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Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Prettychild(f): 8:33am On Oct 20, 2022 |
immortalcrown:Not so Sir, even if he drives him to his shop and all that you listed, the boss will still not win. What if the money was a gratuitous donation to the boy from a Good Samaritan? |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Allisgud: 8:38am On Oct 20, 2022 |
Even after the hole years that apprentice settlement no go reach 8 million |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by immortalcrown(m): 8:40am On Oct 20, 2022 |
Prettychild:Court does not use your kind of reasoning to rule cases. Even if someone testifies to have given the boy the money, there are many other things to consider. On which date and what time did the boy play the bet? If the bet was played when the boy was meant to be taking care of the master's shop, the master will either win the whole money or a part of it because the master's business suffered one form of loss or the other when the apprentice left the shop to play the bet. I am not supporting the master to lay a claim on the money. I am just pointing out how such a case will be treated in a court of law. But it seems many people here do not know how the law opperates. Well, I have just made my point. I don't need to stress myself on this argument because there is no trophy for the winner in this argument. 1 Like |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by SmartyPants(m): 8:49am On Oct 20, 2022 |
immortalcrown: 1. Can a court of law handle an apprenticeship case? If yes, what is the essence of your saying the form of apprenticeship is unknown to law? I've just told you the case will not be treated according to the customary rules of your apprenticeship system. In other words, the parties can come to Court but the case will be determined by the normal laws of the land. The "master" will have little to no argument whatsoever. 2. If an apprentice is proven guilty in a case that involves his master, will the court rule the case against the master just because the apprentice is a weaker one? If no, what is your point? I told you quite clearly that the law will adopt a position that is sympathetic to the apprentice but not necessarily to the complete disadvantage of the master. That is to tell you that the probability of the apprentice winning any employment dispute is higher. 3. You said the law favouring the apprentice does not mean he will win the case. Therefore, I am right for saying the master can win the case. No. I told you the general rule: in all matters of employment, the Courts will be sympathetic to the employee. If the nwa boy comes to court to argue that his settlement is too small, for example, the Court may admit such an argument and will likely favour the boy, because the law recognizes is vulnerability. But the oga can potentially win such a case, where it is shown that the settlement is actually fair: for example, by showing that the settlement exceeds the amount the boy could have saved if paid a fair salary, adjusted by interest to offset inflation and opportunity costs. But I also told you the specific rule: in this particular case, the so-called master cannot win. He has no legal claim because his claim is rooted in the customary rules of the nwa boy system. I have told you that the law will not recognize these rules because they are legally akin to slavery. 1 Like |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by immortalcrown(m): 8:56am On Oct 20, 2022 |
SmartyPants:1. The normal law of the land will maintain that the apprentice belongs to the master throughout the apprentiship period. Even the apprentice's parents have no authority over the apprentice as long as the apprenticeship is on. The parents can only withdraw the apprentice from the apprenticeship and whatever the apprentice did under the master before the withdrawal is bounded by the apprenticeship. 2. Everything you said about the law being sympathetic is senseless because if it is proven that the apprentice used the master's money to play the bet, the master will be awarded either the whole money or a part of the money. Even if someone testifies to have given the boy the money, there are many other things to consider. On which date and what time did the boy play the bet? If the bet was played when the boy was meant to be taking care of the master's shop, the master will either win the whole money or a part of it because the master's business suffered one form of loss or the other when the apprentice left the shop to play the bet. I am not supporting the master to lay a claim on the money. I am just pointing out how such a case will be treated in a court of law. But it seems many people here do not know how the law opperates. Well, I have just made my point. I don't need to stress myself on this argument because there is no trophy for the winner in this argument. Suit yourself. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Bvesan(m): 9:02am On Oct 20, 2022 |
immortalcrown: I'm no lawyer, and I've followed this back and forth, but I can cleary tell that you can't distinguish between actual constitutional law and tradition. What you have in mind is akin to Slavery and no court of law will support that, |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by immortalcrown(m): 9:03am On Oct 20, 2022 |
Bvesan:Suit yourself. If you like, call me a slaver. Suit yourself. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by asahnwaKC: 9:03am On Oct 20, 2022 |
Even that his share he will still finish it on bet and go broke , so better he give his oga small bcus las las him go still return to oga house. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by SmartyPants(m): 9:03am On Oct 20, 2022 |
immortalcrown: The normal law of which land? Lol. You still think we are talking about your traditional law here?? lol. Please, I was never arguing with you. I only shared legal knowledge with you. If you doubt me, try and take any nwa boy case to court and see what becomes of yourself since you think its about proving some point on nairaland. Knowledge is for you to accept or reject, and since you've chosen to reject it, good for you. 1 Like |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by immortalcrown(m): 9:07am On Oct 20, 2022 |
SmartyPants:Maybe you do not know the meaning of the word, "argument". Once you disagree with a statement, it is an argument. If I say something is like this and you say it is like that, we are arguing. As for taking an apprentice to court, I have seen many of such cases. I know a case where a court ordered the apprentice to either prolong his apprenticeship under his boss or the apprentice's family should pay part of the money the apprentice stole from the master. The family will pay just a part and the remaining part would be taken as what the boss would have used to settle the boy. The court ruled the case that way because it was proven that the apprentice stole and mismanaged millions of Naira from the boss. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by DaddyFabooluz(m): 9:07am On Oct 20, 2022 |
