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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by mancheeutd(m): 7:23pm On Oct 19, 2014
ROSSIKE:


Don't mind these brainless idiotts, talking rubbish about ''what has he won etc etc''. As if it is one single player that wins a club trophies. So skill-less Beckham (anywhere belleh face) must be better than Okocha since he won champions league and EPL titles with Man u and Madrid? Damn illiterates!!!

God bless u most people sayin jay jay is not a great player never watched him play cos he didnt win the UCL now means hes not great what about players like socrates zico stam dunga guess they are not great abi
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Nobody: 7:26pm On Oct 19, 2014
reelup1:
@toecyne,what you wrote is trash. definately the indian hemp and high drugs you took before you went to prison still disturbs your brain thats the reason you wrote this rubbish .you are the one that escaped from the prison.You better rush back to kirikiri prison so you are officially directed to yaba left b4 it wud be too late.Ass hole.
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Ask your mum who toecyne is. I fvcked ur mum while in prison, I had to take those indian hemp nd drugs u mentioned to fvck her well

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by ShakurM(m): 7:27pm On Oct 19, 2014
otipoju:


That is exactly my point, how many central midfielders currently in Madrid are as gifted as he is. None.
Things he did at Bolton were exceptional but ifhe did them at Madrid, in an el classic match, he would be the most expensive player in the world and will win player of the world for five years straight.


My point is that okocha had no such ambition early in his career. If he had he would have strolled into any top club in the world.
I rate him a par below Lukas Modric regardless. Oh yeah he would be expensive, haha world best 5x!, although I grab.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by abatically(m): 7:28pm On Oct 19, 2014
ROSSIKE:


What sort of stup.id question is that?



Load of tosh. How can you say he only 'got serious' when he played at Bolton with a low goal tally, but when he was at Fenebahche where he scored a goal every two games, he was not serious? That makes zero sense. As for saying he played some of his best games for Bolton, how many of his Fenebahce or Eintracht Frankfurt games did you watch? This is why I say some of you only know a player if he plays in EPL or La Liga. That is why you think nothing happened in Jay Jay's career until he went to Bolton. In any case, it's kinda hard for an attacking midfielder of whatever quality to be banging in goals playing for a lowly club like Bolton in the EPL!! If he was playing alongside players of his quality he would have scored and created far more goals.

Dude, the Turkish league was and is still a very lowly rated league compared to Spain, England, Germany, Italy and even France. Okocha was playing a 'show off' kind of game when he was at Fernabache. When he came to Bolton he became more matured and played with his teammates more often than he ever did, but it was already too late. I still repeat if Okocha was that good big clubs would have come for him.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by alexis007(m): 7:31pm On Oct 19, 2014
overrated or underestimated?....i'm not the fittest judge to pass the irrevocable verdict on papa jay....but all i know is that he's a million times better than a certain lethargic,drooling,glued-to-the-bench Nigerian Chelsea mildfielder......that said,mentioning jay's name in the same breath with ronaldinho,messi,zidane and other ballon d'or winners is a step[judgement] taken too far away.....and about the playmaker issue.....Jay jay,in my humble opinion,is not even better than juventus' midfield maestro PAUL POGBA.....argue the fact above and expose yourself on how irritatingly little you know about Serie A football...
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by christconscious: 7:33pm On Oct 19, 2014
otipoju:
Okocha could have been the greatest.

He did not because earlier on in his career he was always playing to the gallery and preferred to enjoy himself and entertain the spectators instead of playing purposeful football.

It was after he joined PSG that his game was alteredwhen he had a paradigm shift and he started being purposeful.

Apart from these Okocha with all his skills had a preference for teams where he would be without a credible rival and so command the number ten Jersey.
So he deliberately avoided the big clubs.

His best years as a complete team oriented, match winning focused footballer was at Bolton where he had a knack for tormenting the big teams with his artistry and almost became the African footballer of the year at that time.

Nevertheless I prefer Kanu Nwankwo... His skills and mien on the ball were simply sublime. Unforced, Unhurried,and magical... Kanu did things no other player could imagine.
......trying to compare the both players ,kano is more successful than okacha in football career
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by abatically(m): 7:34pm On Oct 19, 2014
otipoju:


That is exactly my point, how many central midfielders currently in Madrid are as gifted as he is. None.
Things he did at Bolton were exceptional but ifhe did them at Madrid, in an el classic match, he would be the most expensive player in the world and will win player of the world for five years straight.


