spillo1:

You keep typing one nonsense after another. First was saying woody worked under Ferguson as CEO ,to City managers were not successful before Pep now you don't even know the actual CEO of City. This guy is something else.

CEOs are inconsequential to the football on the field and claiming lack of football people is why Man utd has been unsuccessful is false. Many top clubs have non football people as CEO and didn't stop them from success

spillo1:

You really shouldn't be here crying over something that doesn't concern you.

You wey dey cry how does it affect or concern you

raumdeuter:


What's the difference between the profile of Woodward and Gill which made one successful and one fail

Dayo calm down, David Gill was Chief Executive when Fergie won his second CL and PL titles. Woodward only became C.E.O when Gill left. His time at United was a disaster cos he wasn't a football person, he is a finance guy and was more concern with generating money for United. United is appointing a proper football C.E.O, our hope is that Berrada's appointment will bring positive changes and success on the pitch..

TrebleChamp:
Dayo calm down, David Gill was Chief Executive when Fergie won his second CL and PL titles. Woodward only became C.E.O when Gill left. His time at United was a disaster cos he wasn't a football person, he is a finance guy and was more concern with generating money for United. United is appointing a proper football C.E.O, our hope is that Berrada's appointment will bring positive changes and success on the pitch..

If Woodward failed because he was not a football person

Was Gill a football person or what's the difference between Gill and Woodward profiles

Born and raised in Reading, Berkshire,[2] Gill studied at the University of Birmingham (BCom Industrial, Economic and Business Studies, 1978), becoming a Chartered Accountant with Price Waterhouse in 1981. After a two-year spell in San Francisco, he left the firm in 1986 to join The BOC Group in its corporate finance department, and then Avis Rent a Car System in 1990. At Avis, he was responsible for the disposal of the European leasing business to GE Capital for US$1 billion in August 1992. Subsequently, he was finance director at Proudfoot PLC, the worldwide management consulting business, then quoted on the London Stock Exchange, and then at First Choice Holidays PLC, the third largest UK tour operator, before joining Manchester United F.C. in 1997.

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Woodward began working for PricewaterhouseCoopers in the accounting and tax advisory department in 1993, before joining J.P. Morgan & Co. as an investment banker in the mergers and acquisitions department in 1999.[1]

In 2005, Woodward advised Malcolm Glazer and the Glazer family during its successful takeover of Manchester United. The Glazer family then recruited Woodward to join the club in a "financial planning" role.

AdisaOwala:


It is still the issue o

Okay o

Why did Cameroon qualify?

Onana does not deserve happiness 😀

At least, he dey chop bench. Win win.

odizeey:
Why did Cameroon qualify?

Onana does not deserve happiness 😀

Coach wey get sense he bench the werey. If na that ten bald he go still use aaam. Useless coach.

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Rigobert Song should better start Onana against Nigeria or else him and Eto'o would have to refund the money spent to charter a private jet back to Man Utd.

odizeey:
Why did Cameroon qualify?

Onana does not deserve happiness 😀

Don’t worry. He will be on our side.

raumdeuter:


If Woodward failed because he was not a football person

Was Gill a football person or what's the difference between Gill and Woodward profiles


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What exactly is your point Dayo? The Glazers where here when Fergie won a second CL and 4 EPL titles with David Gill as C.E.O. Woodward came in and messed the Club up so bad, United became a laughing stock among Football Clubs. The Glazers crime was not sacking him early on, but they didn't because he was bring in money for the Club. Clubs like Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, ManCity and co will not reward rubbish players like Trashford with an improved contract extension, because they have people with good football knowledge as Chief Executive and across their board.

Englishisamust:


Coach wey get sense he bench the werey. If na that ten bald he go still use aaam. Useless coach.

Maybe them get affair

Leyqute:


Don’t worry. He will be on our side.

