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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by PointB: 1:33pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Have you tried to research the source of the New Testament works? Did you know about the Council of Nicea? 1 Like |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 3:49pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
PointB: I know about all that |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 3:50pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
PointB: All your points have no relevance |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 3:51pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Maynman: The historical James or mythical James? The historical Chrestians or mythical ones? Historical or forged Antioch? Maynment |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 3:52pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Maynman: Which Mary and Joseph comes to mind? Who is Mary and who is Joseph that you're mentioning? Ment |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 3:53pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Maynman: All 4 historians wrote or referenced the existence of Jesus Is it the historical Iesus Chrestus or the historical one? |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by sonmvayina(m): 4:59pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: All this back and fort insult would have been avoided if you presented one person ..just one person who saw him and wrote about it...is it not sad, that the "son of God" would make an appearance and nobody saw him...? Even if they don't believe in him, what did they say about him. You can't tell me that all the people who are from the 5 leaves and two fish, no one deemed it necessary to write about him... All what we have are all stories written by anonymous authors. ... Put this argument to rest by providing just one article from somebody who actually saw him.. And you win the argument..technical knockout 1 Like |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 5:04pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
sonmvayina: This African traditional jew has come with his nonsense For you understanding, there are people who wrote about him but you won't believe. Which one will you believe? |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by sonmvayina(m): 5:17pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
You see, God already provided the Israelites with laws so that they live in peace..asper sin, he already provided a solution....confess and forsake I would forgive...and remember your sins no more...I don't think there is any where he ever said he was sending a "son" to come and change his laws and die for sins...No where. I still don't know where the Romans got that idea from.. But from the little I could gather, I discovered that the people called Christians/chrestisns where actually worshippers of Serapis....and Rome added their ideology at the back of the Jewish holy book to give it some credibility and for propaganda...so sad. They have succeeded in deceiving the world..... So so sad....to say the least.. |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by sonmvayina(m): 5:18pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Just post it here... I will believe he actually existed.... Then we can start discussing what he thought his followers. What is the name of the person who saw him and heard him talk... What did he say about him...no need to deflat |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 5:19pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
sonmvayina: His name is Balabu bulaba 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by sonmvayina(m): 5:21pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: I thought as much.. Just tell Maynman that no body actually saw him and you are not even sure if he existed or not, but you choose to believe..... He will have a better understanding of you... 1 Like |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 5:34pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
sonmvayina: When you hear of Muhammad, which source to knowing that person comes to mind? What about Confucuis? If someone wants to know about Jesus Christ (arguably the most influential man of all time), there's where to get to know him and secular historians prove he existed We are talking about a person that existed about 2000 years ago. How many books do you know was written that period. Besides, he was a religious figure, not a popular warrior or king that we can expect to see scores of writings that talked about him and he only walked around the Palestinian region You don't believe in the NT, but you want another source to give proofs of Jesus Christ and his activity Shame on you You and Maynment are twins 1 Like |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by sonmvayina(m): 5:43pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Looks like you are dumb.. How can somebody who raise the dead Fed thousand of people with 2 fish and 5 bread Walked on water Heal the sick And nobody wrote anything about all of these? Common man.... And on top of that, he is a son of God. God did not tell people, like he talked to Moses or Aaron....nobody knew... All we have are stories written 300+ years later... Noooo, something does not add up.. FYI God already gave the Israelites his laws. He never said anything like sending his son to earth...or did he?? |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 6:09pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
sonmvayina: So someone will pick up professional writing cos of just one man right? Even if there was, it's about 2000 years now U are very dumb Have you not read right from the garden of eden when he promised to send the SEED? Same promise to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, etc but the identity of that seed was a mystery The Bible foretold his birth as from a virgin and he was to have everlasting rulership and destroying God's enemies and bringing everlasting blessings to obedient mankind and also put to death to pay for transgressions And yes, the Bible mentions that it was to be a Son of God. You have not read Psalms 2. Have you? 1 Like |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 6:15pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Josephus deposition is a lie 1 Like |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 6:20pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
