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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Nobody: 4:09pm On Dec 21, 2014
Some pple ehn....dia place in hell is aready reserved. Special seating. God forgive us all

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by LajaLaba: 4:11pm On Dec 21, 2014
semitunde:


At the very least, be the deacon! cool
grin grin correct guy ask them o o who born maga

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Lex11(m): 4:13pm On Dec 21, 2014
"Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind" - 1 Peter 5:2

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Nobody: 4:16pm On Dec 21, 2014
globalwaly:
Dr Uma Ukpai, the president and founder of Uma Ukpai Evangelistic Association, has said poor men of God did not receive divine calling.

He also told Daily Independent that it was untrue that people resorted to Church establishment out of joblessness.

According to Ukpai, “Jesus calls church business. He said, ‘I am about my father’s business’. He called church work business and what is business? Business is investment plus gain, minus loss. In church planting, no pastor can collect offering without giving account and survive. Every church has elders and the job of the elders is to make sure that account is given; it is not even publicly but given internally but the account must be given.

“Church is all about investment and the gain they make is not in money but in people; that is the gain they make. People also can be called money because for instance, if a pastor’s ministry can cause 20 women to get pregnant; those women will not forget the pastor. If a pastor’s ministry can produce one of the richest 10 men in the country, those men will not forget the man who made them what they are.

“When you are into ministry and you have what we call anointing, you have become profitable; you begin to touch lives; you begin to bless people; you begin to change the stories of families and your own story will change also because the man that waters others shall be watered by God. There is so much misinformation about the church. It is not all about money. If your pastor has anointing that can make the blind see, cripples walk, leprosy to disappear, that pastor is in money.

“The only man you can worry about is a man who has no anointing; a man who God has rejected; a pastor who God has not approved what he is doing. God does not bless what he does not approve. If God approves what a pastor is doing, he will have more money than he can spend. I am an example.”

On the forthcoming general elections vis-a-vis the challenges of Boko Haram insurgency, Ukpai said the crisis was part of Nigerian culture.

“There is nothing new happening. We are used to fighting; we are used to killing and duping one another. People try to magnify little problems here and there as things that can overwhelm or swallow Nigeria. Let me tell you, we shall still be here after 2015. All these problems are old problems. Nobody has been able to manufacture new ones.

“Even APC (All Progressives Congress) or PDP (Peoples Democratic Party), they have not been able to manufacture new problems. So, this country will still be here after 2015. All those stupid prophecies are from uninformed prophets, who have neither heard from nor seen God. Take it from me that this country will still be here and intact after 2015″.

Commenting on attacks on Christians in some parts of the country, Ukpai said persecution had been part of the Christian calling.

Quoting from the Holy Book, Ukpai pointed out that “The Bible promised us persecution; it did not say we shall not be persecuted. Secondly, persecution sharpens us and makes us pray better. I would rather have Christians persecuted than Christians not persecuted, because the more you persecute Christians, the more they will pray; the more they will seek after God. Those who seek after God shall know their God and those who know their God shall do exploit. So, in the attempt to harm us, they are sharpening us for a better and greater day.”
Pastors that are poor were not called by God
Ukpai, however, appealed to politicians and other well-meaning Nigerians to work towards the peace, unity and prosperity of the country.

His words: “We are praying for politics with principles; we are praying for politicians who have prepared themselves to serve and not to lord over us; and we are looking for politicians who are accountable to us and to themselves. But most importantly, we are asking for electorate who would not ask for bribes. Let nobody collect money to vote. If you collect money to vote, you have destroyed your moral right to account from the elected officers.

“We want our politicians to know that we cannot continue to run in circle; let them show some level of maturity. Finally, every politician must respect the sacredness of human beings. Let nobody be killed because of another person’s ambition. When anybody is killed, he cannot be reproduced and because we didn’t create anybody, we don’t have the right to kill anybody. So, can our politicians try to show good measure of maturity and intelligence, fear of God and preparedness to obey the laws of the land? They behave as though there are no laws. There are laws and we must obey those laws; that is what will help us move forward and move in a manner that will bring reward.


http://dailypost.ng/2014/12/20/pastors-poor-not-called-god-uma-ukpai/

Source: http://itsenews.com/pastors-poor-not-called-god-uma-ukpai/

How true is this? grin grin grin grin
I could recall my encounter with him at SU hall Umule Aba when I finished my Nysc 2007, when I look back that very day that I gave my widow's mite #1000 for the work at SU compound and now I begin to give God the glory. He made a comment and I heeded to it n today am like an iroko tree that birds of the come to perch on. I pray that God continue to strengthen Pastor Uma.

