elnegrodeafriqu:
Is investing in stocks a sin?

Of course not! Business, which is gambling by the way, is not a sin.

When one sows a seed with 1000 naira and be expecting a contract or favour of more than one million is it a gamble?

elnegrodeafriqu:


Which means if a person invests in a biz, and the biz doesn't work out, he has sinned? For the sake of all things sane pls don't say this is what you're insinuating.

Investment in a biz means that the person invested in must not run away. Did you not all shout thieves when MMM ran away?

BigYash:
Juju dey o,but when d repercussions start coming, e no dey sweet.The spirits that control these things don't joke o. These Yahoo boys dey use juju draw money nau,but the sacrifices involved, no be child's play.Some end of paying later with their lives. But for this sport bet,its just different.

Here, many betting stations are close to microfinances, ATMS and banks
People that don't even know what yellow card means are also playing
If you ask them to mention one Nigerian player, they'll mention Kanu
At the end, they'll start shouting
'my 1 million'

elnegrodeafriqu:


Which means if a person invests in a biz, and the biz doesn't work out, he has sinned? For the sake of all things sane pls don't say this is what you're insinuating.

Investment in a biz means that the person invested in must not run away. Did you not all shout thieves when MMM and co ran away?

Dtruthspeaker:


Now you are trying to change the argument because you can not counter for you saw I understood it and you responded and now that you are not able to counter, you are trying to change the argument into another thing. E no go work!

Change what argument? What on earth are you talking about?

You are just opinionated on this. You've labelled betting a sin from day one without wanting to know the meaning. That's what is at play here.

Look up the word 'stealing'.... you refused.

So enlightening you on it is gonna be near impossible.

Stop all this quotations..no where in the bible was gambling mentioned.....even your life is a gamble, either you die trying to live.

Well i dey play bet and i have won reasonably....most importantly i bet responsibly!

Kobojunkie:
Of course not! Business, which is gambling by the way, is not a sin.

Oh! It's a biz. Do you know how the stock market works? For your info, it's basically gambling. Now I admit, to many Christians, "what I don't like, and that I don't do, and that I don't understand must be a sin", then they look for some nebulous scriptures to justify such. Exactly what is being done here.
The op states that gambling is a sin because it is a profit from other's losses. A company's stock is dependent on the company's growth, which is based on its market share, which is usually based on killing or stealing from the market of competing companies, which leads to losses by some other institutions/individuals. Got the picture?

Aemmyjah:


Here, many betting stations are close to microfinances, ATMS and banks
People that don't even know what yellow card means are also playing
If you ask them to mention one Nigerian player, they'll mention Kanu
At the end, they'll start shouting
'my 1 million'

. No be small Kanu o.. Winning sport bet is basically luck,and little stats.. I have heard of cases where people pick games as their instinct directed them,and boom they became millionaires. Sport bet makes some rich and makes some broke beyond redemption But adding juju,na waste of time.. Juju man go just use the person cashout

elnegrodeafriqu:
Oh! It's a biz. Do you know how the stock market works? For your info, it's basically gambling. Now I admit, to many Christians, "what I don't like, and that I don't do, and that I don't understand must be a sin", then they look for some nebulous scriptures to justify such. Exactly what is being done here.
■ The op states that gambling is a sin because it is a profit from other's losses. A company's stock is dependent on the company's growth, which is based on its market share, which is usually based on killing or stealing from the market of competing companies, which leads to losses by some other institutions/individuals. Got the picture?

1. Business itself is gambling as it is all about playing a game of chance, pretty much like much of what is life.

2. I am not here to hold briefs for the OP and others who seek to put words in God's mouth for the sake of being right in their way.

AZControversial:


In betting, there's a legal agreement between you and the betting company, which is stated in their terms and conditions.

In other words, you have agreed that if you lose your bet, you walk away with nothing. So there's nothing like stealing there.

Sin emanates from unfairness. When one steals from another, that's unfairness. You took away from someone without their permission or notice.

i wish i will see you to buy you at least 2 bottles of hero for this explanation. You have said it all.

AZControversial:


Change what argument? What on earth are you talking about?

You are just opinionated on this. You've labelled betting a sin from day one without wanting to know the meaning. That's what is at play here.

Look up the word 'stealing'.... you refused.

So enlightening you on it is gonna be near impossible.

Nothing you do will work. We both knew the meaning of stealing when the argument started until you could not rebut. So no road.

Jokanem:
Is Gambling a Sin?

