NigerianAngelo:
Let the Ukranian President just give them Donbass which is made up of ethnic Russians and end all of this.

He is also a war criminal.


Crimea opted to join their motherland in 2014 and the Ukranians are still saying No. No to what exactly?



Besides I have seen videos of Ukranians brutally murdering Russians, or leaving them to die in the cold so they are equally (or more) wicked.
It dawns on me that some of Russia's murders during their retreat might be as a pain for all Ukranians did to them.

10,000 dead soldiers isn't 300 soldiers. That's wicked for people that weren't targeting you (civilians).

Who is this fool

Why do Nigerians think they must have an opinion of everything, even though uninformed?

Hasn't all of Ukraine been destroyed and harmed by this war, irrespective of their ethnicity?

enemachris:
They are not foolish my friend, they are fighting for freedom. He who has nothing to fight for, doesn't deserve to exist in the first place.

They can't be free wither they win or lose. If they are free from Russia, they become heavily dependent on Nato and US that helped them. Which means anything they do from here, uncle Sam has the final say. You think the funds USA and Europe AR giving na free?

Idaytesj29:


Russia was always under threat, the end of the cold war and the fall of the Berlin wall didnt happen with speed of light. A lot of events, conflicts and diplomatic meetings took place before these two events.

The fall of the USSR was expertly orchestrated by the US and NATO. You are vast enough to remember this.

Glasnoit and perestroika were the policy of the overwhelmed Mikhail Gorbachev who wants to end the restriction of USSR/RUSSIA and was willing to let go of the regions that were fighting revolutionary warfare with the Soviet Government. No thanks to the US and the West, who are obsessed with a unipolar world. The same way the west are worried with the rise of China now.

How is Putin a tyrant? What has he done that the west had never done before him? If he is obsessed with Re-Uniting with all former soviet member states, it wouldn't be now. And Ukraine is not the only country that was a former Soviet member state, so his aim is not to reunite with these states but to preserve Russia beyond the complexities of the US,NATO and western negative penetrative influence.

About his actions and statements about the fall of the USSR. No true patriot will be happy with the fall of the USSR. A union that had the potential to be the most influential, richest in resources, militarily strong country, ahead of the US. Was broken into pieces by the US and her intelligence after the 2nd world war. Through the period of the Cold war of about 50 years. And you think Russia will not be weary of America that did that to them? And you feel and sensible President wouldn't protect her country against such cynically destructive US who is ready to destroy the world to achieve her interest while presenting a saintly image to the press?

Russia had always been a military power even before the first world war. Putin wasn't the leader that militarized USSR/RUSSIA.

Refuge in NATO against what? Through out the period of the cold war, was NATO not in existence? Why didnt they join at the time. And there was an agreement which was part of the conditions for the bringing down of the Berlin wall that NATO shall not expand toward the eastern Europe to avoid potential conflict with Russia. But soon after America was already trying to woo eastern European nations into NATO. Now we want Russia to look and allow nations that shared direct border with her to join NATO, an organization originally established to unite western powers against and to fight Russia in case of conflict?

Putin is no despot more than former US presidents that keep fighting wars across the globe. Wars that had no direct link to the US. At least Russia has a reason to give. We are still waiting for the US to show us the atomic bomb that was used as a reason to invade Iraq. The real reason for the for the invasion of Libya is till undisclosed cos there is none, as Gaddafi wouldn't allow unhindered control on the country and access to Libyan oil and gas resources. So, the real despot are the Americans.

No, history isn't repeating itself. History is only telling us we are biased and unfair in our judgement regarding this war. When the Japanese flown their planes to Pearl Habour to bomb US naval station, US responded with the dropping of Atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, leveling the two cities in seconds. Does the two bomb commiserate with the level of destruction done by the Japanese? Many women and children died in those two cities, but who sanctioned US as a result? Did any one faced any war crime as a result? Or Japanese are not human beings like the Americans. The number of people and properties destroyed by those double bombs is more than any atrocities done by the Nazis and the Stalinists combined. And the fact that US can chose to use such a bomb on another country shows how wicked, unforgiving and desperate she can be to remain at the top of the ranking and preserve herself. But we want Russia to consider such country a bluff despite being responsible for the collapse of the USSR before now. Putin is smarter.

