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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Nobody: 9:49am On Dec 17, 2014
Truckpusher:
Elizabeth is biting more than she can chew.
clueless.
So, it is now the DSS that runs Total affairs. Let them employ the Ogbonda now if they feel like she should still be in employment.
she was not sacked because she was transferred to Lagos but because she went against the company policy on issues best known to them.
the DSS is now the body telling companies to employ, sack, re-instate or transfer people.
No wonder they are VERY EFFECTIVE[i][/i] grin

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Nobody: 9:52am On Dec 17, 2014
doctokwus:

This is what u get wen cluelessness pervades d whole nation.This is an issue strictly btw total and pengassan. DSS has absolutely no biz in dis matter.Leaving sentiments aside, total also has d right to transfer employees.
This is d oda reason y its pertinent dt gej leaves dt post. There is so much impunity, cluelessness and abuse of all decent norms that even if buhari won't solve all d problems, but a change in d way all agencies of govt act and behave wud engender change in many other aspects of Nigeria
Our Labour Union leaders are infamous for using the labour as a tool to further their own selfish interest. Why is the staff protesting redeployment? Is it not to preserve her "coveted" PENGASSAN position? What is the Business with DSS? Is DSS now the Ministry of Labour or Ministry of Petroleum? Is the DSS now NNPC? Why can't the woman go to the National Industrial Court if she feels she was ill-treated? These government people are clowns

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Nobody: 9:53am On Dec 17, 2014
good day people,
i stumbled on this post and people's comments, and i realise that we are really not knowledgeable about security matters in this country with respect to functions of security agencies.
First let me use america as a case in point. The CIA functions to provide intel on cases that affect American security and interest home and abroad most especially abroad. The FBI and homeland security are concerned about internal threats so when you have protests,riots and random violence, this is when they come in. They assess the threats and look at the causes of these internal problems, because be it as it may a little issue as workers strike has the potential of boiling over to acts of random violence so they need to assess the threats and look at the severity of the issue before taking the next line of action.
Now coming to the Nigerian case oil is a highly strategic resource and any issue such as workers strike in that sector has the potential of spilling over into a national crisis almost similar to the arab spring, hence the DSS need to assess the impact of the strike.
Please people whenever we want to criticise agencies let us try to understand their functions first before passing judgement. I rest my case.

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by danjaD(m): 9:54am On Dec 17, 2014
Hmm Nawa o, dss when una recruitment list de comot sef
Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by doctokwus: 9:57am On Dec 17, 2014
AKUNWATA1:
oh my goodness shocked what is wrong with all these buharistan Mrs ogar clearly stated that the matter was brought to DSS office by pengassan officials and you don't think she did the right thing by telling Nigerians

If DSS knew its job description and knows what rule of law means,d guildin principle dt makes society modern, it shd av referred pengassan to d industrial court,d agency properly constituted to settle industrial matters.But no,since every uniformed agency in a clueless govt wt impunity like second skin, wants to play tin god; d DSS decides to invite d head of an organisation to explain internal,executive board decisions.

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by danniyal(m): 10:02am On Dec 17, 2014
danjaD:
Hmm Nawa o, dss when una recruitment list de comot sef
guy pple don dey camp o

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Boss13: 10:04am On Dec 17, 2014
laBarca:
This is very laughable, what concerns the DSS with fuel scarcity, PENGASSAN strike or TOTAL internal matters? For God sake the DSS is supposed to act as intel for other Agencies(Police and Military) to burst crimes and protect Nigerians. When did they become NLC, PPPRA, NNPC or Ministry of Labour to comment on who is holding Nigeria oil and gas workers to ransome and who is not? These people don't just know the difference between State's Intelligence Agency and Dispute and Resolution Center.

Well said. People have the right to protest. What is the business of DSS and why are they compelling the management of total to sack a pengassan staff.

There are serious issues that requires their attention. We are not in a dictatorship. Jonathan is just a wicked president or may I say this is the inner workings of president number 2 Diezani

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by ypzilanti: 10:06am On Dec 17, 2014
laBarca:
This is very laughable, what concerns the DSS with fuel scarcity, PENGASSAN strike or TOTAL internal matters? For God sake the DSS is supposed to act as intel for other Agencies(Police and Military) to burst crimes and protect Nigerians. When did they become NLC, PPPRA, NNPC or Ministry of Labour to comment on who is holding Nigeria oil and gas workers to ransome and who is not? These people don't just know the difference between State's Intelligence Agency and Dispute and Resolution Center.

My brother, I tire for this DSS. WTF! Like seriously that place needs to be shut down and new professionals recruited into it. What is the work of the industrial court?

If I be judge for industrial court me sef go vex go arrest boko haram suspect...

You would be mighty surprised that the industrial court would do a better job at curtailing terrorism in Naija. They cannot do any worse, anyway.

