adeolu17:
in a situation someone discovered that ur so call wife has been shitting on u before married and they still continued after marriage and other eventually gave birth to the each other.and she still want to stay in the marriage. So what can some do

Well, its up to you to decide what to do.

It is possible to sort things out and continue as married. It really is up to you.

But if you seek a divorce you would be in order. But at the same time if she demonstrates that she is repentant and genuinely so, then you have a choice to make.

Zakkyoz:
Use your instinct. Quit when you are fed up. Marriage is designed to be enjoyed and not endured.

Nothing like instinct! Marriage was ordain by God and it should be made honorable and bed undefiled, but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge -Heb 13:4; don't go into marriage with intention of divorce cos as true believer "not christian" your thought should be joy towards the married not divorce.

"But I say unto you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery..... Mathew 5:32". So as a believer you are not suppose to divorce your wife under any circumstances unless unfaithfulness. Any word written in the bible is a guide to Godly living so don't in anyway use your instinct to justify your errs 2Tim 3:16.

This is why I am so careful when it comes to who I am to marry cos I don't wanna make a choice of regret. Your wife will be a great determinant of your destiny to be fulfilled, so pray and watch as you desire a wife called "the virtues woman".

My take anyway.

Agnesgrace:
Clearly stated in the bible according to your aforementioned points ; death and adultery only... Marriage is great indeed therefore divine love should exist to avoid all problem between husband and wife.

though it is not in the bible, I would add domestic violence to that list. I am very sure God would understand cause he values our lives so much and would be angry with us if we knowingly put our lives in danger. I have seen and hrd a lot of women stay in abusive marriages and can't leave cause "divorce is wrong" until they almost lost their lives or got deformed all in the name of marriage. May God keep us away from this but i would advise anybody in this situation to run and seek for a divorce.

aisha2:
Twisting the bible again. Biblically nothing like till.death do you part those are roman vows.
The reason God said " I hate divorce" was because the men of Israel had hard hearts and would marry and divorce their wives on flimsy grounds. Hence Jesus gave conditions for divorce just to moderate it.

There is room and grounds for divorce is the bible and no divorce is not a sin.
Do we not all have one Father[b]? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?

Malachi 2 from verse 11

11 Judah has been unfaithful. A detestable thing has been committed in Israel and in Jerusalem: Judah has desecrated the sanctuary the Lord loves by marrying women who worship a foreign god. 12 As for the man who does this, whoever he may be, may the Lord remove him from the tents of Jacob[c]—even though he brings an offering to the Lord Almighty.

13 Another thing you do: You flood the Lord’s altar with tears. You weep and wail because he no longer looks with favor on your offerings or accepts them with pleasure from your hands. 14 You ask, “Why?” It is because the Lord is the witness between you and the wife of your youth. You have been unfaithful to her, though she is your partner, the wife of your marriage covenant.

15 Has not the one God made you? You belong to him in body and spirit. And what does the one God seek? Godly offspring.[d] So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful to the wife of your youth.

16 “The man who hates and divorces his wife,” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “does violence to the one he should protect,”[e] says the Lord Almighty.

So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.

Is okotie ur pastor?

enairaprof:
For we christians who are followers of Christ, divorce is not an option. Till death do us apart was the vow that was made. We are not permitted to renege on our vows. Jesus said Moses because of your hardness of heart said you should divorce but FROM THE BEGINNING IT WAS NOT SO. Someone said, marriage is to be enjoyed and not endured. This is not true as there is need for tolerance and endurance. In fact, our love for our spouse is tested during difficult times. Let's take for example, the first family in the world: Adam and Eve. With the atrocities and problems that Eve caused Adam such that Adam was cursed and sent out of the garden of Eden yet he never divorce his wife. If Adam did not divorce Eve after the great error that brought horror to his destiny then none of us should consider divorce as an option. I speak only to all of us who are desirous of making it to God's kingdom.

True!