No, the reason for the delay in bringing Ukraine Into NATO was not to appease Putin or Russia, as a matter of fact US want a speedy admission to spite Russia but other European powers, especially Germany asked the NATO to go cautious reminding them of their earlier agreement to the bringing down of the Berlin walls.

History is not a fallacy, we only choose which part of history we want to make use of to suit our present narratives. NATO was created to check RUSSIA, thats a fact. And Russia will never allow countries that shared borders with her to be a member and allow US move her war machineries near Russian borders.
The country thats power drunk is the US, a country that has fought wars in virtually all continents of the world, against many countries, proxy or direct, it does not matter. On matters that usually does not have any direct link to her. Thats a power drunk country. Not a country that wants to protect herself from a gangups of institutional terrorists masquerading as world peace makers.

You expect Putin to trust the West? Do you know how much damage and checking the west had out USSR) Russia through? You are asking Russia to trust, did the west trust Russia? If they do, why was NATO not disbanded after the fall of USSR? Why was Russia not admitted into NATO then? Cos there won't be an imaginary enemy to gather against.

Putin is a true leader who will do the needful to ensure America does not politically, militarily and economically erase Russia From the surface of the earth and on map.

You are of course entitled your opinion, but not your own facts.

The end of SU was the problem of SU, not the West or NATO.

NATO was not under any obligation to disband NATO just because the SU fell.

Why not just educate us about why the SU collapsed? It collapsed because communism was unsustainable and largely because the SE invaded Afghanistan and spent 10 brutal years in Afghanistan. By the end of the war in Afghanistan, SU was tired, broke, and unable to keep fighting. The SU was bankrupt and unable to keep the republics together.

All the Warsaw pact countries, the equivalent of NATO under the SU went their separate ways, that was when Russia was created and Ukraine became a surveying nation just like the other former SU republics like Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia, including Ukraine and Georgia.

SU fell on its own because of its own failures, ideology, and poor communist economic system, it was never because of NATO or the west.

Russia is doing the same thing and we can all read the writing on the wall.

The West doesn't owe Russia anything and Ukraine is a surveying Nation. Putin can huff and puff till eternity, he can not keep Ukraine, maybe Ukraine won't join NATO, but definitely will join the EU.

Ukrainians don't want to be part of Russia or even be friends with Russia, they want to be part of Western Europe and Putin can not do anything about it.

He already lost this war, Russia is already broke and almost bankrupt just like the soviet union, it's globally isolated socially, culturally and economically and the only major thing they have and sell is oil/Gas and their largest customers, the EU are about to stop buying their oil/gas, many countries can not trade with them, they are already experiencing food shortages and fighting over ordinary sugar.

Dumb Putin just made sure that Russia is in the same basket and category as North Korea, a pariah nation.

That clown gambled and lost so blaming the West for the SU's and Putin's gamble and idiocy sounds flawed and disingenouse.

Guyman02:


But the German president asked Zelensky to drop his insistence on joining NATO to avert ear but the idiot rejected it openly in a broadcast

Zelensky is US puppet.

plaindealer:


You are of course entitled your opinion, but not your own facts.

The end of SU was the problem of SU, not the West or NATO.

NATO was not under any obligation to disband NATO just because the SU fell.

Why not just educate us about why the SU collapsed? It collapsed because communism was unsustainable and largely because the SE invaded Afghanistan and spent 10 brutal years in Afghanistan. By the end of the war in Afghanistan, SU was tired, broke, and unable to keep fighting. The SU was bankrupt and unable to keep the republics together.

All the Warsaw pact countries, the equivalent of NATO under the SU went their separate ways, that was when Russia was created and Ukraine became a surveying nation just like the other former SU republics like Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia, including Ukraine and Georgia.

SU fell on its own because of its own failures, ideology, and poor communist economic system, it was never because of NATO or the west.

Russia is doing the same thing and we can all read the writing on the wall.

The West doesn't owe Russia anything and Ukraine is a surveying Nation. Putin can huff and puff till eternity, he can not keep Ukraine, maybe Ukraine won't join NATO, but definitely will join the EU.

Ukrainians don't want to be part of Russia or even be friends with Russia, they want to be part of Western Europe and Putin can not do anything about it.

