearly incoherent gibberish you've typed up there, full of improper wording, format and information. Practice harder in school little girl, learn how to speak and express yourself properly, then come back and attempt to complain about people. cheesy Your done, good bye.

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by StepG: 6:52pm On Jan 31, 2012
Many are willing to be in your shoes u are here crying. it doesn't make sense to me except if you don't have anything to say. change into what you want to be if the power is within you otherwise shut d Bleep up,

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by Brielle86: 7:18pm On Jan 31, 2012
And this is way we are being instinct !! Just forget the main subject worry about the little things like spelling and format ?? Who said this was a English spelling class !! SAD!
Keep it coming ,

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by Brielle86: 7:23pm On Jan 31, 2012
I met -Why- duh!!?! Let hurry and correct myself lmMFAO
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by StepG: 10:43pm On Jan 31, 2012
Many are willing to be in your shoes u are here crying. it doesn't make sense to me except if you don't have anything to say. change into what you want to be if the power is within you otherwise shut d Bleep up,
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by Zilja(f): 11:45pm On Jan 31, 2012
Brielle86:

I really have to get something off of my chest  undecided
But first let me reput I said I HATE BEING AFRICAN AMERICAN but love being black it's a difference trust me

I too am AA and I couldn’t help but respond to this garbage you are talking.  You speak like you have nothing and on your way to nowhere. (SAD)  You seem to be the one with little to no self-esteem who can’t see what’s in front of you.  You might want to go back and read what Setp-G said “many are willing to be in your shoes and you are here crying”  If you are in the USA, where the land of the FREE is then you might want to take some time and start appreciating what you have.

Do us all a favor…. Give thanks for what you are now, and keep fighting for what you want to be tomorrow.
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by ifyalways(f): 4:43pm On Feb 01, 2012
Quite a looong rant.Much ado about fried kpomo.IMO.

You can't change how folks see/react to your color/race/personality but you have a huge control over how you react to people's perspective/views of you.Chillax

LOL@ many willing to be in her shoes,like seriously and in 2012 ?

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by Nobody: 10:03pm On Feb 01, 2012
I would give a proper reply, but your points are all over the place.

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by amor4ce(m): 2:59am On Feb 02, 2012
Unmarried black women
Down or out
A black male professor kicks up a storm about black women and marriage

Oct 15th 2011 | LOS ANGELES | from the print edition



AT SOME events on his book tour, black men have accused Ralph Richard Banks of advocating genocide. In fact, the Stanford professor of family law has merely written a book called “Is Marriage for White People? How the African-American Marriage Decline Affects Everyone”. But abuse is what you get for suggesting, as Mr Banks does, that black women—not only the “most unmarried” group in American society but also the one that least intermarries with other races—should look to white, Latino or Asian men as potential mates. After all, the alternative is often no marriage or relationship at all.



The collapse of marriage among blacks is well documented (see chart), but not the sexual, psychological, emotional and social toll this has taken on black women. Seven out of ten are single. Of the others, many are forced into “man-sharing”.

This crisis in the black “relationship market”, as Mr Banks calls it, starts with a “man shortage”. About one in ten black men in their early thirties are in prison. As a group, black men have also fallen behind in education and income, just as black women have surged ahead. Two black women graduate from college for every black man. As these women rise into the middle class, the men stay in the lower class, becoming less compatible.

Many black women respond by “marrying down, but not out,” as Mr Banks puts it. But that makes bad marriages. Two out of every three black marriages fail, about twice the rate of white marriages.

The real problem is the behaviour of those few black men who are considered good catches. They often stay unmarried for the opposite reason: they have too many options. As one man told Mr Banks: “If you have four quality women you’re dating and they’re in a rotation, who’s going to rush into a marriage?” Even black men who nominally commit to one woman are five times as likely as their white counterparts to have others on the side.

One way or another, many black women thus become, or stay, single (as two of Mr Banks’s three sisters are). As one woman tells him: “We focus on our careers, our friends, go back to school, whatever. We fill our lives with other things.” But in the hundreds of interviews Mr Banks conducted, he found pervasive sadness.

The most obvious solution, he discovered, also runs into the greatest taboo: intermarriage. This is ironic, because black men are statistically very open to marrying outside their race—more than one in five does. But fewer than one in ten black women intermarries.