Although the Bible does not discuss gambling in detail, we can discern from Bible principles that God views gambling as a sin.​—Ephesians 5:​17. a

Gambling is driven by greed, which God hates. (1 Corinthians 6:​9, 10; Ephesians 5:​3, 5)

Gamblers hope to gain money through the losses of others, but the Bible condemns coveting other people’s possessions.​—Exodus 20:17; Romans 7:7; 13:​9, 10.

Gambling, even for small amounts, can arouse a destructive love of money.​—1 Timothy 6:​9, 10.

Gamblers often rely on superstitions or luck. However, God views such beliefs as a form of idolatry, which is incompatible with his worship.​—Isaiah 65:11.

Rather than promote a desire to get something for nothing, the Bible encourages hard work. (Ecclesiastes 2:​24; Ephesians 4:​28) Those who follow the Bible’s advice can “eat food they themselves earn.”​—2 Thessalonians 3:​10, 12.

Gambling can arouse an unhealthy competitive spirit, which is disapproved in the Bible.​—Galatians 5:​26.

Forex nko

Dtruthspeaker:


See funny justification. Forex and all those shitty games are Frauds designed to steal the earnings of simple people.

So people are just contributing to their own poverty in their bid to make a gain they did not work for hiding under the lie of "let your money work for you".

Is money a living thing that it should work?

Do you understand forex

How to make Money from Data Reselling without a website and make profit
http://nigeria101.business.blog/2023/03/05/how-to-make-money-from-data-reselling-in-nigeria/

immanuelsize:

does having a share in a company whereby you will be in your house and your money will be increasing, is it a sin?

Shares na normal level

Aemmyjah:


I can enter but if there is no much people there but I don't go to the counter cos that is when someone will snap and post of one of us preaching and you will think we are betting.
Similarly, we won't enter a brothel

I fear una for here

Dtruthspeaker:


Nothing you do will work. We both knew the meaning of stealing when the argument started until you could not rebut. So no road.

Lol. No road. The reason i said you're opinionated. So need to argue anymore.

And don't say we both knew. You alone don't know the meaning of stealing till now.
If you did, you won't call betting stealing. And there wouldn't have been need for the long talk.

Fearyourcreator:

Do you understand forex

I understand stealing and The Law, that you can not plant stone and dig up yam.

immanuelsize:

i wish i will see you to buy you at least 2 bottles of hero for this explanation. You have said it all.

Thanks sir.

You just have to spell it out to them because they are too judgemental. Some don't even want to know the actual meaning.

AZControversial:


Lol. No road. The reason i said you're opinionated. So need to argue anymore...

No don't argue anymore. Arguments must have an end and they end when one of the opponents can not counter.

No one can justify sin for God has Said He will never justify it.

Jokanem:
Is Gambling a Sin?

Although the Bible does not discuss gambling in detail, we can discern from Bible principles that God views gambling as a sin.​—Ephesians 5:​17. a

Gambling is driven by greed, which God hates. (1 Corinthians 6:​9, 10; Ephesians 5:​3, 5)

Gamblers hope to gain money through the losses of others, but the Bible condemns coveting other people’s possessions.​—Exodus 20:17; Romans 7:7; 13:​9, 10.

Gambling, even for small amounts, can arouse a destructive love of money.​—1 Timothy 6:​9, 10.

Gamblers often rely on superstitions or luck. However, God views such beliefs as a form of idolatry, which is incompatible with his worship.​—Isaiah 65:11.

Rather than promote a desire to get something for nothing, the Bible encourages hard work. (Ecclesiastes 2:​24; Ephesians 4:​28) Those who follow the Bible’s advice can “eat food they themselves earn.”​—2 Thessalonians 3:​10, 12.

Gambling can arouse an unhealthy competitive spirit, which is disapproved in the Bible.​—Galatians 5:​26.

Op, the bible does not explicitly say gambling is a sin or that it's immoral.

However, from experience, I'll tell you that gamblers are liable to lose money, time, sanity, morality on the long run

In one of Paul's letters to the people of Corinth. "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient"

Gambling a risky action undertaken with the hope of success.

You mentioned "Forex" ...think of what those mallams do when you exchange your dollar for naira or vice versa. Do you call that gambling? Well, that's Foreign exchange aka Forex.

The digital aspect of it is what you're aware of which people out of greed, inadequate knowledge, etc have made it look like gambling.

If you're a business person, the business you currently is risk bound. That's a gamble. The degree of uncertainty is however what makes it advisable or not.