He already lost this war, Russia is already broke and almost bankrupt just like the soviet union, it's globally isolated socially, culturally and economically and the only major thing they have and sell is oil/Gas and their largest customers, the EU are about to stop buying their oil/gas, many countries can not trade with them, they are already experiencing food shortages and fighting over ordinary sugar.

Dumb Putin just made sure that Russia is in the same basket and category as North Korea, a pariah nation.

That clown gambled and lost so blaming the West for the SU's and Putin's gamble and idiocy sounds flawed and disingenouse.

We cannot simply wash the US clean off the fall of the Soviet Union. US was an active influence. The difficult Mujahiddens of Afghanistan were supported by the smart CIA. That is where Osama bn Laden got his first share of military experience. Soviet Union/Russia and US will forever be at logger heads. They had a long history of bad blood between them, any country thats smart will not come between them as a bait. Many countries that found themselves in that situation even during the capitalism and Communism struggle for control of the world ended in deep crisis long after both countries had left them. To me Ukraine leadership was not smart. It was an avoidable war. Needless if international politics was well played.

Idaytesj29:


We cannot simply wash the US clean off the fall of the Soviet Union. US was an active influence. The difficult Mujahiddens of Afghanistan were supported by the smart CIA. That is where Osama bn Laden got his first share of military experience. Soviet Union/Russia and US will forever be at logger heads. They had a long history of bad blood between them, any country thats smart will not come between them as a bait. Many countries that found themselves in that situation even during the capitalism and Communism struggle for control of the world ended in deep crisis long after both countries had left them. To me Ukraine leadership was not smart. It was an avoidable war. Needless if international politics was well played.

Question.

What do you honestly think Ukraine should have done to prevent the Russian invasion.?

kodded:
Zelensky is US puppet.

They prefer to be US puppet instead of Putin's puppet.

Life is all about choices.

Nearly all the former Soviet republics that used to be under the Soviet Union are all NATO members.

Why are they not friends with Russia?

Russia stinks and Putin's neighbors don't want to be his friend or associate with him, besides, Russia is a poor and depressed country with nothing to offer.

YinkaOlusesi16:
Ukraine is one of the most foolish country in the world, They ruin their own country because of american NATO.

exactly

boyfrank:


Always dishing out falsehoods, Mariupol rejected Russian Annexation. They refused to join the Luhansk, Donesk and Crimea regions, despite being majorly ethnic Russians.

Techguy96:

Stop lying Mariupol never ask for referendum

Both of you should stop using your data to watch porn.

Once you see something detailed like this, it is advisable to put in keywords on Google instead of disgracing your ancestors like this.

No wonder why you support Ukraine. Garbage in, Garbage out.

BKayy:
The question is, is it OK to consider Mariupol as part of Ukraine?

The people of the Mariupol, as well as other Donetsk region have asked Ukraine for a referendum to have their independence in peace if Ukraine still insist on being hostile to Russia who they (DPR) share a lot with but the Ukrainian Government have been denying them that right.

A war of Independence was started in 2014 which lasted for years (though guerilla style after failed open warfare). Ukraine succeeded in suppressing them until the Russian invasion.

So you see, Russian invasion is seen by the people of this region as well as Luhansk as a big brother coming to the rescue.

You know that kind of fight that you are being pummelled and with your remaining strength you looked up and saw you elder brother running towards the scene like John Cena.

So Russia's best way to save his 'little brother' is to kill him off and destroy his land completely?

Kennydoc:


So Russia's best way to save his 'little brother' is to kill him off and destroy his land completely?

Come on, where do you get your own information from? Haven't you heard of DPR? The military arm of the Republic that have been fighting Ukraine for the past 8 years? Pictures of them below.

Anyways, Mariupol can't be destroyed completely unless you use nukes.

What you are seeing in the picture is a small fraction of where urban warfare took place.

Besides, most of the destruction you are seeing there was actually caused by Azov Battalions that use civilian residential area and facilities as a cover for paramilitary operations, cover and they don't hold back when they use explosives there.

YinkaOlusesi16:
Ukraine is one of the most foolish country in the world, They ruin their own country because of american NATO.

When your enemy come knocking at your door and ask you to give up Ur wife and kids, just quietly give them because you want to live long.

If na u be Ukraine, wetin u go do? Russia collect Crimea, u no fight, u run away. Dem come again collect Donbas, u no fight u run away. As if that one no reach dem come again collect lohansk. U jump dense excape into the bush. Your enemy come look so tey, them come hatch plan to collect every thing that is rightfully urs, and you no get where to run to again. Wetin u go do?

