DanIndia:
Eke40seven,

I know this because I myself have found out that most of the schools that will offer you a degree and that will be globally reputed in Germany, will 100% ask you to go via Uni-Assist.
Documents translations and grades conversions are not done by the Uni's. There is no way a UNI can do your documents evaluation from Nigeria and tell you they admit you on their own basis, I wouldn't advice you to do so. Nevertheless, a degree from any University is still a degree but not compared to one from a University that is renowned. You can argue with me as much as you want on this, it will only be an opinion but college accreditation will always remain a fact. How many number of schools in Germany doesn't admit their students via Uni-assist ?

And by the way, what does an exam like JAMB has gotta do with this. Jamb is a matric board exam, it's just like writing an Entrance exam into a college. Uni-assist is like WES. They evaluate your documents and transfer it to your college for admission. Infact, if you speak to most schools that you want to apply to them, they'd ask you to speak to Uni-assist and if you're financially constrained, you can first look up your degree on www.anabin.de before dumping a wholesome to Uni-Assist.

"The fact that a school is with or not with uni-assist doesn't make them accredited or not" This I know, I didn't mention if they weren't accredited. My comment was if there are not with Uni-Assist, there is a 70% chance they are not accredited. *30% still says they could be accredited. That's a whole lot, bro

You don't still understand. Uni-Assist is a PRIVATELY OWNED AGENCY however, with a nationally renowned and dependable track record while DAAD is in charge of all Tertiary institution matters in Germany, more like what NUC is to Nigeria. So DAAD's verdict is final because they are STATUTORILY in charge of TERTIARY institutional matters in GERMANY. So, if a school is not accredited you would likely not find it on DAAD.

Let me ask you, can you list the best and most internationally renowned school in the WHOLE of GERMANY?

I will list some of the top 5 in no particular order, TU Munich, LMU (University of Munich), University of Freiburg, University of Geottingen and I can categorically tell you that for 95% of their courses taught in English, they run the application using their system internally. So are you saying TUM, LMU and Freiburg, the best unis in Germany are not accredited
This is no hearsay. These schools will categorically tell you not to go through uni- assist or you would be wasting your time, however, they are the best and as legit as the chancellor's signature. So that statistics you gave about uni assist is completely flawed.

You know the reason why i fiercely disputed your claims? So many depend on this thread as an ultimate source of credible and vital info and a wrong one however small, would lead many astray.
Peace!

dafexe:


What's anabin exactly for? I Used the link but was in German, is there an English version.

Anabin gives you the possibility to check, if you have the neccesary prerequisites for Bachelor or Master studies in Germany. also, its like a directory for schools accepted in germany.

Its advisable to use google chrome for visiting such site. it has a translation option

Regards !

DanIndia:
Almost all the schools admit NON-EU students via Uni-assist. If the school doesn't go with Uni-assist, there is a 70% chance the school is not accredited and a little bit of advice for everyone, please choose an Institute that is accredited. Nor be all certificates get Value now o

Oga, in as much you have given some great insight and tips on this fora, I want to strongly disagree with the bolded statement. I can authoritatively mention over 10 schools which are among the top 50 universities in germany and does not conform with uni-assist.

Uni-assist educational services serves as an intermediary between foreign students and the university. due to the large applications been sent across every year, they may decide to employ the services of Uni-assist to help them with sorting, verification and pre-acceptance of intending applicants.

As a matter of fact, we cannot use this yardsticks to measure the ingenuity or authenticity of a university. Please, lets be guided so as not to mis-inform intending applicants

Mein zwei loffel !!!

To add to Eke schools

University of Bremen, University of applied science, Weingarten, University of Mannheim, Hochschule Mannheim amongst other..
Are you telling me these schools are not recognized?

Please lets be guided here

Thanks !

dolpaz:


Anabin gives you the possibility to check, if you have the neccesary prerequisites for Bachelor or Master studies in Germany. also, its like a directory for schools accepted in germany.

Its advisable to use google chrome for visiting such site. it has a translation option

Regards !

Okay. Danke Schön!

dafexe:

Okay. Danke Schön!

Bitte Schon !