Fearyourcreator:

I fear una for here

Na una go still complain

You bible urchins and zealots are arseholes...wait o...the story of job is what? Lotto?

God created man and sent him to the world to see if he would sin or come back to him is what...sporty bet


Make una shut up jare

elnegrodeafriqu:
Is investing in stocks a sin?

No
INVESTMENT is not GAMBLING

elnegrodeafriqu:


Oh! It's a biz. Do you know how the stock market works? For your info, it's basically gambling. Now I admit, to many Christians, "what I don't like, and that I don't do, and that I don't understand must be a sin", then they look for some nebulous scriptures to justify such. Exactly what is being done here.
The op states that gambling is a sin because it is a profit from other's losses. A company's stock is dependent on the company's growth, which is based on its market share, which is usually based on killing or stealing from the market of competing companies, which leads to losses by some other institutions/individuals. Got the picture?

Have you been out of Nigeria? When you switch your naira to USD or any other currency, that'll depend on the exchange rate for that time (mins, hours, days as the case maybe) if the equivalent amount exchanged is higher than the original amount exchanged, would you say you've stolen?

Kobojunkie:
How about we start by understanding what sin is.

Sin refers to direct disobedience of God's commandments or teachings in His Law. So, where God has given men only about 100 commandments and teachings in His Law, it means that there are about 100 laws that one is meant to obey or be found in transgression of should one disobey any of them. God makes clear in His Law what He wants us to do and what He wants us not to do. These terms and conditions contained in His Law — the agreements that define the relationship between God and man— are what define clearly for us what is a sin against God from what isn't.

Now, Jesus Christ is God's Law and agreement for us in the Kingdom of God, and nowhere in His Gospel which defines the terms and conditions of the agreement/contract we make with God is it indicated or even insinuated that gambling is sin. Anyone who tries to add it as sin does so against God who did not see fit to include it as sin against Him.

I think you're so right, because God knows the future and he didn't see it fit to include gambling as a sin

Brooktrader:


Have you been out of Nigeria? When you switch your naira to USD or any other currency, that'll depend on the exchange rate for that time (mins, hours, days as the case maybe) if the equivalent amount exchanged is higher than the original amount exchanged, would you say you've stolen?

What has exchange of currency got to do with the stock market? I should presume you can read? Now, go over what I posted and tell me how it remotely relates to whatever you just replied to now.

Dtruthspeaker:


Investment in a biz means that the person invested in must not run away. Did you not all shout thieves when MMM and co ran away?

So because MMM was a fraud, then all investment is a fraud? Same way as because you have fake pastors, then all pastors are fake, right?

Aemmyjah:


Hahahahahah
See this one
I quote from the Bible and it has nothing to do with the GB
So you want to tell us that apart from Jehovahs witnesses, all other churches now approve of gambling? Omg... Nothing can surprise me

Why not visit Google and type 'God's view of gambling'
There are several sites and articles that talks about it and come back to tell us whether it is a doctrinal thing or not
I have non witness friends that preach against it. Gambling is fuelled by greed. I'm sorry to tell you this cos it is a truth you don't want to hear

How can you not take risks as a businessman?
That's gambling
There are however risk evaluation and management departments in business enterprises.

Unrealistic gambling is what kills.. the likes of sports bookmarkers, casinos... The risk management isn't feasible as the likes of trading stocks, forex, CFDs, etc. The later however can turn to gambling when there's no risk evaluation and management.

elnegrodeafriqu:


What has exchange of currency got to do with the stock market? I should presume you can read? Now, go over what I posted and tell me how it remotely relates to whatever you just replied to now.

When you can articulate of country as a company and thier currency as thier stock, then come back to me.

Kobojunkie:
Stop rambling!

You gamble each time you try to have a child with your wife. You go in expecting and hoping that the child will not come out with a birth defect. It is all a gamble really as no one is guaranteed a healthy baby but we all try our luck anyways. That is gambling! Basically, everything that is of this world and not of the Kingdom of God is a gamble. Even your marriage is also a gamble. you go in hoping that it will turn out great and bright but the probability that it will fail is there.

The problem here is that you don't have faith in God. Learn to trust God in all things and your life will never remain the same. Have you ever wonder how this babies are formed and fed for a period of nine months in their mothers womb through umbilical cord? You can't do any about this, it's not your call , so learn to know your limit and after learn to trust in God. Don't gamble because you think you can be a God .