StarBoard:
@rationalmind,
Please dont stress yourself.

We already know what they will say. The threads in question need no further inquisition.

If he likes let him edit or delete his posts. We already know what has taken place.

Why wont he stage miracle when his oga at the top has made a name and living doing same?

Lol, Jo didn't take time to properly learn the art

StarBoard:

DING!!!!
How will they listen?
In their minds as "pastors" they cannot subject themselves to counsel from "lesser" or "common" folks like us. Their proud, arrogant disposition would not conform to the meek and lowly estate of those of us who cannot or are not "pastors".

He goes ahead to stake money like a gambler, something that should be unheard of in Christian circles just to prove his point on a false claim.

For me the more I think about it Joe is not even worth a listen. He is a gluttonous deceptive and carnal charlatan. if joeagbaje is a pastor then I'm better off by myself.

3 million likes my G

rationalmind:


Lol, Jo didn't take time to properly learn the art

graduated without certificate n dam license.

rationalmind:


Lol, Jo didn't take time to properly learn the art

He is still a learner.
Let jerry curl master school him properly in the art of deception.
if na to defend tithe collection na dat one him go sabi.

flourishG:
now we talking. 500000 ain't no dam joke. He boasted about it though.

I happen to be an igbo person, and you know the popular belief that the igbo man doesn't play pranks with money issues right? . So while you guys are busy digging the issue, let me see how we can get SirJohn his money

SalC:
I happen to be an igbo person, and you know the popular belief that the igbo man doesn't play pranks with money issues right? . So while you guys are busy digging the issue, let me see how we can get SirJohn his money

If he can't give da dam 500000 that's another dent on his integrity.

i'm back... Candour, i saw your post...why exactly should i apologize to sirjohn?

StarBoard:

He is still a learner.
Let jerry curl master school him properly in the art of deception.
if na to defend tithe collection na dat one him go sabi.

Na wah oh. 20 mins don turn to 40.

This is turning into robust defence #2. #1 is still pending after nearly 18 months.

Gombs:
i'm back... Candour, i saw your post...why exactly should i apologize to sirjohn?

If u ain't dumb as I suppose u read d reasons stated.

SalC:
Same question I've been asking.....but your answer though

I know how hard I work to make money.

It got to a point I even find it difficult to spend the money on myself cos I'm always conscious of the stress I went through before making it and the stress it'll take me to make another.

Here I am, reading about someone who's willing to stake half a million on claims he never verified. Only one thing comes to mind. He never struggled to make that money.

Considering the nature of his work, where else will he get such money? Tithes, donations and the likes

I still remember the fake healing of his boss in south africa.

All this healing what you see in the internet from this pentecoust/charismatic pastors are fraud.

rationalmind:


I know how hard I work to make money.

It got to a point I even find it difficult to spend the money on myself cos I'm always conscious of the stress I went through before getting it and the stress it'll take me to make another.

Here am I reading about someone who's willing to stake half a million on claims he never verified, only one thing comes to mind. He never struggled to make that money.

Considering the nature of his work, where else will he get such money? Tithes, donations and the likes

Thank you for this because moste pastors didnot know how hard it is.

1000000000 likes

MY FULL RESPONSE

i will summarize . Jeff testifies of being healed of HIV. Actually That's about 2years ago or 3. I asked for his medical records he said he could get it within the week. And I assumed he had. I sought his consent on the testimony being shared online . He consented . I asked for the editing of the video .which was done . And a Clip from from the particular programme which Jeff mentioned. Was presented which actually fit Jeff story and also looked like him to a great extent. Except that the other guy looks very sickly and lean which could also be attributed to the ailment . But to be very sure . The video link was sent to jeff on whatsapp to verify if he watched the video and if he was the one being prayed for And he affirmed , so that clears me of any deliberate manipulation . I can send the screen shot of the whatsapp conversation to Gombs if he could post it for me. Sir john also saw the chat because I posted the screen shot to him also.That's that about the Video.

