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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:39pm On Oct 22, 2014
neighy:
also known as Quick Response Group
use in protecting airforce facilities
The are very active in NE
Aint sure if the are still present in Niger
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 8:15am On Oct 23, 2014
Ibnsultan:
its QRF. Their camo is a bit different. Like below
These are airforce soldiers (carmouflage for nigerian airforce) !
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 10:04am On Oct 23, 2014
Henry120:
Amisom, KDF forces.
oga Henry i ve noticed somethings about the various pictures you and other posters ve been posting.
1. The pictures posted for the southafrican security services " shows" a well equipped security and trained security service( since most of the pictures are from training exercises) with very good public relation.
2. The Kenyan defence force photos are focused mainly on their land based assets and their efforts in AMISOM.
3. I ve also noticed that the photos posted here for AMISOM are very professional and does not only capture the military equipment but also give the viewer a scenic view of the area.
4. The nigerian navy seems to be the only nigerian security service releasing professional photos to the public. This have built and nurtured the false idea that the nigerian military is a large poorly equipped and poorly trained security service.
5. The nigerian defence industries and foreign defence industries based in Nigeria like proforce, DICON, BVST ( bulgarian) have been poorly covered here.

This are some of my observations.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Centrifude(m): 4:18pm On Oct 23, 2014
overhypedsteve:
oga Henry i ve noticed somethings about the various pictures you and other posters ve been posting.
1. The pictures posted for the southafrican security services " shows" a well equipped security and trained security service( since most of the pictures are from training exercises) with very good public relation.
2. The Kenyan defence force photos are focused mainly on their land based assets and their efforts in AMISOM.
3. I ve also noticed that the photos posted here for AMISOM are very professional and does not only capture the military equipment but also give the viewer a scenic view of the area.
4. The nigerian navy seems to be the only nigerian security service releasing professional photos to the public. This have built and nurtured the false idea that the nigerian military is a large poorly equipped and poorly trained security service.
5. The nigerian defence industries and foreign defence industries based in Nigeria like proforce, DICON, BVST ( bulgarian) have been poorly covered here.

This are some of my observations.

Well to be honest most Africans believe that their defence force are weak and unprofessional, because of the bad publicity we get from local and foreign media, its the same situation here in S.A the average person doesn't know a thing about our Defence they think all of our soldiers are fat lazy and they never do anything, its because we don't have that Major PR like western countries , our Media only reports the bad things, they never really show any support for the defence Force, plus our Military leaders themselves don't like sharing information about their operations.

I also think that if the Nigerian Government did more to show its people that the Military is working there A**es off to deal with Boko-haram, people would showed actually support instead of criticising them, maybe they should copy Israels style of Military propaganda.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:14am On Oct 24, 2014
overhypedsteve:
oga Henry i ve noticed somethings about the various pictures you and other posters ve been posting.
1. The pictures posted for the southafrican security services " shows" a well equipped security and trained security service( since most of the pictures are from training exercises) with very good public relation.
2. The Kenyan defence force photos are focused mainly on their land based assets and their efforts in AMISOM.
3. I ve also noticed that the photos posted here for AMISOM are very professional and does not only capture the military equipment but also give the viewer a scenic view of the area.
4. The nigerian navy seems to be the only nigerian security service releasing professional photos to the public. This have built and nurtured the false idea that the nigerian military is a large poorly equipped and poorly trained security service.
5. The nigerian defence industries and foreign defence industries based in Nigeria like proforce, DICON, BVST ( bulgarian) have been poorly covered here.

This are some of my observations.

South-Africa has a well drilled military, and a sophisticated, well developed defence media. It also helps that their photos are training photos, it's one of the sure ways to build patriotism amongst the rest of the population, and build confidence in the military. So, if there's a major military exercise, even if the DOD or mainstream media do not release photos of the exercise, you are 99.9% certain that defence related media outlets would.


