sweetcocoa:
I'm a woman but can we leave sentiments aside for a minute and try to be realistic?

Having read both sides of the story and now kinda confused because everything is still not clear, [size=18pt]I must say that, the OP must be very very verbally abusive, she doesn't sound like someone who respects people at all. [/size]

Yea, she's hurt and all but is this how to vent? Why all the names calling? I don't remember the OP calling her names in his thread, he wrote that she deserved the slap(which is wrong) because she wouldn't stop with the insults and she's here proving him right.

I'm not supporting the dude o but this babe no try at all.

bestestgirl:


Chai see as you sound like Angel Michael, I had to look out of my window to be sure I was still on earth.
Kontinu

sweetcocoa:
I'm a woman but can we leave sentiments aside for a minute and try to be realistic?

Having read both sides of the story and now kinda confused because everything is still not clear, I must say that, the OP must be very very verbally abusive, she doesn't sound like someone who respects people at all.

Yea, she's hurt and all but is this how to vent? Why all the names calling? I don't remember the OP calling her names in his thread, he wrote that she deserved the slap(which is wrong) because she wouldn't stop with the insults and she's here proving him right.

I'm not supporting the dude o but this babe no try at all.

pickabeau1:



LOL

You don't need to look forward too much

There are those who have the news of babyosisi

Pity those threads get deleted promptly...

mcdokwe:
i know she has an account, I posted what I did so she could read it too, if not that you are more interested in insulting me, you'd also see where I said I hope she'd post hers tøo. That said, It is my sincere hope that others learn from this. It's so funny how people say stuffs here but I have sworn not to let them make me say things I shouldn't. You guys are strangers, we may seem enemies now but I'm deeply convinced that if the need arises, she would stand up in defence of my person.
It is unfortunate that she didn't say the situations in which I tell her she's vulnerable. Lol.
For the records, I tell her she makes herself vulnerable when after her moodswings and the accompanying unguided insults come begging, yes I cuddled her in cases like that and remind her they're uncalled for and leaves her at the mercy of my forgiveness (frequently) now I wouldn't want even my enemies daughter to be that vulnerable. Will she also say I don't tell her that? It would have been much better if after the insults she allows every thing die down on its own without having to apologize for something that would be repeated. I invited an ex, (she won't say the lady came around for something and was a bit stranded when I called just to ask if I could invite her without the so called invitee knowing) yes and I apologised but it wasn't a problem when her friends [males included] help themselves to my pot. (a broke ass nigga) that I was, fending for her friends as well. Lol.
You see, I loved you doesn't mean I can't do without you, I fought for us not because we were the best but because I believe we've seen the worst of each other and deserve the best when we could be. But my only advice would be that you desist from saying unsbustansiable lies, so that in the future you'd have very few things to be apologetic for. You could be better and I want to see that part

mcdokwe:
Sweetcocoa I didn't harass any of her friends neither did I find them sexually appealing. Yes, I said I enjoyed the sex, yep, after my silence wouldn't make her keep quite. I still couldn't match her and for my own sanity have forgotten all she said and that was long before the so called beating.

mcdokwe:
Like I always say, even though you would and continue to insult me, I'm not about to say disparaging things about you or family here.
Thank God you are here finally and would hopefully state the truth. Even though I don't remember which friend you said I harrassed, I remember I had to sacrifice my relationship with the so-called ex to be with you, I remember how you tried your best to be friends with her and moan that I leave her, she was at an advantage but loved you and came for you, thankfully she was wise and gave me all the support to be with you instead, but remains a good friend whose impact in my life can't be overstated.
The post you refer to wasn't a pity party or a plea for you to come back(I've done that, don't regret it and like I said to you, I'm proud my ego didn't stop me) it was rather an advice to people out there not to create reasons for others to hit them, I only tried using my story to pass a message.
I remember saying I said some words but never could match you in words, saying I used you to explore sex was one of them but the least I could say as sex was explorable and we both explored each other.
It has been making the rounds that I insulted your dad to his face, lol. I won't say I didn't because I talked proud when I should be ashamed I got his daughter pregnant. But for those that would discern, I got a shocking call from your so called pastor, and then your dad that I shouldn't do anything I might regret, both sounding as though I had plans to harm anyone when the only thing I asked was for you to come so I could see you and my child and go back to base, I didn't understand but having wished to get across to your dad without success, I figured that could be my chance to sort out things with him and then offered to travel to meet him so we could sort things out, but your dad said I shouldn't bother coming but should rather wait till more than a year to try again. In that fit of anger (admittedly stu.pid) I asked if he expected me to abandon my own child like he abandoned you over a year and that was the insult.

babyosisi:


Can you be quiet!!

pickabeau1:


Simple

sweetcocoa:
Okay, You are not totally without blame, I will keep saying I'm a woman and that's to lay emphasis on the fact that I understand how most women behave especially when it involves a fight.