Gemeinsam sind wir stark !!!

Eke40seven:


You don't still understand. Uni-Assist is a PRIVATELY OWNED AGENCY however, with a nationally renowned and dependable track record while DAAD is in charge of all Tertiary institution matters in Germany, more like what NUC is to Nigeria. So DAAD's verdict is final because they are STATUTORILY in charge of TERTIARY institutional matters in GERMANY. So, if a school is not accredited you would likely not find it on DAAD.

Let me ask you, can you list the best and most internationally renowned school in the WHOLE of GERMANY?

I will list some of the top 5 in no particular order, TU Munich, LMU (University of Munich), University of Freiburg, University of Geottingen and I can categorically tell you that for 95% of their courses taught in English, they run the application using their system internally. So are you saying TUM, LMU and Freiburg, the best unis in Germany are not accredited
This is no hearsay. These schools will categorically tell you not to go through uni- assist or you would be wasting your time, however, they are the best and as legit as the chancellor's signature. So that statistics you gave about uni assist is completely flawed.

You know the reason why i fiercely disputed your claims? So many depend on this thread as an ultimate source of credible and vital info and a wrong one however small, would lead many astray.
Peace!

I fully agree with your view man! From my own point of view, highly ranked schools (esp in sciences) evaluate students independently without going through Uni-assist, few go as far as asking you to pay for processing fee (e.g TU clausthal-highly rated in Geosciences) directly to their school, meaning they can do all the evaluations of Uniassist independently.
My opinion.

scofield03:


I fully agree with your view man! From my own point of view, highly ranked schools (esp in sciences) evaluate students independently without going through Uni-assist, few go as far as asking you to pay for processing fee (e.g TU clausthal-highly rated in Geosciences) directly to their school, meaning they can do all the evaluations of Uniassist independently.
My opinion.

u applying to TUC?

Achyever:

Alright. Can I do that tomorrow, Saturday?
Lubeck, MSc.

They only attend to ppl opening blocked acct frm Monday till wednesday btw d hours of 8am and 11am.

Obiwannn:


u applying to TUC?

No no! The processing fee is what discouraged me, I don't buy the idea of undergoing bank charges and stress to transfer €50 at this early stage, when one can easily use mastercard (which is not allowed)

E be like say my cgpa Don cast me on arrival,
2.74. Abeg has anyone been able to secure an MSc with
With a figure like that?
I just started writing some schools today to know if my
cgpa can get me the programs I want(engineering).
I noticed I haven't stumbled on something like graduate diploma for people like me.

Also must it be a wire transfer to uni- assist.
do they take any of our bank MasterCard.

scofield03:


No no! The processing fee is what discouraged me, I don't buy the idea of undergoing bank charges and stress to transfer €50 at this early stage, when one can easily use mastercard (which is not allowed)

well...I intend using futurewise for this...
he helps

standupguy:
E be like say my cgpa Don cast me on arrival,
2.74. Abeg has anyone been able to secure an MSc with
With a figure like that?
I just started writing some schools today to know if my
cgpa can get me the programs I want(engineering).
I noticed I haven't stumbled on something like graduate diploma for people like me.

Also must it be a wire transfer to uni- assist.
do they take any of our bank MasterCard.

Try schools in the East, if you've got working experience ensure to include a document to that effect when sending your applications. I got admitted to BTU(environmental Resource mgmt) with about the same CGPA though included i included a year and half work-experience document in my application(maybe that helped).Dont be deterred by a low CGPA, write as many schools as possible particularly schools that request that you send in your applications directly to them, these kind of schools tend to employ an holistic admission process i.e they look at all documents you send them particularly your undergrad grades in courses that are relative to what you intend studying for msc

Please someone should help me out here Eke40seven

Williamso:
Ok guys, I need your help here. Really confused here:

Please make sure that your official bachelor's transcript either shows credit points according to the ECTS credit point system or you have a diploma supplement attached that explains the credit point system of your university.

I don't think Nigeria uses the ECTS credit point system. And I am supposed to apply online, so how will I go about the bolded? Can someone help me explain what it is? where to get it? or if we even use the ECTS system.

Thanks.