2) like the rest of Africa, the same problem/ soviet era mentality plaguing the Nigerian military, also affects militaries of Kenya, Uganda and the rest of Africa. Amisom is an A.U led mission, this is why photos are released, including photos of the Nigerian police FPU in Somalia. Amisom in many was has been a spectacular success for the A.U, so the A.U wants to as much as possible leverage on this success story.

3) Amisom Photos, just like the SANDF photos are professionally taken, in many ways, Amisom photos are even better. The man reason for this is, Amisom forces, especially the Ugandans embedded experienced, war photo-journalists in their operations. So, the Ugandans get 70% of Amisom photo publicity. While the Kenyans, burundians, Ethiopians et al share 30%.

The last KDF photos were top notch.

4) yes, the Nigerian navy is the only arm of the Nigerian military that releases photos, yet, even they, have also stopped. The last officially released NN photos were from Exercise African winds in November of 2013. From that time till today, the Nigerian Navy has carried out 5-6 Major training exercises (obangame 2014, Majepo, Joint Chinese anti-piracy drills, 2 Joint exercises with the British, a large combined west-African drill), yet not a single photo from the Navy. The much smaller exercise would be calling for too much from the navy.

Exercise Majepo was a live firing exercise which involved 10 naval platforms, held at the eastern naval command in calabar. Yet, nothing.

The Nigerian navy has greatly improved the reputation of the Nigerian military, and unless they revert to their active P.R, their efforts would be lost.


5) Defence companies operating in Nigeria are grossly under-reported, this is a shame. They also vary from production to maintenance, boats, vessels, APC, protective gear et al.

Inkas has a production facility in Nigeria (canada).
Streit group another Canadian company has a maintenance facility.
Proforce Defence
DICON
DICON/Proforce MOU on the production of APC's.
Arza Armouring
there's also a Chinese company that produces APC's in Nigeria, V.P Sambo alluded to this.
Mekahog
Mondant

So, this sector is under-reported. The companies should also learn how to market themselves.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by celeron40(m): 8:31am On Oct 24, 2014
Oga Henry, any idea about the specs of the IGIRIGI? The new version seems different from the NADCEL variant.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by neighy(m): 10:57am On Oct 24, 2014
The NDA

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:46pm On Oct 24, 2014
celeron40:
Oga Henry, any idea about the specs of the IGIRIGI? The new version seems different from the NADCEL variant.

The Specs aren't public knowledge, however, since it's an LAV, it's specs should be just under the Otokar Cobra, with a Range of 900km/ 110km top speed.

It's ballistics level would comfortably take sustained GPMG fire and grenade blast.

The new version is an improved variant of the original prototypes, seen at NaDCEL. Improvements were bound to be made to the final thing which we see today.

My only problem is, I don't trust the government to sustain it. The blue-print should be sold to private nigerian firms.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:51pm On Oct 24, 2014
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:00pm On Oct 24, 2014
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:09pm On Oct 24, 2014
As we can see, it's just an improved variant.

The Streit cougar and Proforce PF2 MK2 are similar.

Same as Inkas recently launched LAPV, and Proforce Leopard ACV.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:10pm On Oct 24, 2014
South-African Police

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:46pm On Oct 24, 2014
5 Days ago, KDF killed 5 suspected terrorists(alshabaab) after they refused to stop and opened fire on the soldiers (No soldier was killed) along the Kenya-Ethiopia border- The vehicle was later found to have 100kgs of TNT and about six suicide vests. Military Intelligence said the vehicle unsuccessfully attempted to gain entry into Kenya at another border point. Now the Westgate terrorist used the Uganda-Kenya boder to gain entry into Kenya so they wouldn't be suspected of being terrorist. Both these countries (Uganda & Ethiopia) have a presence in Somalia. I know Kenya police might be allitle bit corrupt but how comes Alshabaab is so determined to make a big dent in Kenya. Not that i wan't them to harm Ugandans or Ethiopians. Or is it because we have a free media and they know they will get front page cover even with the smallest of incidence'? Or have they just grown to really hate us!