But consider what the implication of infidelity is.

Marriage is a blood covenant. Infidelity means you have broken that covenant and defiled the vessel of the covenant. Moreover, sexual sin is a sin against Man's body. All other forms of sin is outside of the body. So if a body has been defiled, it therefore means that the covenant of marriage has been corrupted. And because that covenant has been corrupted, it should either be repaired or be done away with.

The covenant that God made with the nation of Israel was defiled and corrupted several times. But God kept repairing it, forgiving the Israelites of their unfaithfulness. In time however, that covenant was done away with because Israel was indignant and stubborn, and replaced with a new one.

idoncome:

this is what tallesty was trying to say. in catholic church it is called annulment( not divorce). the marriage can be annuled and the couples go their way cos the marriage was never valid(cannonically).

What you are trying to say is that divorce in catholic church is called annulment.**noted** but dis is not about catholic church,its about being a christain,church don't save people,dat is what we in the catholic church fail to understand,cannot make me to endure a violent marrage all cos of doctrines and all**

Bible says NO MORE TWO BUT ONE, marrying is like saying GOOD or BAD we are together. Except on adultry as said and no clear clarification. No case

frosbel:
A Christian can remarry only under conditions of adultery or infidelity.

Ignore all these self-righteouess hypocrites who are suggesting that after a divorce you have to remain unmarried for life. This is a big LIE and not in the bible.

After all David married more than one wife, and so did most of the people in the old testament or are we under a different era.

SMH.

I tot christianity is fashioned out of the new testament? If David married more dan a wife, Jesus came to change n simplify it. Abi u no follow de comdem tithe, is it not in d old testament?

Hmmm......the Bible says one thing...and church doctrine says something different...but too many of us call ourselves Christians but put church doctrine above Bible teachings.

Mhizdimplez:



Me no show people me pictures on Sundays......

its sunday in nigeria I wouldn,t know, it's saturday here #am in tokyo.
ngwa send d pics

paulsir:
where do u keep forgiveness,if at all fornication is experienced in a marriage?

Just give to your neighbour and go and and divorce him/her.

OasisofRefuge:
Based on the bible, once you are married, there's no going back. except when there's a case of adultery or death.

Today, people have minor differences and still divorce.
As a child of God, is it acceptable to divorce under any condition apart from adultery?

Can a Christian get married, and probably after realising the spouse is not good enough or not up to what he/she desires and ask for a divorce, and then remarries. Either this or remain in the marriage unhappy for ever.

Can a Christian ask for divorce when there's domestic violence or stay in the marriage till the end of time?

Please share with us based on God's word. Is there any reason why a child of God should divorce apart from adultery?

what part of d bible supports divorce on d grounds of adultery? All I know is till death do them apart.

There should be NO divorce for any reason... in Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9, the original Greek word "parektovß" was translated "saving" / "except" and should have been interpreted without exception to. The entire word of God is harmonious from cover to cover, (even though there may appear to be contradictions)...so in comparing Matt 5:32 & Matt 19:9 with the entire Bible, there should be nothing that ends a marriage..."Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder" - Matthew 19:6... except the death of a spouse.

"For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. " - Romans 7:2-3


Even though GOD temporarily permitted men to divorce their wives for substantive/righteous reasons of His own - "He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so." - Matthew 19:8

GOD hates divorce - "For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously." - Malachi 2:16

We ought to forgive one another, by His grace, no matter the nature of the sin and work through it, praying in the process because we "walk by Faith..."

lomprico:

Is okotie ur pastor?

Did Okotie write the book of Malachai chapter 2? Go and read your bible and stop projecting your ignorance on me

Domestic Violence!