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by viper07: 4:19pm On Dec 21, 2014
hmm
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by donbenie(m): 4:23pm On Dec 21, 2014
Hehehe,Hear!Hear,Men of God Indeed..
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by otiigba1(m): 4:31pm On Dec 21, 2014
duni04:
Even with his yeye 419 business, he can't buy ordinary scissors to cut the hair his nose. Yeye man undecided
grin grin grin grin grin now that church is officially a buisiness, according to a pastor can they start paying us tax, and now i can open my own church too
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by otiigba1(m): 4:42pm On Dec 21, 2014
100Cents:
I have been keeping myself from creating a thread about this man till this came up.

This man drives in a convoy of 4 to 6 cars with plate numbers designed UMA 1, UMA 2, UMA 3 and so on. Police escort front and back.

Broda UMA, so money has taken over your thinking. Nah worldly things o.
besides what does he need police escort( security) for? he clearly do not trust his God, whats he afraid of?

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by otiigba1(m): 4:46pm On Dec 21, 2014
angry in other words every poor man will go to hell,or created by the Devil
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by MistadeRegal(m): 4:49pm On Dec 21, 2014
This man looks more like a cu/tist to me than a minister
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Sugarpeaches(f): 4:50pm On Dec 21, 2014
Uma ukpai 's teachings are always bible truth, if he's been misled God will help him.

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by jaytee01(m): 4:56pm On Dec 21, 2014
smartleo:


Of all the pastor said and explained,still you don't understand,may God open your eyes of understanding...
One of the suckers!

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by renzie: 5:40pm On Dec 21, 2014
people only see what they want to see. if you read through the article you will understand what he is saying. You can't have God's anointing upon your life and not be needed by men. Even if you stay in the most remote part of the world people will look for you because they want solutions to their problems. You can't be a man that solves people's problems and remain poor, because these people will in turn give gifts to you as they realize that God has used you to solve their problems. Can you imagine if you are wealthy but have the challenge of Child bearing and after prayer from a man of God your wife conceives won't you feel like appreciating the person God used to solve the problem? This is the summary of what the Man said. No one should twist what he said out of context. by the way the title of this post is misleading and only reflects the thinking of the Op. Some of these Men of God we speak against and call all manner of names on nairaland are men of solid Character and intergrity who will not take a pin from any man. Please read well before making costly reckless comments!

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by nikky5(m): 6:29pm On Dec 21, 2014
Pastor Chris Okotie once said that poor men are sinners . Now poor pastors have neither anointing nor divine calling. How of Christ disciples were wealth or rich? Am disappointed if this is coming from Uma Ukpai I respected so much.

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Danabu(m): 6:30pm On Dec 21, 2014
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"...the man who made them rich..."
who made them pregnant.

hhhmmmmm......


na man dey do am now no be God ba?

in that case John the Baptist, Elijah, even Jesus as well were not called cos they weren't rich.
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Geeweeny(m): 6:59pm On Dec 21, 2014
the truth is that God can never call a poor or lazy man to do his work, check in the bible God has never called a man who was idle or who was doing nothing.... God calls only ppl that are hardworking, ppl who can take risk for Him
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by damola14(m): 7:44pm On Dec 21, 2014
How rich was jesus christ? .I need an answer
globalwaly:
Dr Uma Ukpai, the president and founder of Uma Ukpai Evangelistic Association, has said poor men of God did not receive divine calling.

He also told Daily Independent that it was untrue that people resorted to Church establishment out of joblessness.

According to Ukpai, “Jesus calls church business. He said, ‘I am about my father’s business’. He called church work business and what is business? Business is investment plus gain, minus loss. In church planting, no pastor can collect offering without giving account and survive. Every church has elders and the job of the elders is to make sure that account is given; it is not even publicly but given internally but the account must be given.

“Church is all about investment and the gain they make is not in money but in people; that is the gain they make. People also can be called money because for instance, if a pastor’s ministry can cause 20 women to get pregnant; those women will not forget the pastor. If a pastor’s ministry can produce one of the richest 10 men in the country, those men will not forget the man who made them what they are.