Russia is case of when you give a mice a cheese, he won't mind to ask for a cup of milk.

almarthins:


When your enemy come knocking at your door and ask you to give up Ur wife and kids, just quietly give them because you want to live long.

If na u be Ukraine, wetin u go do? Russia collect Crimea, u no fight, u run away. Dem come again collect Donbas, u no fight u run away. As if that one no reach dem come again collect lohansk. U jump dense excape into the bush. Your enemy come look so tey, them come hatch plan to collect every thing that is rightfully urs, and you no get where to run to again. Wetin u go do?

Russia is case of when you give a mice a cheese, he won't mind to ask for a cup of milk.

I think they are admitting that they are lazy, powerless, incompetent and cowards, also that they won't lift a finger to defend their land or protect their people so when bullies and tyrants show up to take their country and enslave their people, they won't fight, they'll just surrender, hand over their country and run away like shameless cowards, this is what they are saying.

almarthins:


When your enemy come knocking at your door and ask you to give up Ur wife and kids, just quietly give them because you want to live long.

If na u be Ukraine, wetin u go do? Russia collect Crimea, u no fight, u run away. Dem come again collect Donbas, u no fight u run away. As if that one no reach dem come again collect lohansk. U jump dense excape into the bush. Your enemy come look so tey, them come hatch plan to collect every thing that is rightfully urs, and you no get where to run to again. Wetin u go do?

Russia is case of when you give a mice a cheese, he won't mind to ask for a cup of milk.

This is what tyrants and megalomaniacs do unless you stop them. Putin is Hitler 2.0.

He invaded Georgia, the world let him slide, he invaded Chechnya, the world let him slide, he invaded Ukraine and took Cremia, the world looked the other way and let him slide, he claimed Dumbass and even declared their independence for them, the world looked the other way and let him slide, the question now is, what is he going to claim next? Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldovia.

The Wst and the rest of the world enabled this mad man, he should have been confronted a long time ago, but like all madmen, they always end up overshooting their own goal.

I'm 100% sure this is his last adventure, thanks to the brave and courageous people of Ukraine.

tamdun:
Former Germany chancellor was against Ukraine joining nato, she knew what the out come would look like....

Biden as a senator back then was against NATO pushing eastward

NigerianAngelo:
Let the Ukranian President just give them Donbass which is made up of ethnic Russians and end all of this.

He is also a war criminal.


Crimea opted to join their motherland in 2014 and the Ukranians are still saying No. No to what exactly?



Besides I have seen videos of Ukranians brutally murdering Russians, or leaving them to die in the cold so they are equally (or more) wicked.
It dawns on me that some of Russia's murders during their retreat might be as a pain for all Ukranians did to them.

10,000 dead soldiers isn't 300 soldiers. That's wicked for people that weren't targeting you (civilians).

So a man points a gun to your head, but by luck you happen to have the tables turned and you have the opportunity to shoot him first. Then you're labelled a murderer. That is exactly the stupid mentality you're portraying of yourself

YinkaOlusesi16:
Ukraine is one of the most foolish country in the world, They ruin their own country because of american NATO.

Are you new to what is happening in international Politics?
Why did Obama came to Africa then without visiting Nigeria?
Do you know that Ukrainians have made Russians a pariah State,as the World now discovered that the Russians are weak , even on land troops!
Russian,by Putin standard has suddenly created arch enemies, including Ukrainians and is for life.
So,if they( Ukrainians) had remained silent, nobody will ever heard about Ukraine.
I can assure you Ukraine will be on the beat again,it's just a matter of time!
Always remember that every battle,wars or fighting will always end on' the Peace Table' so, Russians Military Might is NOT Right!

NigerianAngelo:
Let the Ukranian President just give them Donbass which is made up of ethnic Russians and end all of this.

He is also a war criminal.


Crimea opted to join their motherland in 2014 and the Ukranians are still saying No. No to what exactly?



Besides I have seen videos of Ukranians brutally murdering Russians, or leaving them to die in the cold so they are equally (or more) wicked.
It dawns on me that some of Russia's murders during their retreat might be as a pain for all Ukranians did to them.

10,000 dead soldiers isn't 300 soldiers. That's wicked for people that weren't targeting you (civilians).