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Saifullah01: 10:07am On Dec 17, 2014
My take on this.

Bad journalism
When did Elizabeth become total nigeria plc's MD. Total nig Plc is the downstream operation of total with its MD alexis volx, total downstream is entirely seperately from total upstream aka total exploration and production nigeria limited ( if our journalist can't get this simple fact straight, how sure are we the whole article isn't twisted)

Insincere government
You don't need a soothsayer to tell you nigeria is broke or going broke. I just hope this is not a ploy to increase pump price and then using all means to rope it on total's internal labour dispute

DSS connection

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Nobody: 10:08am On Dec 17, 2014
Boss13:


Well said. People have the right to protest. What is the business of DSS and why are they compelling the management of total to sack pengassan staff.

There are serious issues that require their attention. We are not in a dictatorship. Jonathan is just a wicked president or may I say this is the inner workings of president number 2 Diezani
Abi o. If the staff feel aggrieved or if DSS feel concerned all they need to do is to advise the PENGASSAN official to approach the National Industrial Court, that is vested with powers to intervene in such matters. They just want to be seen and heard. Who knows the interests they may be protecting? Maybe President Allison Maduweke has stake in this whole thing
Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Truckpusher(m): 10:08am On Dec 17, 2014
gzib:

clueless.
So, it is now the DSS that runs Total affairs. Let them employ the Ogbonda now if they feel like she should still be in employment.
she was not sacked because she was transferred to Lagos but because she went against the company policy on issues best known to them.
the DSS is now the body telling companies to employ, sack, re-instate or transfer people.
No wonder they are VERY EFFECTIVE[i][/i] grin
coming back to reply your stupidity.
Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by onatisi(m): 10:08am On Dec 17, 2014
AKUNWATA1:
oh my goodness shocked what is wrong with all these buharistan Mrs ogar clearly stated that the matter was brought to DSS office by pengassan officials and you don't think she did the right thing by telling Nigerians

bros don't get worked up about these people attitude just look at them like animals displaying their stupidityy ,their comments shows how bad the educational system in nigeria has gone, their brains can't comprehend the article so they just look at the heading and post rubbish. Because if those against this statement from ogar are normal thinking human beings and took time to read the article which I know is too complicated for them to understand, they will know and see that matters like this must have passed through pegassan legal department and it was pegassan that took the matter to dss not the other way round. If there is any objection to this move ,the objection should be directed at pegassann and not dss.

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by angelsing(m): 10:09am On Dec 17, 2014
MadCow1:
That's why I love Elizabeth proust.. She will never re-employ that chalatan.

Pengassan leadership has lost its mind. They can strike for 100 years if they like. They are holding the nation to ransome because of that cretin. Sadly, Mrs Proust does not negotiate with terrorists. She has a right to fire any worker that contravenes company rules and policy. Let Pengassan keep embarrassing themselves. We all know this is all in a bid to frustrate jonathan.

I guess they will also blame Total for the PIB that has not been passed cos that was one of their demands.
I was already waiting for someone to say the obvious "they want to frustrate jonathan government"...must everyone be against him?..just address the issue and leave this conspiracy talk

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Nobody: 10:10am On Dec 17, 2014
ypzilanti:


My brother, I tire for this DSS. WTF! Like seriously that place needs to be shut down and new professionals recruited into it. What is the work of the industrial court?

If I be judge for industrial court me sef go vex go arrest boko haram suspect...

You would be mighty surprised that the industrial court would do a better job at curtailing terrorism in Naija. They cannot do any worse, anyway.
That was funny. I can't help but agree with you. Btw: The DSS used to be invisible before, why are they now all over the place? What is the difference between the DSS and NSCDC?

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by iykepromotions: 10:11am On Dec 17, 2014
What i'm blaming is the AMOUNT not TOTAL. petrol supposed to be N27 Per Litre

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Boss13: 10:13am On Dec 17, 2014
tafabaloo:
Majority of Nigerians don't really understand the function and roles of DSS. I think we shld be grateful that someone is coming to tell us what's behind the current scarcity instead of throwing flaks at Ogar.
For records, be informed that it's part of the statutory roles of DSS to resolve labour crisis before it develops to what we are presently experiencing.

It is also part of their job description to be secretive. Nigerians are not interested in knowing whether total is firing a staff or not. What we know is that there is not fuel because there is scarcity. Rather than them resolve the issue they have started the blame game.
Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Nobody: 10:15am On Dec 17, 2014
This woman can't even hide her partisanship anymore. She is now actively invovled in spreading propaganda and other political shenanigans for her paymaster. I believe the dss has no correlation with labour groups, so why is she so brazenly fingerpointing at total for being responsible for the strike.

She is a disgrace to the dss and should be expunged before she denigrates them any further.