On other related issues. News just in, KDF have killled 80 Alshabaab in a town near the one they captured last-week-but-one as they charge forward operation indian ocean
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by celeron40(m): 6:43pm On Oct 24, 2014
Henry120:


The Specs aren't public knowledge, however, since it's an LAV, it's specs should be just under the Otokar Cobra, with a Range of 900km/ 110km top speed.

It's ballistics level would comfortably take sustained GPMG fire and grenade blast.

The new version is an improved variant of the original prototypes, seen at NaDCEL. Improvements were bound to be made to the final thing which we see today.

My only problem is, I don't trust the government to sustain it. The blue-print should be sold to private nigerian firms.
Its an impressive feat..To be honest, I expected the Army to shelve the project after the NADCEL "showcase"...To think that they developed improved versions is just impressive..I'm sure the Army will invest in the project fully..about 300-500 units will do..then we can switch the Hiluxes to logistics roles..Proforce developed an IFV..I saw some virtual images on the net some time a go..I think it was a 30mm armed IFV..can't seem to find the photos online anymore..Bravo to the Corps of Engineers..
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:08pm On Oct 24, 2014
denisfidha:
5 Days ago, KDF killed 5 suspected terrorists(alshabaab) after they refused to stop and opened fire on the soldiers (No soldier was killed) along the Kenya-Ethiopia border- The vehicle was later found to have 100kgs of TNT and about six suicide vests. Military Intelligence said the vehicle unsuccessfully attempted to gain entry into Kenya at another border point. Now the Westgate terrorist used the Uganda-Kenya boder to gain entry into Kenya so they wouldn't be suspected of being terrorist. Both these countries (Uganda & Ethiopia) have a presence in Somalia. I know Kenya police might be allitle bit corrupt but how comes Alshabaab is so determined to make a big dent in Kenya. Not that i wan't them to harm Ugandans or Ethiopians. Or is it because we have a free media and they know they will get front page cover even with the smallest of incidence'? Or have they just grown to really hate us!


On other related issues. News just in, KDF have killled 80 Alshabaab in a town near the one they captured last-week-but-one as they charge forward operation indian ocean

Terrorists crave attention, Kenyan been the east-africa hub for major news networks, would provide them the much sort after publicity they desire.

Westgate attack remains a grim reminder. This probably is the reason Kenya is always favoured for their cowardly acts.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:14pm On Oct 24, 2014
celeron40:
Its an impressive feat..To be honest, I expected the Army to shelve the project after the NADCEL "showcase"...To think that they developed improved versions is just impressive..I'm sure the Army will invest in the project fully..about 300-500 units will do..then we can switch the Hiluxes to logistics roles..Proforce developed an IFV..I saw some virtual images on the net some time a go..I think it was a 30mm armed IFV..can't seem to find the photos online anymore..Bravo to the Corps of Engineers..

I don't trust the army to sustain it. Armies in general are formed to fight, not to build stuff. The problem is worse with the Nigerian army. My advocacy has been for the army to sell off the blueprint to other Nigerian companies.

Proforce has a new IFV in the pipeline, the french are assiting them in the build, this info was made known by the CEO of the company. It is that build i'm highly anticipating. I hope not to be disappointed at the end.

The IGIRIGI should be Stanag Level 2, it can be upgraded to level 3.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:02pm On Oct 25, 2014
Nigerian Police FPU, Amisom

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 3:17pm On Oct 25, 2014
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Till today nobody is able to identify product name and origin of Nigerian MGLs, I suspect they maybe DICON or NA Engineers made, not sure.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 4:13pm On Oct 25, 2014
Henry120:
Nigerian Police FPU, Amisom
i ve also seen beautifully wrapped men of the Nigeria MOPOL. just that we don't have beautiful pics of the ones back home nobody is ready to snap em, some people believe they may go berserk if they catch anybody snapping them.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 4:14pm On Oct 25, 2014
Henry120:
Nigerian Police FPU, Amisom
the police here looks very mobile and alert, with rapid response capacity due to the availability of mobility (They are always shown around their vehicle. ) were they drawn from our mobile police unit?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 4:30pm On Oct 25, 2014
Henry120:


South-Africa has a well drilled military, and a sophisticated, well developed defence media. It also helps that their photos are training photos, it's one of the sure ways to build patriotism amongst the rest of the population, and build confidence in the military. So, if there's a major military exercise, even if the DOD or mainstream media do not release photos of the exercise, you are 99.9% certain that defence related media outlets would.