For some black women, a white husband brings bad memories of slavery and Jim Crow. Others have conditioned themselves to find non-black men unattractive (lacking “swag”, in the argot). Still others fear that men of other races find black women unattractive, or that their children might be “not black enough”. But by far the most common reason seems to be that black women still regard intermarriage as tantamount to betraying the race. “My black heart,” says one black woman as she contemplates marrying out, “I would need to turn it in.” “We know it’s a struggle,” says another, “but we women got to stand by the black man. If we don’t, who will?"

http://www.economist.com/node/21532296?php%20$this-%3EincludeSnippet%28%27Publishers_Omniture%27%29;%20?%3E

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by TisaBone: 6:31am On Feb 02, 2012
Seriously, you are really paying attention to what Lil Wayne says? The same man that calls a non-relative "daddy?" and who kissed another grown man on the lips? Shame on you for even listening to what he has to say.  



I'm African American too, and no one can tell me anything negative about my heritage or that I am less of a person because of my race and nationality. I'm dark skinned (very dark at that) and sure I got teased. My nickname in school was Shaka Zulu. My feelings were hurt, and I often came home crying. One day,my aunt hollered at me demanded I quit that crying. "Dont you know that Shaka Zulu was a king?" After this incident I slowly but surely began to accept myself for what and who I was. I was black, I was going to be proud of that, and that no one would ever again be the cause of me bowing my head low in shame. What did I have to be ashamed of? My people have been through hell, and have overcome so many obsticles. We were slaves in the land that was built on our backs. Furthermore,if black is so ugly, then why did Thomas Jefferson, second president of the United States, have a black mistress named Sally Hemings who he proceeded to have five children with?
You are a victim of the American establishment which has effectively convinced blacks that they are worthless. Hell, the Africans immigrate to the states even believe these stereotypes ,that they are spoon fed via American televison programming, about about AA's.
   And what's this about you not liking your natural hair? Chile please. I have dreadlocks and do you know how many compliments I get from both black AND white people? Just today I was walking to school, and a boy called out to me "Hi Ms. Natural."Another man called out to me "Hi Queen." So you see there is nothing wrong with being black. It's all in how you carry yourself and what you think of YOU. You care too much about what other races think of you. So what, let them say what they want.
 

  Last but not least, don't you realize that there are plenty of whites who are on our side. You just have to identify them, and make use of them. It is an added bonus if they are Jewish, because as quiet as it's kept, Jews are the ones who really rule the world.

For centuries, black folks have been cleaning up after white folk's mess. After the Bush fiasco, who did they choose as the next president? A proud black man with the charisma and fire of a southern preacher, who could make you believe that the sky is green. That's what we needed to boost the American morale;a black man.

So all in all, what I am trying to get at, is that you really need to know your history. Honey, what I need you to do is look up some of these people:

Garrett Morgan

Phyllis Wheatley

Ben Carson

Langston Hughes

Oscar Micheaux

Ivan Van Sertima ( he's not an African American, but read some of his books, and you will know the truth! That we were once kings and Queens. Many ancient Egyptians were indeed black, and they have left us the great pyramids as their legacy. (the same pyramids that the whites have no clue how they were created, so they lie and create documentaries claiming that they had to have been constructed by aliens)

Also, may I suggest that you go and buy some video's of the comedian Paul Mooney. I love him because he pisses white people off =) he even made it on CNN!


You need to wake up,but more importantly, LOVE YOURSELF!!!!!

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by emofine2(f): 11:20am On Feb 02, 2012
TisaBone:
I'm dark skinned (very dark at that) and sure I got teased. My nickname in school was Shaka Zulu. My feelings were hurt, and I often came home crying. One day,my aunt hollered at me demanded I quit that crying. "Dont you know that Shaka Zulu was a king?"

Love this. Brilliant! grin

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by rabzy: 12:08pm On Feb 02, 2012
Before you can be proud of your race, you need to be proud of yourself.

I am not proud of my race and i am not ashamed of it and i have never wanted to be from any other place. i only wish to improve myself and others i come in contact with. I can't remember ever feeling embarrassed by anything i have done let alone be embarrassed by my skin colour.

People grow up in different places and under different circumstances, but a lot of African-Americans should not always behave like its 'dem against the world or the establishment'. They have been thru a lot and they have triumphed, just on the last lap remaining, they are losing the baton.
I don't understand all these 'am ghetto' and thug love and 'omota' talk they like revelling in.

