nitrogen:


Hazard at OT? Why una be like this na? Better to bring back Lingard abeg.

Jokes and banter aside, if you're told to choose between Lingard and Hazard, you'll choose Lingard?

#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud

SyIvalord:
Afrodoc2, we have always complained that Fred and Mctominay are poor at progressive passing and we want them to be replaced by Ndidi or Bissouma. But the graph below shows that we may be mistaken? What do you think about this?

Fred and McTominay may not be good enough, but the graph shows that Bissouma or Ndidi may not be the answer.

Agenda

Sniper4real:
Low-key. Most Utd fans get soft spot for Real Madrid Sha

Smh... Smdh

Sniper4real:
Low-key. Most Utd fans get soft spot for Real Madrid Sha

I don't.

afrodoc2:
Olabode89 what is your assessment of our Academy/Reserve players? Who amongst them do you have high hopes for?

I have been watching our academy guys quite regularly for about 2 years on MUTV and some guys just stand 0ut from the get go. I usually rate technique and quick thinking over physical attributes.

Amy top 5 guys that I think might make it to the senior team are
1. Mengi
2. Elanga
3. McNeil
4. Forson
5. Laird

This might be shocking to most guys but I am not so sure that Hannibal and Shoretire will make it at the senior team mainly because they are both play best as an AM (my opinion) and that position requires a lot that is game time, confidence and quickness dependent. Also Bruno has that position locked down for at least 5 more years.

Laird and Elanga can actually stake claims to back up positions for the RB and LW positions by next season.

Sniper4real:
Low-key. Most Utd fans get soft spot for Real Madrid Sha

I fucking hate Madrid.. I won't ever forget when they destroyed us in the UCL on two occasions. I can't remember the exact seasons but I remember the games that we got destroyed by Ronaldo Delima and the one where Redondo made Henning Berg his biitch.

Raiola: “Pogba’s future? The most important thing now is to know what Man United wants, what project they’re proposing. He’s interested in one thing: winning the Champions League and titles, we are going to see where this is possible, if at United or at other clubs”.



na which people dey always interview dis guy sef?

olabode89:


I fucking hate Madrid.. I won't ever forget when they destroyed us in the UCL on two occasions. I can't remember the exact seasons but I remember the games that we got destroyed by Ronaldo Delima and the one where Redondo made Henning Berg his biitch.

De Lima 2002-2003

Redondo 1999-2000

Redondo was a majestic midfielder. El Principe.

afrodoc2:


That is a good graph but context is key. If a CM's team is usually under pressure and you have most players pinned back he won't have many passing options and his progression stat will most likely suffer.

Yes, I thought so too. Bissouma and Ndidi are obviously facing a lot more defensive situations per 90 than Fred and Mctominay. Bissouma is supposed to be higher on the defensive axis than Fred or Mctominay but he is lower. I think maybe it’s because his positioning is really good so he rarely has to make a tackle?

Ndidi on the other hand should have better progression because Leicester are not constantly under pressure from attacks. They usually keep possession except when they play against better teams. Ndidi should have better stats in terms of ball progression but his ball progression is proven to be quite poor.

Anyway, Somethings definitely cannot be captured by graphs.

And my problem with them is not just purely passing but their inability to take the ball on the half turn from the GK or defenders and initiate attack. The defenders now often ignore Fred when he comes short for the ball in front of the D while McTominay often just hides and refuses to make himself available in those areas.

Yes I agree with this. Every match day I am frustrated by their inability to receive the ball on the half turn and make a progressive pass. Anytime they attempt it, they always end up losing the ball because of a bad touch or a very poor pass. They always gift the opponent the ball under little or no pressure.

The other problem is that if we switch to a 4-3-3 neither of them can play the CDM role solo. If we switch to a 4-3-3 will you be comfortable with McTominay as solo CDM and Pogba and Bruno both pushed forward as 2 attacking midfielders or Fred alone as CDM and Pogba/Bruno pushed forward as attacking midfielders?

I am not even comfortable seeing any of them in the starting lineup. When I realize that we have no better option, my discomfort intensifies.

Both of them individually lack something a CDM needs to have but luckily for us they compliment each other SOMEWHAT. However we need to improve in that department in order to step up to the next level.

Yes I agree, we certainly need to do better than both of them. I don’t need graphs to show me what I see every week.