Analyst 1

plaindealer:



They prefer to be US puppet instead of Putin's puppet.

Life is all about choices.

Nearly all the former Soviet republics that used to be under the Soviet Union are all NATO members.

Why are they not friends with Russia?

Russia stinks and Putin's neighbors don't want to be his friend or associate with him, besides, Russia is a poor and depressed country with nothing to offer.

yeah I agree with you.

But ask yourself will US allow canada or mexico become Putin puppet?

We saw how US was aggressive with Cuba because of Cuba relationship with Russia

GardenOfGod:
Putin will pay some day

Face your president to eliminate hunger which is one of his campaign promises and in their party manifesto.

BKayy:


Both of you should stop using your data to watch porn.

Once you see something detailed like this, it is advisable to put in keywords on Google instead of disgracing your ancestors like this.

No wonder why you support Ukraine. Garbage in, Garbage out.

As usual, giving out thrash reports with finesse. A sham referendum was organised by the Russian sponsored separatists with only 8 polling units for half a million residents. Most residents avoided the gang infested sham. But here u are quoting them. Anakhoheri.

Commenting on this Russkraine issue is hard . Ukrainians have opted to deal with Russians without mercy , slaughtering ethnic Russians , assasinating Russian POW , blowing up chemical plants . The Ukrainian hate for Russians is what is fueling this war . To the surprised Russians , they are determined to quench Ukrainian fire by leveling them out . Zelensky will succumb when Kalibrs start dropping in Kiev ….. Putin now is ever emboldened to go all out in Ukraine with aerial and artillery attacks, pulling out his troops and letting his missiles and projectiles do the job …..

NigerianAngelo:
Let the Ukranian President just give them Donbass which is made up of ethnic Russians and end all of this.

He is also a war criminal.


Crimea opted to join their motherland in 2014 and the Ukranians are still saying No. No to what exactly?



Besides I have seen videos of Ukranians brutally murdering Russians, or leaving them to die in the cold so they are equally (or more) wicked.
It dawns on me that some of Russia's murders during their retreat might be as a pain for all Ukranians did to them.

10,000 dead soldiers isn't 300 soldiers. That's wicked for people that weren't targeting you (civilians).

YinkaOlusesi16:
Ukraine is one of the most foolish country in the world, They ruin their own country because of american NATO.

How because of NATO

NigerianAngelo:
Let the Ukranian President just give them Donbass which is made up of ethnic Russians and end all of this.

He is also a war criminal.


Crimea opted to join their motherland in 2014 and the Ukranians are still saying No. No to what exactly?



Besides I have seen videos of Ukranians brutally murdering Russians, or leaving them to die in the cold so they are equally (or more) wicked.
It dawns on me that some of Russia's murders during their retreat might be as a pain for all Ukranians did to them.

10,000 dead soldiers isn't 300 soldiers. That's wicked for people that weren't targeting you (civilians).

You know the bizzare thing? Soviet Union headed by Russia allowed it disintegrate without firing a single shot, but the countries that came out of it won't let others leave without war. Yet Russia is supposed to be the bad guy. Ukraine is fighting to keep ethnic Russians in Ukraine as servants.

Putin has been a good person, I know an African would have nuked Kiev five times now.

Another thing is that although donbass is Russian speaking, without donbass, Ukraine will be landlocked and won't be able to ship their products.

NigerianAngelo:
Let the Ukranian President just give them Donbass which is made up of ethnic Russians and end all of this.

He is also a war criminal.


Crimea opted to join their motherland in 2014 and the Ukranians are still saying No. No to what exactly?





Besides I have seen videos of Ukranians brutally murdering Russians, or leaving them to die in the cold so they are equally (or more) wicked.
It dawns on me that some of Russia's murders during their retreat might be as a pain for all Ukranians did to them.

10,000 dead soldiers isn't 300 soldiers. That's wicked for people that weren't targeting you (civilians).

People like you will shout kill kill when they hear Biafra, just saying
No one is normal in this world again
Na God atomic bomb we dey wait for this world

NigerianAngelo:
Let the Ukranian President just give them Donbass which is made up of ethnic Russians and end all of this.

He is also a war criminal.


Crimea opted to join their motherland in 2014 and the Ukranians are still saying No. No to what exactly?




