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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by justwise(m): 10:25pm On Apr 11, 2023
sukkot:
brother, even medical doctors are not well paid in the UK talk less of security. Let me break it down for you. They pay about 15 pounds per hour if you are in London and cheaper outside. Let's say you can do 60 hours a week that is 900 pounds a week or let's say 3600 a month . It appeArs like a lot if you convert to naira. But you live in London and don't spend naira. Ok so you are at a higher tax bracket which is 40 percent so you take home like 2700 a month. It's London so your rent is like say 1000 if say you are single and no family and managing a small one bedroom. So that 1700 left. Council tax is like 150. You left with 1550. Let's say your utilities 300 a month you have 1250. Transport lets say 200. That's 1050. Phone and internet lets say 100. That's 950. Feeding[b] let's say[/b] 400. That's 550 left. Clothing and haircut and miscellaneous like eating out and sending to naija etc and buying naija foods let's say like 300 a month. You have 250 left. Young guy you want trip woman to movies or go pub to drink pints of beer etc let's say 200 a month. You have 50 pounds left. Now this is calculation for single man. If you have wife and children may GOD help you is your cAse lol

just checked the hourly rate in london. its 12 not 15. so i was being generous

Lets say that you don't know what you are talking about.

You claimed to be a British citizen and you don't know jack about the UK and Dr's salary even with the help of google search engine?

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by Sweetvie: 10:43pm On Apr 11, 2023
pansophist:


Na wa O.

Must Nigerians move to the UK? That place is so saturated and looks like it's dying. No offence. London looks like a patched middle East, and white British people seems like a minority there.

Mainland European countries like Austria, Netherlands, Germany, or the Nordics don't have these issues of hunger or homelessness. If one can learn the language, it's the true obodo oyibo.

[/b]Actually I had an illusion about moving to the UK while I was still struggling with language issues, but after I visited that place, I now appreciated where I was coming from, and said to myself, tufiakwa. Not UK[b].
Lol.
Seriously, I still don't understand why Nigerians are so reluctant to learn new language and just pack themselves to UK.

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by 1stGenAmerican(f): 10:44pm On Apr 11, 2023
cococandy:
Thank you.

Because it’s like every time someone in Nigeria is calculating pay for others abroad it’s for $10/hr as if that’s the only earning potential possible. meanwhile I’m here surrounded by Nigerian professionals none of whom makes anything less than 6 figures.

But no they are all doing menial jobs. Anyway what if they are?


Don’t you love way they try counting everyone’s pockets and calculating their ‘bills’, making it seem like everyone stays with nothing after all is paid? They throw $10/hr around like an insult when the teenagers working part time in the grocery stores make more than that.

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by Nobody: 10:48pm On Apr 11, 2023
Japa enthusiast will flood this place now to explain why selling your kidneys and liver to Japa abroad is worth it
They'll even tell you that you can sell your children if the money isn't complete 😂. And why you're doing it because of your children. LoL

Imagine #20M
Me I'll gavey#20M,and I'll. Take am go. UK go buy Msc certificate all becus we want to japa yii na

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by 1stGenAmerican(f): 10:48pm On Apr 11, 2023
sukkot:
that's good stuff that you had transferable skills. Is it IT ? but brother even at that the amount you put up there is struggle territory for a family of 4 in America. 6500 a month for a family of four ? When you pay your rent, health insurance, car payment, insurance, feeding for 4, school fees, clothing for 4 etc etc in a month that money is finished. I know single people in America who eArn that amount and say they are struggling, talk less of a family of 4. You can't even be in New York or California ,rent would eat all that money up. I wouldn't give up 700,000 per month in Nigeria to go eArn 6500 a month in America. See brother you got bamboozled by the false equivalent. The false equivalent is the exchange rAte but in America you spend dollars and not naira and for example when you convert what you pay per month for rent in America, it would be what you pay for annual rent in naija. The false equivalent . Never compare salaries between two country because the cost of living is never the same between two country

You must be talking about another America because there are no ‘school fees’ unless the parent chooses private school—public school here is free and kids can eat free lunch. Your calculations about ‘bills’ are also way off and if you know single people in this country earning $6500 who are struggling, they either have a drug or gambling problem, they’re living way beyond their means, they’re lying, or they don’t exist.

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:53pm On Apr 11, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


You must be talking about another America because there are no ‘school fees’ unless the parent chooses private school—public school here is free and kids can eat free lunch. Your calculations about ‘bills’ are also way off and if you know single people in this country earning $6500 who are struggling, they either have a drug or gambling problem, are living way beyond their means, are lying, or don’t exist.

Sent a DM. I would love to get your opinion on something.