My point is that okocha had no such ambition early in his career. If he had he would have strolled into any top club in the world.

Football is not just a game of skills, if it is then Okocha would have been the greatest player ever. Anybody remember Denilson of Brazil? Football is more of a team game than just raw skills. This is the reason why players like David Beckham and Paul Scholes (2 players who cannot dribble one player one on one) are highly rated than Okocha who can dribble the whole team. David Beckham has no dribbling skills, but there are 10 more players he can pass the ball to when he has the ball.. that is what makes him a better player. Ability to make the right decision at the right time to help his team.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by fhunn: 7:41pm On Oct 19, 2014
sukkot:
oliver kahn that stiff german cadava ? even my 99 year old meguard can dribble oliver kahn. and for brazillians to acknowledge you has nothing to do with your effectiveness. brazil is the home of circus football. so naturally they love jayjay in brazil cuz he is into circus entertainment footie. brazillians acknowledging you is not such a great feat as you make it out to be


seems you're having fun...mah see wetin you go achieve na
*fingers crossed*
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Obi1kenobi(m): 7:49pm On Oct 19, 2014
Afam4eva:

Irrespective of what pele said but respective of what Obi1kenibi said. Who are we supposed to listen to? You or Pele?
Who said you should listen to me? The point was Pele's opinion is just his opinion and not necessarily correct just because he said so. Mourinho is the best manager in the world, but he had no professional career. Being a great player doesn't always make you a great coach.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Obi1kenobi(m): 7:51pm On Oct 19, 2014
gabeezugo:
Mr MAN!! See as u use ur hand dey shoot ur self 4 leg. "Okocha lacks technical ability" but still "Nigeria currently lacks a playmaker who can put his foot on d ball nd control d game" WHAT AN IRONY. Lolz. 4 pele who played football nd his living football 2 name him nd he is also a brazilian dat also lives in brazil nd have over d years played, watched and followed brazilian league , my broda PA Jay is not over rated. Okocha just enjoyed d game as he saw it nd most especially went 4 d money. Datz why he went 2 Turkey nd Quater, where salaries re not taxed. So u can saty in ur kitchen or mansion nd say dat he is not great because he didn't win anytin. Remember Abidi pele of Ghana won african best player 3times, compare him 2 jay jay now. Who is richer? Of all gifts in dis lyf my broda WISDOM is d ultimate.
Where did I say Okocha lacks technical ability? Do you even know what "technical ability" means? Learn to read before replying my posts next time. Wisdom ko.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by mancheeutd(m): 7:59pm On Oct 19, 2014
victorix:
op, i have never heard someone say "okocha is the best player ever". He was jst one of the best nigerian player of his time. Dont forget his awesome dribbling and passing skills.

I woud say, okocha was jst unlucky.

your right hes one of the best imagine jayjay imagine jayjay being rated in the days of players like seedorf, zidane, rivaldo, giggs, inzaggi, figo ,crespo, batistuta carlos schevchenko delima edgar davis... i wonder if c ronaldo or messi will be known if they had played in this era not to mention george best paul gascoigne rijkaard etc.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Obi1kenobi(m): 8:00pm On Oct 19, 2014
ROSSIKE:


Don't mind these brainless idiotts, talking rubbish about ''what has he won etc etc''. As if it is one single player that wins a club trophies. So skill-less Beckham (anywhere belleh face) must be better than Okocha since he won champions league and EPL titles with Man u and Madrid? Damn illiterates!!!
Of course Beckham is better than Okocha. grin He has not only won more team laurels, but individual ones as well and made his mark at the highest levels of the game. He was the best free-kick taker and the best crosser of the ball at this prime and his vision was outstanding and his workrate was phenomenal. Football isn't all about "skills". That's the garbage mentality that makes African teams so tactically naive on the global stage of the game. Paul Scholes is arguably the greatest central midfield playmaker of the Premier League era, but he didn't do step-overs or any fancy trickery. The likes of Xavi, Pirlo, Fabregas, David Silva etc don't waste their time on that sh.it as well.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Swiftboy(m): 8:04pm On Oct 19, 2014
abatically:


So good and they named him twice.... Playing for BOLTON WANDERERS. Trust me if he was that good then the world's big clubs would tussle for his signature. Great entertainer though, but not in the league of kanu nwankwo, Samuel etoo, George weah.
Judging a player by his trophies aint good enough. There're players that only play cameo roles for their country but none remember them. Austin Jay Jay Okocha is a living legend in football take it or leave it. Yes he does not win enough trophies cos unfortunately,he could not get a good club.yes twice he was nominated but was not chosen for those awards. Jay Jay is gifted so he's a great player and you cant take that away from him. Greatness have different.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Obi1kenobi(m): 8:06pm On Oct 19, 2014
abatically:


Football is not just a game of skills, if it is then Okocha would have been the greatest player ever. Anybody remember Denilson of Brazil? Football is more of a team game than just raw skills. This is the reason why players like David Beckham and Paul Scholes (2 players who cannot dribble one player one on one) are highly rated than Okocha who can dribble the whole team. David Beckham has no dribbling skills, but there are 10 more players he can pass the ball to when he has the ball.. that is what makes him a better player. Ability to make the right decision at the right time to help his team.
Well said. I'm still laughing at saying Okocha was better than Beckham, and thinking the opinion actually makes sense. I can only conclude it's borne of ignorance. Scholes and Beckham don't perform any fancy tricks, but their understanding of the game and their passing range was phenomenal. Beckham declined fairly quickly around the time he fell out with Ferguson because of his celebrity life-style, but so many people either forget or are ignorant of how good he actually was in his late 90's to early 00's prime years. And I say that even as an Arsenal fan who has always hated Man U.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by daey118(m): 8:06pm On Oct 19, 2014
victorix:
op, i have never heard someone say "okocha is the best player ever". He was jst one of the best nigerian player of his time. Dont forget his awesome dribbling and passing skills.

I woud say, okocha was jst unlucky.
3words: God Bless You.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by xtripple: 8:08pm On Oct 19, 2014
okonja:
So, what's your main point now because all you wrote is trash.. undecided angry

250 mb is for 300 while 1gb is 1200, though I dont wanna spoil ur biz, jst sell to them for normal price.

Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by McLuhan(m): 8:13pm On Oct 19, 2014
toecyne:
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Ask your mum who toecyne is. I fvcked ur mum while in prison, I had to take those indian hemp nd drugs u mentioned to fvck her well
Is it your anonymity that makes you use this type of language? May God forgive you.

As for the debate about the greatness or otherwise of Jay Jay Okocha, there is really no need to argue with each other. If not for the fact that Okocha never played for any of the 'big' clubs, there would have been no controversy about his place among the greatest footballers of all time. But because he didn't play for Madrid or Manchester United, people take the liberty of belittling his talents. Well, such people are entitled to their opinion. But I hope they will also allow me to hold my own opinion, which is that Augustine Azuka Okocha is probably the most prodigiously gifted footballer of all time.

Instead of comparing him with any other player, I would rather thank God for having given Nigeria such a talented player and for having given me the opportunity to witness the amazing skills that Okocha so effortlessly displayed.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by forray(m): 8:13pm On Oct 19, 2014
otipoju:
sad

Mr man just keep quiet if you can't comprehend and stop making a fool of yourself. Greatness is synonymous with exploits. What are okochas exploits that make him rank among the greatest. Give me hard facts.

Is it not the same Pele that believes that neymar is better than messi and predicted that an african country will win the world cup before 2010.lets leave what Pele thinks and give me concrete arguments

You don't even understand the crux of the matter before running your mouth and attacking me making noise like a machine for grinding pepper.Okochas quality is not in doubt and i have not questioned it in any way.he would be a welcome addition to any topside.

What I have been trying to drum into your senile brain is that he shied away from the path to greatness by having other intrrests that were antithetic to the road less travelled.

For crying out loud we are talking about a player who had the skills and precensce of mind to humiliate Oliver khan and about four defenders in the goal area before deciding to score even though he had the chance. Entertaining but not purposeful. It was late in his career that his game evolved and he was phenomenal at Bolton and by that time age had caught up with him.

