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Re: .... by Nctrice(m): 5:15pm On Oct 17, 2014
OboloMAN:


In as much as the rivers people would resist another Ikwerre Governor if WIKE emerges PDP flag bearer...
But we will Totally Vote for Jonathan.
The South South....is Totally GEJ wen it comes to National issues.

Tell Him!
Re: .... by Omimah: 5:17pm On Oct 17, 2014
I have no problem in Buhari picking Okorocha or any South Easterner as his Running Mate, but politics being a game of number will make me advise him and APC not to. The South East is bent on voting for Jonathan of PDP. This ordinarilly makes the VP slot worthless, because the sloth itself is supposed to bring more votes from the geo-political zone.

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Re: .... by Nobody: 5:19pm On Oct 17, 2014
Nctrice:


Tell Him!
It is like you don't know the electoral populations of each of the 36 States. Bayelsa votes is not even up to that od Alimoso LG, the Whole of SS votes is just a little higher than that of Kano State, combine with Borno State and the SS votes is overshadowed. However, the plan is to further encroach into Rivers/Edo and Delta States.

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Re: .... by Nobody: 5:20pm On Oct 17, 2014
Omimah:
I have no problem in Buhari picking Okorocha or any South Easterner as his Running Mate, but politics being a game of number will make him advise him and APC not to. The South East is bent on voting for Jonathan of PDP. This ordinarilly makes the VP slot worthless, because the sloth itself is supposed to bring more votes from the geo-political zone.
The SE has always been voting incumbents even against their Son, unlike the North and SW

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Re: .... by BlackTechnology: 5:20pm On Oct 17, 2014
Fielding a SW as VP will only confirm that Yorubas have Born To Rule mentality which will stir up anti SW sentiments j
Re: .... by aljharem2: 5:21pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
Thank You. But sadly, Falae is in DPA, he is the DPA Chairman. I am sure he will agree to fly the VP ticket of APC if approached. But the APC have Aregbesola and Raji Fashola to work with if they must pick from SW(Though I prefer Aregbe)

Forget aregbesola. Dead on arrival

Fashola will do but better as president not VP to a 74 yrs old ex head of state.

Olu falaye will get ALL SW vote whether PDP or APC

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Re: .... by OboloMAN: 5:24pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
That is a ridiculous claim my friend. Jonathan may win Rivers(not disputing) but He will not win by more than 70%. In fact the Wike issue may reduce his vote the more. As for EDO state PDP won't have an easy ride there, especially with a Fashola or Oshio on the ticket. APC will get a few vote from Delta but again PDP will win. however, the Plan is to encroach into Jonathan's territory while securing APC's North and Protecting SW. We all know SE, CRS, AKS and Bayelsa is PDP

My broda ... judging from experience the south will go for Jonathan and will vote based on regional intrest irrespective of party.
we may have different views in the state level but for presidency its 100% jonathan..

I don't see the APC Giving the V.P slot to the South... and a Muslim/Muslim ticket via GMB/FASHOLA will not sell.

There is also the power of incumbency.

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Re: .... by Nobody: 5:25pm On Oct 17, 2014
aljharem2:


Forget aregbesola. Dead on arrival

Fashola will do but better as president not VP to a 74 yrs old ex head of state.

Olu falaye will get ALL SW vote whether PDP or APC
Guy Aregbesola is the "Awo" in making. He is a complete grassroot man and can connect with the yoruba populace. As for Falae flying PDP ticket, that won't happen for several reasons, Falae is not the regular politician, he has Standards which he haven't compromised over 2 decades and PDP aren't smart to field a Falae, they prefer doofoo Sambo and Clown Jonathan.

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Re: .... by BlackTechnology: 5:26pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
It is like you don't know the electoral populations of each of the 36 States. Bayelsa votes is not even up to that od Alimoso LG, the Whole of SS votes is just a little higher than that of Kano State, combine with Borno State and the SS votes is overshadowed. However, the plan is to further encroach into Rivers/Edo and Delta States.



The problem with you is that you don't think deeply


The North and West have the highest number of non indigenes due to lopsided allocation of FG resources during the military era.


