BlackBaron:

Away from the cacophony, white noise and exaggeration on SM, facts still point to culpability of the NA led to death of certain individuals at the toll gate.

But I guess you choose what to believe.

Funny some of you on this thread may even turn out worse than the current tyrant in Aso Rock if you were in power.

A significant number of protesters came with guns. This was carried all over SM as well. Videos I personally saw showed the Army firing blank bullets.
If ENDSARS is going to prevent us getting US weapons, all wheel and good. Hopefully bandits get empowered and start on the fine boys and girls in the cities who make up the bulk of EndSARS. The point at which Nigeria is now, people should start suffering consequences of their actions immediately. Maybe brains will reset.

cutievik:
Where's JOSCOFELIX

Abeg update us.

EricBraven:

Was any of the death due to bullet wound from a rifle, amnesty couldn't even give accurate figures mtcheew.

It's not about the number of the dead. I don't know why we keep defending things aimlessly.
Was the Nigerian Army at the toll gate? Yes.
Were protesters shot and injured? Yes.
Did we lose at least a Nigerian citizen to a Nigerian army bullet? Yes.
Case closed.
Firstly, the Nigerian army wasn't supposed to be there. I don't know if there was any official invitation by the government.
The Nigerian army wasn't supposed to shoot live rounds on its citizens or at any target cos it wasn't a violent protest. The Nigerian army wasn't shot at or assaulted. This is a total breach of the Nigerian army rules of engagement and international laws guiding human rights.

Stormtrooper11:

It's not about the number of the dead. I don't know why we keep defending things aimlessly.
Was the Nigerian Army at the toll gate? Yes.
Were protesters shot and injured? Yes.
Did we lose at least a Nigerian citizen to a Nigerian army bullet? Yes.
Case closed.
Firstly, the Nigerian army wasn't supposed to be there. I don't know if there was any official invitation by the government.
The Nigerian army wasn't supposed to shoot live rounds on its citizens or at any target cos it wasn't a violent protest. The Nigerian army wasn't shot at or assaulted. This is a total breach of the Nigerian army rules of engagement and international laws guiding human rights.

Please remain Patroitic. Some peeps earn stipends from defending Governments. Know this and have Peace.

RiceProducers:


A significant number of protesters came with guns. This was carried all over SM as well. Videos I personally saw showed the Army firing blank bullets.
If ENDSARS is going to prevent us getting US weapons, all wheel and good. Hopefully bandits get empowered and start on the fine boys and girls in the cities who make up the bulk of EndSARS. The point at which Nigeria is now, people should start suffering consequences of their actions immediately. Maybe brains will reset.

A video captured bullets leaving an AK-47 nuzzle as blank bullets?

4D quality.

DubaiLandLord1:
Hushpuppi Narrates How He Bribed Nigerian Top Cop Abba Kyari In $1.1m Deal

Ramon ‘Hushpuppi’ Abbas, the infamous Nigerian fraudster who recently pleaded guilty in the United States, has narrated how he bribed Nigeria’s celebrated police chief Abba Kyari, court documents seen by Peoples Gazette said.

Federal authorities in the U.S. have been investigating Mr Abbas and his co-conspirators after their syndicate was busted in Dubai, New York and other top cities last June. Officials said in court filings that Mr Abbas disclosed during interrogation that he paid bribes to Mr Kyari, a deputy police commissioner, to have one of his rivals arrested and jailed in Nigeria following a dispute over a $1.1 million dupe of a Qatari businessperson.

Mr Kyari did not immediately return calls and messages seeking his response to Mr Abbas’ claims when reached by The Gazette on Thursday morning.

Mr Abbas asked Mr Kyari to arrest and jail a fellow fraudster Kelly Chibuzor Vincent after both were locked in a dispute presumably over how to share the $1.1 million loot received from the Qatari businessperson. Mr Vincent subsequently contacted the victim and informed them that they were being scammed by a syndicate involving him and Mr Abbas.

