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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:05am On Nov 25, 2014
patches689:


Gripen flew ISTAR after Marikana and during the world cup

They also fly ISTAR over the border

And bombing empty feilds as about as dangerous as bombing RUF of Boko Haram
Including CAR.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 8:05am On Nov 25, 2014
mzilakazi:


That's what you are making proved by world bank and many sources. What you make from oil has to be shared by all stake holders which the government is also part of the stake holder.

Did he just call you sthandwa sami?

Get away from that thing called EVarn, its obsessed with you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:16am On Nov 25, 2014
AugustineAgain:
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.[size=16pt]Nigerian Army Again !!!!

Powerful BMP-2 IFV now in Nigerian army bases for battle.

Russian weapons keep pouring into Nigeria secretly, the list is endless

Photos soon, new tanks, new IFVs enter service with Nigerian army.

South Africa fears and trembles again, afraid of the Giant Naija !

.[/size]

My i-phone told me there is no single source to substantiate that claim. However, I will consult SIPRI which normally record such sales. Anyways, BMP-2 IFV is not a big deal because Ingwe ATGM will consume all of the stock you bought in just few minutes.

I work close to a school of Armour and I know how well they respect ingwe ATGM.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:16am On Nov 25, 2014
agaugust:


All 18,000 hours are non-combat .

SAAF as a combat force, flew ZERO combat hours cheesy cheesy
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Training is more important than combat experience.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:17am On Nov 25, 2014
patches689:


Not to mention that the back doors contain the fuel tanks

Take a hit there and all the infantry are trapped inside.

They normaly fill it with water or sand though. Thuse it's actual max range and paper max range are difrent.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:20am On Nov 25, 2014
agaugust:


NATO and Russian AWACS connot operate in contested air space too, they need escorts like ATR-42 will be escorted.

However, with 330km super long range radar, NAF ATR-42 will be operating 230km deep inside Nigerian territory and yet it will be spying 100km deep into South African side of the frontline and relay data of your weapons positions to Nigerian army.

F-7 jets will protect the ATR-42, simple common sense.
That is maritime radar.

The SAAF Super Lynx helicopters which operate on-board the Valour class frigates, have a radar with a range of 300km+.

Thee F-7 stand no chance against SAAF Gripens.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:22am On Nov 25, 2014
mzilakazi:


My i-phone told me there is no single source to substantiate that claim. However, I will consult SIPRI which normally record such sales. Anyways, BMP-2 IFV is not a big deal because Ingwe ATGM will consume all of the stock you bought in just few minutes.

I work close to a school of Armour and I know how well they respect ingwe ATGM.

Could use a 12.7mm on a BMP2.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:34am On Nov 25, 2014
mzilakazi:

That's what you are making proved by world bank and many sources. What you make from oil has to be shared by all stake holders which the government is also part of the stake holder.
nope,oil isnt our only source of revenue,we make money from royalties and duties,taxes etc,nigeria has a 170 million,and every body pays his/her tax directly or indirectly,when all these money are coalated,it runs far more than a paltry $30 billion.its simple logic.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:36am On Nov 25, 2014
agaugust:


How does SAAF Hawk jet use your Umbani guided bomb? Your Hawks have no radar and no targeting pods.


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Maybe that's because radar isn't used to guide stand-off weapons like the Al Tariq.

One question: SAAF destroyed a bridge near Quito in Angola using the Raptor glide bomb at the ending phase of the bush war, launched from a Blackburn Buccaneer bomber. Did the Buccaneer use radar to guide the bomb? Did it have radar mister genius?

Ever heard about lock on after launch?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:52am On Nov 25, 2014
agaugust:


One single NAF ATR-42 will do more than all SAAF so called mumbo jumbo ISTAR aircraft combined.

SAAF ISTAR power is 66 years behind NAF.
The ATR-42 is maritime surveillance aircraft.

And that's what it is a maritime surveillance aircraft, with long range maritime surveillance and identification capabilities. Other secondary tasks might include ISTAR and SAR(Search and rescue).

Much of its capabilities can be found in the Super Lynx helicopters operated by SAAF, the Lynxes even have better sensors.

Bloggers make Nigerian believe things are advanced and exclusively operated by NAF, when in turn other air forces like SAAF have been using those since the 80s.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:06am On Nov 25, 2014
PROUDLY NIGERIAN ARMY DOING WHAT THEY KNOW BEST RUN...RUN.....RUN....RUN

Hundreds of residents and soldiers are fleeing a northern Nigerian town attacked by militant Islamists disguised as traders, officials say.