So not everyone living in Kano is an indigene of kano

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Re: .... by Cuche: 5:29pm On Oct 17, 2014
Gentlemen, all these permutations will amount to something assuming the votes will count.

As long as the body language of GEJ and Mama Peace shows they'll to continue beyond 2015, GEJ will not abdicate the ASO throne for anybody. As it is, even if the opposition pairs Buhari(Moslem) with Pope(Christian) and election comes today, PDP will still win and issue usual statement 'go to courts if you're not satisfied with the outcome'.
GMB, Atiku, APC should know better and contribute to nation building some other way

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Re: .... by Nobody: 5:30pm On Oct 17, 2014
OboloMAN:


My broda ... judging from experience the south will go for Jonathan and will vote based on regional intrest irrespective of party.
we may have different views in the state level but for presidency its 100% jonathan..

I don't see the APC Giving the V.P slot to the South... and a Muslim/Muslim ticket via GMB/FASHOLA will not sell.

There is also the power of incumbency.

Which experience are you judging from? First, SS is relative and it is not of any particular tribe. The Binis and Itsekiris for instance are more closer to the Yorubas than the Ijaws or Ikwerres. Even in Rivers State, tribal sentiment is not really a deciding factor. Like I said, GEJ will win the majority vote of SS but will not enjoy super-majority in Edo(especially) and Rivers State.
As for incumbency, wakeup bro, APC and PDP will attempt to rig, but you can only rig in your stronghold or a neutral ground. You can't rig in opposition stronghold. Incumbents lose election, even Akala of Oyo State in 2011 and the PDP in Edo in 2007.

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Re: .... by tit(f): 5:30pm On Oct 17, 2014
Barcanista,
you conveniently analyzed 2007 twice and forgot all about 2011.
Well, i shall do the honor.
Buhari tried your gambit: A Yoruba vice-presidential candidate and he failed woefully in the SW.
Gbadamasi Buhari chose Tunde Bakare as his running mate to rapturous applause from the likes of you.
Even the litte known Ribadu even got some votes than Buhari in the SW.
What does this tell us?
That Buhari is very unpopular outside his core constituency.

Even the NURTW and market women of the SW solidly reject having a murderer (the extra-judical execution of a bartholomew Owoh and co),
a thief (millions missing from NNPC in 1978
and a liar (Abacha did not steal)
as president!
And so shall it be in 2015!

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Re: .... by Canme4u(m): 5:32pm On Oct 17, 2014
Omimah:
I have no problem in Buhari picking Okorocha or any South Easterner as his Running Mate, but politics being a game of number will make him advise him and APC not to. The South East is bent on voting for Jonathan of PDP. This ordinarilly makes the VP slot worthless, because the sloth itself is supposed to bring more votes from the geo-political zone.

You nail it bro.
Re: .... by Nobody: 5:32pm On Oct 17, 2014
BlackTechnology:




The problem with you is that you don't think deeply


The North and West have the highest number of non indigenes due to lopsided allocation of FG resources during the military era.


So not everyone living in Kano is an indigene of kano
What is the population of non-indigen in Kano state? And do you follow the voting pattern in Nigeria past elections? You Jonathanians gotta asked Obj why he made a pact with AD Govs and AD in 2003.

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Re: .... by Omimah: 5:33pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
The SE has always been voting incumbents even against their Son, unlike the North and SW
I don't support APC VP slot going to the South West. The continued membership of Fashola, Aregbesola, Tinubu, Akande, etc and the feat they achieved in that part of the country are enough for Yoruba people, believed to be sophisticated, to vote for APC. I will rather have the APC give the VP slot to the South South, Amaechi in particular. This will help in breaking the votes of Jonathan in the South South, his strongesthold.
Re: .... by tit(f): 5:34pm On Oct 17, 2014
The SW wants the VP post because they forsee a Yaradua situation in 2017.
if Buhari kpai in two years time, we would be back to square zero.
The north would be foolish to present Buhari as presidential candidate.