The black neighborhood of the 40s to 70s where great and proud men and women arose to fight and they won, but the bounties of the war are being given away cheaply now.
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by ADM1(m): 4:21pm On Feb 02, 2012
Brielle86:

I really have to get something off of my chest  undecided
But first let me reput I said I HATE BEING AFRICAN AMERICAN but love being black it's a difference trust me

Omg how can I say this before everyone gets GEEK up(I know the slag language)  But seriously African American are strictly Brain Wash!!! This is 100% true  we care about the wrong things we are the only culture that's not in a group like the asains, Mexicans, whites,Italians etc,  African American People Hates each other  with the smallest dumbest thing  not long ago someone gave me a invitation party title "Light skin vs dark skin" first 6 redbones come after by 9pm get in free Really!!! Seriously ?? You want me to go Foreal ??  undecided did you know the rapper lil wayne hate dark skin women he hates them with a passion Iknow too his wife is dark skin and so is there daughter   shocked he said " they Rich dark skin " and he allergic to dark chocolate this man got 7 baby mamas he is vary happy all is light skin and even happier that he have a Chinese BM for only a good hair baby!!! Wtf  Another thing i wanted to share  is Dark African woman and men are going to be instinct by 2050 somewhere about that time the people that was born here African American and there parents ,their parents as of now my color "Dark Skin" are going to be instinct     Because of low-self-esteem  and we are mixing with other cultures instead of our own. Dark skin people are slowly getting lighter and lighter because that's what it is now 

I became a victim of wanting to date outside my race, all the black men I dated are completely crazy or prefer lighter women so I move on ,  (SAD),  I love being black because it's so rare now it's hard to fine a dark skin woman  in a crowd
I love when people stare at me and ask me about my skin and hair I'm sorry natural hair girls out there I couldn't go any longer without getting  a perm  I stop using a perm all most a half a year & talking about nappy hair!!! Omg it's was too much to handle but  I managed to get a nice perm and taking good care of it.lol  But really I LOVE it  when Its the summer and I'm black as I can be!! People say what you mix with?? I say  Nothing!! I'm just Black  lol

First of all, this is a Nigerian forum. Why are you posting this bulls--t on a Nigerian forum? Second, you need to get a clue. Yes, there is self-hatred among AAs, but there's self-hatred among various non-whites throughout the world. There are Indians in India that wipe skin bleaching creams on their faces and bodies and Koreans in South Korea getting surgery to make their eyes look "western." You think it's only among AAs? As for Lil' Wayne, who cares what he thinks? He's a fool and anybody that listens to whatever he says is a fool. You may think blacks aren't dating each other, but that's false. Very false. Most couples I see are black couples. Seriously, stop caring about what others think of you. You can't control that. As long as you love yourself, nothing else matters. By the way, there are plenty black men that love dark-skinned women like me and there are plenty of blacks that want to preserve their culture.

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by ADM1(m): 4:25pm On Feb 02, 2012
amor4ce:

Unmarried black women
Down or out
A black male professor kicks up a storm about black women and marriage

Oct 15th 2011 | LOS ANGELES | from the print edition



AT SOME events on his book tour, black men have accused Ralph Richard Banks of advocating genocide. In fact, the Stanford professor of family law has merely written a book called “Is Marriage for White People? How the African-American Marriage Decline Affects Everyone”. But abuse is what you get for suggesting, as Mr Banks does, that black women—not only the “most unmarried” group in American society but also the one that least intermarries with other races—should look to white, Latino or Asian men as potential mates. After all, the alternative is often no marriage or relationship at all.



The collapse of marriage among blacks is well documented (see chart), but not the intimate, psychological, emotional and social toll this has taken on black women. Seven out of ten are single. Of the others, many are forced into “man-sharing”.

This crisis in the black “relationship market”, as Mr Banks calls it, starts with a “man shortage”. About one in ten black men in their early thirties are in prison. As a group, black men have also fallen behind in education and income, just as black women have surged ahead. Two black women graduate from college for every black man. As these women rise into the middle class, the men stay in the lower class, becoming less compatible.

Many black women respond by “marrying down, but not out,” as Mr Banks puts it. But that makes bad marriages. Two out of every three black marriages fail, about twice the rate of white marriages.