Shootings and explosions had rocked the trading town of Damasak, near Niger's border, a senator told the BBC.

Boko Haram fighters seized a nearby fishing village on Thursday, reportedly killing 48 people.

On Sunday, Nigeria's top Islamic leader accused soldiers of "terrorising", rather than defending, civilians.

"Soldiers take to their heels and abandon their bases, arms, ammunition and other military hardware on the approach of the insurgents," said the Sultan of Sokoto, Muhammad Sa'ad Abubakar.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30185933

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 9:40am On Nov 25, 2014
RIP to the deceased, its sad to know how their lives would have been saved if they had a proper army.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:33am On Nov 25, 2014
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who has the strongest navy in the world?,is it russia or the US?.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:36am On Nov 25, 2014
EVarn:
nope,oil isnt our only source of revenue,we make money from royalties and duties,taxes etc,nigeria has a 170 million,and every body pays his/her tax directly or indirectly,when all these money are coalated,it runs far more than a paltry $30 billion.its simple logic.


Do you want me to prove to you that your total revenues are less than $30 billion? Don't worry, I have an i-phone here.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:49am On Nov 25, 2014
mzilakazi:



Do you want me to prove to you that your total revenues are less than $30 billion? Don't worry, I have an i-phone here.
you could be using a super-computer,but it would do you no good in proving lies.last week,you openly admitted that $20 billion was stolen by the nigerian government,if according to your claim we make $30 billion a year,how then was $20 billion stolen without plunging the country into the 17th century?.get your facts straight,and dont rely on the world bank's assumptions.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:00am On Nov 25, 2014
EVarn:
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who has the strongest navy in the world?,is it russia or the US?.
The USA.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:17am On Nov 25, 2014
MikeCZAR:
The USA.
it may seem so because the US has:
*the largest fleet tonnage than the next 13 largest navies combined
*the largest carrier fleet in the world
*about 62 destroyers not to mention tincoderogas
*has the largest fleet of submarines etc.
but what of in term of training?,dont let us forget that russia has more territorial waters than the US.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:49am On Nov 25, 2014
EVarn:
you could be using a super-computer,but it would do you no good in proving lies.last week,you openly admitted that $20 billion was stolen by the nigerian government,if according to your claim we make $30 billion a year,how then was $20 billion stolen without plunging the country into the 17th century?.get your facts straight,and dont rely on the world bank's assumptions.


I have never admitted to such lies and neither did I make such a claim. That is completely new to me. However, if you want me to disgrace you publicly, I can comfortably do so with impunity. Do you want me to do so sir?


Do you mean that I should discredit the most reliable source such as world bank in the name of saving face of Nigeria? Over my dead body will I ever do that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:57am On Nov 25, 2014
EVarn:
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who has the strongest navy in the world?,is it russia or the US?.

The US, obviously. Their military budget alone is over that of many African countries combined.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:22pm On Nov 25, 2014
SA is estimated to have the world's fifth largest reserves of shale gas. Will that ever be a possibility?



http://www.werksmans.com/legal-briefs-view/potential-impact-on-international-investment-in-south-africas-oil-and-gas-sector/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:54pm On Nov 25, 2014
EVarn:
you could be using a super-computer,but it would do you no good in proving lies.last week,you openly admitted that $20 billion was stolen by the nigerian government,if according to your claim we make $30 billion a year,how then was $20 billion stolen without plunging the country into the 17th century?.get your facts straight,and dont rely on the world bank's assumptions.

$20 Billion total... as in over many years
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 12:56pm On Nov 25, 2014
mzilakazi:

I have never admitted to such lies and neither did I make such a claim. That is completely new to me. However, if you want me to disgrace you publicly, I can comfortably do so with impunity. Do you want me to do so sir?
Do you mean that I should discredit the most reliable source such as world bank in the name of saving face of Nigeria? Over my dead body will I ever do that.
You openly admitted that $20 billion was stolen from the national excess crude account.and i remember henry120 called you on it,but you never replied him,you cowardly ran offline and later deflected the subject of discussion when you grew too confused to form a coherent thought.
i'm not holding you back in disgracing yourself by posting incorrect facts.feel free to show your ignorance,i'm ready to educate you should you feel the urge to spout more propaganda.
world bank data are a joke.they dont know the realities on ground,they just add a few numbers together and assume that they're right.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:04pm On Nov 25, 2014
patches689:


$20 Billion total... as in over many years
that wasnt what he said,he{mzilakazi} quoted sanusi lamido{ex-CBN governor},by alleging that $20 million took flight from the excess crude account in 2012.when henry challenged him to reveal how it is possible to make $30 billion and yet steal $20 billion,he{mzilakazi} ran away trembling in shame.go back and read his comments and you will see what i'm talking about.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:08pm On Nov 25, 2014
mzilakazi:


The US, obviously. Their military budget alone is over that of many African countries combined.
biggest budget does not equal to strongest navy.we'll know how vigorously the russians train their military personnel,they arent exactly lacking equippments too.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 1:17pm On Nov 25, 2014
EVarn:
it may seem so because the US has:
*the largest fleet tonnage than the next 13 largest navies combined
*the largest carrier fleet in the world
*about 62 destroyers not to mention tincoderogas
*has the largest fleet of submarines etc.
but what of in term of training?,dont let us forget that russia has more territorial waters than the US.
In the open ocean no country can challenge the USA Navy.

Regarding territory the USA has bases all over the world.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 1:18pm On Nov 25, 2014
mzilakazi:
SA is estimated to have the world's fifth largest reserves of shale gas. Will that ever be a possibility?



http://www.werksmans.com/legal-briefs-view/potential-impact-on-international-investment-in-south-africas-oil-and-gas-sector/
Yes.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:18pm On Nov 25, 2014
mzilakazi:
SA is estimated to have the world's fifth largest reserves of shale gas. Will that ever be a possibility?



http://www.werksmans.com/legal-briefs-view/potential-impact-on-international-investment-in-south-africas-oil-and-gas-sector/
perhaps it would help you propel your economic growth to at least 3%,too many saffers depend on the government for their daily meal,i can only imagine the disaster it would generate if government no longer feed you because of low revenue.anyways,this comes at a time when virtualy almost every country on earth can now produce their own oil,i dont think SA would go anywhere with shale oil,there is more than enough oil flooding the world market as it is.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:25pm On Nov 25, 2014
MikeCZAR:
In the open ocean no country can challenge the USA Navy.
Regarding territory the USA has bases all over the world.
perhaps.but USA is already getting agitated by china's increasing naval strength.though china has manpower,they cant yet boast of an 'american-level' technology,but russia is a different animal entirely.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:32pm On Nov 25, 2014
patches689:


$20 Billion total... as in over many years

Sharap, and stop justifying your stup1dity on this particular topic.

Learn to accept defeat.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:42pm On Nov 25, 2014
Henry120:


Sharap, and stop justifying your stup1dity on this particular topic.

Learn to accept defeat.

Suspended central bank governor Lamido Sanusi caused shockwaves last month when he said that $20bn in oil revenue had not been accounted for.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26553388

The bankers were going to have to open their books, the governor, Lamido Sanusi, warned them at the recent meeting. He wanted to see where the money was going — $20 billion from oil sales that, mysteriously, was not making its way to the treasury,
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/world/africa/nigerians-ask-why-oil-funds-are-missing.html?_r=0

Its pretty obvious that what is happening is that you are declaring huge profits at one end, but the money is not making it into the national treasury.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:49pm On Nov 25, 2014
patches689:


Suspended central bank governor Lamido Sanusi caused shockwaves last month when he said that $20bn in oil revenue had not been accounted for.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26553388

The bankers were going to have to open their books, the governor, Lamido Sanusi, warned them at the recent meeting. He wanted to see where the money was going — $20 billion from oil sales that, mysteriously, was not making its way to the treasury,
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/world/africa/nigerians-ask-why-oil-funds-are-missing.html?_r=0

Its pretty obvious that what is happening is that you are declaring huge profits at one end, but the money is not making it into the national treasury.


I won't respond to this subject again. Here are the facts you like to parade about.

Nigeria makes 25 billion in revenue

However, the CBN governor said over an 8 month period $49.8 billion was un-remitted.

Oil accounts for 69% of federal government's exports.


The senate investigated and found out no money was missing.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:52pm On Nov 25, 2014
DieVluit:


LOL - in which village is he doing this because he does not even have a 2-inch poster erected in SA...?

Dangote is not in South Africa for politics, he does not need a photo poster or billboard.

Ask your countrymen who are paying billions of Rands inot Dangote industries bank account, begging the Nigerian mogul for the kind of pie your country cannot offer them.

They even over paid Dangote by an extra one billion Rand, we have swallowed your money forever, and we DON'T do refunds shocked shocked
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