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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by bayulll01(m): 11:15am On Oct 24, 2014
majek maybe u dont understand what I mean by enabling environment get it straight u are in a nation where everything is politiced corruption and nepotism killing us,pole Dont take our engineer serious that why they keep on with expertrait knowing fully well that grade are bought and merit are not rewarded,wooooo I can't shout I need to relocate ASAP won fe paaa no in timaya voice
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by patrickkkk: 11:17am On Oct 24, 2014
grin
JAkpayen:
Feraz you earn my respect. But this mentality actually start from the school where we are taught to get good grades (even by crooked means except few schools), get our dream job, and live the good life. @OP, for the country to achieve what you stated then we must individually make self-sacrifice and avoid only-me attitude.
Exactly, you on point. The engineers of our generation are not driven by passion or interest for the job rather driven by comfort e.g fat salary. Am afraid it will only get worse as long as we continue to have wrong people for the engineering profession.

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 11:21am On Oct 24, 2014
Who is this human being dats sayn dat oil and gas engineers sit down in d office doin nohin and at the end of the day they will collect 1.2million naira... R u crazy?

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 11:24am On Oct 24, 2014
tooltip:
Like kickstarter, right?, i endorse having creative competitions for students than beauty pageant events

Not exactly, those could be programmes under the group activity.

let me give an example ok some one has an invention in mind. Others have ideas to better it, if a group like that existed they could work on it togetherbeing funded by their on pockets and sponsorship form tech coys.

Like you could even send your selves on courses to increase your knowledge.

Then what you said,

That could be during training week to help younger ones in that areas, or to discover new concepts.

You should get me

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 11:28am On Oct 24, 2014
Cutehector4u:
Who is this human being dats sayn dat oil and gas engineers sit down in d office doin nohin and at the end of the day they will collect 1.2million naira... R u crazy?


You should be in your late 20s or early 30s yet you don't behave like one undecided

If you want to defend your 1.2 mill do so but you don't to be aggressive smiley

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by okzcorp: 11:29am On Oct 24, 2014
Feraz:
Of course, needs differ. . . In terms of technological needs, I'd go foreign because we're still not at that stage but in terms of basic needs like clothes, shoes etc., I'd go Nigerian. How is the above related to this topic BTW?

He wants to find out if you can trust the products of our technology. Would you buy Innoson SUV rather than Toyota SUV?
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 11:30am On Oct 24, 2014
Cutehector4u:
Who is this human being dats sayn dat oil and gas engineers sit down in d office doin nohin and at the end of the day they will collect 1.2million naira... R u crazy?

grin grin grin I think you need t read the post again. No need getting so defensive

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 11:31am On Oct 24, 2014
Suley316:



You should be in your late 20s or early 30s yet you don't behave like one undecided

If you want to defend your 1.2 mill do so but you don't to be aggressive smiley
i duno wat to say to u...seriosly...
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 11:33am On Oct 24, 2014
naijababe:


grin grin grin I think you need t read the post again. No need getting so defensive
my dear one line in the text made me to comment on that....so read it
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by casiraghi: 11:33am On Oct 24, 2014
I think what we need as a nation to develop those sectors of Engineering is mainly investment, once the investors come into the country, Nigerian will be made to taking up key positions in those firms with time they will develop competence in those sectors and will move from those companies to setup their own similar firms, there is no need to re-event the wheel.

On the part of youths we need to take education more serious and develop a technological culture and reduce our appetite for foreign made goods

I think the government is on the right direction with the policy on cement, auto manufacturing more sectors need policies like that, we also need to give very attractive incentive to major manufacturing giants to come and setup of industries and R and D centers,The government should also take the issue of funding for education very seriously.

China and India are shinning example mainly because of huge investment from the US, Europe and other developed counties.

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by iCool(m): 11:40am On Oct 24, 2014
Cutehector4u:
Who is this human being dats sayn dat [b]oil and gas engineers sit down in d office doin nohin[b/] and at the end of the day they will collect 1.2million naira... R u crazy?
lool, I understand your anger but it wasn't necessary.

I just viewed the post from the angle of a Drilling engineer, only the high blood pressure associated with delivering a well successfully warrants him requesting for a 5m monthly salary.

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 11:43am On Oct 24, 2014
bushdoc9919:


And we can change that poor mentality by spending our oil money on rail , road and power infrastructure...and finally completing Ajaokuta...so that at least we can have the beginnings of an industrial society.

And while bad leaders play a big role in our mess...bad followers too are there as well.

Most of you educated Nigerians prefer to work in offices, rather than to devise innovative solutions to problems that directly influence you.

Like, for example...all those chemical engineers cannot develop a machine that would extract chemicals from waste/refuse...that could be used in industry and farming?

