elected: Nigerian men are killing their imported wives in USA. African men in general are the products of the women, both by birth and upbringing(home education). My point is, black ppl are the same. Those killings in the USA is as a result of the women right abuse by the imported wives there. We all need to work on ourselves and stop trying to emulate just the bad side of everything. An average white woman is always unhappy as no man wants to get close to her, because woman right palava. Of what use are we living without happiness, that's why God created the woman as a companion. Meanwhile,Arab women suffer more violence than African women.

...Exactly the destructive 'African man' bulls**t i was talking about..

..Murder is now justfied because of the 'women right abuse by the imported wives there' according to my 'sane' black brother...smh what an eyesore!!

After the feminists on nairaland got bursted by tallesty1 for hiding behind the mask of equality to push their agenda, they started hissing.

THIS FILM IS GETTING RATHER INTERESTING

Yea I agree with you, girls of these days lacks respect. I am really SMH for all the ladies more especially all these immature girls on Nairaland. Please some one should help me. How can I post on Nairaland for my post to get to front page?

bukatyne: Nice write up but the writer is mixing up been submissive to been subordinate

I had a teacher who always said "when a handshake extends to the elbow, it becomes a fight".
let me give u guys one simple but overlooked fact about human nature, NO MAN/WOMAN IS EVER SATISFIED. which means if a person wants something and they get it, they begin to think they can do better.

the feminist movement began with demands for equal social and economic rights and if you ask me, that demand has been met (basically). but like i said, they now think they can do better.

Men are superior because nature says so, anything other than that alters the balance of nature.

The current game plan of feminists is to emasculate men, they say a man is supposed to help his wife in the kitchen or else he is considered old fashioned and crude.
They say a man should help do laundry and some cleaning cos its sexy...... , trust me, there is nothing sexy about a man with a mop.
They say no man should hit a woman,...... okay i have nothing to counter that except if maybe i say real men dont hit women, real men hit bitches.

If it were natural for women to be superior, why do men still approach women for dates? why do men take the blame when there is chaos in a family? why is it that the worst thing on this planet apart from a bad woman, is a broke and lazy man? why is the heir to every throne including family inheritance the first boy even if he has elder sisters? I will tell you why, it is because MEN HANDLE BULL SH*T BETTER, its because are wired to tolerate nonsense and to stay calm in the face of adversity.

The woman is there to SUPPORT. see how i highlighted the word support. that should be every womans guiding word in any relationship with a man. any woman that thinks she should be equals with her any relationship is only limiting the mans potential and laying the foundation for an unhappy future. infact men of destiny should steer clear of such women.

The one true solution to all these lies in the hands of the men. am saying men should be men and stop apologizing. take the lead, take control, be good to your woman but never compromise on discipline with her. and finally, at all cost, AVOID LAZYNESS.

cococandy:
at least on the family level, many women are
matching men penny for penny everything that
goes into the wedding preparation. So that point
is moot

This is a boldface lie and you know it, no need to argue on it.
Penny for penny indeed, in Nigeria or in India? You're reaching, and you even said many ...easy oo.

About that protest over bride-price payment, how far na?

funny. Do you know how many fathers insist on
collecting bride price for their daughters? If you
think the will of a daughter can automatically
superceed that of her father,you're not being
real. So blame the daughter for the sins of her
father? Yea right.

No one is blaming anyone... I used the bride-price payment to establish the flaw regarding equality and going by your comment, it's clear you agree that equality regarding marriage is already flawed at the beginning.

you do know that after the exchange of gifts,the
bride is required by my own culture to take with
her gifts to the man's family too. Has she
bought him then? Be serious J.

I struggled to understand what you meant here...but if you call it gifts, is the bride-price/list a gift or necessary payment?

Anyway, I think we've dealt on bride-price enough.

so since men are not more than women,therefore
women must be more than men. . Just read that
issue up. It's already over flogged. Women aren't
more than men either. Which is what I meant
earlier BTW.
Was typing fast. Anyway are you stylishly
endorsing promiscuity in men? Are you even
remotely saying it is understandable?

