EVarn:
so only meat is food?.after seeing all those behemoth pyramids of packaged groundnut,you still deny picture evidence?.
we also produce beef,pork and fish here too.

When people talk about the food industry, your yam or whatever you're on about does not feature. Beef always features. Maize is even a big traded commodity.

Nigeria is an unknown - an "other".

Keep dreaming.

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/css/330/six/

DieVluit:


Not 'boers', comrade. Not boers.

lol...askies

Msauza:



At least, we have a complete local defence industry to invigorate our aging and obsolete weapons and give them a completely new face. We have done it with out centurion tanks, Mirage jets, G5 and 6s, etc. We have a big industry that we do not even rely on the outside world to feed our military scrap chips that they do not need anymore. We fought the bush war under strict arms embargoes with locally produced weapons. Tell us who will maintain your ageing and obsolete weapons?

The most important weapons in South African military are all imported made in Europe, the weapons your defense industry makes are only good for defeating Lesotho and Burundi.

Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Heroine Submarine, Olifant/Centurion tanks, Starstreak missile, are all imported
.

Patchesagain:


Nigeria has ZERO modern attack helicopters
Nigeria also has ZERO dedicated attack helicopters

SAAF operates and owns 11 Rooivalk

Nigeria has never deployed in a contested airspace.

South Africa has NEVER deployed even one single Gripen jet or Hawk jet in any contested airspace
.

EVarn:
no nation has requested help from you....
lol,you can hardly track a terrorist,terrorists are known to be almost untrackable.
with the way your intelligence is,you can barely find your president if he gets lost.

Other than to spy on Islamic ectrmists, eco groups, Iran, NGOs, extra. Or to. put the CIA in contact with hammas

agaugust:


South Africa has NEVER deployed even one single Gripen jet or Hawk jet in any contested airspace
.

It nice living a country not at war.

Patchesagain:


Nothing to wash away

Pity you cant wash away the fact that we caught your spies with only the use of our customs officials.

Not on a spy mission, those men were on an arms purchase transaction that was very legal and lawful, just not announced to public. The South African arms dealers knew they were coming. Spies don't give notice to the person they want to spy on.

Mumu

DieVluit:


I don't see how that changes what's been posted.

it does.

agaugust:


The most important weapons in South African military are all imported made in Europe, the weapons your defense industry makes are only good for defeating Lesotho and Burundi.

Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Heroine Submarine, Olifant/Centurion tanks, Starstreak missile, are all imported
.

Lest we forget, Nigeria wanted to import weapons made by us and earned a multi-million Dollar forfeiture for its troubles.

Now that (and your post) is pathetic.

EVarn:
it does.

In your dreams it does. Yes.

agaugust:


The most important weapons in South African military are all imported made in Europe, the weapons your defense industry makes are only good for defeating Lesotho and Burundi.

Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Heroine Submarine, Olifant/Centurion tanks, Starstreak missile, are all imported
.

The largest branch in the SANDF is the infantry. Getting more money and with more man power than any other group. It is our most importaned element. We can loose every thing you menstioned and still be able to defend our selfs with just our infantry. In Angola it was our infantry that did the bulk of the work.

FighterPilot:


Yours have none at all.We arrested your number one terrorist and prosecuted him when your intelligence failed.

That fact that a local Nigerian terrorist entered your country shows your level of insecurity. Same way Rwandan assasins killed an ex-Rwandan officer inside South Africa, lol, even Rwandans enter South Africa with guns, kill people in broad daylight and escape under your funnel shaped noses....incompetence galore....Boko Haram can even assassinate Jacob Zuma in Pretoria. Lol.