“When you are into ministry and you have what we call anointing, you have become profitable; you begin to touch lives; you begin to bless people; you begin to change the stories of families and your own story will change also because the man that waters others shall be watered by God. There is so much misinformation about the church. It is not all about money. If your pastor has anointing that can make the blind see, cripples walk, leprosy to disappear, that pastor is in money.

“The only man you can worry about is a man who has no anointing; a man who God has rejected; a pastor who God has not approved what he is doing. God does not bless what he does not approve. If God approves what a pastor is doing, he will have more money than he can spend. I am an example.”

On the forthcoming general elections vis-a-vis the challenges of Boko Haram insurgency, Ukpai said the crisis was part of Nigerian culture.

“There is nothing new happening. We are used to fighting; we are used to killing and duping one another. People try to magnify little problems here and there as things that can overwhelm or swallow Nigeria. Let me tell you, we shall still be here after 2015. All these problems are old problems. Nobody has been able to manufacture new ones.

“Even APC (All Progressives Congress) or PDP (Peoples Democratic Party), they have not been able to manufacture new problems. So, this country will still be here after 2015. All those stupid prophecies are from uninformed prophets, who have neither heard from nor seen God. Take it from me that this country will still be here and intact after 2015″.

Commenting on attacks on Christians in some parts of the country, Ukpai said persecution had been part of the Christian calling.

Quoting from the Holy Book, Ukpai pointed out that “The Bible promised us persecution; it did not say we shall not be persecuted. Secondly, persecution sharpens us and makes us pray better. I would rather have Christians persecuted than Christians not persecuted, because the more you persecute Christians, the more they will pray; the more they will seek after God. Those who seek after God shall know their God and those who know their God shall do exploit. So, in the attempt to harm us, they are sharpening us for a better and greater day.”
Pastors that are poor were not called by God
Ukpai, however, appealed to politicians and other well-meaning Nigerians to work towards the peace, unity and prosperity of the country.

His words: “We are praying for politics with principles; we are praying for politicians who have prepared themselves to serve and not to lord over us; and we are looking for politicians who are accountable to us and to themselves. But most importantly, we are asking for electorate who would not ask for bribes. Let nobody collect money to vote. If you collect money to vote, you have destroyed your moral right to account from the elected officers.

“We want our politicians to know that we cannot continue to run in circle; let them show some level of maturity. Finally, every politician must respect the sacredness of human beings. Let nobody be killed because of another person’s ambition. When anybody is killed, he cannot be reproduced and because we didn’t create anybody, we don’t have the right to kill anybody. So, can our politicians try to show good measure of maturity and intelligence, fear of God and preparedness to obey the laws of the land? They behave as though there are no laws. There are laws and we must obey those laws; that is what will help us move forward and move in a manner that will bring reward.


http://dailypost.ng/2014/12/20/pastors-poor-not-called-god-uma-ukpai/

Source: http://itsenews.com/pastors-poor-not-called-god-uma-ukpai/

How true is this? grin grin grin grin
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by acorntree(m): 7:55pm On Dec 21, 2014
If not for the gullibility of most nigerians this so called man of GOD will not be making this type of statement. You've made them to be wealthy so they can now trample on your intelligence anyhow.its an insults on his church members.
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by EndtimeBlessing: 8:04pm On Dec 21, 2014
I can only comment when I know Uma Ukpai's definition of poverty.
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by judedwriter(m): 8:12pm On Dec 21, 2014
The anointing is not a money maker machine; it is God's power expressed through men to solve problems. The more anointed you are, the more problems you can solve; the more you solve people's problems the more they repay u in cash or kind wink this is why uma ukpai belives every truly called pastor who carries the anointing should b rich. Let's b careful how we speak against men of GOD.
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Nancywealth(f): 8:37pm On Dec 21, 2014
As a christain or a man of God our reward is not in worldly wealth but heavenly.
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Nobody: 8:41pm On Dec 21, 2014
wazobia50:
In spirit or in material? Jesus was poor materially but the reason why many pastors are materially rich is because they don't have the love of others in mind. Infact so church members can't afford the universities built by their churches and yet,their rich pastors can not subsidize for them.
Jesus said he became poor so that we might be rich...so I see no reason why you are disgruntled..as christians we are under the abrahamic convenant which is a convenant of abundant riches,possessions and what have you?....plus Jesus was not poor..study God's word indepthly..Jesus even wore the best of clothes...his cloth as at his cruxificion was a material known as ''PURPLE'' and twas worn only by the kings and nobles in dose days...which was y d soldiers nd centurions who crucified him casted lots to take Jesus's cloth coz twas valuable!!!..now hw cn u call Him a poor man...
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by mensdept: 9:27pm On Dec 21, 2014
No wonder why in other countries, when the revolution came, they not only killed all the politicians and crooks, they also went after the religious establishment. In Nigeria, there are more churches than there are factories. Every corner there is pastor, even "SENIOR" pastor.