Nigeria?

raumdeuter:


Everyone overpays for players. Its when the players don't deliver that it becomes an issue

80% of Pep signings under the same Berrada were considered overpaid until they delivered. Did anyone ever think Dias, Laporte, Stones, Ake, Grealish, Bernado Mendy etc were worth that amount paid for them? But when they deliver no one cares how much was paid

20M for a flop is overpayment, 100m for a hit is underpayment. In hindsight, 100m for Salah would have been a bargain while 15m for Antony would have been an overpayment

Signing players that are not good enough are also signs of usage. Do you think Man Utd intentionally went to sign bad players? All the bad signings were doing well and some were snatched from their destination clubs

If Alexis and Magure had gone to City do you think we will be calling them bad signings?

In most cases the coach point to the profile of players they want and the board gets it for him. You think ETH did not ask specifically for Onana and Antony and the board just dropped them on his laps?

The problem is not the CEO, A CEO in most cases knows next to nothing about technical football beyond being a fan

Perez is the greatest CEO currently, and left to him, he wants to flood every position with galacticos. Perez bought David Beckham a right winger when he already had Figo and told the coach to fit him somewhere. Beckham a RW ended laying CM, DM and even RB for Madrid. that is a CEO in action

Was this Berrada not there when Man City was buying Wilfred Bony, Nastasic, Savic, Fernando and many players who flopped

The bolded is spot on. But still the role of a football person as C.E.O is very important to on the pitch success of a football club...

odizeey:

Nigeria?

Yes na. He’s in the Cameroonian team but he’ll be pro Nigeria.

TrebleChamp:
What exactly is your point Dayo? The Glazers where here when Fergie won a second CL and 4 EPL titles with David Gill as C.E.O. Woodward came in and messed the Club up so bad, United became a laughing stock among Football Clubs. The Glazers crime was not sacking him early on, but they didn't because he was bring in money for the Club. Clubs like Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, ManCity and co will not reward rubbish players like Trashford with an improved contract extension, because they have people with good football knowledge as Chief Executive and across their board.

My point is that having a football person as CEO makes no difference
All the CEOs I showed you of successful clubs non was a football person

When you were successful, David Gill was CEO and he was not a football person anymore than Woodward, their profiles were almost exact copies of each other. Yet one failed one succeeded

Finally CEO makes no difference the main person is the manager

raumdeuter:


My point is that having a football person as CEO makes no difference
All the CEOs I showed you of successful clubs non was a football person

When you were successful, David Gill was CEO and he was not a football person anymore than Woodward, their profiles were almost exact copies of each other. Yet one failed one succeeded

Finally CEO makes no difference the main person is the manager

The C.E.O make a lot of difference, Bayern Munich board will never have giving Martial or Rashford an improved contract extensive with their shitty performance over the years. A football C.E.O will not have kept Phil Jones at the Club for years collecting salary while doing nothing. A football C.E.O will not override a Manager's decision to sell unproductive players (e.g Mourinho's attempt to sell Martial was blocked by Woodward). Yes the Manager is the most integral part of the on pitch success of a Football Club, but a football C.E.O's is nearly as important too.

Leyqute:


Yes na. He’s in the Cameroonian team but he’ll be pro Nigeria.

That's if he'll even see shirt. Hehehe

TrebleChamp:
The C.E.O make a lot of difference, Bayern Munich board will never have giving Martial or Rashford an improved contract extensive with their shitty performance over the years. A football C.E.O will not have kept Phil Jones at the Club for years collecting salary while doing nothing. A football C.E.O will not override a Manager's decision to sell unproductive players (e.g Mourinho's attempt to sell Martial was blocked by Woodward). Yes the Manager is the most integral part of the on pitch success of a Football Club, but a football C.E.O's is nearly as important too.

Give an example of a successful football CEO so we can see their football profile

Is Gill a Football CEO and what makes him one and Woodward not

raumdeuter:


Give an example of a successful football CEO so we can see their football profile

Is Gill a Football CEO and what makes him one and Woodward not

He just pointed out what a well-managed club will not do and you're still asking him questions...