DieVluit:

When people talk about the food industry, your yam or whatever you're on about does not feature. Beef always features. Maize is even a big traded commodity.
Nigeria is an unknown - an "other".
Keep dreaming.
http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/css/330/six/

Nigeria has beef,tasty juicy beef.
we also have maize in huge quantity.
The reason why we dont feature in your bogus charts is because we do not export either meat or maize.
but we produce them in huge quantities for internal consumption.

agaugust:


That fact that a local Nigerian terrorist entered your country shows your level of insecurity. Same way Rwandan assasins killed an ex-Rwandan officer inside South Africa, lol, even Rwandans enter South Africa with guns, kill people in broad daylight and escape under your funnel shaped noses....incompetence galore....Boko Haram can even assassinate Jacob Zuma in Pretoria. Lol.

Yet he left Nigeria where he commuted his crimes and enters SA where he was not a threat to.


That Rwandan officer was under SA protection. He left voulantarly. The assassins where felt with. Before hand there was both SA could do since no law had been broken yet.
http://www.citypress.co.za/politics/intel-tried-save-rwandan-spy-boss/

saengine:
Did State Security spy on Defence Intelligence’s satellite programme?


Another apparent revelation by the Al Jazeera/Guardian Spy Cables has led long-time spy satellite seeker after the truth, David Maynier, to ask whether the State Security Agency (SSA) was collecting intelligence on a Defence Intelligence satellite surveillance programme.

Maynier, who heads up the opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) party's defence portfolio in Parliament and is also deputy shadow minister in intelligence matters, said the most recent release of information by the Al Jazeera investigative unit showed alleged "extensive co-operation" between Russia and South Africa on a secret satellite surveillance programme.

"A South African Secret Service, now State Security Agency (Foreign Branch), 'Intelligence Information Report' dated August 28, 2012, and classified 'Top Secret' reveals significant new information on strategic co-operation between Russia and South Africa."The SSA's information report reveals for the first time: that Russia and South Africa were co-operating on a secret satellite surveillance programme, codenamed Project Condor; that the satellite surveillance programme was to be used for strategic military purposes; that the satellite surveillance programme would eventually culminate in the launch of a satellite by Russia on behalf of South Africa; that the aim was eventually to integrate the Russian and South African satellite surveillance programmes to provide wider coverage; and that 30 Russian technicians were working on the satellite surveillance programme in South Africa.

"Until now there has been no information about 'Project Condor' in the public domain," he said adding the satellite launch reference "almost certainly" refers to Defence Intelligence's R1.4 billion Kondor-E synthetic aperture radar satellite, "launched on or about December 19 last year under the codename Project Flute".

"Bizarrely, it appears SSA could have been collecting intelligence about a Defence Intelligence satellite surveillance programme."We cannot confirm all the information in the report is accurate but it certainly suggests co-operation between Russia and South Africa on the satellite surveillance programme appears to have been more advanced and carried out on a larger scale, than previously thought," Maynier said.

Above story says, maybe, likely, possibly, might have....I award you advanced diploma in rumour mongering
.

EVarn:
Nigeria has beef,tasty juicy beef.
we also have maize in huge quantity.
The reason why we dont feature in your bogus charts is because we do not export either meat or maize.
but we produce them in huge quantities for internal consumption.

And you still a food importer.

agaugust:


Above story says, maybe, likely, possibly, might have....I award you advanced diploma in rumour mongering
.

Both the SANDF and Russia confirmed the deal some time ago. This only points out that SA civilian intelligence need to soy on Russian intelligence to find out what SA military intelligence was doing. Has you not the leak is all from Civlian intel not miltatry.

andrewza:

Other than to spy on Islamic ectrmists, eco groups, Iran, NGOs, extra. Or to. put the CIA in contact with hammas

indeed,yet every country on earth that even remotely has an intelligence agency has infilterated your country.

Patchesagain:


Nigeria is a net food importer
http://agriculture.columbia.edu/events/past-events/inaugural-seminar-the-nexus-of-agriculture-environment-and-livelihoods/transforming-nigerias-agriculture/

This really backfired on you!!

The main staple foods of Nigerians are Yam, Cassava, Beans, Millet, Soghurm, Plantain....all of them don't even grow in Europe or America. The only big food import is rice, and local production has been multiplied on large scale. Wheat is also imported because it cannot grow in Africa, sure South Africa too imports wheat.