Then concerning his healing. Noe Somebody may ask why i didn't insist on seeing the medical report.the answer is simple I know beyond doubt that the person I prayed for in that video was healed . So the issue is was it Jeff?. And Jeff confirmed he was. So I had double assurance . The witness of the spirit in me on the day of prayer and Jeff affirmation. My shock came when Jeff's pastor watched the video and said it's not Jeff and he gave the video to Jeff and said Jeff said he's not sure it's him. I gave the development feedback to Sirjohn that they said it's not him. And Sirjohn told me that Jeff had admitted to him before also that he watched the video and that he was the one. Sirjohn even posted the audio of the conversation. And he warned that he doesn't trust Jeff .

On why I was not keen on being the one to present the medical evidence . Firstly Because some people here will claim it's manipulated . I prefer the investigators to talk with the testifier and ask him for proof of his healing . And also because of my previous discussion with Sirjohn. He had ask if I can present any miracle through prayer ,he would travell there to investigate and talk with the Neighbours and relative and medicals . So I left the investigation for Him.

So I gave the challenge. For john to find out if this miracle was staged or a fraud as they claimed. I gave the phone number of the guy with the understanding that he had his papers now. When john told me the guy didn't have them , I called him to ask. He said he is now living in delta. And he is out of job. He didn't even have money to go and get the records. I asked for his account no. I sent 30,000 to him.and later another 10,000. Sirjohn will bear witness that the guy sometimes doesn't pick calls for days . I dealt with john with all transparency . Jeff claimed he got his doctors report from of of the doctors who had been transferred to Owerri. But he said they were robbed on the way and he had to go back and start all over. I agree to still give him even if it's 100,000 . To avoid. Story. Sir John was even warning me . That the brother may be taking me for a ride. While we are still waiting for that . I introduced his pastor to john who knew about the history of his ailment .

Finally I had to get his pastor and his ex Fiancee to go to one of the hospitals to get the record of his first test of HIV positive which was sent to Sirjohn. There were 3 hospitals where he said he had test. They've not been able to get the one for HIV negative. He was to go to owerri again . His pastor finally concluded Jeff should do another test now. And he later called me that Jeff travelled. I've called him and sent message . So I'm waiting for the other reports and feed back. And he finally present them . They should be well Scrutinized for any falsehood. And there need be . Jeff can be compelled to do fresh test. If there's anything else I remember I will re post. That's it for now.

Gombs, I'm sending the screen shot of Jeff affirmation of the video on whatsapp to you now. Kindly post it for all to see

flourishG:
If he can't give da dam 500000 that's another dent on his integrity.

I don't want to believe he will try not to pay, am almost sure he must have set aside that money before now, all he has to do now is give SirJohn the said doh

common sense theory

1. if Joagbaje had wanted to fool anyone, he surely would have forged a document.

2. if he was fraud, he would not have given Jeff's details and forgot to tell Jeff the scripts to play.

3. The only clear thing here is folks blowing stuffs out of proportions.


i would advice Jo to put up an explanation ie his side of the story, then unfollow the thread... let them call a dog a bad name and hang i for it.

Joagbaje:
Gombs, I'm sending the screen shot of Jeff affirmation of the video on whatsapp to you now. Kindly post it for all to see

ok.. i await them. You know you don't have to convice anyone here, shey?

Joagbaje:

MY FULL RESPONSE

i will summarize . Jeff testifies of being healed of HIV. Actually That's about 2years ago or 3. I asked for his medical records he said he could get it within the week. And I assumed he had. I sought his consent on the testimony being shared online . He consented . I asked for the editing of the video .which was done . And a Clip from from the particular programme which Jeff mentioned. Was presented which actually fit Jeff story and also looked like him to a great extent. Except that the other guy looks very sickly and lean which could also be attributed to the ailment . But to be very sure . The video link was sent to jeff on whatsapp to verify if he watched the video and if he was the one being prayed for And he affirmed , so that clears me of any deliberate manipulation . I can send the screen shot of the whatsapp conversation to Gombs if he could post it for me. Sir john also saw the chat because I posted the screen shot to him also.That's that about the Video.

