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Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by vinceyinnovation: 7:53am On Aug 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee: Oh sorry! (My bad) that means you are a Confusionist by religion. You dey cause confusion everywhere with your threads and comments. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkiee: 2:05pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
tctrills:Every single last one of them is like that. Jesus Christ warned His followers against wolves in sheep's clothing for good reason. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 2:06pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:He also warned that you judge not. I know pastors who give and not recieve |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkiee: 2:09pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
tonicyril:I did read it well, and I am afraid I don't see where in that context Jesus Christ insinuates that He wants praise from only those who are His followers in that entire context. So, be more specific in your explanation. Where did Jesus Christ make this exception you claim? 31 “If I tell people about myself, they cannot be sure that what I say is true.Is it before or after declaring He does not want praise from any Human? |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkiee: 2:09pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
tctrills:I am not the one who judges here... they were judged by the words of Jesus Christ from over 2000 years ago. I simply repeat what Jesus Christ Himself stated. By the way, Jesus Christ commands His followers to judge all things according to the standard He has set up - God's New Covenant. So surely you see why you need to hold everything up against the standard that is Jesus Christ, particularly all that which claims to be of HIs Him, right? |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkiee: 2:10pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
vinceyinnovation:I don't think I am the source of your confusion since all I do is tell you exactly what Jesus Christ said. So what confuses you is Jesus Christ, not me. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tonicyril: 2:14pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:what i am saying, "quoting what Jesus said" is simple... Wen u dont do my will, dont bother to praise me.. That is all |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkiee: 2:17pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
tonicyril:The thing about God is you don't have the authority to make up your own ideas and then pin it on Him. He is the Law and it is what He says that goes. So, where is this claim of yours to be found in the context below or anywhere in scripture for that matter? 31 “If I tell people about myself, they cannot be sure that what I say is true.Jesus Christ said He does not want praise from those who do not believe in Him, nor from any human. However, you claim instead that Jesus Christ said there that He only wants praises from those who do His will. Where is this written? |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tonicyril: 2:27pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee: What are u arguing, i dont even understand ur stance again laidis U said it was not in the bible that God requested us to praise him, isnt that wat u said?? And i provided u a verse which countered ur claim, shebi?? Now u said Jesus said He does not need our praise by quoting the only verse without showing us the precedent verses which led to Him sayin so. Then i asked u to show us the other verses leading to the verse, u showed us and i pointed it out to u that He was only talking about how we rejected Gods in our doings and still want to be offering praises. Paul in the book of romans said and i quote that can we remain in sin and have grace abound?? No. Which led to me telling u that if u love God and do His will, then u re required to praise Him, if u despise God and stand filthy before Him, then u need to purge ursef before offering some praises unto Him. Hey!! Ur filthy praises are not needed if u dont make ur ways upright before Him. If it was wen i was so deep in bible ni, i would have argued much with u, but now i am more of gentile, i dont even go to church again regularly talk more of reading my bible, if not i would have loved to engage u till one if us get tired. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkiee: 2:32pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
tonicyril:Please pay attention and stop trying to deviate! Again, You boldly claimed that Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God, who declared that He does not desire praise from you(those who do not do His Will), or any human, instead meant that He wanted praise only from those who do His will. So my question remains, where did Jesus Christ in fact say what you claim since nothing in the context provided alludes to that? 38 The Father’s teaching does not live in you, because you don’t believe in the one the Father sent.Where does this claim of yours come from? The below image is of the greek writings of John 5 vs 41 and it clearly shows Jesus Christ meant what He said there, which you claim is false, how come?