The real problem is the behaviour of those few black men who are considered good catches. They often stay unmarried for the opposite reason: they have too many options. As one man told Mr Banks: “If you have four quality women you’re dating and they’re in a rotation, who’s going to rush into a marriage?” Even black men who nominally commit to one woman are five times as likely as their white counterparts to have others on the side.

One way or another, many black women thus become, or stay, single (as two of Mr Banks’s three sisters are). As one woman tells him: “We focus on our careers, our friends, go back to school, whatever. We fill our lives with other things.” But in the hundreds of interviews Mr Banks conducted, he found pervasive sadness.

The most obvious solution, he discovered, also runs into the greatest taboo: intermarriage. This is ironic, because black men are statistically very open to marrying outside their race—more than one in five does. But fewer than one in ten black women intermarries.

For some black women, a white husband brings bad memories of slavery and Jim Crow. Others have conditioned themselves to find non-black men unattractive (lacking “swag”, in the argot). Still others fear that men of other races find black women unattractive, or that their children might be “not black enough”. But by far the most common reason seems to be that black women still regard intermarriage as tantamount to betraying the race. “My black heart,” says one black woman as she contemplates marrying out, “I would need to turn it in.” “We know it’s a struggle,” says another, “but we women got to stand by the black man. If we don’t, who will?"

http://www.economist.com/node/21532296?php%20$this-%3EincludeSnippet%28%27Publishers_Omniture%27%29;%20?%3E

This is absolute bulls--t. First of all, the guy wrote the book is a quack. He's a self-hating black person who worships white folks. Second, his numbers concerning black men are false. Third, interracial relationships in the U.S. are not as common as some think. I still see black men and women with each other more than I see them with non-blacks. Absolute bulls--t. What was the point of this?

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by TisaBone: 9:07am On Feb 03, 2012
emöfine:

Love this. Brilliant! grin


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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by NegroNtns(m): 9:28am On Feb 03, 2012
@darapture,

When someone approach you with an emotional pain. Listen to their heart. Do not focus on the grammar.


Brielle,

I believe that there ought to be a cultural adoption programme in Africa for re-absorbing African Americans interested in relocating and re-integrating back into their motherland. Unfortunately, Africa is drugged. . . she is on crack! So an institutionalized remedy can best be forgotten. There is an alternative.

Private and individual persons may exist who would love to adopt an African American as their child or relative and invite you to come to the motherland and live with them. There is big sacrifice on both ends and it will take patience and time before such partnership begin to yield fruit for both. The conveniences in America is absent in Africa. . . . the settler will be impacted most and would be the one transformed by default into the host family and community customs.

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by DaRapture: 10:31pm On Feb 03, 2012
Negro_Ntns:

@darapture,

When someone approach you with an emotional pain. Listen to their heart.  Do not focus on the grammar.


Brielle,

I believe that there ought to be a cultural adoption programme in Africa for re-absorbing African Americans interested in relocating and re-integrating back into their motherland.  Unfortunately, Africa is drugged. . . she is on crack!  So an institutionalized remedy can best be forgotten. There is an alternative.

Private and individual persons may exist who would love to adopt an African American as their child or relative and invite you to come to the motherland and live with them.  There is big sacrifice on both ends and it will take patience and time before such partnership begin to yield fruit for both.  The conveniences in America is absent in Africa. . . . the settler will be impacted most and would be the one transformed by default into the host family and community customs.



I and most other AA would not take part in any plan in which seeks to have a mass of AA integrate into an African nation; it's been attempted before and didn't work out, primarily do to personality clash. Let's face it, we AA are no longer Africans, but rather simply a new breed of Negro, and thus our return should be granted with a new Nation all our own.

It'll be nice if an West and or West-Central African nation would carve out a feasible chunk of territory, say equivalent in size to that of the state of Pennsylvania and New Jersey combined, and grant it the the AA community as a territory in which to structure a new nation upon. That is what's needed. Anything less would only be minimally successful.

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by NegroNtns(m): 11:41pm On Feb 03, 2012
A carved out and designated zone will attract unecessary attention to you and make you very vulnerable in the new land. Besides, that is still an institutionalized effort that will require African leaders concordance to carry out. . . .but as I said earlier, they all are on crack and I'm sure you know the behavioral pattern of a crack addict.