In order to fit Pogba and Marcus in their best positions, we need a DM who can sit in front of the defence alone, protect the defence superbly, receive the ball comfortably from the defence on the half turn even whilst under pressure and pick a forward pass to initiate an attack. I just wonder if Bissouma or Ndidi are the right choices.

handelex:
Raiola:

“Pogba to Real Madrid? It’s difficult [...]. But impossible is nothing. What if Real offer a Hazard-Pogba swap? It’s just an example. And if all parties like it, why not?

Playing for Real was always very attractive for Pogba because of his idol Zidane too” #MUFC #Real

This man talks too much..

Haaaaaa.

I wonder who gives him this kind mind.


Even coach dey fear to talk about other people players.. But raiola would talk about players.. Coach.. Owner. Habaaa..

Sniper4real:
Low-key. Most Utd fans get soft spot for Real Madrid Sha

For what? Na the newbies wey no know wetin Madrid don do us go get soft spot for them. I hate those bastards.

SyIvalord:
Afrodoc2, we have always complained that Fred and Mctominay are poor at progressive passing and we want them to be replaced by Ndidi or Bissouma. But the graph below shows that we may be mistaken? What do you think about this?

Fred and McTominay may not be good enough, but the graph shows that Bissouma or Ndidi may not be the answer.

I believe mactominay oh.


Especially for shot on the edge of the box 16..

He has a very solid ground shot technique..

Mrviktor:



I believe mactominay oh.


Especially for shot on the edge of the box 16..

He has a very solid ground shot technique..

Shot on the edge of the box is not all you need from a midfielder. Mctominay is quite deficient in the basic aspects of midfield play.

Mrviktor:



This man talks too much..

Haaaaaa.

I wonder who gives him this kind mind.


Even coach dey fear to talk about other people players.. But raiola would talk about players.. Coach.. Owner. Habaaa..

When it comes to players, he talks only about his clients[players].

afrodoc2:


De Lima 2002-2003

Redondo 1999-2000

Redondo was a majestic midfielder. El Principe.

Yeah!

De Lima scored a hatrick in that game. Fergie had a lot of trouble playing against them top teams in the UCL, From Seedorf/Kaka inspired AC Milan, 97/98 Dortmund, Ballack Inspired Leverkusen, Madrid (mentioned above), etc.

SyIvalord:
For what? Na the newbies wey no know wetin Madrid don do us go get soft spot for them. I hate those bastards.

Lmao! you know what's up.

SyIvalord:
For what? Na the newbies wey no know wetin Madrid don do us go get soft spot for them. I hate those bastards.

The hate I have for Madrid eh, after delima's hatrick at old traf it double, then buying Ronaldo it triple.

olabode89:


I have been watching our academy guys quite regularly for about 2 years on MUTV and some guys just stand 0ut from the get go. I usually rate technique and quick thinking over physical attributes.

Amy top 5 guys that I think might make it to the senior team are
1. Mengi
2. Elanga
3. McNeil
4. Forson
5. Laird

This might be shocking to most guys but I am not so sure that Hannibal and Shoretire will make it at the senior team mainly because they are both play best as an AM (my opinion) and that position requires a lot that is game time, confidence and quickness dependent. Also Bruno has that position locked down for at least 5 more years.

Laird and Elanga can actually stake claims to back up positions for the RB and LW positions by next season.

Interesting.

Mengi has potential but for an academy CB to make it at a big club he has to be either very lucky or very good. I like him but he has his work cut out for him.

Elanga has real potential as well. He is an unbelievably quick LWF with good technique and his finishing continues to improve. Rashford, Martial, Pogba all preferring the left side might be an issue, but has a real chance.

McNeill has the same issue with Mengi. Youth team CFs typically do not break through at the top clubs. If he can expand his game like Greenwood and is able to play multiple positions he might get minutes while he matures. Then there is the big elephant in the room: He is 17 while Greenwood is 19, very close in age.

Forson is another one with potential and like you earlier pointed out he has a unique way about him. But why him and not Shoretire who is only a few months older but much more highly rated by the club? Or Mebri who is only 18 after all.

Laird is one that should be in the squad soon. Maybe one more year on loan with either a Championship club or mid-level Premier League team.

KingAlabi:

Even if them eventually sack ole, this guy don take style write him name for history books oh

Lol.. Who wan sack am.

He's bringing out the best in all d players..

