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Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 8:45am On Nov 20, 2014
vooks:
In Acts 2:35, Peter called Yahweh KYRIOS. Do you think they were IGNORANT of the things you are claiming here by substituting the spiritual name of God?

it was written as kyrios because yeshua and Yahweh could not be spoken effectively in Greek,,but am sure a man like Paul who worked miracles would have spoken the name Yahweh and yeshua
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by paxonel(m): 8:47am On Nov 20, 2014
Unibenstudent:
all those names are not his spiritual name,those are names which man decide to call him,,but Yahweh calls himself Yahweh..who then has right to call the most high by another name..occultic people respect the name of Yahweh,yhwh the sacred tetragrammation ..do ur research
there is nothing like spiritual name
it is not name that is important to God, what is important is identification. if you identify with God by accepting Jesus you are in the spirit
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 8:50am On Nov 20, 2014
If Greek was not effective in carrying the names, don't you think the MOST intelligent thing is to have the New Testament written in Hebrews? Was it impossible to have NT in Hebrews and have God demand that we learn the same so as to preserve His name? this way, He would have preserved the 'original' names in their full power and prevented much corruption we are seeing cheesy
Unibenstudent:
it was written as kyrios because yeshua and Yahweh could not be spoken effectively in Greek,,but am sure a man like Paul who worked miracles would have spoken the name Yahweh and yeshua
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 8:52am On Nov 20, 2014
paxonel:

there is nothing like spiritual name
it is not name that is important to God, what is important is identification. if you identify with God by accepting Jesus you are in the spirit
anyway if men of God like oristsejafor who identify with name of Jesus and fly with private jet and uses the jet to trasfer Nigerian funds abroad ..I must say all yee. Users of the name of Jesus are dooommmmmeDddDdD
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 8:54am On Nov 20, 2014
You need to brush up on your history. Ignorance is very expensive.

A simple exercise.
1. When was the name Jesus FIRST used? Give a definite date/century/year and PROOF
2. What name was used for Jesus before? Give evidence for this and don't regurgitate your church manuals
Unibenstudent:
Constantine the pagan king who joined mithraism to Christianity to form Roman catholicism ,we all agree that all modern churches have their root in Roman catholicism,,Constantine told people in Rome to figure out the name of the god that Romans should use ,because Rome at that time had so many gods and it was causing confusion ,so after much delibration ,hesus was combined with Julius ceaser to form Jesus ..that gave birth to the name Jesus,,,that is the anti Christ name..and with that name Roman Catholics murdered many people and sin rose further and further
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by paxonel(m): 8:57am On Nov 20, 2014
Unibenstudent:
anyway if men of God like oristsejafor who identify with name of Jesus and fly with private jet and uses the jet to trasfer Nigerian funds abroad ..I must say all yee. Users of the name of Jesus are dooommmmmeDddDdD
not just only users of the name of Jesus, everybody on earth are doomed, because everybody equally comit sin.
But as many of us who believe, we are not doomed, life continues after death
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 8:59am On Nov 20, 2014
vooks:
If Greek was not effective in carrying the names, don't you think the MOST intelligent thing is to have the New Testament written in Hebrews? Was it impossible to have NT in Hebrews and have God demand that we learn the same so as to preserve His name? this way, He would have preserved the 'original' names in their full power and prevented much corruption we are seeing cheesy
Paul was trying his best to pass the gospel to the Greeks ,so hence he uses Greek,,but the kyrious is the name the Greek calll God even before spiritual intervention of Paul..those with close contact with Paul would have heard him say Yahweh and yeshua,remember the bible is too small to contain the life and times of the men of Yahweh!!!!!b!!
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 9:01am On Nov 20, 2014
vooks:
You need to brush up on your history. Ignorance is very expensive.

A simple exercise.
1. When was the name Jesus FIRST used? Give a definite date/century/year and PROOF
2. What name was used for Jesus before? Give evidence for this and don't regurgitate your church manuals
yeshua who is all powerful and omnipotent knows that satan is the one hiding behind the name Jesus ,so he is very annoyed ..
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 9:03am On Nov 20, 2014
paxonel:

not just only users of the name of Jesus, everybody on earth are doomed, because everybody equally comit sin
but those who did not identify with the mark of the beast eg name of Jesus and others will be pardoned
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 9:04am On Nov 20, 2014
You do not make sense at all.
New testament was not written by Paul alone.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter among others ALL wrote in Greek because Greek was the commonest language of the day. And they were not writing to Greeks alone, they wrote to their fellow Jews in Greek.
The Bible is sufficient for ALL DOCTRINES. If you need something else to construct your doctrine, you are deluded and in danger of hellfire
Unibenstudent:
Paul was trying his best to pass the gospel to the Greeks ,so hence he uses Greek,,but the kyrious is the name the Greek calll God even before spiritual intervention of Paul..those with close contact with Paul would have heard him say Yahweh and yeshua,remember the bible is too small to contain the life and times of the men of Yahweh!!!!!b!!
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 9:06am On Nov 20, 2014
I draw my doctrine from scriptures not from hallucinations and fantasies of men. I may as well dream that Jacob Zuma is antichrist and Mandela the image of the Beast cheesy
Demonstrate from scriptures of zip it
Unibenstudent:
yeshua who is all powerful and omnipotent knows that satan is the one hiding behind the name Jesus ,so he is very annoyed ..
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 9:07am On Nov 20, 2014
vooks:
You do not make sense at all.
New testament was not written by Paul alone.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter among others ALL wrote in Greek because Greek was the commonest language of the day. And they were not writing to Greeks alone, they wrote to their fellow Jews in Greek.
The Bible is sufficient for ALL DOCTRINES. If you need something else to construct your doctrine, you are deluded and in danger of hellfire
anyway,nobody has right to pronounce the judgement of hell exceot yeshua so do not judge unless your judgement on the last day is gonna be brutal,,so do not arrogate the seat of judgement to yourself that is blasphemous
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by paxonel(m): 9:08am On Nov 20, 2014
Unibenstudent:
but those who did not identify with the mark of the beast eg name of Jesus and others will be pardoned
we christians don't see the name of Jesus as mark of the beast, we see other religions and atheism as mark of the beast.
so life continues for us after death, but unbelievers will die and fade away
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 9:13am On Nov 20, 2014
Adding to the Scriptures attracts eternal condemnation. AM not judging, just telling you what scriptures says wink
Unibenstudent:
anyway,nobody has right to pronounce the judgement of hell exceot yeshua so do not judge unless your judgement on the last day is gonna be brutal,,so do not arrogate the seat of judgement to yourself that is blasphemous
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 9:15am On Nov 20, 2014
vooks:
I draw my doctrine from scriptures not from hallucinations and fantasies of men. I may as well dream that Jacob Zuma is antichrist and Mandela the image of the Beast cheesy
Demonstrate from scriptures of zip it
Mandela died but the the corrupted name of yeshua which is Jesus did not die that is to say that some principalities and powers are using the name but don't worry ,Yahweh has said that there will come a time where his people will come out from somewhere and call him ,,so I MR chris will use the name Yahweh and yeshua even when I am severely persecuted
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 9:16am On Nov 20, 2014
When was Jesus name corrupted?
What was his name before corruption?

Spend time on scriptures instead of useless manmade doctrines you don't even understand
Unibenstudent:
Mandela died but the the corrupted name of yeshua which is Jesus did not die that is to say that some principalities and powers are using the name but don't worry ,Yahweh has said that there will come a time where his people will come out from somewhere and call him ,,so I MR chris will use the name Yahweh and yeshua even when I am severely persecuted
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 9:18am On Nov 20, 2014
vooks:
Adding to the Scriptures attracts eternal condemnation. AM not judging, just telling you what scriptures says wink
did u know what that passage meant let me tell u , it said those who added to scriptures not add to bible,the bible in circulation today is not complete,the council of nicea screened out imporetant scriptures eg the book of Enoch,jubilees ând so many others..please do ur research ,read some scriptures from the dead sea scrolls..the scriptures are much and some are even lost
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 9:21am On Nov 20, 2014
vooks:

When was Jesus name corrupted?
What was his name before corruption?

Spend time on scriptures instead of useless manmade doctrines you don't even understand
the son of Yahweh has only one name and his name is yeshua not Jesus and the rest are his titles not name,,one of yeshua title is prince of peace ,,but his only name is yeshua..
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 9:21am On Nov 20, 2014
NONE of those books you quote were accepted as inspired by the early church. The 27 books were accepted BEFORE 100AD. That is the difference. History is stubborn my brother

Invest in studying scriptures and not absurd illogical teachings that can't stand scrutiny
Unibenstudent:
did u know what that passage meant let me tell u , it said those who added to scriptures not add to bible,the bible in circulation today is not complete,the council of nicea screened out imporetant scriptures eg the book of Enoch,jubilees ând so many others..please do ur research ,read some scriptures from the dead sea scrolls..the scriptures are much and some are even lost
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 9:26am On Nov 20, 2014
vooks:
NONE of those books you quote were accepted as inspired by the early church. The 27 books were accepted BEFORE 100AD. That is the difference. History is stubborn my brother

Invest in studying scriptures and not absurd illogical teachings that can't stand scrutiny
anyway I am studying it,,but I will not fall prey and use d name of Jesus..I fell once and I will never fall again,,,fake pastors who use name of Jesus eg:adulterer chris oyahkhilome,billionaire pastor David oyedepo and Enoch adeboye and cultist Johnson suleiman and occultisyt Lazarus mouka,,by the fruits u shall know them,let's not forget that all Roman Catholics who use also use Jesus are Satanists in disguise..
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 9:28am On Nov 20, 2014
paxonel:

we christians don't see the name of Jesus as mark of the beast, we see other religions and atheism as mark of the beast.
so life continues for us after death, but unbelievers will die and fade away
the number 1 mark is the name Jesus be not surprised on my free time I will prove it
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 9:35am On Nov 20, 2014
Good my brother.
The 27 books were subjected to the stringest of all tests and were accepted as INSPIRED long before Catholic Church canonized them. So it is wrong to imagine that Roman Catholicism gave us the New Testament. At best, they compiled them together.
Read this;
http://www.bible.ca/canon.htm