Then concerning his healing. Noe Somebody may ask why i didn't insist on seeing the medical report.the answer is simple I know beyond doubt that the person I prayed for in that video was healed . So the issue is was it Jeff?. And Jeff confirmed he was. So I had double assurance . The witness of the spirit in me on the day of prayer and Jeff affirmation. I was not keen on being the one to present the medical evidence . Firstly Because some people here will claim it's manipulated . I prefer the investigators to talk with the testifier and ask him for proof of his healing . And also because of my previous discussion with Sirjohn. He had ask if I can present any miracle through prayer ,he would travell there to investigate and talk with the Neighbours and relative and medicals . So I left the investigation for Him.

So I gave the challenge. For john to find out if this miracle was staged or a fraud as they claimed. I gave the phone number of the guy with the understanding that he had his papers now. When john told me the guy didn't have them , I called him to ask. He said he is now living in delta. And he is out of job. He didn't even have money to go and get the records. I asked for his account no. I sent 30,000 to him.and later another 10,000. Sirjohn will bear witness that the guy sometimes doesn't pick calls for days . I dealt with john with all transparency . Jeff claimed he got his doctors report from of of the doctors who had been transferred to Owerri. But he said they were robbed on the way and he had to go back and start all over. I agree to still give him even if it's 100,000 . To avoid. Story. Sir John was even warning me . That the brother may be taking me for a ride. While we are still waiting for that . I introduced his pastor to john who knew about the history of his ailment .

Finally I had to get his pastor and his ex Fiancee to go to one of the hospitals to get the record of his first test of HIV positive which was sent to Sirjohn. There were 3 hospitals where he said he had test. They've not been able to get the one for HIV negative. He was to go to owerri again . His pastor finally concluded Jeff should do another test now. And he later called me that Jeff travelled. I've called him and sent message . So I'm waiting for the other reports and feed back. And he finally present them . They should be well Scrutinized for any falsehood. And there need be . Jeff can be compelled to do fresh test. If there's anything else I remember I will re post. That's it for now.

Thanks alooooooot jare.. now please just watch them from afar, with a grin.

Joagbaje:

MY FULL RESPONSE

i will summarize . Jeff testifies of being healed of HIV. Actually That's about 2years ago or 3. I asked for his medical records he said he could get it within the week. And I assumed he had. I sought his consent on the testimony being shared online . He consented . I asked for the editing of the video .which was done . And a Clip from from the particular programme which Jeff mentioned. Was presented which actually fit Jeff story and also looked like him to a great extent. Except that the other guy looks very sickly and lean which could also be attributed to the ailment . But to be very sure . The video link was sent to jeff on whatsapp to verify if he watched the video and if he was the one being prayed for And he affirmed , so that clears me of any deliberate manipulation . I can send the screen shot of the whatsapp conversation to Gombs if he could post it for me. Sir john also saw the chat because I posted the screen shot to him also.That's that about the Video.

Then concerning his healing. Noe Somebody may ask why i didn't insist on seeing the medical report.the answer is simple I know beyond doubt that the person I prayed for in that video was healed . So the issue is was it Jeff?. And Jeff confirmed he was. So I had double assurance . The witness of the spirit in me on the day of prayer and Jeff affirmation. I was not keen on being the one to present the medical evidence . Firstly Because some people here will claim it's manipulated . I prefer the investigators to talk with the testifier and ask him for proof of his healing . And also because of my previous discussion with Sirjohn. He had ask if I can present any miracle through prayer ,he would travell there to investigate and talk with the Neighbours and relative and medicals . So I left the investigation for Him.