Shaw... Better.
Maguire.. Better.
Lindelof.. Better.
Spiderman.. Better.
Fred... Better than under Jose.
Mac.... Way better.
Rashford.. BETTER.
GREENWOOD... BEEEEEEETTTTTTEEEEERRRRR
MARTIAL.. STILL CONFUSED.
DAVID... STILL CONFUSED.
POGBA... MANAGED WELL. NO SCANDAL

SyIvalord:
Yes, I thought so too. Bissouma and Ndidi are obviously facing a lot more defensive situations per 90 than Fred and Mctominay. Bissouma is supposed to be higher on the defensive axis than Fred or Mctominay but he is lower. I think maybe it’s because his positioning is really good so he rarely has to make a tackle?

Ndidi on the other hand should have better progression because Leicester are not constantly under pressure from attacks. They usually keep possession except when they play against better teams. Ndidi should have better stats in terms of ball progression but his ball progression is proven to be quite poor.

Anyway, Somethings definitely cannot be captured by graphs.

Yes I agree with this. Every match day I am frustrated by their inability to receive the ball on the half turn and make a progressive pass. Anytime they attempt it, they always end up losing the ball because of a bad touch or a very poor pass. They always gift the opponent the ball under little or no pressure.

I am not even comfortable seeing any of them in the starting lineup. When I realize that we have no better option, my discomfort intensifies.

Yes I agree, we certainly need to do better than both of them. In order to fit Pogba and Marcus in their best positions, we need a DM who can sit in front of the defence alone, protect the defence superbly, receive the ball comfortably from the defence on the half turn even whilst under pressure and pick a forward pass to initiate an attack. I just wonder if Bissouma or Ndidi are the right choices.

My choice would be the Yorkshire Pirlo but he is Leeds through and through, which makes it very difficult but not impossible. I can manage Phillips and Fred.

I was looking for Ndidi on the graph but didn't see him. His progression stat might not be great but defensively he is very solid.

One player that i am suspicious of is Declan Rice. Plays in a low block and has Soucek helping him choke all that space PLUS he looks slow to me. if we buy him it might be another Maguire experience.

Mrviktor:


Lol.. Who wan sack am.

He's bringing out the best in all d players..

Shaw... Better.
Maguire.. Better.
Lindelof.. Better.
Spiderman.. Better.
Fred... Better than under Jose.
Mac.... Way better.
Rashford.. BETTER.
GREENWOOD... BEEEEEEETTTTTTEEEEERRRRR
MARTIAL.. STILL CONFUSED.
DAVID... STILL CONFUSED.
POGBA... MANAGED WELL. NO SCANDAL

Another trophy for OLE.

Make we no lie..

It's been progress under ole.

From when he joined.

To last season..

To this season

We no backslide.


We still got to semi finals.

And now a final coming.
Second place loading



Una no dey see arteta..
People still believe in him.

But our ole.. Una dey abuse am everytime.



Even if we dey loose 3-0 by first half.
I still get hope to watch full match.
I've not had that kind of hope since Ferguson

Oasis007:




Dude don drink Sniper na.

I tell you

handelex:
When it comes to players, he talks only about his clients[players].

Still not making sense.

I don't see other agents talking d way he does

Expert17:


Another trophy for OLE.

Yes oh.
He's our pochettino

SyIvalord:
Shot on the edge of the box is not all you need from a midfielder. Mctominay is quite deficient in the basic aspects of midfield play.

He can work on his long range passing.
That's the only area he lacks.

He's too safe like cleverly..

Mrviktor:


Lol.. Who wan sack am.

He's bringing out the best in all d players..

Shaw... Better.
Maguire.. Better.
Lindelof.. Better.
Spiderman.. Better.
Fred... Better than under Jose.
Mac.... Way better.
Rashford.. BETTER.
GREENWOOD... BEEEEEEETTTTTTEEEEERRRRR
MARTIAL.. STILL CONFUSED.
DAVID... STILL CONFUSED.
POGBA... MANAGED WELL. NO SCANDAL

Watch olephobes attack you, if they haven't started already.

Mrviktor:
Make we no lie..

It's been progress under ole.

From when he joined.

To last season..

To this season

We no backslide.


We still got to semi finals.

And now a final coming.
Second place loading



Una no dey see arteta..
People still believe in him.

But our ole.. Una dey abuse am everytime.



Even if we dey loose 3-0 by first half.
I still get hope to watch full match.
I've not had that kind of hope since Ferguson

They are coming for you!!!!

Expert17:


Dey go blame Glazers after wasting money on flops

Don’t mind them.

handelex:
Jokes and banter aside, if you're told to choose between Lingard and Hazard, you'll choose Lingard?

What has Hazard done that Lord Lingard has not done? Abeg, no vex me this morning o.

Expert17:


Another trophy for OLE.

The trophies plenty gaaannnnn