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Re: .... by Nobody: 5:36pm On Oct 17, 2014
tit:
Barcanista,
you conveniently analyzed 2007 twice and forgot all about 2011.
Well, i shall do the honor.
Buhari tried your gambit: A Yoruba vice-presidential candidate and he failed woefully in the SW.
Gbadamasi Buhari chose Tunde Bakare as his running mate to rapturous applause from the likes of you.
Even the litte known Ribadu even got some votes than Buhari in the SW.
What does this tell us?
That Buhari is very unpopular outside his core constituency.

Even the NURTW and market women of the SW solidly reject having a murderer (the extra-judical execution of a bartholomew Owoh and co),
a thief (millions missing from NNPC in 1978
and a liar (Abacha did not steal)
as president!
And so shall it be in 2015!
In 2011, Bakare isn't a politician, his choice was politically naive of the CPC. Also CPC was a 6month old party, they had splitted from ANPP. AC was the in-thing in SW as at 2011-Thanks to Fashola performance. The ACN werent serious in 2011 in the Presidential Contest but they wanted to remain in National Politics. Despite that Bakare had no political value no political structure, CPC still had few votes.
We are not talking of just CPC or just ACN here, we are talking about formidable APC, with political value, integrity, incumbent governors and money.

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Re: .... by Nobody: 5:38pm On Oct 17, 2014
Omimah:

I don't support APC VP slot going to the South West. The continued membership of Fashola, Aregbesola, Tinubu, Akande, etc and the feat they achieved in that part of the country are enough for Yoruba people, believed to be sophisticated, to vote for APC. I will rather have the APC give the VP slot to the South South, Amaechi in particular. This will help in breaking the votes of Jonathan in the South South, his strongesthold.
Politics is a game of numbers. I don't really like tribal politics, but Jonathan and PDP introduced it, we must use it against them

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Re: .... by BlackTechnology: 5:39pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
What is the population of non-indigen in Kano state? And do you follow the voting pattern in Nigeria past elections? You Jonathanians gotta asked Obj why he made a pact with AD Govs and AD in 2003.


Do you know how many non indigenes that exist in the North and West


Son


There are in millions

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Re: .... by OboloMAN: 5:44pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
Which experience are you judging from? First, SS is relative and it is not of any particular tribe. The Binis and Itsekiris for instance are more closer to the Yorubas than the Ijaws or Ikwerres. Even in Rivers State, tribal sentiment is not really a deciding factor. Like I said, GEJ will win the majority vote of SS but will not enjoy super-majority in Edo(especially) and Rivers State.
As for incumbency, wakeup bro, APC and PDP will attempt to rig, but you can only rig in your stronghold or a neutral ground. You can't rig in opposition stronghold. Incumbents lose election, even Akala of Oyo State in 2011 and the PDP in Edo in 2007.

shocked
barcanista:
Which experience are you judging from? First, SS is relative and it is not of any particular tribe. The Binis and Itsekiris for instance are more closer to the Yorubas than the Ijaws or Ikwerres. Even in Rivers State, tribal sentiment is not really a deciding factor. Like I said, GEJ will win the majority vote of SS but will not enjoy super-majority in Edo(especially) and Rivers State.
As for incumbency, wakeup bro, APC and PDP will attempt to rig, but you can only rig in your stronghold or a neutral ground. You can't rig in opposition stronghold. Incumbents lose election, even Akala of Oyo State in 2011 and the PDP in Edo in 2007.
Re: .... by Nobody: 5:45pm On Oct 17, 2014
BlackTechnology:



Do you know how many non indigenes that exist in the North and West


Son


There are in millions

perhaps in majority? very funny. Abeg lets not go there

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Re: .... by Nctrice(m): 5:47pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
My friend the 1993 poll was not between Hausa and Yoruba but between the Military holding on to power at all cost and democratic struggle. In fact it was an Igboman in the Name of Arthur Nzeribe that went to court to stop the announcement of MKO as Winner, not the Hausa. As at then, Atiku Abubakar, Shehu Yar Adua and the PDM were members of Abiola's SDP
hahahahaaaa! Nzeribe went to Court indeed! You chose the part of history that favours your line of argument alone!
You can bring this all up when we have time to go back for our history classes! But for now, all we want to do is look forward to the future! February 2015 in the horizon! GEJ/Sambo till 2019!!! Hahahaaa!