So I gave the challenge. For john to find out if this miracle was staged or a fraud as they claimed. I gave the phone number of the guy with the understanding that he had his papers now. When john told me the guy didn't have them , I called him to ask. He said he is now living in delta. And he is out of job. He didn't even have money to go and get the records. I asked for his account no. I sent 30,000 to him.and later another 10,000. Sirjohn will bear witness that the guy sometimes doesn't pick calls for days . I dealt with john with all transparency . Jeff claimed he got his doctors report from of of the doctors who had been transferred to Owerri. But he said they were robbed on the way and he had to go back and start all over. I agree to still give him even if it's 100,000 . To avoid. Story. Sir John was even warning me . That the brother may be taking me for a ride. While we are still waiting for that . I introduced his pastor to john who knew about the history of his ailment .

Finally I had to get his pastor and his ex Fiancee to go to one of the hospitals to get the record of his first test of HIV positive which was sent to Sirjohn. There were 3 hospitals where he said he had test. They've not been able to get the one for HIV negative. He was to go to owerri again . His pastor finally concluded Jeff should do another test now. And he later called me that Jeff travelled. I've called him and sent message . So I'm waiting for the other reports and feed back. And he finally present them . They should be well Scrutinized for any falsehood. And there need be . Jeff can be compelled to do fresh test. If there's anything else I remember I will re post. That's it for now.

those who have not lost their senses will analysis da response line by line. Watch people out n see

this story is so sweet o. eyes, ears, everything opened to receive this information.

Gombs:



ok.. i await them. You know you don't have to convice anyone here, shey?

Really? Never knew u r a waste to your generation until u made da statement above. Really? He don't hv to convince anyone? Dammm

nep2ra:


You know, just because you can string a few sentences together doesn't mean you are smarter or more intelligent.

I think it's time for you to take a seat and drink some Kool Aid while you watch proceedings.

Don't take the restraint and patience of some of us to mean stupidity.

Adjust!

This is unbelievable!!!

You guys move from one rant to another and all that is needed are simply an accusation and the evidence to support it. If you say he is fraudulent, guy prove it na.

https://www.nairaland.com/1881318/joagbaje-right-ebola-jesus-cure

read this because the orginal post was deleted when joagbaye want to show us that he could heal Ebola

Gombs:
common sense theory

1. if Joagbaje had wanted to fool anyone, he surely would have forged a document.

2. if he was fraud, he would not have given Jeff's details and forgot to tell Jeff the scripts to play.

3. The only clear thing here is folks blowing stuffs out of proportions.


i would advice Jo to put up an explanation ie his side of the story, then unfollow the thread... let them call a dog a bad name and hang i for it.

tell da cock n bullshit story to unreasonable kids.not everyone on planet earth can be fooled dude. God is behind exposing every falsehood as u can see

Joagbaje you are a liar. Now it has turned out to be 2 years since after the miracle. Right from the moment you posted that clip, you, yourself can bear witness that I spotted the incoherence in that video clip. I told you that the guy on the flash back was not the same. I also noticed how the guy (Mr Jeff) was quoting some many hospitals and I watched the expression on your face (that's not part of the script). Can you remember what you said you scumbag, can you? You told us may God curse you if it was false and that our pride is eating us up, you dirty fool. Remember how you shove us off?

Joagbaje, you have never healed anybody your entire life. All you do is stage a show. Now you want to deny your actor. How about the other guy on the video clip - what he healed too? Do you want me to investigate that too? You are lucky your church is in Bayelsa, if it was in Lagos - I will walk up to your sunday service and tell your congregation what a liar and a fraud you are. I shall not come alone.

Joagbaje, healing/miracle is not about laying hands and pushing people. You know nothing about it. You are a fraud and a liar and I shall give you no rest on nairaland till you leave this place.

Joagbaje:

MY FULL RESPONSE

i will summarize . Jeff testifies of being healed of HIV. Actually That's about 2years ago or 3. I asked for his medical records he said he could get it within the week. And I assumed he had. I sought his consent on the testimony being shared online . He consented . I asked for the editing of the video .which was done . And a Clip from from the particular programme which Jeff mentioned. Was presented which actually fit Jeff story and also looked like him to a great extent. Except that the other guy looks very sickly and lean which could also be attributed to the ailment . But to be very sure . The video link was sent to jeff on whatsapp to verify if he watched the video and if he was the one being prayed for And he affirmed , so that clears me of any deliberate manipulation . I can send the screen shot of the whatsapp conversation to Gombs if he could post it for me. Sir john also saw the chat because I posted the screen shot to him also.That's that about the Video.