This is something you fail to understand. DAAD is a directory, Uni-Assist is an agency that evaluates international degrees or certificates. You fail to still understand what shot 30 has got out of 100.

Universities do not, in most cases know anything about the way you grade scores in your country. WES, Uni-Assist are educational agencies that does all that for them.

I understand what you think you're doing. You're probably guessing because a uni has a University of Blah Blah makes it accredited. Now, I see you listed names here and when you go and search the top universities, you'll find these schools listed way below. I'm surprised you didn't mention Cologne too.

I study in a city where there are 5 or even more Universities, you see out of these universities, all of them has this name University of this and University of that and mine let's say its different. Now when I checked in the database of International renowned Universities, I found out my University was the only one accredited and listed on that website. In Germany, it was listed H+, there is a chance where those Universities you mentioned are listed as H- or an ordinary H elsewhere, I hope you know what that means, your degree is given a lower priority compared to others. This, you may not understand yet, once you do more research to contradict my view, you'll get to know what I'm talking about.

And by the way, I see you mentioned University of Munich, you believe because it's a University of a Capital city and that makes it known-ed more than other Universities!? There are even University of Applied Sciences that are better than that Uni (I strongly believe).

And you're the one who seem to not be understand my piece of advice. You're taking it way out of proportion.
Almost all the schools admit NON-EU students via Uni-assist. If the school doesn't go with Uni-assist, there is a 70% chance the school is not accredited and a little bit of advice for everyone, please choose an Institute that is accredited. Nor be all certificates get Value now o.

That was an ADVICE o. You can decide to follow it or not.

Eke40seven:


You don't still understand. Uni-Assist is a PRIVATELY OWNED AGENCY however, with a nationally renowned and dependable track record while DAAD is in charge of all Tertiary institution matters in Germany, more like what NUC is to Nigeria. So DAAD's verdict is final because they are STATUTORILY in charge of TERTIARY institutional matters in GERMANY. So, if a school is not accredited you would likely not find it on DAAD.

Let me ask you, can you list the best and most internationally renowned school in the WHOLE of GERMANY?

I will list some of the top 5 in no particular order, TU Munich, LMU (University of Munich), University of Freiburg, University of Geottingen and I can categorically tell you that for 95% of their courses taught in English, they run the application using their system internally. So are you saying TUM, LMU and Freiburg, the best unis in Germany are not accredited
This is no hearsay. These schools will categorically tell you not to go through uni- assist or you would be wasting your time, however, they are the best and as legit as the chancellor's signature. So that statistics you gave about uni assist is completely flawed.

You know the reason why i fiercely disputed your claims? So many depend on this thread as an ultimate source of credible and vital info and a wrong one however small, would lead many astray.
Peace!

No, Nigeria does not use the ECTS system. There is a formula which you can use to calculate the number of hours achieved(this could include practical lab classes, number of hours attended and exams) and you can get the number equivalent to ECTS credits. And by the way, a much simpler way is this. A proper full academic year is equivalent to 60 ECTS (Again, this depends on the college attended)

Williamso:
Please someone should help me out here

That is true. Most schools that even admit through Uni-assist will ask you to first send your documents for Pre-Evaluation before sending over to Uni-Assist. Kiel and many other universities operates this way.

scofield03:


I fully agree with your view man! From my own point of view, highly ranked schools (esp in sciences) evaluate students independently without going through Uni-assist, few go as far as asking you to pay for processing fee (e.g TU clausthal-highly rated in Geosciences) directly to their school, meaning they can do all the evaluations of Uniassist independently.
My opinion.

There are recognized.. Accreditation does not have anything to do with recognition.
You can refer to this: http://www.aacsb.edu/en/accreditation/accredited-members/
And read forums like these: http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/24724-european-university-accredited.html

You'll understand that even though a UNI is recognized, if the course is not accredited, the degree doesn't weigh as much as others. This is just to enlighten people. It's a pain to study for years and find out your degree does not catch the HR Manager's attention.

And yes, it's possible for a University to have some of its courses accredited and most of it's courses not accredited.