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Boss13: 10:16am On Dec 17, 2014
AKUNWATA1:
oh my goodness shocked what is wrong with all these buharistan Mrs ogar clearly stated that the matter was brought to DSS office by pengassan officials and you don't think she did the right thing by telling Nigerians


Is it in their jurisdiction to handle trade issues. We have the police and the court. Since they have no experience we can all see that the issue was not resolved

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by texazzpete(m): 10:17am On Dec 17, 2014
tafabaloo:
Majority of Nigerians don't really understand the function and roles of DSS. I think we shld be grateful that someone is coming to tell us what's behind the current scarcity instead of throwing flaks at Ogar.
For records, be informed that it's part of the statutory roles of DSS to resolve labour crisis before it develops to what we are presently experiencing.

So why did the DSS not comment on the 8 month ASUU strike which was caused by the FG reneging on an agreement with ASUU?

Why did Marilyn Ogar not call on Nigerians to appeal to Goodluck Jonathan?

When Health workers were on strike, where was the DSS?

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Boss13: 10:20am On Dec 17, 2014
On a serious note, do we have a labour minister? Is he on sick leave? Is he still entitled to salary?

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Boss13: 10:24am On Dec 17, 2014
I will tell you why the DSS is involved. Anything that intends to tarnish Jonathan's reelection plan is deemed as a national security threat

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by IdomaLikita: 10:24am On Dec 17, 2014
May a Meteor land and Selectively Roast the Policy Makers of this Country to Death!
I can't believe Nigeria has no STRATEGIC BACKUP PLAN!
3yrs Ago, We saw the Egyptian Govt direct the Army to bake enough BREADS to feed the People of Egypt and stabilize Bread prices when there was a Shortage resulting from Strikes, Poor Wheat Harvest, Price Hikes etc!
Eventually, the Price of Bread plummeted and Egyptians knew they had a Govt!
Every Country has a Strategic Reserve of Essential Commodities, ready to be deployed at the shortest Possible time!
That is Why Japan, Philippines etc that suffer Tsunamis almost Yearly are still functional to this Day
Does it mean if a bomb goes off in one TOTAL installation, Nigerians would have no fuel to buy?
170million People suffering because of one woman?
What stops the Govt from quickly Deploying the Army to TEMPORARILY take over Fuel Distribution, pending when the issue is resolved, knowing how sensitive the Sector is to Nigeria?
So the Govt does not realise that Scarcity of fuel is a NATIONAL EMERGENCY that can lead to steep rise in prices of Goods and Services in a Country having economic problems?
I think this Govt has become too comfortable with out Complacency!!!
Jeeeez!!!

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by bubadaniel13: 10:25am On Dec 17, 2014
laBarca:
This is very laughable, what concerns the DSS with fuel scarcity, PENGASSAN strike or TOTAL internal matters? For God sake the DSS is supposed to act as intel for other Agencies(Police and Military) to burst crimes and protect Nigerians. When did they become NLC, PPPRA, NNPC or Ministry of Labour to comment on who is holding Nigeria oil and gas workers to ransome and who is not? These people don't just know the difference between State's Intelligence Agency and Dispute and Resolution Center.
maybe you need to cross check the roles of the dss again, the last time I checked they are in charge of the internal security matters which included labour matters, it may interest to know tht they have playing a lot roles in averting industrial disharmony in acedemic institutions, companes etc.
Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Nobody: 10:30am On Dec 17, 2014
Erm wetin concern dss with petroleum matters? Or nnpc don outsource their work give dss? Its crayy, just like nigerian police spokes person commenting on cause of health workers strike. It beats my imagination

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by MadCow1: 10:35am On Dec 17, 2014
angelsing:
I was already waiting for someone to say the obvious "they want to frustrate jonathan government"...must everyone be against him?..just address the issue and leave this conspiracy talk



I am not peddling and conspiracy..

Try and follow the demands of Pengassan and you will realise that the part the concerns Total has to do only with the sacking of that woman. And I know the full story behind that womans sack and it is well justified and no amount of lies will make Total change its position. Total has even released a press statement to this effect..