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Re: .... by Nobody: 5:48pm On Oct 17, 2014
Nctrice:
hahahahaaaa! You chose the part of history that favours your line of agurmrnt
You brought the 1993 poll into this

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Re: .... by Nctrice(m): 5:53pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
You brought the 1993 poll into this
Bacanista look back, YOU brought up 1993 first!

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Re: .... by OboloMAN: 5:54pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
Which experience are you judging from? First, SS is relative and it is not of any particular tribe. The Binis and Itsekiris for instance are more closer to the Yorubas than the Ijaws or Ikwerres. Even in Rivers State, tribal sentiment is not really a deciding factor. Like I said, GEJ will win the majority vote of SS but will not enjoy super-majority in Edo(especially) and Rivers State.
As for incumbency, wakeup bro, APC and PDP will attempt to rig, but you can only rig in your stronghold or a neutral ground. You can't rig in opposition stronghold. Incumbents lose election, even Akala of Oyo State in 2011 and the PDP in Edo in 2007.

My Interests are in APC But for the presidency I will sure vote Jonathan.

Buhari is only popular among core Muslims.
And Christains who make up 70% of the west will vote along religious devide.

His Only problem would be the North.

And am sure his PDP generals will do a good work there.

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Re: .... by Nobody: 5:57pm On Oct 17, 2014
OboloMAN:


My Interests are in APC But for the presidency I will sure vote Jonathan.

[s]Buhari is only popular among core Muslims.[/s]
[s]And Christains who make up 70% of the west will vote along religious devide.[/s]

His Only problem would be the North.

And am sure his PDP generals will do a good work there.
I don't know where you get your figures from, but you need to sue the source for deception.
I supposed I am a core muslim, Tam David West is, Amaechi, Oshiomole, etal.

Well done boss

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Re: .... by Nobody: 6:03pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
In 1999 it was between Obj and Falae. Falae as AFenifere Chief was the Top Choice. Most of Obj's vote came from the North and the
South East and South South(Actually SS was heavily rigged)
. Obj was supported in the North because he preferred Shagari over Awolowo in 1979, same reason he is loathed by the Yorubas.
In 2003, it was majorly between Obj and Buhari. Obj had to make a Pact with AD to support him for President and they will be supported for Governor, NASS and co. AD openly campaigned for Obj's PDP in 2003(which also cost AD governors except the smart Tinubu). If not, Obj would have lost woefully in 2003

Barcanista!!! your hatred for the Igbos, I hope it won't cause cardiac arrest oh!

1. Yorubas always voted their son, yet they didn't vote for Pastor Tunde Bakare?

2. You said Gani Fawehinmi is very popular across the Niger and a Yoruba too.. please what is the result of 2003 election he contested? even Jim Nwobodo had more numbers than him!..

3. According to you, when PDP won both SE and SS convincingly, it was because SS was massively rigged while SE wasn't rigged

4. Until recently, all but 1 state in SS was in control of PDP!!! (Edo was won in court) please which region is any government in power AGIP??

5. Maybe you don't know, as at 2007 election, out of 5 states in SE, PDP only had control of 2, Enugu and Ebonyi, Imo and Abia went to PPA while Anambra was Apga... Why do people still call SE AGIP??

6. PDP was voted out in Anambra and Imo state despite their power of incumbency! have such happened in your region barcanista?

7. Before defection of late, how many member of the national assembly from SS were from the opposition and how many from SE?

8. Discuss politics but please put your hate for the Igbos aside. you cannot hate them and expect them to vote you in power

9. If GMB wants the Igbo vote, maybe he should this time try to campaign in Igbo states!! otherwise, Igbos will give 100% to GEJ

10. Ka chineke mezie okwu m

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Re: .... by Omimah: 6:05pm On Oct 17, 2014
barcanista:
Politics is a game of numbers. I don't really like tribal politics, but Jonathan and PDP introduced it, we must use it against them
It's obvious APC is going to send Jonathan packing. The crowd and jubilation at Eagle Square during Buhari's declaration are enough to convince any reasonable person. Since then there has been problem is the camp of PDP.