Don't be too fixated on the role of the CEO here, what those against the management have hammered on is the whole management structure from CEO, DOF, Chief scout, CFO etc...I want INEOS to fix all of that so that they'll be no excuse going forward because if na spending, we dey spend but just not rightly...

patrickmuf:
He just pointed out what a well-managed club will not do and you're still asking him questions...

Don't be too fixated on the role of the CEO here, what those against the management have hammered on is the whole management structure from CEO, DOF, Chief scout, CFO etc...I want INEOS to fix all of that so that they'll be no excuse going forward because if na spending, we dey spend but just not rightly...

Mine is simple what makes Gill a football CEO and not Woodward given their profile. If football CEO is the difference between successful club and an unsuccessful one

@Ramdeuter

I went through the last page and was shocked at the absolute nonsense I was met with. I usually don't give that tag to posts on here which represents the ideas of others. But how else can one describe some of the atrocious things you posted.

Like how can a sane person say this. "Is Omar Berrada more of a football person than Ed Woodward?"

You then went ahead and said other nonsense.

I don't know why only meet takes like this one Nairaland these days tbh.

raumdeuter:


Give an example of a successful football CEO so we can see their football profile

Is Gill a Football CEO and what makes him one and Woodward not

Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Florentino Peres is an experience Football President/C.E.O, Ferran Soriano is another experience Football C.E.O and so many more, you don't have to be an ex footballer to be a football C.E.O. Another example of a bad C.E.O is Josep Maria Bartomeu. The Clubs i mentioned earlier are doing well because they have people on their board who understand the football side of running a football club. United have not had that since Woodward became C.E.O, and Murtough and co became board members. Woodward was a terrible C.E.O as per player transfer deals and contract extension deals, so for Arnord. Let us see what Berrada brings to the table.

TrebleChamp:
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Florentino Peres is an experience Football President/C.E.O, Ferran Soriano is another experience Football C.E.O and so many more, you don't have to be an ex footballer to be a football C.E.O. Another example of a bad C.E.O is Josep Maria Bartomeu. The Clubs i mentioned earlier are doing well because they have people on their board who understand the football side of running a football club. United have not had that since Woodward became C.E.O, and Murtough and co became board members. Woodward was a terrible C.E.O as per player transfer deals and contract extension deals, so for Arnord. Let us see what Berrada brings to the table.

Rummenigge is not Bayern CEO, he has since left and been succeeded by a football person Oliver Kahn who was sacked and now a Banker was hired

The current Bayern CEO is a Banker
What makes Gill a football CEO and not Woodward given their background
What makes one a "football CEO"
Below is the profile a football CEO Ferran Soriano

Soriano has held a number of positions in companies in a variety of industries, such as consumer products, telecommunications and entertainment, and has held senior positions at The Mac Group, Reckitt Benckiser, and Cluster Consulting, a management consulting firm he co-founded in 1993.

How are all the football people on the board of Barcelona doing currently, when every window they barely pass through and are on blackmailing players to contract deals

ChristoBam:
@Ramdeuter

I went through the last page and was shocked at the absolute nonsense I was met with. I usually don't give that tag to posts on here which represents the ideas of others. But how else can one describe some of the atrocious things you posted.

Like how can a sane person say this. "Is Omar Berrada more of a football person than Ed Woodward?"
You then went ahead and said other nonsense.
I don't know why only meet takes like this one Nairaland these days tbh.

How can a sane person quote a question and not post the answer.

Its simple what makes Omar Berrada a football CEO and not Woodward
What makes David Gill a football CEO and not Ed Woodward given both backgrounds
There are many successful clubs with non footballing CEOs

I know how this will end, AFter Omar does not offer any improvement, the end it will be its not just the CEO its Glazer. Glazer must go like say the money Glazer is spending will be blue and the money Saudi is spending will be yellow

One of the first major transfers under Woodward was Fellaini.