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by DaRapture: 7:00pm On Feb 04, 2012
Negro_Ntns:

A carved out and designated zone will attract unecessary attention to you and make you very vulnerable in the new land. Besides, that is still an institutionalized effort that will require African leaders concordance to carry out. . . .but as I said earlier, they all are on crack and I'm sure you know the behavioral pattern of a crack addict.

Vulnerable in what way? And I've experienced that you can get nearly anything out of Africans as long as you've got the money for it. Right now today Chinese, American and European companies practically own swaths of African territory the size of Whole American states, with the sole intent of stripping it of its resources and leaving the aftermath mess for the locals to deal with, and little to nothing is done about that, and yet you think it'll be an issue for say a group of 2Mill AA to take procession of a chunk of land of equivalent size as a territory to simply form a new nation upon? cheesy I highly doubt it'll take as much effort as you seem to believe it will.
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by NegroNtns(m): 7:42pm On Feb 04, 2012
If you look in any African American neighborhood in US you will notice that the economy is usually around the following types of services - gas station and corner store, laundromat, cash checking place, bill payments and payday loans, fast tax filing and returns, hair, nail and saloon, barber shop, hotels and motels, pawn shops, restaurant and churches.

Out of all these it is only the churches, restaurants, the hair sallon and the barbaer shop that is owned by the black people. The gas station and corner store, laundromat, cash checking, bill payment, pay day loan, tax filing, hair and nail shop as well pawn shops are wholly owned and controlled by foreigners. This is today! It wasnt like that at all in the 60s. Blacks controlled most of the economy in their hoods. . . except a few in the hands of Jews. When the Jews started to leave they sold ownerships to the Indians and Pakistanis. In fact blacks businesses started going bankrupt and they sold out their control to the new comers. The damage had a lot to do with narcotic drugs and crime into the hood.

Now, take that concept and overlay it into Africa. You get the exact same outcome! Our drug is not narcotics. . . . we are addicted to corruption and self interest. We kicked colonial masters out and they were replaced by well educated and meaningful leaders with great vision. . . but we killed them off one at atime until there is nothing left to guide us and in that state of vulnerability and loss. . . a new master stepped in and filled the gap. Now we have new colonialists. So your picture of Indian, Chinese, Koreans controlling our continent is accurate.

What I mean by vulnerable is to say that you cannot operate a mini America within Africa, you will kill of your designated zone if you do that. You must by nature of preservation interact and partner with rest of Africa for viability. Africans today fight 100yrs old wars on disputed territorial ownership. So to get a safeguard against a claim on your land. . . . there has to be a protectorate that all parties signing the trearty agree to. This will have to be done at an institutionalized level to succeed. The authority responsible to carry that out is addicted to the corruption fed by chinese and korea and america and eruurope. . . . Africa is high on its own crack!

Approaching this question in the alternate path of individual sponsorship and adoption removes the risks of that communal vulnerability and reduces it to individual level. The damage, if any, is far smaller and the gains are far greater.

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by amor4ce(m): 9:42pm On Feb 04, 2012
DaRapture, in my opinion, you sound condescending, like you look down on your brethren just like the colonial masters did.

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by DaRapture: 6:49am On Feb 05, 2012
Negro_Ntns:

If you look in any African American neighborhood in US you will notice that the economy is usually around the following types of services - gas station and corner store, laundromat, cash checking place, bill payments and payday loans, fast tax filing and returns, hair, nail and saloon, barber shop, hotels and motels, pawn shops, restaurant and churches. 

Out of all these it is only the churches, restaurants, the hair sallon and the barbaer shop that is owned by the black people.  The gas station and corner store, laundromat, cash checking, bill payment, pay day loan, tax filing, hair and nail shop as well pawn shops are wholly owned and controlled by foreigners.  This is today!  It wasnt like that at all in the 60s.  Blacks controlled most of the economy in their hoods. . . except a few in the hands of Jews.  When the Jews started to leave they sold ownerships to the Indians and Pakistanis.  In fact blacks businesses started going bankrupt and they sold out their control to the new comers.  The damage had a lot to do with narcotic drugs and crime into the hood.

Now, take that concept and overlay it into Africa.  You get the exact same outcome!  Our drug is not narcotics. . . . we are addicted to corruption and self interest.  We kicked colonial masters out and they were replaced by well educated and meaningful leaders with great vision. . . but we killed them off one at atime until there is nothing left to guide us and in that state of vulnerability and loss. . . a new master stepped in and filled the gap.  Now we have new colonialists.   So your picture of Indian, Chinese, Koreans controlling our continent is accurate. 