The rest of Pengassan demands are why I think they are targeting the president. Read the reasons for the strike and do the maths yourself.
Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by osomegbe(m): 10:36am On Dec 17, 2014
Truckpusher:
coming back to reply your stupidity.
Sensible one, tell me please if you are aware that we have a Ministry of Labour & NLC that she should have taken her case to and get a reprieve if she felt she was unjustly treated. If she used those avenues? what was the outcome?.
If a person goes against the company policy and sacking her is an option, so the court can say don't sack her. Can you run your company like that.
If somebody wins a zonal position, does that make the person immune from transfer? is it in any PENGASSAN law that a person elected into any position either in Zonal, National etc shouldn't be transferred by the company that will make him/her loss her position?
She had the option of taking leave of absence, before she was transferred, if she knew that she wanted to focus on zonal issues but she didn't take it.
All mouth will be quiet if the company goes outside their policy to publish her crimes in the dailies, but I know they will not succumb to cheap blackmail to achieve their aims and objectives.
I am ashamed of National NUPENG body because Total in house had court issues throughout last year with one of their own that the National body was included in a law suit. But, for one day they did not send any representative to court throughout the period.
who is deceiving who. Tell us something else. I have gone past using someone to influence other people.That is what they are doing.
Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Nobody: 10:40am On Dec 17, 2014
Oh lawdy Lord!
How do one survive another 4 years of unending cycle of unalloyed mediocrity like this?

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by MadCow1: 10:40am On Dec 17, 2014
Ahmed4002:


I don't have much inform about Elizabeth proust. but on the day of introduction. she looks serious



That woman na advanced crase woman o!!

She has one mission in Nigeria:: Sanitize Total Nigeria..

She came from Total Indonesia and reports have it that she totally rocked their world. She cleaned up indonesia, handed over to an Indonesian (for the first time) and then arrived Nigeria to do same.

Union has tested her resolve before and failed. She wouldn't shake on this matter either. The woman Pengassan is fighting for is a despicable character and represents all that is wrong with Nigeria. She is trying to use Pengassan influence to act with impunity. The old MD may have allowed that shiit slide, but not Proust.

Make Pengassan park well..

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by MadCow1: 10:42am On Dec 17, 2014
osomegbe:

Sensible one, tell me please if you are aware that we have a Ministry of Labour & NLC that she should have taken her case to and get a reprieve if she felt she was unjustly treated. If she used those avenues? what was the outcome?.
If a person goes against the company policy and sacking her is an option, so the court can say don't sack her. Can you run your company like that.
If somebody wins a zonal position, does that make the person immune from transfer? is it in any PENGASSAN law that a person elected into any position either in Zonal, National etc shouldn't be transferred by the company that will make him/her loss her position?
She had the option of taking leave of absence, before she was transferred, if she knew that she wanted to focus on zonal issues but she didn't take it.
All mouth will be quiet if the company goes outside their policy to publish her crimes in the dailies, but I know they will not succumb to cheap blackmail to achieve their aims and objectives.
I am ashamed of National NUPENG body because Total in house had court issues throughout last year with one of their own that the National body was included in a law suit. But, for one day they did not send any representative to court throughout the period.
who is deceiving who. Tell us something else. I have gone past using someone to influence other people.That is what they are doing.



Leave these people to be yarning dust!

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by Bawss1(m): 10:44am On Dec 17, 2014
The DSS obviously has a lot of free time for it to concern itself with this union strike. Has the boko haram insurgency in the north been dealth with completely?

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by mmark12(m): 10:45am On Dec 17, 2014
lexyclasy:
It is so sadden that people are commenting in this manner. first and foremost ponder on the meaning of security.again did some of you even knows the role and responsibilities of DSS...and their job description?...stop crucifying the department......if i were the president i will wrote to TOTAL headquarters to pull that so called Elizabeth (p)froust off this country for breach of union terms they initially agreed and causing security unrest in the nation....it is only in naija that this nonsense is happening ....firing people any how ,reviewing contracts won by contractors years back and threaten them to call-in other contractor who are on the line should in case they reject the revised bid.what a shame and NAPIMS are here getting their kick back from TOTAL strong woman.....TOTAL can not hold us to ransom....there are laid down conditions for union to thrive and they knew it....she want to prove she is better than her predecessor by sacking Nigerians and bringing in french and cheap labours from India,Thailand. Indonesia etc.she knows that if the union leader is off from PH base she will be able to manipulate workers and sack them at will and will also stop the yearly reviews every January that woman is a crook....the french have nothing to offer naija.....only to milk us dry.....she must reinstate that man else she will locate air France as her alternative route

Load of rubbish
How is Total milking Nigerians dry? last I checked the company employs thousands of Nigerians, contribute huge revenue to Nigeria in form of taxes they pay, Technology transfer to the country, training of Nigerian etc.

THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT IS GREATEST EXPLOITER OF NIGERIANS.

Beside the issue is an internal matter, what is DSS business in labour dispute.

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Re: Fuel Scarcity: TOTAL Oil Is Holding Nigerians To Ransom by ypzilanti: 10:56am On Dec 17, 2014
laBarca:
That was funny. I can't help but agree with you. Btw: The DSS used to be invisible before, why are they now all over the place? What is the difference between the DSS and NSCDC?

Ahhh! Y'all aint seen nothing yet. PDP will not rest until we descend to the point where people use DSS agents to settle husband and wife quarrel, or "face me I face u" fight in Mushin.

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