This elicited anger from Mr Abbas, who contacted Mr Kyari to arrest and jail his rival over the dispute. Mr Abbas said Mr Kyari sent pictures of Mr Vincent in jail and subsequently sent his bank account number to Mr Abbas to which a wire transfer should be made having done a good job as sent by Mr Abbas.

“Court documents outline a dispute among members of the conspiracy, which allegedly prompted Vincent to contact the victim and claim that Abbas and Juma were engaged in fraud. After this contact, Abbas allegedly arranged to have Vincent jailed in Nigeria by Abba Alhaji Kyari, 46, of Nigeria.

“According to the affidavit, Kyari is a highly decorated deputy commissioner of the Nigeria Police Force who is alleged to have arranged for Vincent to be arrested and jailed at Abbas’ behest, and then sent Abbas photographs of Vincent after his arrest. Kyari also allegedly sent Abbas bank account details for an account into which Abbas could deposit payment for Vincent’s arrest and imprisonment,” U.S. Justice department said in a statement.

After the $1.1 million fraud was successful, Mr Abbas spent $230,000 on a watch and also bribed officials at St. Kitts and Nevis for his citizenship of that island country.

https://gazettengr.com/just-in-hushpuppi-narrates-how-he-bribed-nigerian-top-cop-abba-kyari-in-1-1-million-deal/

Super cop indeed

Abba has spoken on this. No fund was transferred to any account from Hushpuppy.

Stormtrooper11:

It's not about the number of the dead. I don't know why we keep defending things aimlessly.
Was the Nigerian Army at the toll gate? Yes.
Were protesters shot and injured? Yes.
Did we lose at least a Nigerian citizen to a Nigerian army bullet? Yes.
Case closed.
Firstly, the Nigerian army wasn't supposed to be there. I don't know if there was any official invitation by the government.
The Nigerian army wasn't supposed to shoot live rounds on its citizens or at any target cos it wasn't a violent protest. The Nigerian army wasn't shot at or assaulted. This is a total breach of the Nigerian army rules of engagement and international laws guiding human rights.

The rotesters were not supposed to be there. There was a curfew. A curfew was imposed because acts of arson and looting were already taking place.
Nigerians should eschew sentimentality and victimhood. It is very irritating.
Why block the most important highway in Lagos to protest against Police?. Itwas most cowardly and I am perversely happy that many young people have lost jobs, livelihoods and careers due to the reduction in FDI caused by the demonstrations.
Guys will learn the hard way and generationally that you don't ever misuse your freedoms.
In SA the same stupidity. A corrupt politician jailed for stealing from a generation of young people and same youths wrecked their own country protesting the Judgement.
A generation of dunces.

SamuelAnyawu:


Abba has spoken on this. No fund was transferred to any account from Hushpuppy.

what if he took money, and so fvckin what?
He is a cop, hush called him to help him make arrest(which cop wouldn't) he made the arrest, hush appreciated by making a huge transfer to him(if Na u u no go collect)..
So wetin come be the matter? Like say most people no go do same..

Una go like to dy asslick Americans everytime

DubaiLandLord1:
According to the Lagos State governor(Who once denied there was no killings), he said two people died after the attack. Amnesty international said at least 12 people died after the attack.

I watch the video by DJ switch, and I saw people with gun shot injuries and she said in that video that Soldiers and Policemen were aiming directly at the armless protesters.

The Nigerian army denied there men was at the venue for days without even carrying out any investigation. They later agreed their men were there but didn't shoot at any civilian.

Well, the lekki toll gate shooting is one of the numerous reason we might not be able to buy weapons that's worth close to a billion dollars from the USA.

Mr dubia lover of anything bad news give us the name of just one person killed by soldiers in the so called massacre..
The DJ switch ur idol where is she now, enjoying life and grants in Canada Abi..