What I mean by vulnerable is to say that you cannot operate a mini America within Africa, you will kill of your designated zone if you do that.  You must by nature of preservation interact and partner with rest of Africa for viability.  Africans today fight 100yrs old wars on disputed territorial ownership.  So to get a safeguard against a claim on your land. . . . there has to be a protectorate that all parties signing the trearty agree to.   This will have to be done at an institutionalized level to succeed.  The authority responsible to carry that out is addicted to the corruption fed by chinese and korea and america and eruurope. . . . Africa is high on its own crack! 

Approaching this question in the alternate path of individual sponsorship and adoption removes the risks of that communal vulnerability and reduces it to individual level.  The damage, if any, is far smaller and the gains are far greater. 

Your response here is all over the place, and only slightly on track toward that in which I stated, but I'll get back to helping you comprehend where I'm coming from tomorrow when I have a bit of time. Stay tuned.
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by DaRapture: 7:03am On Feb 05, 2012
amor4ce:

DaRapture, in my opinion, you sound condescending, like you look down on your brethren just like the colonial masters did.

Hey, I'm only going with the flow presented to me by the Africans I've encountered on here and other forums, and in person, who've pointedly made it clear that we (AA) and they (Africans) are not brothers, but rather simply two totally different people whom "just so happen to share the same color skin and extended lineage, and that's fine with me.

Thus I deal as I've been dealt. Funny thing is, many an African have personally told me that they even had a problem with we "Black Americans" addressing ourselves as African-Americans, in regard to we not being "Real Africans", to them we were just Black-Americans or simply Americans.  cheesy

That is fine with me as well. So I'm addressing the issue from the angle of me being an American of some significant West African descent, whom is brainstorming on the most applicable way in which we "Black Americans" could access a nation in west or Central African in the honor of reclamation via our past ancestors. 

I'm not interest in mixing or mingling with Africans beyond formal trade between their nations and that in which would be established on the continent by the "Black American" returnees. I don't see how this thought process can be seen as condescending. God bless the child that has his own, my African friend. Sorry, but most BA would not wont to go to Africa to live under the rule of Africans, but rather instead to go and form their own separate nation independent from any African group. This was attempted in the creation of Liberia and succeeded for a while, but do to poor prior planing, it eventually lead to civil disorder of the Natives toward the ruling BA's, and the rest is history.

Now in saying this, I'm not stating that all of the native whom preside within the assigned lands given over to the BA must leave the area, but rather that those that stay acknowledge that by staying they are in turn stating that they are willfully agreeing to living under total and unchallangable Federal rule of the BA population, though of course,  unlike the Liberian case, their rights short of government leadership will be constitutionally secured equivocally to that of their BA counterparts.  wink

Humm, in exchange for living in what would become the fastest developing, most stable, prosperous and wealthiest nation on the African continent by far,  I don't think such an agreement would be problem for most of them. I mean imagine going from living in this:




TO THIS:



In just 20 to 25 years. shocked
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by NegroNtns(m): 3:53pm On Feb 05, 2012
darapture,

If my response seem too broad its because the proposition you tabled has a broad and multifaceted scenarios and contact points to it. The protectorate will face many problems, one of which is the same problem that beset the American black neighborhoods today will be transplanted in the new land, the other is because you are not insulated from the rest of Africans, the generic problem of corruption and bad leadership will infect your protectorate. At the end of the day you will regret leaving America.

I see you put two pictures, one of an African rural coastal town and the other of, I believe Chicago or, a metro city in America. You dont need to come to Africa if thats your reason for resettling your ancestral roots. You should be concerned more with culture, regaining the lost philosophies, healing and alignment of the spirit back to its cosmic awakening, ryhtmic and artistic balance. . . . If you build a city like Chicago in Africa then be prepared to build a similar city in every country so that people do not abandon their lands and flood into your land and overwhelm your infrastructures into stagnation and decay.

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by amor4ce(m): 9:54pm On Feb 05, 2012
How about what some freed slaves did to Liberia? Is it not better to humbly settle with one's brethren and weather all challenges with them while waiting for the Redeemer than supporting still the livelihoods of the slave masters? A former African-American who calls herself Yeye Olade (http://yeyeolade./about/) did make the bold move to be with her people by moving to Yorubaland and ensuring that her children grew up as Yoruba and not American.