Stop trying to claim one arcane knowledge on a subject as simple as simple as a club desiring or being offered a good player by an agent and choosing to sign him after some negotiations as regards his value among other things. Oga go and sit down somewhere if you no get point.
dude ur argument is seriously flawed, like u said in one of ur earlier post that pele is entitled to his opinion, I believe this is ur own opinion. But u sound as if u are trying to push it down everybody throat who has a different opinion. And I believe we can have a constructive argument without this unnecessary insult. Back to d topic, u said trophies won is ur standard for measuring greatness, let's take pedro of barca for example who has won lots of trophy with dem and playing for one of the best club. No true football fan will ever say pedro is more of a greater player dan okocha, infact its an insult to put both player name is d same sentence. What am tryin to say is that been great in football has alot involve and there is know way jay jay can ever been just an ordinary play. If he is ordinary, y is it we hvnt be able to find anybody to fill is boots in our national team for how long now? Incase u hv forgot what he is all abt try look for best of okocha and tell me how many ordinary play cn do what he does. Cheers
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by daey118(m): 8:20pm On Oct 19, 2014
ednut1:
what is this one saying. okocha was an average player
next thing he''ll say is Mikel is an. Above_average player. ..you'll see
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by forray(m): 8:24pm On Oct 19, 2014
Kog45:
Pls stop disturbing yourself,they will never agreed with you bcs they dont know basic things about football than to watch.Pls ask them this simple question,who is the successful player btw ordinary Mikel and magician Okocha?they will started talking thrash.
thank u, that is what his topic shld hv been, okocha not been a successful player. Cos there is no way okocha was ever
overhype.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Nobody: 8:24pm On Oct 19, 2014
sarutobie:
Anyone who says okocha was overhyped was still a toddler when he captained Bolton in topflight English football...even Campo began imitating okocha's movement and passing technique on the pitch..be mindful that campo played in madrid before coming to Bolton...yes he was that good..up until now, we still dont have a decent free kick taker in the super eagles! not even from the successful 'mikels of today'...it might be argued that he lacked the hunger and drive like c.ronaldo or drogba for example, but his football mastery can never be questione..one of the few nigerian players who just loved playing the game for the love of it..

Okocha never lacked any hunger and drive. The 'big clubs' simply refused to table a decent offer for him. I'm not aware of any offer any of them made. One or two rumours in the papers and that was it. It's incredible. What special football knowledge did ALL the coaches in the 'top cliubs' have that the rest of the world cannot see, as to what their reason was for not signing Jay Jay? When he SHOULD have been signed was from Fenebahce, even though PSG came in with a record 24 million GBP for him - the highest signing on fee of any African up till that time, and a French record. So they KNEW he had the goods.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by kullozone(m): 8:36pm On Oct 19, 2014
chai!!
i don open anoda yeye thread again...just spoilt ma night.
okocha,overhyped??abi he was even underrated...dude was just unlucky in his career.
nawa oh!
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Daddybee: 8:38pm On Oct 19, 2014
Not very sure most ppl here know who Okocha was as a player....he was just too good and his goal against Khan still ranks among the best 10 in Germany. Noone does it better!
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by BarryX(m): 8:43pm On Oct 19, 2014
If somebody is overhyped and you took out almost the whole day to try and buttress your points and convince us to the latter.

And the dude is somewhere in his sofa lounging and popping champagne for some new millions coming in.

Who is really stupid here and jobless?

10 pages for a supposed "overhyped" player!! Whewww!! Lord have mercy
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Nobody: 8:46pm On Oct 19, 2014
abatically:


Dude, the Turkish league was and is still a very lowly rated league compared to Spain, England, Germany, Italy and even France. Okocha was playing a 'show off' kind of game when he was at Fernabache. When he came to Bolton he became more matured and played with his teammates more often than he ever did, but it was already too late.
I disagree. The Turkish league is not THAT far 'behind' the leagues you mentioned. And the quality of their league meant nothing to Okocha. When Fenebahche played Man U at Old Trafford, Jay Jay Okocha was the best player on the pitch by an ABSOLUTE MILE, leading to the English commentators wondering aloud what a player like this was doing in Fenebahche. They were openly saying he should be at AC Milan or Barcelona. And what you call Okocha's 'show off' kind of game is a GROSS INSULT to his massive talent. I've already shown that he was EFFECTIVE at Fenebahce (32 goals in 60 games is highly effective for a midfielder). He included great skill in his game, just as Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi do today (to the extent they can), AS YOU KISS THEIR NUTS IN ADMIRATION. For you it is one rule for Okocha, another rule for foreigners. If Okocha dribbles it's ''Oh Okocha is showing off''. If Messi dribbles it's ''wow, Messi is from another planet!'' Rubbish.