RiceProducers:


The rotesters were not supposed to be there. There was a curfew. A curfew was imposed because acts of arson and looting were already taking place.
Nigerians should eschew sentimentality and victimhood. It is very irritating.
Why block the most important highway in Lagos to protest against Police?. Itwas most cowardly and I am perversely happy that many young people have lost jobs, livelihoods and careers due to the reduction in FDI caused by the demonstrations.
Guys will learn the hard way and generationally that you don't ever misuse your freedoms.
In SA the same stupidity. A corrupt politician jailed for stealing from a generation of young people and same youths wrecked their own country protesting the Judgement.
A generation of dunces.

Damn. Curfew? Heard this countless times. Curfew was 8pm. People were hearing shots at 6:50 pm. We got no excuse for killing our people. Why don't you arrest them? Was the Army invited?
Things were already bad before those protests. Nigerians protested not only because of Sars but inequality and bad economic policies. We all saw the looting of warehouses that followed. People were hungry and poor. SA and Nigeria are different situations entirely. One is using the cover of protesting for a politician to loot, cos of poverty and unemployment. The latter, is fed up with its government. Only one thing relates both, i.e Poverty and unemployment. Its the fuel for protests and anarchy

SamuelAnyawu:
That means Hushpuppy can also pay Kyari the Super Cop to shoot an enemy?

If Kyari sends his boys on such mission, Will they say No Sir or Yes Sir?

If Hushpuppy could pay for such only God knows how many Super Rich dudes have paid to get things done.

Well Kyari is innocent until proven guilty


I remain Patroitic

you don't remain patriotic you remain sane

Nigerians crucifying abba kyari already even without hearing his side of the story if true or not when same Nigerians are quick to shout human rights, so kyari has no rights now to have his own side of d story heard Abi..

EricBraven:

Was any of the death due to bullet wound from a rifle, amnesty couldn't even give accurate figures mtcheew.

forget the dude abeg, his among those that get orgasms on hearing bad news, no body anywhere locally and internationally has been able to prove a massacre happened, where are the bodies d said was floating in the lagoon, where are the bodies foolish lieing DJ useless switch removed bullets from as per doctor.. Even the USA which d all asslick has said it found no evidence of a massacre..
People were massacred still not one single family has come out to say our family member was a victim..

Nigerians due to tribalism, religious bigotry and let me add hardship have become so toxic, now insulting your country is the new woke, the surest way to get likes is to lay insults and spread hate

seankafor:
what if he took money, and so fvckin what?
He is a cop, hush called him to help him make arrest(which cop wouldn't) he made the arrest, hush appreciated by making a huge transfer to him(if Na u u no go collect)..
So wetin come be the matter? Like say most people no go do same..

Una go like to dy asslick Americans everytime

There is nothing like asslicking there brother.

Even payment for Bail is not a crime, but an appreciation to the Police force.

I will not collect money for doing my Job. I remain a Patriotic Nigerian

RiceProducers:


A significant number of protesters came with guns. This was carried all over SM as well. Videos I personally saw showed the Army firing blank bullets.
If ENDSARS is going to prevent us getting US weapons, all wheel and good. Hopefully bandits get empowered and start on the fine boys and girls in the cities who make up the bulk of EndSARS. The point at which Nigeria is now, people should start suffering consequences of their actions immediately. Maybe brains will reset.

Lol. Is this an actual suggestion or mistype regarding bandits (essentially a terrorist group)? In other words, state sponsored empowerment to go after others with weapons. When done with EndSARS, you think they won't come for you too?
SMDH!

Individuals carrying weapon (if any, were hoodlums seeking the guise of protests or such and should rightfully face the full force of the law when caught)

RiceProducers:


A significant number of protesters came with guns. This was carried all over SM as well. Videos I personally saw showed the Army firing blank bullets.
If ENDSARS is going to prevent us getting US weapons, all wheel and good. Hopefully bandits get empowered and start on the fine boys and girls in the cities who make up the bulk of EndSARS. The point at which Nigeria is now, people should start suffering consequences of their actions immediately. Maybe brains will reset.

honestly your some one I would really love to have as a friend, am a fan, am a follower I just love how you think things through without sentiments...