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by Aboguede(m): 11:09pm On Apr 11, 2023
I enjoy the drama but but at the bolded, I think u are trying to be too smart grin

Don't jump into a river if u don't know it's depth shocked

Las Las, u are just doing free work sha so just underline it JOKES and don't try to be faster than ur shadows shocked

Salam


sukkot:
i totally get you bro and understand that we are just bouncing information off each other , no ill intentions . But brother on a side note what is life without takeouts ? Lol. Make we try enjoy this life small oooo. But I totally get your analysis. Cut your coat according to your size. Also it appears you have the type of skill where you could have done remote work from naija or setup your own outfit. It's not always about looking for a job if you get laid off but hey ? Ultimately it's your life and if you are happy with your decision then have at it.

[b]But I hope you are aware that the whole global economy is scheming to get awAy from the dollar and put America in the dark and they know America will not go down without a fight so Russia is sorrounding America as we speak with submarine nukes as well as overhead propelled nukes. America is about to fall. World war 3. China and Russia and Iran and India are forming that coalition that is planning to nuke America. Watch the news closely.
[/b]

Don't be caught napping
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by vickydevoka(m): 11:09pm On Apr 11, 2023
julybaba:
One of the easiest ways to get scammed right now is through Japa packages. That "little" money you don't value , some people are smart enough to swindle you of it.

You go get sense last last.
As a single no scam. If you spend 5 million, b4 u finish I go get x2. But currently no care work like that for students. Na security I just go enter. I no get time
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by vickydevoka(m): 11:11pm On Apr 11, 2023
MrBrownJay1:
i refuse to believe that it costs 20M to move to the UK... from Nigeria.
More than currently with a family. More bros don spend pass23 million
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by Nobody: 11:27pm On Apr 11, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


You must be talking about another America because there are no ‘school fees’ unless the parent chooses private school—public school here is free and kids can eat free lunch. Your calculations about ‘bills’ are also way off and if you know single people in this country earning $6500 who are struggling, they either have a drug or gambling problem, they’re living way beyond their means, they’re lying, or they don’t exist.

Is there anywhere where basic education isn't free? Even in Nigeria aa poor as it is, university education is free. I went to school for free
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 11:46pm On Apr 11, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


You must be talking about another America because there are no ‘school fees’ unless the parent chooses private school—public school here is free and kids can eat free lunch. Your calculations about ‘bills’ are also way off and if you know single people in this country earning $6500 who are struggling, they either have a drug or gambling problem, they’re living way beyond their means, they’re lying, or they don’t exist.
this woman you get liver oooo. So you would send your children to public school in America and allow them to eat public school food ? Public school na gang bsnging territory be dat oooo. My calculation on spending his salary was based on private school. No caring responsible parent should send their children to American public school
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 11:52pm On Apr 11, 2023
armyofone:



Maybe the reason your friends here are probably tightening the policy.
yeah they need to tighten every policy tightenable . Is that even a Word cheesy

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by armyofone(m): 11:53pm On Apr 11, 2023
sukkot:
this woman you get liver oooo. So you would send your children to public school in America and allow them to eat public school food ? Public school na gang bsnging territory be dat oooo. My calculation on spending his salary was based on private school. No caring responsible parent should send their children to American public school

Public schools - sigh
But if you live in a good community or neighborhoods the public schools are good. Yet, you need good money to buy house in such areas for your child to attend the school.
I visited a private school with a friend looking to start kid in preschool then elementary...20k per year. Oh Lord! It must be golden school.
They live in a great place but looking for private school.
I just want to go live on a tree grin
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 11:58pm On Apr 11, 2023
pansophist:


One thing I do every time I watch some YouTube videos about the UK, the comments sections seems very bitter, and the Brits complaining that the UK is completely lost.

They mostly bemoan the declining economical opportunities, swamp of immigrants, and how the demography of the UK has changed forever, and for the worse. Many decided to move, while mamy accepted their fate.

Do I feel sorry for them? Of course not. They lay their bed, let them lie on it. But on a Frank note, I won't like to see more Arab and Asian faces in the street of Lagos, than black faces, after all, Nigeria did not colonize anyone.
to be honest with you I would love Lagos to be multicultural . It would be totally cool. Like South Africa. Rainbow coalition. It would make it flourish more. Money pouring in from different countries and the place would be more developed because we know certain cultures like to keep certain standards so maybe that influence would rub off. Imagine eating authentic fish and chips on the streets of Lagos sold to you by a british white mAn ? Totally cool mate lol

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 12:04am On Apr 12, 2023
armyofone:


Public schools - sigh
But if you live in a good community or neighborhoods the public schools are good. Yet, you need good money to buy house in such areas for your child to attend the school.
I visited a private school with a friend looking to start kid in preschool then elementary...20k per year. Oh Lord! It must be golden school.
They live in a great place but looking for private school.
I just want to go live on a tree grin
yeah trust me even if you live in a great place which would be mostly white your kid is still in much danger of being racially terrorised . I would opt for a multicultural private school. Living on top of a tree is totally mind blowing. No care in the world just you and the elements grin hopefully the tree has fruits lol

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 12:28am On Apr 12, 2023
chiself:


That "do it for your kid" is a myth. You are not rich, you children will be going to the local schools. Their classmate are going to be sons and daughters of Jamaica gangster, Mogadishu warlords, Albania pick pocketers grin
The teachers are scared to come to class, so their education will suffer. You don't have £250 a month for extra tuition for your kids.
Let's hope they don't join a gang and settle their differences with stabbing.

You are doing it for yourself!
grin grin grin grin very well said
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by studyless123: 12:31am On Apr 12, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


You must be talking about another America because there are no ‘school fees’ unless the parent chooses private school—public school here is free and kids can eat free lunch. Your calculations about ‘bills’ are also way off and if you know single people in this country earning $6500 who are struggling, they either have a drug or gambling problem, they’re living way beyond their means, they’re lying, or they don’t exist.

I don't know why I find this extremely funny. Where is basic education not free in the world?

The other part also has some assumptions when I was working, my rent was 4k plus excluding utilities, I don't do drugs or gamble or live above my means. I know very many single people who will struggle on 7k+.

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by studyless123: 12:33am On Apr 12, 2023
sukkot:
this woman you get liver oooo. So you would send your children to public school in America and allow them to eat public school food ? Public school na gang bsnging territory be dat oooo. My calculation on spending his salary was based on private school. No caring responsible parent should send their children to American public school

I don't think one can afford private school based on those figures. Many private schools goes for about 2k and more there's one I know of that costs 5k a month.
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 12:38am On Apr 12, 2023
studyless123:


I don't think one can afford private school based on those figures. Many private schools goes for about 2k and more there's one I know of that costs 5k a month.
ahh well homeschooling is an option lol. No way I am dropping my children in American public school. Precious cargo
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 12:40am On Apr 12, 2023
pansophist:
I'm I dreaming or this is real?

I've seen people relocate abroad over and over again without spending this much. What exactly eats this 20M? Jesus. shocked
visa, ticket, school fees, immunization etc etc
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by studyless123: 12:43am On Apr 12, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


Some Nigerians are too hung up on a title and look down on what they call ‘menial jobs’—pride has no value when pockets are empty.There’s dignity in labor. You mentioned a cleaner—do you know any bank managers in Nigeria that’ll ever earn in 20 years what these NYC garbage collectors earned in one year? Some of these guys earned $300,000 in one year doing a ‘menial job’ that many of you guys would consider beneath you. Even their average salaries pay more than some desk jobs.




94 NYC Garbage Collectors Earn $300,000 Each In 2021, Net $100,000 In OT Pay

By Dane Enerio

Around 94 employees of New York's Department of Sanitation earned more than $100,000 in overtime pay last year
The total overtime pay for the department jumped from $151 million in 2020 to $283 million last year
The increase was attributed to staff shortages, delays in hiring replacements and heavy snowfall last year
Job seekers in New York may want to start considering applying for the city's Department of Sanitation (DSNY) after it was revealed that nearly 100 of the department's garbage collectors and supervisors netted six-digit overtime pays last year, pushing some annual salaries close to $300,000, according to payroll records.

Around 94 DSNY employees earned more than $100,00 in overtime pay last year, compared to the two sanitation workers who received six figures during the fiscal year 2020 and the zero workers in the year before that, The New York Post reported.



I agree with you. There's dignity in labor and no one should be undignified as a result of menial jobs.
However that report is an outliner. Besides 100k earnings is worth about 35k in NY when adjusted for cost of living. These are important considerations when dishing out figures.

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 12:44am On Apr 12, 2023
armyofone:


Maybe Agent ?
I'm confused why such big money ? Definitely not the embassy.
yep agent fees too. why did i always think you were a woman ? i just saw the M now. pardon my ignorance bro cheesy cheesy
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by studyless123: 12:46am On Apr 12, 2023
sukkot:
ahh well homeschooling is an option lol. No way I am dropping my children in American public school. Precious cargo

The UK has far better standard. For some of my nieces and nephews, they returned to Nigeria for their secondary education and came back for university education.

