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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by AdeniyiA(m): 2:25pm On Dec 20, 2014
Psalms 92:5 O LORD, how great are thy works! and thy thoughts are very deep. 92:6 A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.
A man was created to be a free being,able to make choices, not stooges and to face the consequences of his actions(good or bad). To be able to do this there must be situations that provide basis for comparison, in this case God loves creating in twos ;man/woman, right/wrong, right/left, heaven /earth ,life/death etc
How will you appreciate light if there's no darkness? ,joy if there's no sorrow, wealth if there's no poverty ... and would we appreciate God if there is no Satan?
in fact in his own way the devil is working for God to establish properly the children of God .Job 1:6-12.
Tell if I'd ever know if God exist or is powerful if it's not because of the devil?
The power to resist the devil is with us, so if he is successful in tempting us it's our fault.
These are part of creation mysteries which we can not completely understand till thy kingdom come...

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 2:34pm On Dec 20, 2014
Youngsage:

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I didn't say pride isn't evil.
I said it earlier. Pride originated from Lucifer, now Satan. He wasn't created with it, he wasn't created with sin. He was made blameless, but he became proud because of his beauty, he wanted to rule. He wanted God's position.
Sin, or evil started as a result of Satan's pride. This pride originated from his thoughts, it came from within Him. God cannot be in the prescence of sin, so he had to cast him out into his own realm, where he could be king.
undecided

So where did sin come from?

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 2:37pm On Dec 20, 2014
Longstride:


isn't our pride and other evil tendencies from the devil?
The question is, where did the devil's original pride and evil come from, who tempted him to sin?... Except you wanna say we were created with pride, and other negative traits.
The Bible says God is a jealous God, where did his jealousy come from? The Devil?

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by johnydon22(m): 2:51pm On Dec 20, 2014
Youngsage:

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I didn't say pride isn't evil.
I said it earlier. Pride originated from Lucifer, now Satan. He wasn't created with it, he wasn't created with sin. He was made blameless, but he became proud because of his beauty, he wanted to rule. He wanted God's position.
Sin, or evil started as a result of Satan's pride. This pride originated from his thoughts, it came from within Him. God cannot be in the prescence of sin, so he had to cast him out into his own realm, where he could be king.
undecided
so a perfect being created by a perfect god in a perfect and sinless realm bore out evil from his thought... are u listening to urself . . . if lucifer could bore out evil from his thought that means he wasnt perfect so therefore god made an imperfect being then blame him for his imperfections. . . . when will adults stop believing all dis folklore and myths.

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by johnydon22(m): 2:54pm On Dec 20, 2014
Weselion:
The Bible says God is a jealous God, where did his jealousy come from? The Devil?
hahahahahahahha see question oo!!! shocked

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 3:01pm On Dec 20, 2014
[quote author=Youngsage post=29048346]
- He wasn't just a devoted angel, he was very very powerful. As a matter of fact, he was an Archangel, the most powerful of the three that God created.
He was a magnificent being , with more intellect, wisdom, ability and beauty than the other angelic beings, was awesome to behold. No wonder God named him Lucifer which means 'Day Star' or 'Son of The Morning'. Where for bible wey dem write say na three arch angels dey and na lucifer strong pass all of them?

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by sonmvayina(m): 5:10pm On Dec 20, 2014
the bible version don't make sense, if you want the real gist please refer to the original Sumerian text...

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 5:28pm On Dec 20, 2014
sonmvayina:
the bible version don't make sense, if you want the real gist please refer to the original Sumerian text...

Any link pls?

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by sonmvayina(m): 6:04pm On Dec 20, 2014
emmyrichie:


Any link pls?

yes,
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by sonmvayina(m): 6:05pm On Dec 20, 2014
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by frank317: 7:07pm On Dec 20, 2014
Youngsage:

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I didn't say pride isn't evil.
I said it earlier. Pride originated from Lucifer, now Satan. He wasn't created with it, he wasn't created with sin. He was made blameless, but he became proud because of his beauty, he wanted to rule. He wanted God's position.
Sin, or evil started as a result of Satan's pride. This pride originated from his thoughts, it came from within Him. God cannot be in the prescence of sin, so he had to cast him out into his own realm, where he could be king.
undecided

If u don't know the answer, just say 'I don't know' instead of embarrassing yourself here.

Abi you no go school? Who is asking u for long story? Or don't u understand the question?