And all the argument over who gets the oil money...indeed you Nigerians are far too concerned about how to share oil money, or how to keep the Hausas from getting your oil money....that you refuse to invest in local industrial growth.

Because, local industrial growth's rewards are long term , not the short term thing that you Nigerians love. You want your reward here and now...you do not want to wait. You want to share the oil money now...you don't want to hear 'Long term planning'.You want to build your mansion now., ranter than twenty years later. And you people protect corrupt leaders for the price of a few notes of oil money.

Me, I think it is high time we made our governors and LGA chairmen and even the Federal Govt invest more in power, education(especially technical education) and the supporting infrastructure needed to develop a strong industrial base. And a lot of the funding can be got by removing that thing called fuel subsidy.

That is why oil is a curse. It stifles local development. Why make cars....when you can import them with oil money?

Trust me sweetheart, leadership is everything. Human beings are essentially like sheep, we all like to think we are different but all we do is follow the herd. Hitler, Franklin, Bello, Awolowo, Ojukwu, Babangida, Steve Jobs..........all leaders who changed the fortune of millions.

There can only be bad follower-ship if good leadership is present, in the latter's absence, there is only follower-ship.
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Feraz(m): 11:45am On Oct 24, 2014
naijababe:


grin grin grin I think you need t read the post again. No need getting so defensive
Thank you oh!
Cutehector4u:
Who is this human being dats sayn dat oil and gas engineers sit down in d office doin nohin and at the end of the day they will collect 1.2million naira... R u crazy?
1. The amount there is just an assumption and not a fact.
2. That is the mentality some undergraduates have.
3. I appealed and said 'if there's anything I am ignorant about in the above write-up, please, do correct me as I am still acquiring knowledge'.
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 11:52am On Oct 24, 2014
iCool:

lool, I understand your anger but it wasn't necessary.

I just viewed the post from the angle of a Drilling engineer, only the high blood pressure associated with delivering a well successfully warrants him requesting for a 5m monthly salary.
icool thank u pls...i really really got annoyed ..i dnt hav to mince word cuz i hav worked in an oil company befor and i was in a position whr it was do or die....dr was this job my colleagues and i were to undertake..well as we were carryin it out, the job objective is to take a water hydrant hose, the hose is big in diameter and flush a line of crude oil pumps ..u knw wen these grease hav accumulated around d area, u need a very high pressure water to flush it out unless it wont go out...as soon as one of my cooleagues unlockrd the water hydrant, d force with whch it came out almost threw me on the floor as i was holding the nozzle of the hose pointin towards the pump.....lol i git so scared and thankd my God dat i ddnt fall..den two other coleagues came to join me in holdin the nozzle cuz it was too heavy ...even as we were three holdn it, we couldnt still move forward cuz we were all struggling and usin all the nergy in our bodies to move here and thr flushin the pump area..... By the tym we were true, all the food in my body and energy got drained i swear...all ov us got so tired and what use our walkie talkie to call a hilux driver frm our section to come pick us up... So the kind of jobs we do at oil and gas section isnt wat some persons wil come and say "sit down in office" i want to believe maybe that the oerson who wrote this text has little pr no experience,,.
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 11:55am On Oct 24, 2014
Feraz:
Thank you oh!
1. The amount there is just an assumption and not a fact.
2. That is the mentality some undergraduates have.
3. I appealed and said 'if there's anything I am ignorant about in the above write-up, please, do correct me as I am still acquiring knowledge'.
feraz ur write up was too too lenghty and i ddnt get to finish it okk,.i only stopd at the point whr u wrote that we sit down in the office doin nothing and we get fat salaries.... I pray u dnt get to work in the field in an oil and gas industry....cuz people get to loose thr lives tooo...due to accidents...its not a jokin matter..
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Feraz(m): 11:59am On Oct 24, 2014
Cutehector4u:
feraz ur write up was too too lenghty and i ddnt get to finish it okk,.i only stopd at the point whr u wrote that we sit down in the office doin nothing and we get fat salaries.... I pray u dnt get to work in the field in an oil and gas industry....cuz people get to loose thr lives tooo...due to accidents...its not a jokin matter..
That's where the misunderstanding came in. Guess it's been cleared. And oh, I have no experience as you said. I'm still an undergraduate.
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 12:01pm On Oct 24, 2014
Feraz:
That's where the misunderstanding came in. Guess it's been cleared. And oh, I have no experience as you said. I'm still an undergraduate.
my apologies.....what course r u studyn?
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by freshjayy: 12:01pm On Oct 24, 2014
First the regulatory bodies of engineering in Nigeria is a waste especially the so called NSE that does not know more dan collecting money from Nigerians and forgetting why they were created in the first place.
Secondly am an engineer in the power sector and I must say government no try, no motivation, no training, poor salary. I schooled in the UK and I know how very attractive the Power jobs are. The government is only paying attention to oil and one day that oil go finish and we would see what next.
We need a government for the future that can harness the potentials of very bright Nigerians not dem PDP that are enriching demselves