joyandfaith: Which parents or whatever. Except you don't really know what it means to be an apprentice. 1 Like |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by joyandfaith: 9:14am On Oct 20, 2022 |
DaddyFabooluz: What does it mean to be apprentice? Are they slaves? Slaves have no right to own anything. Apprentices have their right intact. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by DadaHammed: 9:17am On Oct 20, 2022 |
Prettychild: You people are just funny on this forum. Do you know why apprentices are not liable to pay taxes under the law? |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by ogwuche4u(m): 9:18am On Oct 20, 2022 |
FullBlastLight: Maybe the boy is a minor. Oga go collect 8m from my hand? Na ogun go kill am. to hell with his shop. All the ticket wey cut, him give me part of it? I dey vex aswear 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by DadaHammed: 9:18am On Oct 20, 2022 |
ThatsONYI: Unfortunately, many millionaires and I daresay billionaires have emerged through it. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Badonasty(m): 9:20am On Oct 20, 2022 |
Lol…if I give Oga one Naira make I die |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Juafre: 9:21am On Oct 20, 2022 |
Very Funny! The boy is just an apprentice, he is not a slave owned by his boss. If he should give his boss any share of the money it should be on his own free will. I think it greediness from the boss |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Thazard(m): 9:23am On Oct 20, 2022 |
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Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by SmartyPants(m): 9:24am On Oct 20, 2022 |
immortalcrown: I never said you cannot take an apprentice to Court. It's like you are hard of hearing or just stubborn. For the last time: I said the Court will apply the normal laws of the land. You are talking about theft, which is of course known to the laws of Nigeria, and which the Court in your example, treated by ordering specific performance of the contract, failing which, payment of damages. I'm sure you can find similarities between your case and what I said below: If the nwa boy comes to court to argue that his settlement is too small, for example, the Court may admit such an argument and will likely favour the boy, because the law recognizes is vulnerability. But the oga can potentially win such a case, where it is shown that the settlement is actually fair: for example, by showing that the settlement exceeds the amount the boy could have saved if paid a fair salary, adjusted by interest to offset inflation and opportunity costs. This is vastly different from when you want to assert an ownership right over anything the boy owns. That is slavery by Nigerian laws. So good luck arguing that in Court. Anyway, all that is there to be said has been said. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by immortalcrown(m): 9:25am On Oct 20, 2022 |
SmartyPants:Suit yourself. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by DadaHammed: 9:28am On Oct 20, 2022 |
SmartyPants: Nwa boy 'Igbo apprenticeship' system is recognised under the customary laws. There is a reason why apprentices are exuded from paying taxes even when they are above 18 years. Read wide and open your mind.
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Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by jehoha696(m): 9:31am On Oct 20, 2022 |
I juz dey laff....who witness diz yarn...,naw mber month we dey so,naw so all diz winnings dey happen,...make una no fall for bet scam...,naw there way to encourage more pple in betting,u go juz dey hear nd watch arranged script online... |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Thazard(m): 9:33am On Oct 20, 2022 |
flexyrule:As in ehn! The oga dey mad! |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Caseywilliams(m): 9:35am On Oct 20, 2022 |
FullBlastLight: Me win millions and my oga go come hear am?? I dey mad? Omoh no be by forming gra gra.... This nah why me i love Aba boys vibes... They're Always a guy man whenever the need arises. No dull moment. The guy nah Mumu. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Anieke77(m): 9:40am On Oct 20, 2022 |
immortalcrown:you dey osha |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by ekpeowo4ub(m): 9:50am On Oct 20, 2022 |
DashHaulageltd:. taaah |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by superboyspecial: 9:51am On Oct 20, 2022 |
immortalcrown: Now this is a man who thinks. I love this� |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by Osombo: 9:56am On Oct 20, 2022 |
God picked him call, him put am for hands-free abi loudspeaker |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by SmartyPants(m): 9:57am On Oct 20, 2022 |
DadaHammed: 1. Apprentices do not earn an income so they are not expected to pay tax Mr. man. 2. I do not have time to teach you a whole lecture on customary law, but take this: a. Nwa boy is incompatible with the laws of the land because the laws of the land have express provisions for apprenticeships b. The specific aspect of nwa boy culture under examination will not meet what we call the repugnancy test even if there was no statutory impediment, which there is. Whether you agree or not, no further replies will be honoured. |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by okenze007: 10:05am On Oct 20, 2022 |
We should be objective in our judgement. the boy in question has been using his boss money to gamble without his knowledge and eventually this one paid he should share it with his boss cos even the money used in playing it belong to the boss and the boy also is still serving the boss. Suppose, he committed crime who will they hold, his boss. he is lucky he has a good boss who only demanded for half |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by histemple: 10:10am On Oct 20, 2022 |
Nobody won anything. It's the betting companies trying to stimulate people into betting by fabricating these stories. 1 Like |
Re: Apprentice Wins N16m Sports Bet In Alaba Market, His Boss Orders by DadaHammed: 10:14am On Oct 20, 2022 |
SmartyPants: Pick up that book and read, it chronicles the laws governing the apprenticeship system under customary legal instruments. You are currently bereft of information on the topic, so you cannot ascribe to yourself the position of an expert on customary laws and culture. You can't be competent enough to push for amendment of a law without knowing the basics of such laws. |
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