One thing I agree with you on totally is that you can and will never be able to match the OP word for word, it's just not possible except she didn't write what I read. It's just that since you hit her and many don't understand that verbal abuse is as bad as physical abuse, you will forever remain the beast for hitting a woman.

She didn't refute all your claims, she's just trying to tell us why she did what she did which is leaving me confused because you are saying you didn't do all those things.

One thing is clear, this woman does not respect you and is very immature, how can you call the father of your child all those names in a public forum?

You on the other hand deserve some strokes of the cane for letting it linger for so long, and you sound like you did her a favor by being with her, that must have affected her self esteem and further damaged her, you two should stay away from each other for now atleast.

Ochek:


Wow! Who are you and where do you come from?
I like your closing.
Are you married? No? Can I apply?

fem29:


Ermmm who do you think you are, back off!, how dare you

kaboninc:


Hehe

fem29:


See me see wahala oo, wasn't even bloody talking to her

mcdokwe:
i know she has an account, I posted what I did so she could read it too, if not that you are more interested in insulting me, you'd also see where I said I hope she'd post hers tøo. That said, It is my sincere hope that others learn from this. It's so funny how people say stuffs here but I have sworn not to let them make me say things I shouldn't. You guys are strangers, we may seem enemies now but I'm deeply convinced that if the need arises, she would stand up in defence of my person.
It is unfortunate that she didn't say the situations in which I tell her she's vulnerable. Lol.
For the records, I tell her she makes herself vulnerable when after her moodswings and the accompanying unguided insults come begging, yes I cuddled her in cases like that and remind her they're uncalled for and leaves her at the mercy of my forgiveness (frequently) now I wouldn't want even my enemies daughter to be that vulnerable. Will she also say I don't tell her that? It would have been much better if after the insults she allows every thing die down on its own without having to apologize for something that would be repeated. I invited an ex, (she won't say the lady came around for something and was a bit stranded when I called just to ask if I could invite her without the so called invitee knowing) yes and I apologised but it wasn't a problem when her friends [males included] help themselves to my pot. (a broke ass nigga) that I was, fending for her friends as well. Lol.
You see, I loved you doesn't mean I can't do without you, I fought for us not because we were the best but because I believe we've seen the worst of each other and deserve the best when we could be. But my only advice would be that you desist from saying unsbustansiable lies, so that in the future you'd have very few things to be apologetic for. You could be better and I want to see that part

fem29:



Meehn meehn, reading this I don't think this guy is a bad guy, we can all make terrible mistakes hat can haunt us for the rest of our lives

Or maybe he is just a good orator, I dunno.

McDowell please please I beg of you, work on yourself, decide NOW to never in your life to EVER hit a woman again in your life no matter what she says or does. Can you see what it has done to your life. Also when you can see that a relationship has become toxic as this one obviously was, end it! Immediately!

Please just be looking for a way you can be a part of your daughters life now. Softly softly does it, no gra gra or threats, if you are not paying for your child, start right now, give as much as you can. Then go to her family and prostrate yourself, apologise from the bottom of your heart for impregnating then beating up their daugther. Eventually you will be able to come to some compromise regarding access. It will get better in the end. cococandy et all I beg of you please take it easy on this guy, build up don't tear down

Odunharry:

confirmento...hoping to read your opinion

kaboninc:


I never said you do have a perfect life because I know you don't.

sweetcocoa:
I'm a woman but can we leave sentiments aside for a minute and try to be realistic?

Having read both sides of the story and now kinda confused because everything is still not clear, I must say that, the OP must be very very verbally abusive, she doesn't sound like someone who respects people at all.

Yea, she's hurt and all but is this how to vent? Why all the names calling? I don't remember the OP calling her names in his thread, he wrote that she deserved the slap(which is wrong) because she wouldn't stop with the insults and she's here proving him right.