This is something most people do not take into consideration when applying to schools abroad. You can be admitted to a course, and your UNI is porsche but the course many not be recognized outside of that state even. This is again possible.
All I'm saying is - if you're planning to study abroad, do your home work, look for courses with accreditation and that are reputed. There's a huge competition in the job market, that even degrees contribute a lot to your job applications.
This is a just an advice, you can decide whether to follow it or not. No I sabi pass you for here.

dolpaz:
To add to Eke schools

University of Bremen, University of applied science, Weingarten, University of Mannheim, Hochschule Mannheim amongst other..
Are you telling me these schools are not recognized?

Please lets be guided here

Thanks !

Tu Munich admits via Uni-assist
University of Freiburg is accredited but not all of its programs are (refer:http://accreditation.org/university/de/albert-ludwigs-universit%C3%A4t-freiburg)

You can find a list of Institutes and programs accredited here: http://www.hs-kompass2.de/kompass/xml/akkr/maske.html
Accreditation agencies - http://www.akkreditierungsrat.de/index.php?id=5
(ASIIN - I believe is the highest though

Eke40seven:


You don't still understand. Uni-Assist is a PRIVATELY OWNED AGENCY however, with a nationally renowned and dependable track record while DAAD is in charge of all Tertiary institution matters in Germany, more like what NUC is to Nigeria. So DAAD's verdict is final because they are STATUTORILY in charge of TERTIARY institutional matters in GERMANY. So, if a school is not accredited you would likely not find it on DAAD.

Let me ask you, can you list the best and most internationally renowned school in the WHOLE of GERMANY?

I will list some of the top 5 in no particular order, TU Munich, LMU (University of Munich), University of Freiburg, University of Geottingen and I can categorically tell you that for 95% of their courses taught in English, they run the application using their system internally. So are you saying TUM, LMU and Freiburg, the best unis in Germany are not accredited
This is no hearsay. These schools will categorically tell you not to go through uni- assist or you would be wasting your time, however, they are the best and as legit as the chancellor's signature. So that statistics you gave about uni assist is completely flawed.

You know the reason why i fiercely disputed your claims? So many depend on this thread as an ultimate source of credible and vital info and a wrong one however small, would lead many astray.
Peace!

Anabin.de is a directory where you can check if your transcripts/waec /degree certificate can be evaluated as an entry certificate to pursue higher studies in germany. If it doesn't have it listed or accepted. I advise you not to pay Uni-assist.

dafexe:


What's anabin exactly for? I Used the link but was in German, is there an English version.

DanIndia:
This is something you fail to understand. DAAD is a directory, Uni-Assist is an agency that evaluates international degrees or certificates. You fail to still understand what shot 30 has got out of 100.

Universities do not, in most cases know anything about the way you grade scores in your country. WES, Uni-Assist are educational agencies that does all that for them.

I understand what you think you're doing. You're probably guessing because a uni has a University of Blah Blah makes it accredited. Now, I see you listed names here and when you go and search the top universities, you'll find these schools listed way below. I'm surprised you didn't mention Cologne too.

I study in a city where there are 5 or even more Universities, you see out of these universities, all of them has this name University of this and University of that and mine let's say its different. Now when I checked in the database of International renowned Universities, I found out my University was the only one accredited and listed on that website. In Germany, it was listed H+, there is a chance where those Universities you mentioned are listed as H- or an ordinary H elsewhere, I hope you know what that means, your degree is given a lower priority compared to others. This, you may not understand yet, once you do more research to contradict my view, you'll get to know what I'm talking about.

And by the way, I see you mentioned University of Munich, you believe because it's a University of a Capital city and that makes it known-ed more than other Universities!? There are even University of Applied Sciences that are better than that Uni (I strongly believe).

And you're the one who seem to not be understand my piece of advice. You're taking it way out of proportion.
Almost all the schools admit NON-EU students via Uni-assist. If the school doesn't go with Uni-assist, there is a 70% chance the school is not accredited and a little bit of advice for everyone, please choose an Institute that is accredited. Nor be all certificates get Value now o.

That was an ADVICE o. You can decide to follow it or not.