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 12:53am On Apr 12, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


Some Nigerians are too hung up on a title and look down on what they call ‘menial jobs’—pride has no value when pockets are empty.There’s dignity in labor. You mentioned a cleaner—do you know any bank managers in Nigeria that’ll ever earn in 20 years what these NYC garbage collectors earned in one year? Some of these guys earned $300,000 in one year doing a ‘menial job’ that many of you guys would consider beneath you. Even their average salaries pay more than some desk jobs.




94 NYC Garbage Collectors Earn $300,000 Each In 2021, Net $100,000 In OT Pay

By Dane Enerio

Around 94 employees of New York's Department of Sanitation earned more than $100,000 in overtime pay last year
The total overtime pay for the department jumped from $151 million in 2020 to $283 million last year
The increase was attributed to staff shortages, delays in hiring replacements and heavy snowfall last year
Job seekers in New York may want to start considering applying for the city's Department of Sanitation (DSNY) after it was revealed that nearly 100 of the department's garbage collectors and supervisors netted six-digit overtime pays last year, pushing some annual salaries close to $300,000, according to payroll records.

Around 94 DSNY employees earned more than $100,00 in overtime pay last year, compared to the two sanitation workers who received six figures during the fiscal year 2020 and the zero workers in the year before that, The New York Post reported.


76k as a garbage collector is not a good salary in new york where apartments rent for like 3000 a month
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by GloriousGbola: 12:56am On Apr 12, 2023
sukkot:
yep agent fees too. why did i always think you were a woman ? i just saw the M now. pardon my ignorance bro cheesy cheesy

Eh? Armyofone (hauwa) do join alphabet geng?
The last time i checked hauwa na woman or at least birthing body. cheesy
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 1:02am On Apr 12, 2023
studyless123:


The UK has far better standard. For some of my nieces and nephews, they returned to Nigeria for their secondary education and came back for university education.
relatively but its still a cesspool of jamaican wannabe thugs and knife carriers
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by sukkot: 1:05am On Apr 12, 2023
GloriousGbola:


Eh? Armyofone (hauwa) do join alphabet geng?
The last time i checked hauwa na woman or at least birthing body. cheesy

okay so am confused now cheesy , I guess the M is to throw us off. So you saying armyofone is a woman ?
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by Gerrard59(m): 1:17am On Apr 12, 2023
xevove2061:



Point of correction, you will earn almost double of what you will earn in America in Switzerland. Yes, read that again, you cannot compare an average annual salary of 45k dollars a year in the states to 80kCHF in switzerland. The difference is obviously clear! Secondly, alot of brits are in switzerland working and they prefer to be in switzerland working than in britain. Italians who find jobs and want to move from Italy to switzerland or from the italian part to the german partcan do so with great ease and not have any single issue. Infact, if they are able to work for 5years they should be able to get a C permit which is the level before the Swisspassport.

The American economy is way more diverse than the Swiss and welcomes everybody regardless of race or ethnicity. America is better off for Nigerians than Switzerland. There are more economic sectors and opportunities for the above-intelligent Nigerian to grab in the US than in Switzerland. The way you simplify working in Switzerland, one would think it is that easy. This is a country that states that all jobs must be advertised to Swiss first, then EU/ECA citizens before foreigners. The same country has only 5000 intra-company transfer visas available each year. Once attained, that is the end. Also, foreign students are not eligible to work within the first six months of resumption and have only six months as post-school visa.

Please re-read the response by Sharon to me. Our discussion was about Nigerians not native Europeans.

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by armyofone(m): 1:17am On Apr 12, 2023
GloriousGbola:


Eh? Armyofone (hauwa) do join alphabet geng?
The last time i checked hauwa na woman or at least birthing body. cheesy


Leave me alone na GloriousGbola grin
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by armyofone(m): 1:19am On Apr 12, 2023
sukkot:
okay so am confused now cheesy , I guess the M is to throw us off. So you saying armyofone is a woman ?

Sukkot, Sukkot, Sukkot, how many times did i call you grin
Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by Gerrard59(m): 1:27am On Apr 12, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


You must be talking about another America because there are no ‘school fees’ unless the parent chooses private school—public school here is free and kids can eat free lunch. Your calculations about ‘bills’ are also way off and if you know single people in this country earning $6500 who are struggling, they either have a drug or gambling problem, they’re living way beyond their means, they’re lying, or they don’t exist.

Isn't it better to send one's children to a relatively good school in Nigeria and top it off with private tutoring than send to an American public high school (except the elite ones)?

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Re: How Do Families Pay Tens Of Millions To Japa Without Getting Ulcers by Gerrard59(m): 1:40am On Apr 12, 2023
sukkot:
relatively but its still a cesspool of jamaican wannabe thugs and knife carriers

It must really be tough for recent black African migrants trying to raise children in the UK.

I don't envy them sha.

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