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 12:03pm On Oct 24, 2014
yea i understand you bro, the two go hand in hand, a platform for creatives can network and a crowdfunding platform, to help with financing...so when are you doing something about this smiley
Suley316:


Not exactly, those could be programmes under the group activity.

let me give an example ok some one has an invention in mind. Others have ideas to better it, if a group like that existed they could work on it togetherbeing funded by their on pockets and sponsorship form tech coys.

Like you could even send your selves on courses to increase your knowledge.

Then what you said,

That could be during training week to help younger ones in that areas, or to discover new concepts.

You should get me
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 12:04pm On Oct 24, 2014
freshjayy:
First the regulatory bodies of engineering in Nigeria is a waste especially the so called NSE that does not know more dan collecting money from Nigerians and forgetting why they were created in the first place.
Secondly am an engineer in the power sector and I must say government no try, no motivation, no training, poor salary. I schooled in the UK and I know how very attractive the Power jobs are. The government is only paying attention to oil and one day that oil go finish and we would see what next.
We need a government for the future that can harness the potentials of very bright Nigerians not dem PDP that are enriching demselves

Selling off the power sector is a good thing, unless we are truly fu-cked it should make a tremendous difference soon enough. In fact, the less in the hand of the government the better

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Feraz(m): 12:04pm On Oct 24, 2014
2sexi:
eleyi gidi gan o. Are you serious?
I asked her to provide a link from where I copied it from and she is yet to do so.
Cutehector4u:
my apologies.....what course r u studyn?
Mechanical Engineering. . . .
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 12:06pm On Oct 24, 2014
Feraz:
I asked her to provide a link from where I copied it from and she is yet to do so.
Mechanical Engineering. . . .
oh goood,.. ,..make sure u come out with good grades ....
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 12:18pm On Oct 24, 2014
tooltip:
yea i understand you bro, the two go hand in hand, a platform for creatives can network and a crowdfunding platform, to help with financing...so when are you doing something about this smiley

In 7 to 8 years Insha Allah.

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Adiwana: 12:19pm On Oct 24, 2014
Op,you're right but who no want better life..my big couz who studied mech.eng. Works in schulmberg in Kenya..last he was working in port,anoder london,anoder Netherland,anoder Dubia&so on..he changes cars like clothes..he recently refused to wed in my villa,cos he has rich frends in port who go gve him smth,i hav never seen him in my life time enter bus&many more is what hes life has been since he entered oil/gas sector&you want me to finsh my education&come dey invent wat?thats wat Nigeria is for you
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by dejavski(m): 12:32pm On Oct 24, 2014
baggylips:
pls start by leaving this country or ur dream will die with you.If you doubt me visit National biotechnology development agency(NABDA) at lugbe,Abuja.

Well... What I can say is that "it can only get better"

I believe that if we add more pressure by using social media to put up our ideas who knows it can come of good in future
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Feraz(m): 12:32pm On Oct 24, 2014
Cutehector4u:
oh goood,.. ,..make sure u come out with good grades ....
Will do. Thank you! smiley
naijareferee:

But i have a few questions for you

1. |Did you finish from a school of technology or just a conventional engineering school?
2. If u did, have you ever taken time to go to the workshop archives of your school
3. what did you design or invent as your final year project
4. Do you think it is lack of innovation that push people into oil and gas
5. For the time you spent in school, has a government ever paid attention to your school final projects

N.B. A faculty mate created a fridge and an oven combo....they work inter-changeably using the just one power source, today it lies in the store of my schools workshop.
1. Nope. Still attend a conventional school
2. I have.
3. Asides lack of innovation, the motivation is not there.
4. Nope. The government has not.

That friend of yours, I wish he had pasted his work here. He may have been noticed.
ezme:
@Feraz... Nice write up, arguments well thought through and should be the ideal picture for a forward thinking society.

I would like to advise you. There is a real world out there, outside UGBOWO, where people make ends meet and fulfill other personal goals. You are getting an education so you can provide. Above all things try to get your grades up (if they not up at the moment). You would understand when you finally get out of school. I don't see the structure you seek falling in place in another 5years, so brace yourself. You may join the bandwagon too, unless you find yourself outside the shores of this country.