Besides I have seen videos of Ukranians brutally murdering Russians, or leaving them to die in the cold so they are equally (or more) wicked.
It dawns on me that some of Russia's murders during their retreat might be as a pain for all Ukranians did to them.

10,000 dead soldiers isn't 300 soldiers. That's wicked for people that weren't targeting you (civilians).

People like you will shout kill kill when they hear Biafra, just saying
No one is normal in this world again
Na God atomic bomb we dey wait for this world

Oyiboman69:
how does the Russian speaking tribe get there in the first place?... That's the question you'll have to ask yourself.

Oga, Ukrainian speaking tribes live very far away from donbass region, So that area was never Ukrainians to fight for either. The original owners of donbass region were expelled during the Soviet Union era for one reason or the other and the place was resettled by Russians, but the region was never ever settled by Ukrainians to start with.

Most of the countries that came out of the Soviet Union were artificial countries just like how we saw from Yugoslavia where countries like Serbia-Montenegro Bosnia-Herzergovina etc, that has since further disintegrated into Serbia, Montenegro,Bosnia, Herzegovina etc.
This the same as Ukraine. Ukraine is an artificial country that came out of USSR, now Ethnic Ukrainians being in charge like the "Fulani" of Ukraine is preventing further disintegration into more organic countries, preferring to subjugate other ethnicities in Ukraine.

When you argue, know all that is going on. We have the same shit going on here in Nigeria, and guess who is preventing our disintegration? Same set of people supporting Ethnic Ukrainians in Ukraine.

Same set of people bringin "freedom and liberty" to the whole world.

plaindealer:


Question.

What do you honestly think Ukraine should have done to prevent the Russian invasion.?

I think, Ukraine should have joined the European Union for the economic benefits and forget about militarizing with the joining NATO.

Alternatively, Ukraine can have a South Korea like protection agreement with The US or UK or France or the three all together, for protection against any aggressor as another option.

When Russia made her position known that she will take a military position against Ukraine if she does pursue joining NATO, Ukraine should have halted all the moves for the sake of the civilian lives. As against her adamant pursue of the military agenda.
Russia is a big fish, Ukraine is a small one. In this system, big fish eat small fish. Small fish eat worms.

A country like Nigeria wouldn't want to be at logger heads with US or UK, whether Nigeria is right or wrong, it will be a conflict we can never win. So, Nigeria will do well to tactically avoid conflicts with any of them.

Imagine the destructions in various cities and suburbs, the dead bodies and the devastation all over Ukraine and not a building has been bombed in Russia. The situation is just terrible and at the same time very avoidable and needles.

babyfaceafrica:
They can't be free wither they win or lose. If they are free from Russia, they become heavily dependent on Nato and US that helped them. Which means anything they do from here, uncle Sam has the final say. You think the funds USA and Europe AR giving na free?

This is the truth. They can only be free when they play neutral with both sides,

Malawian:

Oga, Ukrainian speaking tribes live very far away from donbass region, So that area was never Ukrainians to fight for either. The original owners of donbass region were expelled during the Soviet Union era for one reason or the other and the place was resettled by Russians, but the region was never ever settled by Ukrainians to start with.

Most of the countries that came out of the Soviet Union were artificial countries just like how we saw from Yugoslavia where countries like Serbia-Montenegro Bosnia-Herzergovina etc, that has since further disintegrated into Serbia, Montenegro,Bosnia, Herzegovina etc.
This the same as Ukraine. Ukraine is an artificial country that came out of USSR, now Ethnic Ukrainians being in charge like the "Fulani" of Ukraine is preventing further disintegration into more organic countries, preferring to subjugate other ethnicities in Ukraine.

When you argue, know all that is going on. We have the same shit going on here in Nigeria, and guess who is preventing our disintegration? Same set of people supporting Ethnic Ukrainians in Ukraine.

Same set of people bringin "freedom and liberty" to the whole world.

it is either you're not being true to yourself or you just don't know what we're discussing here. When Queen Catherine rose into power, she expanded her territory and that was some of the major reasons why you see Russian speaking language allover those territory. it is the height of frivolity to call Ukraine an artificial country because the fact that they were forced in to the Soviet Union by past Russian leaders doesn't mean they were not a country on their own before the annexation. Its like you saying that there were igbos before the British almagamation or annexation of Nigeria by the British.