ifeness:

Yes there is a flying monster hanging in the sky watching everything you do. Who created this monster?

peterphd:

How is homosexuality illogical? Homosexuality exists in other animal species and you can look it up.if you can debate homosexuality, the thread is available.

LordAdam:

The dude sounds like an Agnostic. Although his view is quite unique, he subscribes to the premise of creationism, just not by a being deemed to be revered as "God". It's a mixed bag, but that's an Agnostic signature right there.

Ahem, about intelligent design. It's very compelling on both the macro and micro level of observation that the intricacies are too complex to be ascribed to mere chance. But that's just it, nothing more than a statement of logic. A simple 'what if', pulls the curtain on this surprising conclusion.

Because on both ends of the scale, life and the universe or universes (if the multi-verse theory deserves recognition) are (as far as we know) self-sustaining. Where did Intelligent design start, and when did it end? Evidently, the universe is still expanding, new galaxies are forming as old ones are being obliterated at a bewildering rate at incomprehensible locations. Even at that, new species, strains and adaptations on both the macro- and microscopic scale are evident on life forms on this planet, who then can rule out the possibility of life elsewhere in contrasting living conditions. What if life as we know it is not same somewhere else, do we ascribe it to a deft being or simply a process that seems to hinge on luck and chance.

The only critter of sanity is postulating that unless there's justifiable proof, demonstrative rather than implicating: we stick to what we know. Some evolution theories are frankly hilarious or dead-beat ludicrous, but the religious accounts are more absurd.

Intelligent design is compelling, but it does not prove the existence of God, if anything it only explicates the need for us to understand our immediate environment because there's a lot to learn.

LordAdam:

The dude sounds like an Agnostic. Although his view is quite unique, he subscribes to the premise of creationism, just not by a being deemed to be revered as "God". It's a mixed bag, but that's an Agnostic signature right there.

Ahem, about intelligent design. It's very compelling on both the macro and micro level of observation that the intricacies are too complex to be ascribed to mere chance. But that's just it, nothing more than a statement of logic. A simple 'what if', pulls the curtain on this surprising conclusion.

Because on both ends of the scale, life and the universe or universes (if the multi-verse theory deserves recognition) are (as far as we know) self-sustaining. Where did Intelligent design start, and when did it end? Evidently, the universe is still expanding, new galaxies are forming as old ones are being obliterated at a bewildering rate at incomprehensible locations. Even at that, new species, strains and adaptations on both the macro- and microscopic scale are evident on life forms on this planet, who then can rule out the possibility of life elsewhere in contrasting living conditions. What if life as we know it is not same somewhere else, do we ascribe it to a deft being or simply a process that seems to hinge on luck and chance.

The only critter of sanity is postulating that unless there's justifiable proof, demonstrative rather than implicating: we stick to what we know. Some evolution theories are frankly hilarious or dead-beat ludicrous, but the religious accounts are more absurd.

Intelligent design is compelling, but it does not prove the existence of God, if anything it only explicates the need for us to understand our immediate environment because there's a lot to learn.

oluafolabi:

The argument for design is a very easy one to counter.

1) If there is an intelligent designer, who designed the designer?

2) How did he come to be?

3) Can you ascribe his existence to mere chance too?

I.cud.kill:

Homosexuality is completely illogical
Name dat specie

I.cud.kill:

Homosexuality is completely illogical
Name dat specie

karkwix: "The white man is very clever. He came quietly and peaceably with his religion. We were amused at his foolishness and allowed him to stay. Now he has won our brothers, and our clan can no longer act like one. He has put a knife on the things that held us together and we have fallen apart." - Chinua Achebe

oluafolabi: 1) If there is an intelligent designer, who designed
the designer?
2) How did he come to be?
3) Can you ascribe his existence to mere chance
too?

incrediblestev: do you have the pdf.....you should read Murdock's Christ conspiracy, an ever bigger eye opener....i could send it to you if you want...

incrediblestev: imagine what the man had to face just for being a non-believer, religion is very dangerous, especially when dealing with the very organized ones like the Catholics and Islam with very powerful institutions and political power.
They can choose to make things difficult for you in places that matter, from seeking a job, having a career or even having a relationship.

It goes beyond believing in a God that needs to serviced through organized worship and gathering, it seeks to control or regulate people and their thought process, its major aim is power not neccessarily a God.

That is why it is very dangerous to argue openly against it especially as a young person with very and promising future looking ahead. I respect people's choice of religion even when I don't agree with their beliefs. I only argue or debate with ignorant notions they sometimes put up about their religion being the only way to a fulfilled life and eternal life..... I once told a Christian friend who kept disturbing me about eternal life, I asked, "what is the use of an eternal life that according to your bible is synonymous with slavery in heaven, as I won't be entitled to free will, thought process or even allowed to make a mistake and learn from it, who wants to live the boring life of perfection, definitely not me.

mazaje:

There is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger, my brother you are on the wrong path. . You will rot in allah's hell unless you believe in him and accept his religion which is islam. . .say what ever you want but you will definitely remember this post some day. . .

ifeness:

Just like killing your son on the cross to appease yourself is illogical. That is a crime against humanity

Pastor Olu T:

If only u realized what u did to ur wife? And I dont think she truly believes anyways, whichever way there is doom ahead!

I.cud.kill:

Homosexuality is completely illogical
Name dat specie

ifeness:

The designer appeared from nothing. It was a miracle and you must believe it without asking question or else, hell fire!

emmerks: Pretense will do you no good. In the words of Augustine of Hippo, one of the essence of human existence is to have happines in our everyday life. If u decide to pretend, u could be made happy but u will never be happy within.

However, according to Paschal Blaise, in his work about the existence of God, he noted that; if we say God doesn't exist, and decide not to do good or believe in, and at d end we discover He exist, we will be at a lose.

Nonetheless, 'if we say God exit and decide to do good and believe in Him, we have nothing to lose at the end if we really later discover He exist.

The truth is nobody has ever been able to Logically proof that God exist, and nobody has also been able to Logically and conclusively proof He doesn't exist.

Science itself hasn't been able to prove He doesn't exist. All it has been able to deduce is that 'there's a higher being that control nature and the course of things'. Who tells the Sun and moon how to shift duty?

From the above, it is important for u to realize that there's a higher being.

In conclusion, it is not possible for u to deny the existence of something that does not exist. In the latin phrase "Cogito ergo sum" summarizes all that has been said above.

peterphd: @incrediblestev

Please, I am interested in your pdf books.please share at Peterphdadamu@gmail.com. Thanks

cold:
I deliberately left out religion from my comment. My question is who exactly is this 'someone' you so desperately want to credit with the world we live in. Stop prevaricating and tell me who or what this thing is. And we might just as well begin another debate from whence he came. It's an argument of consistent regression. You only cling tenaciously to this notion of intelligent design because it is some sort of consolation. The 'God gap theory'. If you can't explain it God did it

oluafolabi:

The argument for design is a very easy one to counter.

1) If there is an intelligent designer, who designed the designer?

2) How did he come to be?

3) Can you ascribe his existence to mere chance too?

ifeness:

True talk from a wise man. Achebe like other wise men of a Africa will surely be missed.