Putting words where they aren't is what you're doing now.
I only disproved your logic that the higher the number of promiscuous men, the higher the number of promiscuous women...which is mathematically impossible. See the previous explanation on it.

I'm also not stylishly endorsing anything, unless you're stylishly seeing things that aren't there.

I'm against competitiveness in marriage. It has
no place in marriage.
Unless the two people are competing for the
award of who's more loving and caring then I
endorse

Good to know.

pfft

You agree then... one situation led to the other, and you know which did.

conjectures. Did you do a research to verify this
claim? .

Did you do a research to verify this claim of yours below as well?

cococandy:
at least on the family level,many women are
matching men penny for penny everything that
goes into the wedding preparation.

@ cococandy, please answer these questions and deal with it...I want to see what you have to say.

crackhaus:
Do women vote?
Are women allowed to hold offices in government
parastatals?
Do women become doctors?
Are women getting educated and earning
degrees?
Are there female pastors and scholars?
Do women walk the streets freely and drive cars?
Are there women in virtually every corner heading
organizations?

If your answer is Yes to all of those questions, I
ask you then 'what exactly is the feminist agenda
that is yet to be fulfilled?'
What exactly are feminists fighting for that hasn't
already been taken care of?
In what other situation has equality not being
achieved?

Why is it that women in the middle-east who are
required to cover up head to toe inside the blazing
heat don't talk about equality or feminism?
In some of these countries, women are not
allowed to drive even, why are they not
complaining?

So I ask again, what else is remaining as far as
Africa is concerned that hasn't been dealt with
regarding equality?

ireneidiva:
Do a research and get proper facts before you type. Who said the feminist movement was started by lesbians

Lesbians or not.

Feminism was started by bitter people just like APC.

That's why femisnists are always failures in Life. They hardly attain success like submissive good hearted women. They live with regrets daily because they have adopted a wrong mindset to life. Their quest to manipulate and subdue men has subdued success in them. Some of them smile outside but cry inside and behind closed doors everyday. A wicked heart is the worst thing that can happen to either a man or woman..

Some people here can lie o

okparaugo:

Lesbians or not.

Feminism was started by bitter people just like APC.

That's why femisnists are always failures in Life. They hardly attain success like submissive good hearted women. They live with regrets daily because they have adopted a wrong mindset to life. Their quest to manipulate and subdue men has subdued success in them. Some of them smile outside but cry inside and behind closed doors everyday. A wicked heart is the worst thing that can happen to either a man or woman..

Fallacy. Do you guys even know what feminisim is? Wicked heart? Nairaland kids are getting irritating.

ireneidiva:
Fallacy. Do you guys even know what feminisim is? Wicked heart? Nairaland kids are getting irritating.

what is feminism? Don't tell me it stands for gender equality cos that issue has been sorted out and women are now enjoying thesame rights as men e.g education, occupation, vote etc

You just said what i have in mind

greatgod2012: I'm tired of seeing everything that has to do with women being related to feminism!

I was actually enjoying your write up until i got to the "The Current game plan..."part, i'm afraid i think your argument is kind of biased

GangnamStyle: I had a teacher who always said "when a handshake extends to the elbow, it becomes a fight".
let me give u guys one simple but overlooked fact about human nature, NO MAN/WOMAN IS EVER SATISFIED. which means if a person wants something and they get it, they begin to think they can do better.

the feminist movement began with demands for equal social and economic rights and if you ask me, that demand has been met (basically). but like i said, they now think they can do better.

Men are superior because nature says so, anything other than that alters the balance of nature.

The current game plan of feminists is to emasculate men, they say a man is supposed to help his wife in the kitchen or else he is considered old fashioned and crude.
They say a man should help do laundry and some cleaning cos its sexy...... , trust me, there is nothing sexy about a man with a mop.
They say no man should hit a woman,...... okay i have nothing to counter that except if maybe i say real men dont hit women, real men hit bitches.

If it were natural for women to be superior, why do men still approach women for dates? why do men take the blame when there is chaos in a family? why is it that the worst thing on this planet apart from a bad woman, is a broke and lazy man? why is the heir to every throne including family inheritance the first boy even if he has elder sisters? I will tell you why, it is because MEN HANDLE BULL SH*T BETTER, its because are wired to tolerate nonsense and to stay calm in the face of adversity.