You well

seankafor:
what if he took money, and so fvckin what?
He is a cop, hush called him to help him make arrest(which cop wouldn't) he made the arrest, hush appreciated by making a huge transfer to him(if Na u u no go collect)..
So wetin come be the matter? Like say most people no go do same..

Una go like to dy asslick Americans everytime

Really? Imagine you are a tenant. Your landlord tries to evict you without notice. He brings policemen to evict you. Does it make sense?
Same thing here. You can't carry an arrest just like that. It is unprofessional. This is why politicians will use the police on innocent Nigerians and nothing will happen cos we are oblivious of our rights. You can't carry an arrest without a warrant.

Stormtrooper11:

It's not about the number of the dead. I don't know why we keep defending things aimlessly.
Was the Nigerian Army at the toll gate? Yes.
Were protesters shot and injured? Yes.
Did we lose at least a Nigerian citizen to a Nigerian army bullet? Yes.
Case closed.
Firstly, the Nigerian army wasn't supposed to be there. I don't know if there was any official invitation by the government.
The Nigerian army wasn't supposed to shoot live rounds on its citizens or at any target cos it wasn't a violent protest. The Nigerian army wasn't shot at or assaulted. This is a total breach of the Nigerian army rules of engagement and international laws guiding human rights.

oga human rights, asking why was the army there, we all know since objs time till now, the police has been crippled an made ineffective, the army does stop and search, army controls traffic, the army responds to armed robbery calls, the army helps in making arrest, the army provides VIP protection, infact the army does everything now in Nigeria in regards to internal security because the police is I'll equipped, I'll trained etc so tell me why won't the army be there when the army that should be resting in barracks now do all the work, sometimes the way you guys talk with so much confidence all just to tarnish Nigeria amazes me, and ur Nigerians so annoying

EricBraven:
[s]
Yeah it does not but we still can't subtract the fact that some individuals support this guys and have been responsible for the production of logistics support for movement of arms and ammo capable of starting a small war.

Look at it this way, the going fellow are armed and looking for who to test it on,then the get this tribalistic idea that the north is against them and then boom they start attacking the northeners,the media now comes in to report what they are being told then the other side gets agitated and goes on their own rampage. Guess what just happened, they just shook the balance of the Nigeria state security system.
Thus giving them room to thrive for sometime.[/s]

Preconcieved Bias

Stormtrooper11:

It's not about the number of the dead. I don't know why we keep defending things aimlessly.
Was the Nigerian Army at the toll gate? Yes.
Were protesters shot and injured? Yes.
Did we lose at least a Nigerian citizen to a Nigerian army bullet? Yes.
Case closed.
Firstly, the Nigerian army wasn't supposed to be there. I don't know if there was any official invitation by the government.
The Nigerian army wasn't supposed to shoot live rounds on its citizens or at any target cos it wasn't a violent protest. The Nigerian army wasn't shot at or assaulted. This is a total breach of the Nigerian army rules of engagement and international laws guiding human rights.

There's no evidence till date that anyone died from bullets of Nigerian army. According to the hospitals around the lekki toll gate, the wounded protesters had pellet gunshot wounds and the army doesn't use pump action rifles or Oka.
Even the US made this known a while ago that there's no evidence.

willybaby:
oga human rights, asking why was the army there, we all know since objs time till now, the police has been crippled an made ineffective, the army does stop and search, army controls traffic, the army responds to armed robbery calls, the army helps in making arrest, the army provides VIP protection, infact the army does everything now in Nigeria in regards to internal security because the police is I'll equipped, I'll trained etc so tell me why won't the army be there when the army that should be resting in barracks now do all the work, sometimes the way you guys talk with so much confidence all just to tarnish Nigeria amazes me, and ur Nigerians so annoying