All these people(especially ladies) shouting 'till death do us part', sorry, pray you don't see violence, you will run for your life, I mean incessant and consistent domestic violence perpetrated by insensible and crazy men. Nobody will tell you to run before you do.

aisha2:


Did Okotie write the book of Malachai chapter 2? Go and read your bible and stop projecting your ignorance on me

Its a question o!
Am sure okotie has used dat chapter to brainwash u. I have read my bible and Jesus condemmed it.
Read matt 19:1-12

If your spouse is an unbeliever you owe him or her no obligation. let me give you a few factors to consider as a factor to label your spouse an unbeliever; if the person never accepted Christ as his or her savior, or if the person throws away his or her faith or belief in Christ, or if the person now practices a new faith other than Christianity, or if you offended such a person and you made several effort to reconcile and he or she refused to make up one of those effort must have witnesses another of the effort must be elders or pastors from your church if all didn't work with such a person then he or she can be branded an unbeliever. from that moment you cease to owe him or her any obligation so you can go for your divorce.

Mtt 5:31-32. Mk 10:2-12. Lk 16:18. Rom 7:2-3. This is an interesting topic because it is going to open our understanding on what d the scripture says about divorce. On no occassion should divorce take place in marriage. Jesus made it clear that except in the case of fornication. The question is ; can married people commit fornication? Married people can never commit fornication but adultery. Fornication occurs btw singles not married. This is what Jesus was actually saying, Keeping a woman in ur home in the name of boyfriend and girlfriend or fiance and fiancee. Once they are not married but are living and sleeping with themselves. These two commit fornication. Either of them is free walk away. Even while they live together without marriage: they commit sin (fornication). Christ didnt say one can divorce in the face of unfaithfulness. In d face of unfaithfulness, there must be forgiveness. God bless. Watchman Catholic Charismatic Renewal Movement. 08084619104.

lomprico:

Its a question o!
Am sure okotie has used dat chapter to brainwash u. I have read my bible and Jesus condemmed it.
Read matt 19 vs 6.

Dont know Okotie, dont intend to, please post verbatim what Jesus wrote and study it side by side with the book of Malachai.

God was angry with unfaithful husbands who divorced their wives for flimsy reasons and mistreated them. Jesus also emphasised that you dont just give your wife a divorce paper as moses commanded because you are tired, you should only divorce her if she commits adultery.

Its not my fault you cant read and digest your own bible till a pastor quotes it out of context for you. Dont blame me for your myopia abeg. Done.

speakthetruth:
Better to be single than to divorce. Marriage of course is a requisite for divorce. The absolute truth in christendom is never to divorce once married except you are a joker: no acceptable excuse to break up after marriage not even the popularly quoted-out-of-cotext case of adultery.

How is adultery out of context? Explain.

aisha2:


Dont know Okotie, dont intend to, please post verbatim what Jesus wrote and study it side by side with the book of Malachai.

God was angry with unfaithful husbands who divorced their wives for flimsy reasons and mistreated them. Jesus also emphasised that you dont just give your wife a divorce paper as moses commanded because you are tired, you should only divorce her if she commits adultery.

Its not my fault you cant read and digest your own bible till a pastor quotes it out of context for you. Dont blame me for your myopia abeg. Done.

Sorry never knew u are divorced. Ma bad

Zakkyoz:
Use your instinct. Quit when you are fed up. Marriage is designed to be enjoyed and not endured.

if everyone quits when he is fed up, then no marriage will last, no home will stand and our society will crumble. "Love endures all things"

As a child of parents who are still together, i would understand and support them if they had a divorce. Them staying together has been hell for us kids in the house. Marriage shouldnt hurt or be painful or be endured. If my mother keeps crying every night because she has to endure her marriage or cant divorce under no circumstance, is that life?
Hian! You blind xtians amaze me. I will literally throw a party the day my parents get divorced. For real!!!
Sometimes i really do think i dnt want to ever get married because of wat ive seen firsthand frm my parents marriage. Hmmm....

angelTI:
Under no condition!

Remember it's till death do you part....

But it could be hard under some situations o

What if your husband constantly assaults you, almost to the point of death ?