Those who are demanding for their own chunk of land to govern themselves seem to me to be in a state of self-denial and shame over the actions of some stubborn Africans. Right now, we should be encouraging ourselves and with lots of love as something wonderful is about to happen (Zephaniah 3:8-20).
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by amor4ce(m): 9:58pm On Feb 05, 2012
As for the pics you posted, don't be deceived by the allure of the achievements of the Amorites as a fire on earth is about to be kindled.
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by amor4ce(m): 1:09am On Feb 06, 2012
In fact, I have begun to find the idea of a separate African state to be carved out for African-Americans as very disgusting, akin to a proposal for Season II of the infamous Berlin Conference [s]but this time of, by and for house negroes[/s].

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Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by DaRapture: 6:07am On Feb 06, 2012
amor4ce:

In fact, I have begun to find the idea of a separate African state to be carved out for African-Americans as very disgusting, akin to a proposal for Season II of the infamous Berlin Conference [s]but this time of, by and for house negroes[/s].

Blah, Blah, Blah. Think of it as and call it what you may,  but the facts remain facts and no matter how much you attempt to sugar coat it, the bitter truth will remain the same,  and the truth is that we Black-Americans are about as African as Pizza Hut is an authentic Italian food spot.  cheesy Most African ethnic groups cant even get along with each other, and barely see each other as brother and sister, and yet you expect them see and interact with us total strangers from across the sea as such? Wake up and join us in the real world.  cheesy

Nah, I've been to Africa several times and have mingled very broadly within the African community here in the US, and I know for a fact that MOST here in the US and the VAST, VAST majority back in Africa, see us as little more than another "Yankee" who they can possibly get some money off of, or some other favor. Beyond that, they feel little kin to us, and like most other immigrant groups here in this nation, they love many of our cultural influences like, music, dress, lingo and general "swag" or "style" as many call it, but they generally, as a whole, do really like us as a people, and that's just the way it is.

It's kinda odd. To most of them we are Mutts, half breeds, cultureless, they want no indepth connection to us slave descendants, and this is fine with me, and thus this the reason for the proposal I presented. Why attempt to force people to see things your way? No need to be desperate with insistence when you could simply be cordial with compromise.
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by amor4ce(m): 12:25am On Feb 08, 2012
Isn't that Berlin Conference a major reason for the division within and amongst various African groups?
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by DaRapture: 3:37am On Feb 08, 2012
amor4ce:

Isn't that Berlin Conference a major reason for the division within and amongst various African groups?

Hell, no, the historical existence of mass ethnic divisions in which was already on ground in Sub-Saharan Africa, upon the Europeans arrive is the actual reason why the proposals of the conference were so easily and nearly effortlessly put into action. The divisions already existed, all they needed to do was simply go on in and conquer. cheesy
Re: I Hate Being An African American Woman by TisaBone: 8:23am On Feb 08, 2012
I am not trying to be African. I am very proud to be an AA, so I will not reject my culture. I am merely curious about Africans, after all, they are from the Motherland, just as my ancestors were. I actually have nothing against Africans, and many that I have come in contact with have no problems with me either. Partly because I don't seek to judge, only learn about different cultures. Many foreigners I run into, I make an effort to learn at least one word in their native tongue, if nothing more than "thankyou"
I admire Africans, and believe that they are some of the slickest people on the face of the earth. much is to be learned from them. We should not focus on our differences, but rather our similarites. After all, the common thread that links all people of African decent, is that no matter where you go, whether it be in Africa, America, or Brazil, us black folks are always suffering. We are dying from AIDS, we are victims of poverty, and oppressors who seek to hold us back and down? Why is this?

Because we are a strong people who have persevered. In America, we won our freedom. In Africa, we were kings and queens, with knowledge of astronomy and mathematics. Timbuktu was a place where people came, to seek knowlege. They claim that the ancient Egyptians were Asiatic, but that is wrong!!! They steal from us, then make us believe that we are nothing!!

I was once talking to a aquaintance of mine who is white. There was a certain man who was Nigerian, and she mistakenly referred to him as African American. I quickly corrected her. Do you know what her response was? " Same difference."

It is us that draw lines and make distinctions, when we really should be working together.

We are all Niggas.

I am a nigga who resides in America.

You are a nigga who resides in Africa.

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