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by wunderkiind(m): 8:16pm On Dec 20, 2014
frank317:


If u don't know the answer, just say 'I don't know' instead of embarrassing yourself here.

Abi you no go school? Who is asking u for long story? Or don't u understand the question?

You that understands the question, why u no help us with answer na? Or u sef no go school ni grin grin

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Sibrah: 8:41pm On Dec 20, 2014
All beings have the tendency to act in two diff directions, without this power of choice we will be as robots.

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by davien(m): 8:48pm On Dec 20, 2014
Sibrah:
All beings have the tendency to act in two diff directions, without this power of choice we will be as robots.
Good...so how is "heaven" free from this choice of evil or isn't it free?

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by kevoh(m): 8:53pm On Dec 20, 2014
sad Good luck trying to defend some Jewish fairy tale in a presumed holy book.

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 9:01pm On Dec 20, 2014
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Sibrah: 9:06pm On Dec 20, 2014
davien:
Good...so how is "heaven" free from this choice of evil or isn't it free?
Those in heaven(beings) are still in line so qualify to be in heaven. Thought they have a choice. The case of humans who av bneen through earth is diff. They are locked to KIngdom 'network'.
Our being on earth is a tramsaction place where we have tje choice to buy 'into' the narrow and or wide path.
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by davien(m): 9:25pm On Dec 20, 2014
Sibrah:
Those in heaven(beings) are still in line so qualify to be in heaven. Thought they have a choice. The case of humans who av bneen through earth is diff. They are locked to KIngdom 'network'.
Our being on earth is a tramsaction place where we have tje choice to buy 'into' the narrow and or wide path.

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 10:20pm On Dec 20, 2014
if u ask me, na who I go ask?
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Jameselias: 11:05pm On Dec 20, 2014
Weselion:
It was not an evil spirit, it was pride. When God Creates a living thing, he allows them make choices. Angels knew how powerful God was and know the consequence of not worshiping him, the Devil wanted to face the consequence. Even human beings have a choice, its either you worship God or the Devil but there are bad consequences when you worship the devil.
how then are we sure that many other angels since then till now have not revolted like dis one.

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Pr0ton: 11:44pm On Dec 20, 2014
Youngsage:

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I didn't say pride isn't evil.
I said it earlier. Pride originated from Lucifer, now Satan. He wasn't created with it, he wasn't created with sin. He was made blameless, but he became proud because of his beauty, he wanted to rule. He wanted God's position.
Sin, or evil started as a result of Satan's pride. This pride originated from his thoughts, it came from within Him. God cannot be in the prescence of sin, so he had to cast him out into his own realm, where he could be king.
undecided

If Satan was created blameless and pure, but yet sinned... Then God "should take heed lest He falls"

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 7:17am On Dec 21, 2014
Pr0ton:


If Satan was created blameless and pure, but yet sinned... Then God "should take heed lest He falls"

grin this is blasphemy.

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by omaigala(m): 8:46am On Dec 21, 2014
@OAM4J @Seun I recommend this topic for the fp. Thanks!

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by grandstar(m): 9:31am On Dec 21, 2014
Jehovah wants angels and man us to serve him out of love and not as robots.(Deut 30:18-19). Evil thoughts come from within us and if we keep dwelling on it is what brings sin(Matt 12:34) (James 1 :13-15). Visit jw.org for more bible based answers.

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 9:43am On Dec 21, 2014
grandstar:
Jehovah wants angels and man us to serve him out of love and as robots. (Deut 30:18-19). Evil thoughts come from within us and if we keep dwelling on it is what brings sin(Matt 12:34) (James 1 :13-15). Visit jw.org for more bible based answers.

If evil thought emanates from within us, then it means that humans and angels were created with some elements/atom of evil that germinated overtime in slow/quick succession.

Or what do you think?

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by tola9ja: 9:45am On Dec 21, 2014
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by chinedum2: 9:46am On Dec 21, 2014
From God b/cos good and bad exist together so also light and darknes.

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by lionduke(m): 9:48am On Dec 21, 2014
Youngsage:

- He wasn't just a devoted angel, he was very very powerful. As a matter of fact, he was an Archangel, the most powerful of the three that God created.
He was a magnificent being , with more intellect, wisdom, ability and beauty than the other angelic beings, was awesome to behold. No wonder God named him Lucifer which means 'Day Star' or 'Son of The Morning'.
To cut the long story short, it got to a point that he became discontent with his position, even as the angel of worship/music director in heaven, and prominence and wanted to overthrow God. His downfall began because Pride entered his heart, and because of his power, he got some angels on his side, one third of all the angels, this then led to a war between lucifer and his men, and the other archangel/angels.
He was defeated, and together with the fallen angels, was banished from Heaven and God changed his name to Satan/Devil meaning 'adversary', and these fallen angels are known today as Demons... And so on.