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by chukwuka12: 8:51pm On Oct 19, 2014
Haba, Okocha has lived his life, played his ball and is now enjoying his life.... Weda you agree or not it still makes no difference.... Pls let him be.. With all due respect this post is not necessary...
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Nobody: 8:56pm On Oct 19, 2014
chai chai OP! the thunder that is about to fire you is doing press up...where were you when German chancellor gave naija presido who came visiting their country, Okocha no 10 jersey sometime ago? perhaps you were on a mental sabatical. He is one of the only select few legendary players to walk the face of planet earth not only from Africa in case you dont know take it or leave it. even the great Dinho attest to the fact.

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by otipoju(m): 8:58pm On Oct 19, 2014
Tbamo:


Which of the awo galls? Great UI or rubbish Ife?
I knew that kind of intellect could only be found in one of those two universities!

The one in Ife.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by oladosuphemmy: 9:02pm On Oct 19, 2014
Okocha is no where near nigerian's g8est
Player dt won zero trophies and zero individual acolade.
Evn b4 he retired We question his commitment to d national team.
Stats were so much against him.
In football, so fa ure playing centralmidfield, wings, a PLAYMAKER, or a striker to be categorised as a great player d numbers must speak for u.
Ronaidinho, messi, iniesta,xavi, pirlo,figo, snieder, gerrard, lampard, toure yaya, schwientiger, etc r all gr8 PLAYMAKER . okocha ws also a playmaker but he is never to be compared to those players.
You might wanna argue dat its because he is an african dats y he nt so much recognised players like nwanko kanu won d ucl with ajax, is goal scoring record ws gr8, he played 4 very good clubs (ajax, arsenal intermillan), rash1idi yekini: he is still d Nigeria's all tym goalscorer, vctor ikpeba(d prince of monaco), Drogba:wat cn i say, one of d best players to comeout of africa. he ws playing 4 marselle b/4 his talent spotted by chelsea.Yaya toure:former asec mimosa plyer, plyed 4 barca and he is currently a top performer @manc now world clz.
Samuel etoo: world class striker in his days played 4 Real mad., barca and chelsea.
Dese r all world clz plyers, dat deir talent wz recognized by top teams inspite of been an african.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by daey118(m): 9:04pm On Oct 19, 2014
NairaMode:
Jay Jay Okocha was a Lord in his chosen field.
Take it or leave it.
Nope. I disagree. The niqqah' was a "God" that was intensely feared by every defence line. He was that one player that Could determine if his team won or lost. Once he wants to cut players. Destiny? Nobody can rescue him. Even if the ref. Blows for hlf time.the player go first. Chop am before he her whistle .That guy (to me) had the ability to decide how many goals he wanted to score in a match and he would do it even if he wanted to score ten. All of you'll open your mouth and say "haaaaa.its not possible" then I'll ask. Who is the defender or keeper that'll stop him from scoring the 10 ?? He has wasted the strongest defenders and even washed one of the finest goalies "khan" with all sort of soaps(why he never used his super powers? Is a question for the man to answer) Well! I don't know much about football analysis now but I'm gonna ask. Please .what makes an individual a great player ? Skills or trophies ? Is mikel to be rated higher than Jay my nigah ? Football now sef is just "gra gra" after okocha and ronaldinho .zidane. and *head bows* uncle DelimaRonaldo(the phenomenon) . There's really notin much left .than 22men grown men chasing one innocent leather ball like it owed them money undecided #JustSaying.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by sukkot: 9:07pm On Oct 19, 2014
MrPresident1:


Sh....t happens. It wasn't their day. Match was prolly rigged undecided
rigged my a-s-s cheesy

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