Verdammt, I'm tarnishing Nigeria?? Watch your tongue. What do you know about Nigeria? Do you think you are more Nigerian than me? So because it has been happening since OBJ time, means we should continue? I thought this government said they were different? I thought they said they will recruit 10,000 policemen and expand the police? I thought they have regard for the constitution.
Nothing is right here. I'm saying what was supposed to be done. You are defending mediocrisy. You are defending this weak system that doesn't give a damn about you and i, and our generations to come. Do you think I'm happy my country is this way? Why would I derive joy in insulting my country? I'm not a bastard. I'm not a traitor. I stand for the country not its government. Why shouldn't talk about our hurtful matters? So we should just be quiet, suffering and smiling? I'm not a ZOMBIE

Stormtrooper11:

Verdammt, I'm tarnishing Nigeria?? Watch your tongue. What do you know about Nigeria? Do you think you are more Nigerian than me? So because it has been happening since OBJ time, means we should continue? I thought this government said they were different? I thought they said they will recruit 10,000 policemen and expand the police? I thought they have regard for the constitution.
Nothing is right here. I'm saying what was supposed to be done. You are defending mediocrisy. You are defending this weak system that doesn't give a damn about you and i, and our generations to come. Do you think I'm happy my country is this way? Why would I derive joy in insulting my country? I'm not a bastard. I'm not a traitor. I stand for the country not its government. Why shouldn't talk about our hurtful matters? So we should just be quiet, suffering and smiling? I'm not a ZOMBIE

in trying to defend yourself you only ended up agreeing with me

youghs:


There's no evidence till date that anyone died from bullets of Nigerian army. According to the hospitals around the lekki toll gate, the wounded protesters had pellet gunshot wounds and the army doesn't use pump action rifles or Oka.
Even the US made this known a while ago that there's no evidence.

In court, you don't have a case without Evidence. After the incidence, journalists wrote articles about their life being threatened, phone been tapped. Truth is, alot of evidence have been destroyed. I didn't mention massacre. I didn't say we had a massacre. I'm not sure on a massacre,but losing at least a citizen to our Army's bullet is a violation of human rights

youghs:


There's no evidence till date that anyone died from bullets of Nigerian army. According to the hospitals around the lekki toll gate, the wounded protesters had pellet gunshot wounds and the army doesn't use pump action rifles or Oka.
Even the US made this known a while ago that there's no evidence.

That's how you people will keep defending evil till it touches your family members. Don't know what Nigerians gain in being dishonest.
That was how Jumoke a petty hawker was killed by police bullets in the Odua protest, only for the police to deny it that she was killed by protesters citing her injury was a stab wound which forensics later showed she was shot only for same police to shamelessly charge some arrested protesters for shooting a girl they initially claimed was stabbed. That was how Shiites were killed and buried in mass grave yet some of you deny this fact. The Lekki incident was covered live on Instagram with over 140k watching yet you still deny the obvious.
Continue defending the indefensible e go soon touch you.

Stormtrooper11:

It's not about the number of the dead. I don't know why we keep defending things aimlessly.
Was the Nigerian Army at the toll gate? Yes.
Were protesters shot and injured? Yes.
Did we lose at least a Nigerian citizen to a Nigerian army bullet? Yes.
Case closed.
Firstly, the Nigerian army wasn't supposed to be there. I don't know if there was any official invitation by the government.
The Nigerian army wasn't supposed to shoot live rounds on its citizens or at any target cos it wasn't a violent protest. The Nigerian army wasn't shot at or assaulted. This is a total breach of the Nigerian army rules of engagement and international laws guiding human rights.