Please refrain from posting information that is misleading. Uni-assist is a service that helps some universities access and verify degrees from foreign countries. It is a private institution and has absolutely nothing to do with accreditation of universities or their programs; universities use them at will. The staturary body responsible for tertiary education in Germany is DAAD. Most of the highly ranked universities in Germany I know of don't use uni- assist.
If you need any clarification regarding accreditation of programs please refer to the daad website. They even rank universities and programs there.

ibk1010:


Try schools in the East, if you've got working experience ensure to include a document to that effect when sending your applications. I got admitted to BTU(environmental Resource mgmt) with about the same CGPA though included i included a year and half work-experience document in my application(maybe that helped).Dont be deterred by a low CGPA, write as many schools as possible particularly schools that request that you send in your applications directly to them, these kind of schools tend to employ an holistic admission process i.e they look at all documents you send them particularly your undergrad grades in courses that are relative to what you intend studying for msc

Thank you bro, one more thing, how do you wire money to uni- assist, i have a U.S currency dom account, which I have set to wire money to u.s but i have never done a single transaction to Europe.

@DanIndia..pls stop this! please! your information is like someone picking up a headline without reading an article(click-bait).. Accreditation of programs in Germany is not like mushroom schools in India!..You are in India and dishing out all these misleading info. Stop it now! Germany is not like that.

Getting 2million naira for an average family to put in a block account is not easy!, also do you think its easy for someone to send the sponsorship letter(stand as your guarantor by earning 1,500 euros after tax monthly?) and here you are talking about something that you understand very little to nothing about. Stop it! and let the thread keep moving positively. k

First of all, I'd tell you your tone of comment is rude, and I wasn't gonna respond to this but I think I should give you a piece of something you're looking for.
Getting 2 million naira for an average family to put in a block account is not easy (noone said it was). Naija people dey talk say person when no get mama, no dey carry sore for back. Studying abroad is beyond the 2million naira when you dey put for blocked account. Na because of people when don go there before turn liability na im make dem introduce this system (no offense to you or anyone). When you reach there, na ur head u wan scratch take feed yourself abi na under bridge you wan go stay for there ? And you dey talk say mushroom schools na im dey india. So you wan tell me say if you get chance take go India, you go deny am o, abi ? And FYI, nor be mushroom schools dey India. 100% says if you study abroad (And na true true you dey go school o), you'll have at least 2-3 Indians in your faculty/school. Mushroom schools when dem go, Germany no scrutinize dem reach you.

And sponsorship letter for 1,500 after tax ? If you are going to study abroad, you have to understand what you'll have to go through, there is no need of lamenting here. I just shared information that I strongly know of and if I read your post well, you just dey vex dey type, you nor even take time drink water at all, somebody offend you ?

And for everyone whey wan go any University for Germany or to any Uni abroad for the sake of Education, and nor be say na Obodoyinbo na him be ur main reason to go there, check for the right uni with the right accreditation (this will definitely help you stand out on a HR Manager's desk) and this will be for your own good. You can either take it or leave it. Some of the guys wanting to travel/study abroad you see will go to any Uni just for the sake of Visa and reach there and get into something else.

And again, I'm surprised to actually see some people turn this to something else. What part of 70% chance did you not understand ? 70% actually means 2 out of 3 (this is approximate) schools that are not using Uni-assist for their admission stands the chance of not being accredited universities. If you guys read it through, I used the words - 70% chance - chance means may or maybe not (uncertainty). I did not say for sure they are not accredited.. why all the fuss ?

gadafitruth:
@DanIndia..pls stop this! please! your information is like someone picking up a headline without reading an article(click-bait).. Accreditation of programs in Germany is not like mushroom schools in India!..You are in India and dishing out all these misleading info. Stop it now! Germany is not like that.