The spirit that polluted Satan, came from Satan himself, it entered him- from him that moment he allowed Pride take over him. Hence the origin of sin originated from the creation, not the creator. Never.
Although Satan, or Lucifer was not created evil, he originated His own sin which which was pride and rebellion against God.
The same sin Adam commited. Rebellion- deliberately disobeying God's intsruction- The first or original sin- on Earth...

Abeg who direct the movie
is it in cinema now

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by showafrica(m): 9:50am On Dec 21, 2014
emmyrichie:
According to the tale, until a certain point, the devil (Lucifer) was a devoted angel.

My question is, where did the spirit that polluted the creature (Satan) emanate from?

Honestly, this spirit world has many un-answered questions. I have not read any comment yet, but no body has the correct answer.

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Mavor: 9:51am On Dec 21, 2014
Youngsage:

- He wasn't just a devoted angel, he was very very powerful. As a matter of fact, he was an Archangel, the most powerful of the three that God created.
He was a magnificent being , with more intellect, wisdom, ability and beauty than the other angelic beings, was awesome to behold. No wonder God named him Lucifer which means 'Day Star' or 'Son of The Morning'.
To cut the long story short, it got to a point that he became discontent with his position, even as the angel of worship/music director in heaven, and prominence and wanted to overthrow God. His downfall began because Pride entered his heart, and because of his power, he got some angels on his side, one third of all the angels, this then led to a war between lucifer and his men, and the other archangel/angels.
He was defeated, and together with the fallen angels, was banished from Heaven and God changed his name to Satan/Devil meaning 'adversary', and these fallen angels are known today as Demons... And so on.

The spirit that polluted Satan, came from Satan himself, it entered him- from him that moment he allowed Pride take over him. Hence the origin of sin originated from the creation, not the creator. Never.
Although Satan, or Lucifer was not created evil, he originated His own sin which which was pride and rebellion against God.
The same sin Adam commited. Rebellion- deliberately disobeying God's intsruction- The first or original sin- on Earth...
He was not an Archangel. He was a Seraphim, Seraphims are the first of the nine celestial orders of angels: Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones, Dominions, Virtues, Powers, Principalities, Archangels and Angels. One of the few angels then allowed to stand in the presence of God and look upon God and not be blinded by God's Glory.

Like every sentient being God created, he was given free will and chose wrongly.




1st Sphere – Seraphim, Cheribum and Thrones
2nd Sphere – Dominions, Virtues and Powers
3rd Sphere – Principalities, Archangels and Angels.

SERAPHIM – sometimes called “the burning ones” because they are closest to God and radiate Pure Light. These are the Angels who constantly sing God’s praise, and whose duty it is to regulate the heavens. (Lucifer is said to have been one of the Seraphim who had outshone all the others untill he became the head of the fallen angels).

CHERUBIM - sent to guard the gates of Eden. Originally they were depicted as the bearers of God’s Throne, as the charioteers, and as powerful beings with four wings and four faces. However, in modern times, Cheribum have evolved into chubby babies with wings.

THRONES - called the ‘many eyed ones’ have the duty of carrying out God’s decisions. They are often represented as fiery wheels.

DOMINIONS – their job is to regulate the duties of the other Angels and ensure that God’s wishes are carried out.

VIRTUES – the Angels of Grace who bring God’s blessings to Earth, usually in the form of miracles. Known as the ‘brilliant’ or “shinning'” ones, they are associated with acts of heroism and bring courage when needed.

POWERS - their job is to prevent the ‘fallen angels’ from taking over the world and keeping the Universe in balance. They are also seen as the Angels of birth and death.

PRINCIPALITIES – the Guardian Angels of cities, nations and rulers, and guards against the invasion of evil angels.

ARCHANGELS - probably the best known of all Angels. They carry God’s most important messages to humans. They also command God’s ‘armies’ of Angels in the constant battle with the “sons of darkness.”

ANGELS - the Celestial Beings closest to humans. They act as intermediaries between the Almighty and humanity. Often called our “Guardian Angels.”

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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Softmojo(m): 9:53am On Dec 21, 2014
Satan (Shaytan) wasn't an angel. He was a JINN.

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