I am not defending anything but I just like that the truth be established.
Was the Nigeria army at lekki? Yes.
Was shot fired? Yes.
What kind of bullet was fired? Blank
We're protesters injured? Yes due to the scrambling for their defined safety.
Did we lose a Nigeria citizen to the bullet of the army? Can't ascertain that,cos it has not been proven.
There was an official invitation from the state government to the army asking them to assist them ensure that the curfew was adhere to.
The protest at lekki was not turning violent but the army has a job to do which is disperse the crowd. The didn't shoot live round cos if they did,I promise you blood will flow like water at the toll with the amount of people there and the closeness of the soldiers to the protesters.
Like speak without bias man

Stormtrooper11:


Firstly, the Nigerian army wasn't supposed to be there. I don't know if there was any official invitation by the government.
The Nigerian army wasn't supposed to shoot live rounds on its citizens or at any target cos it wasn't a violent protest. The Nigerian army wasn't shot at or assaulted. This is a total breach of the Nigerian army rules of engagement and international laws guiding human rights.

The Nigerian military is overstretched with tasks they are not supposed to do - providing public security is one of them. Riot control for example should be handled exclusively by the police who are trained and mandated for this task. There are certain situations were the support of the army could be necessary but this should always be exceptional and not the routine as it is at the moment.

The reason why the military is so present in public spaces has to do with decades of military rule where the Police was mistrusted, disarmed and crippled by fine gentleman like Buhari to the point were the NPF became almost dysfunctional. The results of decades of decay of the NPF left visible scars in the Nigerian society where ordinary people can barely distinguish between criminals and criminals in uniform.

Building up a Police service that "serves" its citizen and performs professional in all aspects needs financial investment and willing to reform /restructure the current NPF from head to toe.

SamuelAnyawu:


Please remain Patroitic. Some peeps earn stipends from defending Governments. Know this and have Peace.

really, You think I am here to defend the government. Somehow,when it is the truth you say they defend the government.
Mtcheew

SamuelAnyawu:


A video captured bullets leaving an AK-47 nuzzle as blank bullets?

4D quality.

Try watching a video about blank bullet and read about them, then come back and modify this .
Dint speak out if ignorance

Stormtrooper11:

Damn. Curfew? Heard this countless times. Curfew was 8pm. People were hearing shots at 6:50 pm. We got no excuse for killing our people. Why don't you arrest them? Was the Army invited?
Things were already bad before those protests. Nigerians protested not only because of Sars but inequality and bad economic policies. We all saw the looting of warehouses that followed. People were hungry and poor. SA and Nigeria are different situations entirely. One is using the cover of protesting for a politician to loot, cos of poverty and unemployment. The latter, is fed up with its government. Only one thing relates both, i.e Poverty and unemployment. Its the fuel for protests and anarchy

Yeah we know some people are poor and unemployed but what about those that are employed and not poor but we're part of the looting.
Sure everyone is fed up of the government but what are we as citizens doing to remedy the situation? loot,wait for our time to steal.or what

EricBraven:

Try watching a video about blank bullet and read about them, then come back and modify this .
Dint speak out if ignorance

I mean how will a video capture a blank bullet. I’m very ignorant reason I want to learn.

BlackBaron:

Lol. Is this an actual suggestion or mistype regarding bandits (essentially a terrorist group)? In other words, state sponsored empowerment to go after others with weapons. When done with EndSARS, you think they won't come for you too?
SMDH!

Individuals carrying weapon (if any, were hoodlums seeking the guise of protests or such and should rightfully face the full force of the law when caught)

If you were part of the protest,I would like to ask you this. Did you see any individuals with illegal material at the protest? What did you do after you saw them ? Did you report to the police or law enforcement agents?

QuietMynd:

Preconcieved Bias

It is not preconceived bias,it is what history has taught us and we are unwilling to learn from.
Give me some reasons why what I stated earlier won't happen

youghs:


There's no evidence till date that anyone died from bullets of Nigerian army. According to the hospitals around the lekki toll gate, the wounded protesters had pellet gunshot wounds and the army doesn't use pump action rifles or Oka.
Even the US made this known a while ago that there's no evidence.

They said there is and I want them to provide it. During my teen age I ride with anything I hear from the people or gets from the news but now after being here two decades I know better.
The citizens sees themselves as no wrong doers, everything they do is right ones the army step in set things straight.