Once again, there has been sin and hypocrisy in the church ever since Pentecost. So sin in church has nothing to do with the name Jesus, a name you have no idea when it was coined. Go slow on manmade traditions and learn to question EVERYTHING you are taught. Ask for evidence and do your own research especially on history. History is stubborn

Unibenstudent:
anyway I am studying it,,but I will not fall prey and use d name of Jesus..I fell once and I will never fall again,,,fake pastors who use name of Jesus eg:adulterer chris oyahkhilome,billionaire pastor David oyedepo and Enoch adeboye and cultist Johnson suleiman and occultisyt Lazarus mouka,,by the fruits u shall know them,let's not forget that all Roman Catholics who use also use Jesus are Satanists in disguise..
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 9:45am On Nov 20, 2014
vooks:
Good my brother.
The 27 books were subjected to the stringest of all tests and were accepted as INSPIRED long before Catholic Church canonized them. So it is wrong to imagine that Roman Catholicism gave us the New Testament. At best, they compiled them together.
Read this;
http://www.bible.ca/canon.htm

Once again, there has been sin and hypocrisy in the church ever since Pentecost. So sin in church has nothing to do with the name Jesus, a name you have no idea when it was coined. Go slow on manmade traditions and learn to question EVERYTHING you are taught. Ask for evidence and do your own research especially on history. History is stubborn

the subjections were done but there were mistakes eg the book of Enoch was so spiritual yet it was not included
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 9:49am On Nov 20, 2014
Name books you believe were wrongfully omitted and I will give you credible reasons they were omitted.
But before that, please read the link I shared in depth


Shalom wink
Unibenstudent:
the subjections were done but there were mistakes eg the book of Enoch was so spiritual yet it was not included
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by iamord(m): 10:07am On Nov 20, 2014
Unibenstudent:
Could it be some satanic consPiracy to hide the truth ,,because THE LORD is not a name but YAHwEH is Gods name ,y avoid the set apart and glorified name of El shaddai(God almighty) .
And also why do pastors use the name Jesus when Jesus was not even an English man but was a semitic ,meaning he was born in an aramaic and Hebrew setting and his name was YESHUA meaning salvation read Matthew 1:21 ( And she shall bring forth a son, and thou
shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save
his people from their sins.) the name Jesus has no meaning but yeshua means salvation in Hebrew..

Because the so called pastors are brainwashed with brainwashed doctrines. And pass it down to a brainwashed followers.. Ogun, ifa, budah,horus have remained the same. cos of the power and potency in the name. When give them another name it becomes a scam and another entity behind it

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Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 10:10am On Nov 20, 2014
iamord:


Because the so called pastors are brainwashed with brainwashed doctrines. And pass it down to a brainwashed followers.. Ogun, ifa, budah,horus have remained the same. cos of the power and potency in the name. When give them another name it becomes a scam and another entity behind it
u are wise
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by iamord(m): 10:11am On Nov 20, 2014
Cutehector4u:
how will i knw..why r u concerned wit things that ur brain cant even carry.... Were u with Blessed virgin mary wen the Angel of God appeared to her and said his name shall be Jesus? That all authority in heaven and on earth and under the earth has been given to him and that at the mention of the name jesus, every kneel must bow. Doesnt this tell u that the lord has beared this name before the begining of time? Well if u still want to knw wat language is Jesus, then its a heavenly language... I will not repeat mysef again on this matter.. End of discussio

U just displayed signs that you are brainwashed
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 10:12am On Nov 20, 2014
iamord:


U just displayed signs that you are brainwashed
thank you.... Now get the fvvck out of my post...
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by iamord(m): 10:14am On Nov 20, 2014
Unibenstudent:
u are wise
Thank u. Let people keep deceiving their self. Your brain is for u to think. If you feel something is not right you ask and find out. There is not harm in that . But its only brainwashed people that we defend what they don't know. Sadly majority of the population is like that. I don't follow the crowd
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by iamord(m): 10:18am On Nov 20, 2014
Cutehector4u:
thank you.... Now get the fvvck out of my post...

Lol. The truth is bitter and hard to swallow.. Am telling u not because I send u..but pointing out your. Glaring stupidity.. U oyo nigga!!..
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by Nobody: 10:19am On Nov 20, 2014
iamord:


Lol. The truth is bitter and hard to swallow.. Am telling u not because I send u..but pointing out your. Glaring stupidity.. U oyo nigga!!..
my dear.. Hell needs u badly
Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by iamord(m): 10:30am On Nov 20, 2014
Cutehector4u:
my dear.. Hell needs u badly

Haha.. What's the big deal.. when satan was prepared self contain in the deepest part of hell for u.. He is working on getting your other like minds. I mean what's the use of pursuing a pig that is already in your cage.

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