Then concerning his healing. Noe Somebody may ask why i didn't insist on seeing the medical report.the answer is simple I know beyond doubt that the person I prayed for in that video was healed . So the issue is was it Jeff?. And Jeff confirmed he was. So I had double assurance . The witness of the spirit in me on the day of prayer and Jeff affirmation. I was not keen on being the one to present the medical evidence . Firstly Because some people here will claim it's manipulated . I prefer the investigators to talk with the testifier and ask him for proof of his healing . And also because of my previous discussion with Sirjohn. He had ask if I can present any miracle through prayer ,he would travell there to investigate and talk with the Neighbours and relative and medicals . So I left the investigation for Him.

So I gave the challenge. For john to find out if this miracle was staged or a fraud as they claimed. I gave the phone number of the guy with the understanding that he had his papers now. When john told me the guy didn't have them , I called him to ask. He said he is now living in delta. And he is out of job. He didn't even have money to go and get the records. I asked for his account no. I sent 30,000 to him.and later another 10,000. Sirjohn will bear witness that the guy sometimes doesn't pick calls for days . I dealt with john with all transparency . Jeff claimed he got his doctors report from of of the doctors who had been transferred to Owerri. But he said they were robbed on the way and he had to go back and start all over. I agree to still give him even if it's 100,000 . To avoid. Story. Sir John was even warning me . That the brother may be taking me for a ride. While we are still waiting for that . I introduced his pastor to john who knew about the history of his ailment .

Finally I had to get his pastor and his ex Fiancee to go to one of the hospitals to get the record of his first test of HIV positive which was sent to Sirjohn. There were 3 hospitals where he said he had test. They've not been able to get the one for HIV negative. He was to go to owerri again . His pastor finally concluded Jeff should do another test now. And he later called me that Jeff travelled. I've called him and sent message . So I'm waiting for the other reports and feed back. And he finally present them . They should be well Scrutinized for any falsehood. And there need be . Jeff can be compelled to do fresh test. If there's anything else I remember I will re post. That's it for now.

As far as I am concerned your post is irrelevant. It is impossible for any right thinking individual to read through sirjohn's exposé and conclude based on that evidence that you were fraudulent. At best the only thing you were guilty of (if I can tag it guilt) was the fact that you believed this so called Jeff.

striktlymi:


As far as I am concerned your post is irrelevant. It is impossible for any right thinking individual to read through sirjohn's exposé and conclude based on that evidence that you were fraudulent. At best the only thing you were guilty of (if I can tag it guilt) was the fact that you believed this so called Jeff.

Jeff did not act on his own accord. He is an accomplice to Joagbaje. I know their tricks and they are so many of them in this country deceiving and confusing gullible people.

Can people go back to that clip and watch it again. Forget about Jeff, watch the 2nd guy and please put on a logical mindset.

Boss13:


Jeff did not act on his own accord. His is an accomplice to Joagbaje. I know their tricks and they are so many of them in this country deceiving and confusing gullible people.

I have no problem with the above accusation.

All I ask is for you to back it up with evidence.

Anyone can accuse any other of wrongdoing but not everyone can prove it.

If you have evidence, kindly share it.

this is a lesson the world can learn from. fake pastor everywhere. oga seun frontpage abeg. abi e never reach?

nora544:
https://www.nairaland.com/1881318/joagbaje-right-ebola-jesus-cure

read this because the orginal post was deleted when joagbaye want to show us that he could heal Ebola

I remember him saying that. Joagbaje can you heal Ebola These !doitic guys continue to amaze me.

Joagbaje you owe N500,000 to SirJohn. Kindly remit the money to him please. You can go on deceiving people, but I am so sure in afterlife your situation will be terrible. I no curse you - it is law of Karma (you sow what you reap), you cannot escape it. We determine our own fate.