Is this not crazy?

Yet, no progress in the country

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Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by playboy19(m): 9:29pm On Dec 21, 2014
heefeholuwah:
Jesus said he became poor so that we might be rich...so I see no reason why you are disgruntled..as christians we are under the abrahamic convenant which is a convenant of abundant riches,possessions and what have you?....plus Jesus was not poor..study God's word indepthly..Jesus even wore the best of clothes...his cloth as at his cruxificion was a material known as ''PURPLE'' and twas worn only by the kings and nobles in dose days...which was y d soldiers nd centurions who crucified him casted lots to take Jesus's cloth coz twas valuable!!!..now hw cn u call Him a poor man...

This is what happens to them when they don't read their bible and understand the kind of God they serve. If they take as much time as they spend on twitter or facebook to search the bible, they'd know that Jesus was never ever broke both materially and spiritually.

Jesus Christ fed thousands of people and yet they still believe he was broke?

Luke Chap. 6 vs 5" When Jesus then lifted up his eyes, and saw a great company come unto him, he saith unto Philip, Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?

6 And this he said to prove him: for he himself knew what he would do.

Emphasis on verse 6. A broke man can not already know what to feed 10-15,000 people (10-15,000 people because, back then, it was the culture of the israelite not to count women and kids, so the bible said there were 5,000 men. And we all know how our churches are this days, if you find 5000 men in a congregation, best believe the female and children population in the same place would be like triple the number of men. But to be modest, let's say they were 10-15k people all together.)

A broke man cannot feed 5 people, lest 15k people. So Jesus was never broke. What you could say is that, he never carried material things around, because they were readily spiritually available to him wherever he was. All he needed to do was to command whatever he needed to come to physical manifestation (The same way you feel secured when you have your ATM card on you, even though you have no cash.)

An example of the above is when Jesus was charged to pay His and peter's taxes...(Watch the first ATM ever recorded in action)

Matt 17 vs 27" However, so that we do not offend them, go to the sea and throw in a hook, and take the first fish that comes up; and when you open its mouth, you will find a shekel. Take that and give it to them for you and Me."

Jesus Christ was always with riches around him spiritually, so there is no way he could have been broke/poor. In fact, it was recorded that Judas was stealing from him, but that's another story for another day.

Long story short, Jesus was never a broke man. That line is just what the devil uses to rob you of your inheritance from God. Your God is an all sufficient God, so why should you live a pauper life. Study your bible and know your right. Know the plan, will and love of God for you.
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Escoboss(m): 10:59pm On Dec 21, 2014
False teachers!!!
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Amadaz(m): 11:05pm On Dec 21, 2014
To each his own
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by Edusouls(m): 11:09pm On Dec 21, 2014
see the man face self be like devil, i never liked this man from the first day i saw him, and i have heard his sermon he is no man of God..he is very mean hearted and loves money a lot..
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by smithereen: 11:30pm On Dec 21, 2014
Over 30 years ago, Uma Ukpai founded the miracle prosperity teaching that has landed our country where we are today.

Is he now trying to ruin us for good?
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by ezehy: 12:28am On Dec 22, 2014
when paul said jesus became was rich yet he became poor so dat we might be rich.
jesus was so rich dat is treasurer was a thief(judas iscarriot) but dey always had money at all times
jesus was so rich dat d crusifiers needed to cast a lot in other to get his very expensive cloth.
d poor paul was talking about was not finance but was dat he left heaven all his fathers wealth and came to earth
Re: Pastors That Are Poor Were Not Called By God- Uma Ukpai by ezehy: 12:54am On Dec 22, 2014
if u re poor in life it's what u choose so don't blame others God has made a convenant which cannot be broken if u are not under it.it's nobody's fault but urs galatians 3:29 if ye are christ ye are abraham's seed and heirs according to his promise.
john 1:12 read it........ how will a God be poor

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