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Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 3:23pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:No you just judged calling all pastors the same. You don't know all pastors so it's judgemental to all about all pastors. Here are your very words Every single last one of them is like that. Jesus Christ warned His followers against wolves in sheep's clothing for good reason. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by MICHEALADEX(m): 6:23pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
Kobicove: Are you ok? Oh he's also rehearsing his own preaching too with them? |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkie: 6:26pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
MICHEALADEX:ROFLMAO |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkiee: 7:04pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
tctrills:Again... I am not the judge here. The Words of Jesus Christ from over 2000 years ago are what condemn them all as false teachers and false prophets. He told you that He alone is the good Shepherd, meaning everyone else who asserts himself a shepherd is a liar. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 10:10pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:Now you are being a false witness. Jesus condemned all false teachers he never said all preachers are false. So you claiming that every one of them is in it for the money makes you a false witness against Christ. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkiee: 11:36pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
tctrills:Again... I am not the judge here. The Words of Jesus Christ from over 2000 years ago are what condemn them all as false teachers and false prophets. He told you that He alone is the good Shepherd, meaning everyone else who asserts himself a shepherd is a liar. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 11:50pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:You don't understand the words of Christ and you don't have the spirit of Christ so you don't know a false or a true prophet. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkiee: 12:03am On Aug 18, 2022 |
tctrills:Again... I am not the judge here. The Words of Jesus Christ from over 2000 years ago are what condemn them all as false teachers and false prophets. He told you that He alone is the good Shepherd, meaning everyone else who asserts himself a shepherd is a liar. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 1:06am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:He never said everyone else is a liar nor did he say he is the only shepherd. He commanded Peter to feed his sheep so clearly, he isn't the only shepherd. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 1:11am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:Ephesians 4:11-13 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkie: 1:46am On Aug 18, 2022 |
tctrills:You need to use your head in these things abeg! In John 10 vs 1 - 16, Jesus Christ declared that He is The Good Shepherd, insisting that everyone everyone are merely workers. What does that tell you of anyone who comes brandishing the claim that he or she is a shepherd as well? Peter, like every other person who is a follower of Jesus Christ, is a worker. And all workers are instructed to feed the sheep and take care of the sheep if they are to have any hope for Heaven. Not a single place in the gospel did Jesus Christ in fact call Peter as a shepherd to anyone. So that claim is not only a lie but against Jesus Christ. How many The Good Shepherds are there in the Kingdom that you belong to? |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkie: 1:48am On Aug 18, 2022 |
tctrills:Jesus Christ has nothing to do with that since He clearly told His followers that He alone is Teacher, Leader, Helper, Shepherd over them all. And Paul, the one who supposedly wrote that letter is known to have been a pharisee, which may explain why he suggested roles be assigned much like it is found in God's Old Covenant Law of Moses - among those of the tribe of Levi. But God's New Covenant is nothing like the Old Covenant and there are no special people in the Kingdom of God as all are called to do the exact same work. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 7:16am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Your point is that Paul is a faud and a liar |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 7:19am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Jesus Christ did not instruct all workers to feed his sheep. He instructed Peter thrice. Jesus Christ by commanding Peter to feed his sheep simple means Peter is a shepherd. It's the job of the shepherd to feed sheep. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 7:22am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:if he alone is the leader and helper, he wouldn't have told Peter to feed his sheep. He wouldn't have needed Peters help. He wouldn't have told his followers to preach his gospel, he would have done it by himself. He wouldn't have called Apostles and set them apart. And he told them that they would do greater works than he. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 7:56am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:According to you, Jesus Christ condemns Paul, Peter and all his other apostles who were also teachers. They are also liars. Remember, it was the apostles of Christ that appointed pastors, elders, teachers and so forth in the Church. So you are saying that the entire Apostleship is a scam. Let's just say, I would rather believe Christ and his apostles than believe you. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkie: 9:17am On Aug 18, 2022 |
tctrills:Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. If you don't feed His sheep, and you don't take care of His sheep, you will never enter into Heaven. Stop interpreting what is written and instead begin to learn from that which He taught instead. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkie: 9:18am On Aug 18, 2022 |
tctrills:I am not called as a witness for what are Paul's opinions but instead for the Truth of God, Jesus Christ. You decide who you will serve. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkie: 9:20am On Aug 18, 2022 |
tctrills:That statement makes no sense at all. A Master who has many servants whom He possesses can command His workers to feed and care for His other servants. He made this known in parable and in clear speech. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by Kobojunkie: 9:25am On Aug 18, 2022 |
tctrills:I am not called as a witness for Paul but instead for Jesus Christ. If Paul is whom you serve, that is fine by me. All I can tell you however is that which is the Truth of God, Jesus Christ , from all that claimed by men. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 10:34am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:You are not a witness for anyone. Did you see Jesus. How can you witness for someone you did not see. You only know what those that witnessed him told you. |
Re: You Are Boring Me To Death – Pastor Tobi Adegboyega Shuts Down Choristers by tctrills: 10:36am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:A person who takes care of sheep is called a shepherd. If Christ instructed Peter to feed his sheep, he made him a shepherd. Or do you have you personal definition of a shepherd? Matthew 10:5-6 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Jesus commanded his Apostles to feed his sheep and to find his lost sheep. Please can you define a shepherd? |
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