The woman is there to SUPPORT. see how i highlighted the word support. that should be every womans guiding word in any relationship with a man. any woman that thinks she should be equals with her any relationship is only limiting the mans potential and laying the foundation for an unhappy future. infact men of destiny should steer clear of such women.

The one true solution to all these lies in the hands of the men. am saying men should be men and stop apologizing. take the lead, take control, be good to your woman but never compromise on discipline with her. and finally, at all cost, AVOID LAZYNESS.

More knowledge...more evil...more chaos...



Welcome to the new world !!

demand and supply will always determine the balance of power.
It simply boils down to how replaceable you are. Whether man or woman, If you can be replaced easily with an equal or better person then your partner holds the power in the relationship.

Unfortunately for women, on average they are more replaceable than men at the moment.

buggaboo: The market forces of demand and supply will always determine the balance of power.
It simply boils down to how replaceable you are. Whether man or woman, If you can be replaced easily with an equal or better person then your partner holds the power in the relationship.

Unfortunately for women, on average they are more replaceable than men at the moment.

ireneidiva:
Fallacy. Do you guys even know what feminisim is? Wicked heart? Nairaland kids are getting irritating.

See person way dey call person kid. Can you maintain a relationship you feminist ? Champions of divorce and single motherhood...

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Vivipop: I was actually enjoying your write up until i got to the "The Current game plan..."part, i'm afraid i think your argument is kind of biased

Sweetheart my argument is not kind of biased, it is biased. I want all the men reading this to step up and stop making excuses such as "we are equals so its ok if she handles the bills", "my wife earn more than me so its ok to be a stay at home dad", "am already old so its ok if i dont work out and keep fit".
Every man has a duty to himself and his loved ones to be the best he can be at all times, anything less is not acceptable.

Nowadays you hear men say women no longer show respect but guess what, the respect never dissapeared, nothing changed except the men, the men changed. We gave in to all these feminist crap we see in the media and on the internet on how to handle women.

The only way feminism will stop affecting relationships and marriages is if the men take control stop being pu**ies and start acting like men with actual balls.

You ladies already have pu**ies, you dont expect me to believe you want to spend the rest of your life with another pu**y.

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Vivipop: I was actually enjoying your write up until i got to the "The Current game plan..."part, i'm afraid i think your argument is kind of biased

Sweetheart my argument is not kind of biased, it is biased. I want all the men reading this to step up and stop making excuses such as "we are equals so its ok if she handles the bills", "my wife earn more than me so its ok to be a stay at home dad", "am already old so its ok if i dont work out and keep fit".
Every man has a duty to himself and his loved ones to be the best he can be at all times, anything less is not acceptable.

Nowadays you hear men say women no longer show respect but guess what, the respect never dissapeared, nothing changed except the men, the men changed. We gave in to all these feminist crap we see in the media and on the internet on how to handle women.

The only way feminism will stop affecting relationships and marriages is if the men take control stop being pu**ies and start acting like men with actual balls.

You ladies already have pu**ies, you dont expect me to believe you want to spend the rest of your life with another pu**y.

Vivipop: I was actually enjoying your write up until i got to the "The Current game plan..."part, i'm afraid i think your argument is kind of biased

Sweetheart my argument is not kind of biased, it is biased. I want all the men reading this to step up and stop making excuses such as "we are equals so its ok if she handles the bills", "my wife earn more than me so its ok to be a stay at home dad", "am already old so its ok if i dont work out and keep fit".
Every man has a duty to himself and his loved ones to be the best he can be at all times, anything less is not acceptable.

Nowadays you hear men say women no longer show respect but guess what, the respect never dissapeared, nothing changed except the men, the men changed. We gave in to all these feminist crap we see in the media and on the internet on how to handle women.

The only way feminism will stop affecting relationships and marriages is if the men take control stop being pu**ies and start acting like men with actual balls.

You ladies already have pu**ies, you dont expect me to believe you want to spend the rest of your life with another pu**y.

Feminism.