Man was available for a certain amount on a release clause but we somehow didn't make the signing until deadline day. Meaning we had to pay extra millions.

That type of uselessness when it comes to transfer negotiation became a norm until today.

raumdeuter:


The current Bayern CEO is a Banker
What makes Gill a football CEO and not Woodward given their background

You just don't want to accept that Woodward messed up United ba? David Gill will never have signed Antony for €100m, or offer Phil Jones new contract for years, or offer unproductive player improved contract, or sell United players for cheap and, or allow the Stadium and Club facilities to deteriorate and so on. This are what makes David Gill a successful football C.E.O.

raumdeuter:


How can a sane person quote a question and not post the answer.

Its simple what makes Omar Berrada a football CEO and not Woodward
What makes David Gill a football CEO and not Ed Woodward given both backgrounds
There are many successful clubs with non footballing CEOs

I know how this will end, AFter Omar does not offer any improvement, the end it will be its not just the CEO its Glazer. Glazer must go like say the money Glazer is spending will be blue and the money Saudi is spending will be yellow

All I see is ramblings from a bitter opposition fan. More of hoping things will fail rather than banking on a past event that can point to this.

Woodward is an established failure as a football CEO. It'll take an high level of delusion to even argue against this.

You don't need a solid background in football to be a good CEO. Can we appoint someone without it and actually be able to turn things around? Definitely!

But it's definitely far better to appoint someone with a good history of doing what is needed at the club. We are at a point we can take Zero risks. Everything has to work.

Woodward is not a football CEO and Omar is based on evidence. One tried it out and failed massively. The other has worked in similar capacity and is a success. It's not rocket science.

TrebleChamp:
You just don't want to accept that Woodward messed up United ba? David Gill will never have signed Antony for €100m, or offer Phil Jones new contract for years, or offer unproductive player improved contract, or sell United players for cheap and, or allow the Stadium and Club facilities to deteriorate and so on. This are what makes David Gill a successful football C.E.O.

What in their pre Man Utd profile makes David Gill a football CEO and not Ed Woodward?

Both were accountants from non football background

Before Woodward Man Utd was signing Veron, Bebe and David Bellion. You think if it wasnt Ferguson working magic with whatever he had those misjudgments wont show

I will tell you if Woodward also was CEO under Ferguson he would have been a successful football CEO

ChristoBam:

All I see is ramblings from a bitter opposition fan. More of hoping things will fail rather than banking on a past event that can point to this.

Woodward is an established failure as a football CEO. It'll take an high level of delusion to even argue against this.

You don't need a solid background in football to be a good CEO. Can we appoint someone without it and actually be able to turn things around? Definitely!

But it's definitely far better to appoint someone with a good history of doing what is needed at the club. We are at a point we can take Zero risks. Everything has to work.

Woodward is not a football CEO and Omar is based on evidence. One tried it out and failed massively. The other has worked in similar capacity and is a success. It's not rocket science.

What makes Omar a football CEO and not Woodward?

TrebleChamp:
What exactly is your point Dayo? The Glazers where here when Fergie won a second CL and 4 EPL titles with David Gill as C.E.O. Woodward came in and messed the Club up so bad, United became a laughing stock among Football Clubs. The Glazers crime was not sacking him early on, but they didn't because he was bring in money for the Club. Clubs like Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, ManCity and co will not reward rubbish players like Trashford with an improved contract extension, because they have people with good football knowledge as Chief Executive and across their board.

Maybe na coach dey extend contract too
I don't even know what the fvckin problem is with united but wetin I know na say no be how dem suppose dey run proper club be that

raumdeuter:


What makes Omar a football CEO and not Woodward?

Haha I know your type.

Read the last paragraph in which I answered this and still asked the same question. Discussions with you is all about not conceding. Lmao.