tiergodson:


But if Lucifer was corrupted, doesn't it mean evil pre-existed him? Is there a different father of evil we don't know about?

emmyrichie:


I will reply you tomorrow when i load my laptop with data. Its uncomfortable using my phone has its limited to 250 characters.

DrJoe1:
i have to consult my 3yrs old daughter for the answer. 'cos the tales only make sense to kids.

astronautog:
who are u to question God??if u have a 5yrs old child,u keep a gallon of fuel at ur backyard and warn ur child not to go near it.then u come home one day and ur child has drank from d gallon,u ask him y he didn't listen to u and he says it was ur neigbour that told him to do it.won't u punish d childor u wud prefer someone askin u stupid question y u kept fuel in at ur backyard??

Youngsage:

- He wasn't just a devoted angel, he was very very powerful. As a matter of fact, he was an Archangel, the most powerful of the three that God created.
He was a magnificent being , with more intellect, wisdom, ability and beauty than the other angelic beings, was awesome to behold. No wonder God named him Lucifer which means 'Day Star' or 'Son of The Morning'.
To cut the long story short, it got to a point that he became discontent with his position, even as the angel of worship/music director in heaven, and prominence and wanted to overthrow God. His downfall began because Pride entered his heart, and because of his power, he got some angels on his side, one third of all the angels, this then led to a war between lucifer and his men, and the other archangel/angels.
He was defeated, and together with the fallen angels, was banished from Heaven and God changed his name to Satan/Devil meaning 'adversary', and these fallen angels are known today as Demons... And so on.

The spirit that polluted Satan, came from Satan himself, it entered him- from him that moment he allowed Pride take over him. Hence the origin of sin originated from the creation, not the creator. Never.
Although Satan, or Lucifer was not created evil, he originated His own sin which which was pride and rebellion against God.
The same sin Adam commited. Rebellion- deliberately disobeying God's intsruction- The first or original sin- on Earth...

MadCow1:



So in heaven there is no democracy.. Anybody who tries to replace God gets fhucked up.

AdeniyiA:

A man was created to be a free being,able to make choices, not stooges and to face the consequences of his actions(good or bad). To be able to do this there must be situations that provide basis for comparison, in this case God loves creating in twos ;man/woman, right/wrong, right/left, heaven /earth ,life/death etc
How will you appreciate light if there's no darkness? ,joy if there's no sorrow, wealth if there's no poverty ... and would we appreciate God if there is no Satan?
in fact in his own way the devil is working for God to establish properly the children of God .Job 1:6-12.
Tell if I'd ever know if God exist or is powerful if it's not because of the devil?
The power to resist the devil is with us, so if he is successful in tempting us it's our fault.
These are part of creation mysteries which we can not completely understand till thy kingdom come...

MISSCONGENIALITY:
we can only infer, cos if we reach a conclusion, then we will sees to seek for knowledge. We can only know what we can imagine. It will be contradictory saying that God who is Goodness and perfection himself is at the same time the creator of all evil. If we say he is the creator of evil, then there will be no need seeking his favour. He pre-existed evil. The fact that he created the angel who blow open the existence of Evil, it means the he pre-exited evil and not the other way round.

showafrica:


This is the answer, the devil is working for God in order to keep the human race.

astronautog:
who are u to question God??if u have a 5yrs old child,u keep a gallon of fuel at ur backyard and warn ur child not to go near it.then u come home one day and ur child has drank from d gallon,u ask him y he didn't listen to u and he says it was ur neigbour that told him to do it.won't u punish d childor u wud prefer someone askin u stupid question y u kept fuel in at ur backyard??

MudRaker:
Pride.

Lucifer was jealous of the privilege given to Man by God.

Lucifer felt Man was not deserving to hold such privilege.

Contrary to what you might think, Lucifer is not that bad a guy. His role is mainly to showcase through temptation that Man is not worthy of God's exhalation.

The demons who are actively against Man are the fallen Angels and their offspring.

This set of Angels led by Azazel committed grave sins by wanting to have the gift of life and live eternally.

God sent a message through Enoch to Azazel and warned him of his impending doom.

Azazel was imprisoned in space while some of his lieutenants were imprisoned in the Euphrates river.
After the flood, the souls of their

emmyrichie:
According to the tale, until a certain point, the devil (Lucifer) was a devoted angel.

My question is, where did the spirit that polluted the creature (Satan) emanate from?

astronautog:
who are u to question God??if u have a 5yrs old child,u keep a gallon of fuel at ur backyard and warn ur child not to go near it.then u come home one day and ur child has drank from d gallon,u ask him y he didn't listen to u and he says it was ur neigbour that told him to do it.won't u punish d childor u wud prefer someone askin u stupid question y u kept fuel in at ur backyard??

chrisviral:


What happens in your Family if any of your siblings tries to take your Father's position?

falseman:
Gen 3:22

And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

From that you should know the angels knew good from evil which means evil existed. Now you should know that for Good to exist there must be evil and evil didn't originate from Devil however he was the first angel to exhibit it in heaven.

Youngsage:

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I didn't say pride isn't evil.
I said it earlier. Pride originated from Lucifer, now Satan. He wasn't created with it, he wasn't created with sin. He was made blameless, but he became proud because of his beauty, he wanted to rule. He wanted God's position.
Sin, or evil started as a result of Satan's pride. This pride originated from his thoughts, it came from within Him. God cannot be in the prescence of sin, so he had to cast him out into his own realm, where he could be king.

tiergodson:


Fair enough but saying Lucifer is just the angel that "blew up the existence of evil" creates another twist that needs an explanation. If we agree that God did not create evil and Lucifer did not create evil either but was only the first in whom it was made manifest, then there's the question of where evil came from. Is there a different, malevolent creator that brought evil to being? Or did evil come into being of it's own accord like God?

astronautog:
reading through ur post I knw u dnt believe in God,but I ask u this,r u sayin witches and wizards are folk tales too??bro if witches do exist then there are higher powers,ask ur self how u suddenly came into d world,look around u see the way tins works in and outside this planet.they all follow a process life is no fluke sometin is responsible for all these so bro change ur school of thought #peace.

astronautog:
who are u to question God??if u have a 5yrs old child,u keep a gallon of fuel at ur backyard and warn ur child not to go near it.then u come home one day and ur child has drank from d gallon,u ask him y he didn't listen to u and he says it was ur neigbour that told him to do it.won't u punish d childor u wud prefer someone askin u stupid question y u kept fuel in at ur backyard??

DrJoe1:


why did god send him down for exercising the franchise god himself gave him? @bold
seems the biblical god is a drunk jokester? gave right to 'choice' then punishes if the choice is made. the same game he played in eden, planted forbidden tree in the garden then punished many generations 'cos a talking-snake over smarted his myopic creatures.

MadCow1:



That is my point exactly..

If my father tomorrow starts acting in a manner that I think is detrimental to the family, I have the choice of kicking him out [b][/b]and taking over.. But I know that choice comes with its consequences.

Now is it me that has pride for trying to replace my father or is it my father that has pride for not wanting to ever be replaced.