Just to correct the notion, people in the oil and gas industry don't just sit in the office and get paid. Engineering project and project execution encompasses alot. The industry has both the operator end and the service end. There are design engineers, project engineers, interface engineers,etc. These ones make mental input to the engineering solution being provided. You don't have to do the dirty jobs all the time before you consider yourself an engineer.

P.S: The handy men are actually technicians
shocked shocked Who be you? grin
For the second bolded, I once had that mentality but after my Industrial Training with the NN and researches into the field, the mentality had to die down. That was when I realized the potentials in the various fields. For the third bolded, thanks for that. It's just that as an undergraduate, you get to hear funny things from fellow coursemates. Thanks all the same.
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Feraz(m): 12:37pm On Oct 24, 2014
hopelink1:
not bad it's just that you didnt write much about chemical engineers
Sorry about that bro. If I had, the write-up will become too too lengthy than it already is. smiley
Mrkuvuki:


Our Banks are allergic to Tech and startups , they are more eager to give you loan for APC forms

A lot of folks are obsessed with the "plagiarise" word since the linda ikeji debacle, Ignore them and move on...Nice write up bro,I was educated
Thanks mate. I just tire for person. What will it take from me to acknowledge someone else's work? I even made reference to a Nairalander's post in order to buttress further my points. The said lady has not provided a link to anywhere it was written since I challenged her to.
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by dejavski(m): 12:41pm On Oct 24, 2014
freshjayy:
First the regulatory bodies of engineering in Nigeria is a waste especially the so called NSE that does not know more dan collecting money from Nigerians and forgetting why they were created in the first place.
Secondly am an engineer in the power sector and I must say government no try, no motivation, no training, poor salary. I schooled in the UK and I know how very attractive the Power jobs are. The government is only paying attention to oil and one day that oil go finish and we would see what next.
We need a government for the future that can harness the potentials of very bright Nigerians not dem PDP that are enriching demselves

See that's where the real problem lies... Our over-depence on govt for everything!!!. Let me ask you one question, What do you think the scholarship programs being awarded to undergraduates by private/public bodies are meant for
After collecting the massive scholarship funds from these bodies what does the beneficiaries do with it?....they spend it lavishly on other unrelated areas and wait for the next one the following year. So u see my friend, the youths are not helping also. Not everything in the land that we'll blame the govt for.

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Jesuspikin7: 12:41pm On Oct 24, 2014
chizzy94:
Engineering is the only thing that gets my D'ck hard; no bo'bies, no as'es, no pink lips, no yoga pants. Just Engineering!
If there be another world, Lord knows I'mma stick with Engineering. Engineers make your dreams come through.
Good Lord, thank you for giving me the privilege, the second chance to live this dream.
If I die, I die a beautiful death smiley cool.
True talk! What branch are you studying?
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Nobody: 12:47pm On Oct 24, 2014
naijababe:
@ bushdoc9919

Oil is not a curse...........it is our mentality, lack of true and selfless leaders that is a curse. If we didn't have oil, our case will be sorrier than it is. Nigeria will in fact be a mirror image of Haiti!!! Comparing a resource poor nations like Singapore and Finland is comparing apples and oranges.

Nigeria in many ways is like medieval Europe, humour me a bit and read some accounts of how people lived then compare with present day Nigeria, the similarities are so striking that is shameful to admit.


The similarities are very startling. I, too, have noticed it.

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Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by alentyno: 12:48pm On Oct 24, 2014
Cutehector4u:
Who is this human being dats sayn dat oil and gas engineers sit down in d office doin nohin and at the end of the day they will collect 1.2million naira... R u crazy?
You dey mind them undecided
Re: The Nigerian Engineer And The Oil/Gas Career Mentality by Feraz(m): 12:51pm On Oct 24, 2014
safarigirl:
Oh, like the Nigerian government will have a level playing ground for you with your innovative ideas.

They'll just shove it all under their desks and tell you they'll look into it. This isn't about people not looking towards other aspects of engineering. When you do, they'll choke all your ideas until you're an empty shell
Hence why I said we need to come together and make the Engineering bodies in the nation sit up to create a common front. We cannot continue to be like this.
AjanleKoko:
It's a tough one.
Being an engineer myself, I can relate to the OP's feelings.

However . . . there is no gainsaying the fact that Nigerians are mentally and psychologically lazy, as well as greedy and lacking in personal conviction. So you can't single out the engineering profession.

That is not to say that there are many engineering graduates in Nigeria who desire an opportunity to practise, not necessarily for oil-and-gas type of pay. Since we're not building and making things in Nigeria, there are little options for such people. IT has been an outlet for the last decade and a half, and people have done well in Nigeria here.
I greet you sir! smiley The bolded, that is quite harsh but true (some actually).

Thank you all for contributions.

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