Getting 2million naira for an average family to put in a block account is not easy!, also do you think its easy for someone to send the sponsorship letter(stand as your guarantor by earning 1,500 euros after tax monthly?) and here you are talking about something that you understand very little to nothing about. Stop it! and let the thread keep moving positively. k

Mr Soweto, I don't understand your comment.
You just mentioned Uni-assist helps some universities access and verify degrees from foreign countries, and I wrote "Uni-Assist is an agency that evaluates international degrees or certificates" you want make I change the words to your own selection before you take understand the meaning of evaluation ?
Goat tie rope, rope tie goat, wetin be the difference ?

sowetto:

Please refrain from posting information that is misleading. Uni-assist is a service that helps some universities access and verify degrees from foreign countries. It is a private institution and has absolutely nothing to do with accreditation of universities or their programs; universities use them at will. The staturary body responsible for tertiary education in Germany is DAAD. Most of the highly ranked universities in Germany I know of don't use uni- assist.
If you need any clarification regarding accreditation of programs please refer to the daad website. They even rank universities and programs there.

If the school doesn't go with Uni-assist, there is a 70% chance the school is not accredited.
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If the school doesn't go with Uni-assist, then it means it is not accredited.

Does this help in any way ?

And guys, I'm sorry I do not mean to mislead anyone on here. I understand the fact that people are looking up to this thread to gain information before embarking on their journey to studying abroad. I posted my comment not to tell anyone that I know more than they do or for anyone to tell me they know more than I do.

All I have done was share my own piece of advice and I understand that not everyone will agree with me and that's expected given that this is a forum. And my advice can stand as an opinion and not a fact (though it appears not everyone sees it that way).

All the best to those who are planning to study in Germany or anywhere... and to those who are already studying there.

DanIndia:

bros...
the only correct info u gave is the fact that some courses in universities are not accredited.
after choosing schools and courses, i personally verify their accreditation before applying. i hope others do same.

BUT YOUR SUBMISSION ON UNI-ASSIST OGA, IS JUST B.S!!

The fact that I gave is accreditation. Read the comment through again. It's a chance not an assurance. I'm responsible for what I say, I'm not responsible for what you understand.
And I'm glad you agree that some courses in Universities are not accredited.
Finally, a breath of fresh air. Whew!

Obiwannn:

bros...
the only correct info u gave is the fact that some courses in universities are not accredited.
after choosing schools and courses, i personally verify their accreditation before applying. i hope others do same.

BUT YOUR SUBMISSION ON UNI-ASSIST OGA, IS JUST B.S!!

when a program is not yet accredited or going through accreditation in German Uni's, they clearly state this and most times you will see asterik(***) beside such program. As for the Uni's being accredited, I can tell you all in Germany that you use to apply for a residence permit are accredited not your 70% assumption!

Enough of this, I bet you if you have that opportunity you'l be the first to jump at it . State what you know with facts(bring out evidence or data not presumption or assuming whatever!)

DanIndia:
Mr Soweto, I don't understand your comment.
You just mentioned Uni-assist helps some universities access and verify degrees from foreign countries, and I wrote "Uni-Assist is an agency that evaluates international degrees or certificates" you want make I change the words to your own selection before you take understand the meaning of evaluation ?
Goat tie rope, rope tie goat, wetin be the difference ?

I'm not sure you read my entire post before replying. My point is that uni- assist has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with accreditation of courses/programs. If you don't know something, it's best to just keep quiet.
If you need any information about accreditation of courses go to daad.de
Please let's not post assumptions here in order not to mislead people.

If I have the opportunity to do what, I'll jump at what Studying in Germany ?? If I want to study anywhere, all I have to do is Apply, there is no jumping at it or whatever. You seek knowledge, you get it.

Gadaffi, I am not here to talk back at you. This is Nairaland. It's a forum where I believe people can share ideas and opinions. Some to you could be wrong, and just because to you it is wrong, doesn't mean in its entirety, is wrong.
And I have not come across a course with asterisks indicating that it is not accredited. Even universities do not list their unaccredited courses as it not being unaccredited for whatever reason (this is to what I've seen). You could be right.

gadafitruth:
when a program is not yet accredited or going through accreditation in German Uni's, they clearly state this and most times you will see asterik(***) beside such program. As for the Uni's being accredited, I can tell you all in Germany that you use to apply for a residence permit are accredited not your 70% assumption!

Enough of this, I bet you if you have that opportunity you'l be the first to jump at it . State what you know with facts(bring out evidence or data not presumption or assuming whatever!)