jaephoenix: MAYNMENT said Josephus deposition if for Judas the Galilean You say everything is a lie Atheista are really naive |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 6:32pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:These are from academic sources https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.cambridgescholars.com/resources/pdfs/978-1-5275-5527-3-sample.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiN_Jq7qqL-AhVJC-wKHRu6BtkQFnoECCsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3jFvOPGD5RXg0aUigDlJ1_ The above is a pdf. Read up if you can (which I doubt you will) https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/7437 Check this too. There are many sources but I chose those that are more credible |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by sonmvayina(m): 6:43pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: As you make your claim post the relevant quote form the Jewish scriptures so we can confirm... Psalm 2 is not a prophecy. It is a song written by David and given to the choirmaster to be sung during service. I don't see any jesus there....how did you pull that out? God is not a prophet, he can't prophesy about a seed. As the eternal creator of the universe, he was making his judgement.... The virgin birth you and Maxindhouse quote is about Isaiah's son who was a sign for King Ahaz....it was a bout a way that was coming. It was an assurance for the king that his kingdom will not be over run... So learn to read in context.. All these problem will not arrise. |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 6:45pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:1. I just prove to you the secular authors' posts were faked. 2. If Jesus was indeed a historical figure that even did wonders, raised from the dead etc, do you think there would be a dispute to his existence? Hitler, Washington, Gandhi all lived before us, but many books(not just one) , texts, articles were written about them without disputes. 3. The Bible is popular because Emperor Constantine of Rome slaughtered many non believers and people that refused christianity ,and imposed Christianity on many countries. It turned out they exported it to the Anglo Saxons(present day UK) who spread it to the US, which later became a world power. Thus christianity became more popular. If China(who is suspected to be the next world power) becomes powerful, christianity would be a minority. So just chill 4. Please how did the Bible give us the rights we enjoy today? |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 6:51pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:1. this is even worse than the other reply. 2. Did the name Jesus change from English to another language? The Spanish, Portuguese, Italian etc call him jesus, so this point is completely stupid. Obviously the point he made was lost on you. He said the name Jesus was not in any text many centuries ago, thus couldn’t have been in the Bible. 2. Actually many images of people or animals living more than 5000 years ago can be captured 1 Like |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 6:55pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Stupid source I hear someone say the current president is not Buhari but one Jubrin of Sudan How do I find the TRUTH? Is it by reading articles of those that claim it is not Buhari but Jubrin I am not surprised that you'll go and find such things just as Maynment went to find a book that talks about the activity of a group of people that lived long before Jesus came and worshiped one pagan god and he said those people were the Christians when he Mented brain won't tell him that Christians then had nothing to do with paganism or gods. What Jaephoenix, the ape doctor does not know is that Josephus was NEVER a Christian or Christian apologist. Some of what he wrote seems to have been altered a bit but he has given evidence that Jesus and John the Baptiser existed I won't be surprised if you say that Tacitus soeticus and Pliny works were also lies Atheists think backwards One said Jesus is not existent only cos of difference in name spelling Another complained about his color as seen in books Maynment is just attacking every evidence even contradicting himself He said Josephus only acknowledge Judas You say Josephus was lying The second link you dropped, even the title of the article will tell you that it is a negative one |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 6:57pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Again his point flies over your head. Hes trying to tell you that why were the 2 Joshua distinguished in the Bible? There are in fact 3 Josephs in the Bible, but none was changed. Why was this Joshua/Yeshua changed to Jesus? 2 Likes |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by sonmvayina(m): 6:58pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah...we know religion is about faith, not facts. I am in no way trying to stop you from believing what you believe. I can't take your faith away from you... But just realise that it is about faith, Not facts... |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 6:59pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Their history was covered copiously in different history books. Those books can be found in many historical institutions. Is it the same as Jesus? No. His history was found ONLY in the bible. The Qoran, which copied from the Bible, took his history too |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 7:01pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Many events in the Bible have been found to be fiction. From the great flood, talking snakes and donkeys, virgin birth, resurrection etc |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:02pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
jaephoenix: What else do you expect of a man, not a warrior or king but someone known for preaching n powerful works and only walked around Palestine? Use your brain bri |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:03pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
sonmvayina: End of case That makes you gullible if you're a religious person |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 7:03pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:They all came from the Testimonium Flavionum, which was found to be falsified 1 Like |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:04pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Show us where Yeshua or Joshua was changed to Jesus The book you dismiss are mere myth is the same book you're asking foolish questions |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 7:05pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:The original Tacitus deposition mentioned about Christians(not Jesus) in a sentence. 1 Like |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:07pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
jaephoenix: 1. Your problem 2. How is the same name spelt and pronounced in the 3 main languages of Nigeria? Note that Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic was the main language of the people (Jews and Romans) at that time. Write Jesus name in those 3 languages and see which one is changed or not 3. Show us one |
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