A dirty word in some circles. When I hear the word, I think of fiery black women with dreadlocks or white women in badly fitting suits. Don’t ask me where these images come from; I don’t know. I do want to know: what’s all the fuss about?

I am a Nigerian woman. I am educated. I hold a job that pays me the same as my male colleagues. I voted in the last election. I can drive. I can own property… Now that I think about it, what exactly does being female forbid me from?

I can’t be out by myself late at night. Common sense. I could be robbed and/or raped. But that isn’t feminism’s war. That’s a function of security. A guy would be vulnerable too. Well, being female puts you at a disadvantage in the corporate world, some say. You can’t be a top-level executive. And they have stats to prove it. I’ll get back to that in a bit.

There are societal norms about how I should interact in society as a woman. But I think that those norms are shaped by the family I grew up in. I was told I was intelligent. Not relative to a boy. Intelligent in my right. The world was my oyster, the sky my limit, my life was charmed. My future was placed before me in pragmatic terms. I could be a career woman like my mother, keep a store close to home like both my grandmothers or be a housewife like many of my cousins. Each was a valid option and growing up, I was exposed to the pros and cons of each.

And this is the thing. A woman should have choices. We may not always agree with those choices (to stay with an abusive husband, to never marry, to take up a job, to become a housewife, to drop out of school) but they’re hers.

I was taught to respect men, to honour the man I would eventually marry. I like to think that my future husband was taught to respect women, like my brother was taught, like my sons will be. But I was also taught to pay for my drink. To be content with what I had. To earn my money without selling my dignity.

Society didn’t teach me this. Family did.

Yesterday, I took a male friend out to dinner. I called the waitress over. I requested the menu. I ordered. And when we were done, I requested the bill. When she got to our table, the waitress made to give it to him. I stretched out my hand to take it. She ignored me, and still pushed it to him. He smiled and handed it to me. The look on her face as I counted out the money from my wallet was priceless. Was I offended? No. Amused, more like. And frankly, I considered it too small to hold a grudge. I don’t blame society, I understand that it’s a function of her family and upbringing.

And then, there are bars/restaurants/clubs who refuse entry to unaccompanied women. On one hand, I find it amusing that a public establishment would seek to make moral choices for its patrons. On the other hand, I would boycott such an establishment. If you don’t want my custom, why would I force it on you? My own money? But I also think that this is a petty battle, and one I wouldn’t waste effort on.

What battles would I be interested in? Poverty alleviation. I hear of families that send only their sons to school because they think their daughters could do no better than to marry well. But often, these families can’t afford to send everyone and so they have to make a choice the best they know how. But what if they could afford to send them both? Would they still refuse? I could be wrong, but I don’t think so. And so our battle should be getting them across the poverty line. I know a mother who runs a small kiosk to support her family. Getting a bank loan to expand her business would be difficult. But that’s not because she’s female. Her husband is a vulcanizer (Nigerian term for a person who fixes tyres), and I daresay getting a loan would be difficult for him as well. It’s not really a gender problem, but one of class distinction.

Gender equality battles aren’t complete if we don’t fight for men’s rights, as well. Does this sound odd?

Back to the corporate arena. I overheard female colleagues complain that we aren’t well represented in our company’s leadership. They insist that D & I should be brought to bear. I differ. Leadership should be given to the most capable, not shared between the genders. If I want to be manager (as a male or a female), I have to work harder and longer than my peers to develop the right competencies faster. That’s easier when I’m unencumbered by family commitments. However, if after getting those competencies, I was turned down and the job given to a less competent male, then I would cry foul.

If I have a family, it gets harder. Some jobs are inherently incompatible with raising a family. With a family, I simply will not have enough time to develop those competencies faster than my peers. As a parent, I have a responsibility to raise my child. I can’t balance this with working long hours unless I have a very supportive husband. Let’s say he supports me 100% and he’s willing to take responsibility for our child. If he’s a house-husband, this is easy. But house-husbands aren’t common. Men have not been wired by their families to be house-husbands. So he has a job. Will his job let him close at 3.30 to pick our child from school? Will his job allow him take the afternoon off to take our child to hospital? Or his school’s soccer game? No. Women get those breaks in some companies, men hardly ever. And so this is what I think should be feminism’s cause. Flexible working hours for both sexes, so that each spouse can choose to support the other. Not just women, but men too. My husband should get paternity leave as long as mine so that if I choose to return to work a week postpartum, he can stay home to care for our infant. Amen?