Glocal1:
what part of d bible supports divorce on d grounds of adultery? All I know is till death do them apart.

What part of the Bible is anything like death do us part written? That is not in the Bible....google is your friend...find out the source of all these sayings instead of blindly repeating and passing them on.

Samabu07:
Can't a Born-again forgive his/her partner? What kind of born again attitude are we creating with our creator this days?

If you are truly born-again you will learn to forgive because marriage is till death do you part. I'm 10000% sure the joy and excitement of your wedding didn't make you deaf to that line....

If you divorce, you can't get married again till your divorced partner dies otherwise you will be committing adultery with whoever that marries you. Lots of folks turn a blind eyes to that fact...

God's your strength!

Thank u my dear. People just apply the scripture selfishly - even if u divorce on the grounds of adultery, the condition is that u have to remain single, otherwise u should forgive your spouse and continue to live with him/her. There're no grounds to divorce and remarry. This is the bitter truth.

Matthew 19:8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted divorce only as a CONCESSION TO YOUR HARD HEARTS, but it was not what God had originally intended. NLT (emphasis mine)

In short Jesus says no basis for divorce. But since you men want divorce in the picture, the only condition is this:

[NLT] Matthew 19:0 And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery—unless his wife has been unfaithful.”

Like i said earlier, God does not expect violence in the home. At times i wonder, why should there be violence in the home where each member should find refuge? Anyway, when life is threatened then some separation may be necessary and if need be divorce.

Kemmiiee:


What if your husband constantly assaults you, almost to the point of death ?

What kind question be this?!...remember it's till death do you part! ...that's etched on her brain and is no way she would seek divorce no matter how her husband may abuse her.....her mind is programmed to remain with her husband regardless of what I, you or the Bible say. And we still wonder why women remain in abusive relationships until they are brutalised then abandoned or killed.

simplemach:
Ok, lemme give u the condition as stated out by a Rev. Father in a wedding i once attended in kaduna.
The Rev. Father said, yes, u can divorce but with this condition. That u will gather thesame exact crowd that witnessed the wedding (nobody should be absent) seated before thesame priest who joined the couple. Then the divorce procedures can commence.

WOW!!!!!dat was my WEDDING thanks 4 coming...

Guidette:
As a child of parents who are still together, i would understand and support them if they had a divorce. Them staying together has been hell for us kids in the house. Marriage shouldnt hurt or be painful or be endured. If my mother keeps crying every night because she has to endure her marriage or cant divorce under no circumstance, is that life?
Hian! You blind xtians amaze me. I will literally throw a party the day my parents get divorced. For real!!!
Sometimes i really do think i dnt want to ever get married because of wat ive seen firsthand frm my parents marriage. Hmmm....

That's what we are talking about, enduring instead of enjoying a marraige, all in the name of 'till death do us part'. Rubbish, I just pity some women!

ojuoluwani:
The question is ARE U A REAL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN? If yes the only condition for divorce that bible made us to know is if there is case of ADULTERY u can divorce your wife if there is a confirm case of adultery except this no other condition for a truly born again Christian. Any pastor or church that support divorce simply because of domestic crises are product of hell fire remember u both made vow FOR BETTER FOR WORSE, FOR RICHER FOR POORER , IN SICKNESS IN HEALTH , IN CRISIS IN PEACE. My brother please before u choose seek the eyes of God. I'm a victim I'm facing a very hard domestic crisis presently I'm praying to God for forgiveness and breakthrough all loving Christian should pray for me too

.may God see you through .Honestly once you are married,there is no room for divorce.or you divorce and stay alone as long as your partner is alive

Originalsly:
What kind question be this?!...remember it's till death do you part! ...that's etched on her brain and is no way she would seek divorce no matter how her husband may abuse her.....her mind is programmed to remain with her husband regardless of what I, you or the Bible say. And we still wonder why women remain in abusive relationships until they are brutalised then abandoned or killed.

Huh ? I don't get your stance on this ..