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Re: .... by Nobody: 6:08pm On Oct 17, 2014
i just confirmed that nairaland e warriors dnt have tv in their homes.are u people not worried about apc and pdp leaders visiting themselves for last past two weeks

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Re: .... by bakynes(m): 6:13pm On Oct 17, 2014
You people are just deceiving yourself. This is Africa Incumbent presidents don't loose elections either by votes or by crook. JONATHAN WILL WIN 2015. I voted him in 2011 but he disappointed me just like he disappointed my Yorubas and will not vote him in 2015. Until the body INEC is truly independent like it name implies Jonathan the incumbent will win. Abi no be president go release funds for election.

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Re: .... by Nobody: 6:16pm On Oct 17, 2014
I don't hate the Igbo
Barcanista!!! your hatred for the Igbos, I hope it won't cause cardiac arrest oh!


1. Bakare isn't a politician, CPC was NEW, AC was sweeping the guber level of SW and the AC didn't support the candidacy of CPC as the contested to remain relevant in National Politics. Hence, their choice for Ribadu and Adeola. CPC wasn't popular and had not political structure in SW in 2011.
1. Yorubas always voted their son, yet they didn't vote for Pastor Tunde Bakare?

2. Gani again ran under NCP, the party with little or no money and little or no structure. Beside, in politics, you make alliance with strong blocs to displace incumbents, coupled with the fact the the Yorubas queued behind Obj in 2003.

3. My friend I am talking of SS where I know that there was heavy rigging. Ojukwu lost in EVERY state in the SE in 2003 and 2007, so also Uzor Kalu in 2007

4. You are talking Nonsense. We are talking of Presidential you are talking Guber.

5. We are talking of Presidential poll. What concerns me with which party you vote as governor? even Kano voted CPC in Presidential and PDP in Guber.

6. As in 4 and 5

7. Rubbish

8. Keep your vote for Jonathan

9. GMB don't really "NEED" Igbo vote. We all know where the Igbo vote is heading

10. Whatever[/quote]
datolee:

Barcanista!!! your hatred for the Igbos, I hope it won't cause cardiac arrest oh!
1. Yorubas always voted their son, yet they didn't vote for Pastor Tunde Bakare?
2. You said Gani Fawehinmi is very popular across the Niger and a Yoruba too.. please what is the result of 2003 election he contested? even Jim Nwobodo had more numbers than him!..
3. According to you, when PDP won both SE and SS convincingly, it was because SS was massively rigged while SE wasn't rigged
4. Until recently, all but 1 state in SS was in control of PDP!!! (Edo was won in court) please which region is any government in power AGIP??
5. Maybe you don't know, as at 2007 election, out of 5 states in SE, PDP only had control of 2, Enugu and Ebonyi, Imo and Abia went to PPA while Anambra was Apga... Why do people still call SE AGIP??
6. PDP was voted out in Anambra and Imo state despite their power of incumbency! have such happened in your region barcanista?
7. Before defection of late, how many member of the national assembly from SS were from the opposition and how many from SE?
8. Discuss politics but please put your hate for the Igbos aside. you cannot hate them and expect them to vote you in power
9. If GMB wants the Igbo vote, maybe he should this time try to campaign in Igbo states!! otherwise, Igbos will give 100% to GEJ
10. Ka chineke mezie okwu m

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Re: .... by Nobody: 6:22pm On Oct 17, 2014
bakynes:
You people are just deceiving yourself. This is Africa Incumbent presidents don't loose elections either by votes or by crook. JONATHAN WILL WIN 2015. I voted him in 2011 but he disappointed me just like he disappointed my Yorubas and will not vote him in 2015. Until the body INEC is truly independent like it name implies Jonathan the incumbent will win. Abi no be president go release funds for election.
Very Ignorant dude
1. Ivory Coast Laurant Gbagbo lost to Allasane Quatarra in 2010

2. PRESIDENT Abdoulaye Wade, Senegal lost as Incumbent to Sali in 2012

3. Rupiah Bwezani Banda(Zambia) lost to Michael Sata in 2011

4. Joyce Banda (Malawi) lost heavily to Arthur Peter Mutharika in 2014. In fact, she came 3rd.

5. Goodluck Jonathan WILL lose to Muhammadu Buhari in 2015.

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