We also banned import of Chicken, we produce all our poultry and beef....Fulani cows aplenty.

Nigeria has tons of Maize storage silos as national strategic grain reserves.

We have food security.

DieVluit:

In your dreams it does. Yes.

yeah,in your dreams

andrewza:


And you still a food importer.

SA also imports food materials,you dont produce everything you eat.no country produces everything they eat.

DieVluit:


Okah was convicted for crimes committed in Nigeria. Be ashamed.

Other countries keep having to clean up your mess.

South Africa opened it's mouth wide enough for Nigeria to shiit out it's mess down your throat, and you swallowed our pooh-pooh as usual
.

EVarn:
indeed,yet every country on earth the even remotely has an intelligence agency has infilterated your country.

That's not actually stated. What was said in 2009 is that there where 140 spies in SA. All countries run spy teams has in more than one spy. Only major powers in the Intel world have been spoken about. Not one report even menstions Nigeria.

EVarn:
SA also imports food materials,you dont produce everything you eat.no country produces everything they eat.

We import out of season products and food that we don't grow. They not food for the masses.

FighterPilot:



What only worries us is these small girls who thwart your intelligence by just doing ABC. Beware!! You are in danger, Monkey

Religious fanatic is NOT a professional spie doing espionage
.

agaugust:


Religious fanatic is NOT a professional spie doing espionage
.

Actually they are. Many have support teams, cover ID's, use the tatice a d every thing. They conduct covert actions like any other spy would.

andrewza:


That's not actually stated. What was said in 2009 is that there where 140 spies in SA. All countries run spy teams has in more than one spy. Only major powers in the Intel world have been spoken about. Not one report even menstions Nigeria.

lol.of course there will never be any mention of nigerian intelligence,whats the point of spying if everyone knows that you are spying?
the truth is that; there are elements in your government,parliament and especially opposition party who aid our spies in intel gathering,and also covert ops{knowingly and unknowingly}.
in recent years,there has been an escalation of nigerian intelligence covert operations in south africa,especially owing to boko haram.
Your secret service is rubbish,go and sleep my friend.

andrewza:


We import out of season products and food that we don't grow. They not food for the masses.

they are not food for the masses?!
so it is the government alone that sits down,finish the food that you import and lick their fingers?,hmm?,is it the government that eats the foods that your import?.

EVarn:
lol.of course there will never be any mention of nigerian intelligence,whats the point of spying if everyone knows that you are spying?
the truth is that; there are elements in your government,parliament and especially opposition party who aid our spies in intel gathering,and also covert ops{knowingly and unknowingly}.
in recent years,there has been an escalation of nigerian intelligence covert operations in south africa,especially owing to boko haram.
Your secret service is rubbish,go and sleep my friend.

And this was all knowen by our Intel serves. All so they have little real control of the acstions of other departments. These are the group's that Where menstioned.

agaugust:


The old apartheid intelligence officers of BOSS have been flushed out, what you have now is a rookie incompetent SSA controlled by blacks employed under BEE program
.

That's a lie. All former apartheid officers are still holding on their positions and are still fully employed by our government departments. The ANC when it came to power it never flush them out nor demoted them. The only thing that the ANC has done was to introduce the affirmative action adopted from America. Under the ANC government it became difficult for white men to easily climb up the ladder in ranks or management echelon.


The scenario here is that, if there are three applicants [one black man, one black woman and one white man] applying for a position that requires that the incumbent must hold an MBA and all three have MBAs or equivalent qualification. The policy provides that the post should be offered to a black woman in order to redress the imbalances of the past.

So, now these whites see this action as unfair because during apartheid they used to be offered positions without interviews or contests. Now, they have polluted the net with propaganda to brainwash the pea-sized brains like that of @agaugust.

EVarn:
they are not food for the masses?!
so it is the government alone that sits down,finish the food that you import and lick their fingers?,hmm?,is it the government that eats the foods that your import?.

I don't think you know who the masses are.

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