2) like the rest of Africa, the same problem/ soviet era mentality plaguing the Nigerian military, also affects militaries of Kenya, Uganda and the rest of Africa. Amisom is an A.U led mission, this is why photos are released, including photos of the Nigerian police FPU in Somalia. Amisom in many was has been a spectacular success for the A.U, so the A.U wants to as much as possible leverage on this success story.

3) Amisom Photos, just like the SANDF photos are professionally taken, in many ways, Amisom photos are even better. The man reason for this is, Amisom forces, especially the Ugandans embedded experienced, war photo-journalists in their operations. So, the Ugandans get 70% of Amisom photo publicity. While the Kenyans, burundians, Ethiopians et al share 30%.

The last KDF photos were top notch.

4) yes, the Nigerian navy is the only arm of the Nigerian military that releases photos, yet, even they, have also stopped. The last officially released NN photos were from Exercise African winds in November of 2013. From that time till today, the Nigerian Navy has carried out 5-6 Major training exercises (obangame 2014, Majepo, Joint Chinese anti-piracy drills, 2 Joint exercises with the British, a large combined west-African drill), yet not a single photo from the Navy. The much smaller exercise would be calling for too much from the navy.

Exercise Majepo was a live firing exercise which involved 10 naval platforms, held at the eastern naval command in calabar. Yet, nothing.

The Nigerian navy has greatly improved the reputation of the Nigerian military, and unless they revert to their active P.R, their efforts would be lost.


5) Defence companies operating in Nigeria are grossly under-reported, this is a shame. They also vary from production to maintenance, boats, vessels, APC, protective gear et al.

Inkas has a production facility in Nigeria (canada).
Streit group another Canadian company has a maintenance facility.
Proforce Defence
DICON
DICON/Proforce MOU on the production of APC's.
Arza Armouring
there's also a Chinese company that produces APC's in Nigeria, V.P Sambo alluded to this.
Mekahog
Mondant

So, this sector is under-reported. The companies should also learn how to market themselves.
oga henry120 is there anyway we cld discuss something backdoor?
Needed your opinion on a certain matter that may interest you.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 4:45pm On Oct 25, 2014
CONFIDENCE...

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:29pm On Oct 25, 2014
overhypedsteve:
the police here looks very mobile and alert, with rapid response capacity due to the availability of mobility (They are always shown around their vehicle. ) were they drawn from our mobile police unit?

Yep, they are all drawn from our mobile police unit.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:30pm On Oct 25, 2014
overhypedsteve:
oga henry120 is there anyway we cld discuss something backdoor?
Needed your opinion on a certain matter that may interest you.

I really would love to, however, it's not my policy to chat offline.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:27pm On Oct 25, 2014
saw something interesting in the pics of joint exercises between us and the french

take a look at the center vessel.

Guess what that is

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:37pm On Oct 25, 2014
SANDF geckos and hornets

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:40pm On Oct 25, 2014
moar

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:43pm On Oct 25, 2014
Upgraded R4's and compact SS-77's (now smaller than a SAW) developed for the African Warrior Programme

Last pic is the PAW 20 grenade launcher, not developed for the programe and as far as i know... dead in the water angry

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:45pm On Oct 25, 2014
Raptor 3 and Umbani stand-off munitions

Umbani is integrated but not acquired (not that we know of anyway)

Raptor 3 is nearing the end of its development cycle, and I suspect, it too will be integrated but not acquired.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:49pm On Oct 25, 2014
Pic 1: Link-ZA
Pic 2: MilanAAD (best in Africa)
Pic 3: infographic
Pic 4: Mini-guns acquired under a super dodgy "dont ask dont tell" deal

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:52pm On Oct 25, 2014
some randoms

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:58pm On Oct 25, 2014
randoms

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