There is the aside that even with these perks, some men would not support their wives’ ambitions. A shame, but that’s all it is. Society (or a movement) cannot force a man to support his wife, it’s a personal choice. The same way it’s a wife’s personal choice to support her husband.

But don’t hand me a promotion because it’s the politically correct thing to do. It’s an insult to my intelligence, and tells me I wouldn’t have been good enough otherwise.

Jamean:

Bros 'a man can cheat and be hailed for it, a woman should also cheat and not be crucified for it' has everything to do with equality o.

Now this is where the pro-equalists and undercover feminists get it wrong.
Why should a virtuous woman, a woman of high morals be fighting to get equal footing in something as mundane and immoral as 'promiscuity'?

Doesn't this tell you that these people championing the cause just want to compete with men on every level including the negative?
Is that what feminism and equality is about?

The instruction of 'thou shall not commit adultery' in christianity is a general one o. It didn't say that of the man is a lesser evil o. (you just dey make me dey shout,lol)

It would be better if you didn't bring religion into this, but if that's the way you want to go...maybe you can enlighten me about the practise of polygyny versus polyandry in the Bible.

Which of these was accepted and not out of the ordinary in the Bible:
A man with multiple women or a woman with multiple men?
I hope you see where I'm going with this.

Okay let's see it from another perspective;
We are Africans, Christianity was never ours...it was introduced to us.
Traditionally and in almost all African societies, a man marrying more than one wife was the norm. Can you say the same about a woman marrying more than one husband?

Whichever way you choose to look at it, be it from the Christian perspective, or the traditional/cultural one, or from liberal societal and more contemporary perspective, a woman has and can never be on equal footing when it comes to promiscuity.
Besides this is not what equality or feminism is really about, it's the self-absorbed-I-am-a-human-and-can-choose-what-I-do-with-my-body feminist that has twisted the meaning.

I'll always use the illustration of the adulterous woman that was almost stoned to death before she was brought to Jesus for judgement. My own moral of the story is; If adultery is forgivable for a man, it is also forgivable for a woman. If adultery is unheard of for a woman, it is also unhearded of for a man.

African men should try to be men more in the things that really makes you man, African women should try harder to be women both as God has ordained. Make una dwell with understanding and somethings will become trivial.

What are the things that make a man a man, enlighten us.

Women: A demonic snake like creature that bleeds a whole week out of every month yet never die

Let me ask you people something, have you ever seen a woman brain/heart surgeon? Yet even a woman nurse want to be paid same as a surgeon because they are women.
Have you ever seen a woman oil rig worker e.g off the coast of nigeria, or deep in the north sea, or deep in the alaskan oil fields. Not a single woman, yet even if she is a pump attendant, she wants to be paid like those working on the rigs because she is a woman.
Majority of the riskiest jobs in the world are manned by men e.g Military, Oil rig workers, Underground miners, Nuclear plant operators, construction workers, Refinery workers e.t.c therefore men deserve better benefits, but no, women want equal or even better benefits even though majority of them work in offices and other very safe jobs. Mind you even the small salaries and benefits men get are spend on women again. Women are the most selfish tight handed creatures on earth, she can be earning a million naira a month, but try asking her to dash you one kobo, or buy you recharge card, or take you to a fancy resturant dinner, or buy you a BB phone e.t.c thats the moment she will frown face and dismiss you

dear women, its your greediness that will kill you

okparaugo:

See person way dey call person kid. Can you maintain a relationship you feminist ? Champions of divorce and single motherhood...

Crap.

TribalEAST: what is feminism? Don't tell me it stands for gender equality cos that issue has been sorted out and women are now enjoying thesame rights as men e.g education, occupation, vote etc

Google it.

ireneidiva:
Google it.

you want me to google for the lies you guys have filled the internet with, abi?

Why the labelling of women as 'traditional' or 'modern?

Why can't our women-folk be respectful and submissive.

Being submissive however is not a derogrative word.