I'm not supporting the dude o but this babe no try at all.

cococandy:
My dear Wetin be my influence on the matter? They have decided. Aren't we strangers to them?

mcdokwe:
Loln @ I am broke. I remember she has asked for financial favour on behalf of her friends, male and females from me, how many times did she seek favour from them on my behalf, the only time she went hungry were the times I left the house comfortable there was food in the kitchen only for her friends who have the knowledge our pots are always warm to come and eat everything up leaving her hungry until I return. I'm broke only to the point that I couldn't provide her wants which weren't basic. Which unfortunately I regret too because I am deeply convinced she deserved them only that I wasn't going out of legitimate mean to provide them.

My Plans?
Miraijj is a wonderful lady, the mother of my most precious jewel, a friend I've been through hell with and I love her, not necessarily in the sensual way even if she fights hard to put it to her head that I don't. Her happiness matters whether outside or with me and my prayer is that she gets it even without me. Having recognised no human is perfect and her problem is one she could put in check if she wished to and put aside her utopian adaptation of life, contrary to belief, I respect and never took her for granted and minding the fact that My daughter's best shot at life is "if we can mutually and respectfully" work together for her own good and hope the future might still have plans for us. Otherwise, she isn't the only one who feels she can get someone better.

mcdokwe:
Sweetcocoa I didn't harass any of her friends neither did I find them sexually appealing. Yes, I said I enjoyed the sex, yep, after my silence wouldn't make her keep quite. I still couldn't match her and for my own sanity have forgotten all she said and that was long before the so called beating.

Rose2014:


I beg to disagree o
This guy rants more than a woman
Don't let him sweet talk u like he did op and started mocking her and her family

The guy is worse than a beast and op is lucky he didn't kill her
Imagine his rants to his father in law, talk less of the lady in question

I smh in disgust for him

fem29:


Just that you were kinda going in hard on d guy

I think they were both a bit crazy and just bad for each other.

cococandy:
oh no you didn't. You implied that since I don't have a perfect life, I should not talk badly about violence and those justifying it.

mcdokwe:
Loln @ I am broke. I remember she has asked for financial favour on behalf of her friends, male and females from me, how many times did she seek favour from them on my behalf, the only time she went hungry were the times I left the house comfortable there was food in the kitchen only for her friends who have the knowledge our pots are always warm to come and eat everything up leaving her hungry until I return. I'm broke only to the point that I couldn't provide her wants which weren't basic. Which unfortunately I regret too because I am deeply convinced she deserved them only that I wasn't going out of legitimate mean to provide them.

My Plans?
Miraijj is a wonderful lady, the mother of my most precious jewel, a friend I've been through hell with and I love her, not necessarily in the sensual way even if she fights hard to put it to her head that I don't. Her happiness matters whether outside or with me and my prayer is that she gets it even without me. Having recognised no human is perfect and her problem is one she could put in check if she wished to and put aside her utopian adaptation of life, contrary to belief, I respect and never took her for granted and minding the fact that My daughter's best shot at life is "if we can mutually and respectfully" work together for her own good and hope the future might still have plans for us. Otherwise, she isn't the only one who feels she can get someone better.

mcdokwe:
i know she has an account, I posted what I did so she could read it too, if not that you are more interested in insulting me, you'd also see where I said I hope she'd post hers tøo. That said, It is my sincere hope that others learn from this. It's so funny how people say stuffs here but I have sworn not to let them make me say things I shouldn't. You guys are strangers, we may seem enemies now but I'm deeply convinced that if the need arises, she would stand up in defence of my person.
It is unfortunate that she didn't say the situations in which I tell her she's vulnerable. Lol.
For the records, I tell her she makes herself vulnerable when after her moodswings and the accompanying unguided insults come begging, yes I cuddled her in cases like that and remind her they're uncalled for and leaves her at the mercy of my forgiveness (frequently) now I wouldn't want even my enemies daughter to be that vulnerable. Will she also say I don't tell her that? It would have been much better if after the insults she allows every thing die down on its own without having to apologize for something that would be repeated. I invited an ex, (she won't say the lady came around for something and was a bit stranded when I called just to ask if I could invite her without the so called invitee knowing) yes and I apologised but it wasn't a problem when her friends [males included] help themselves to my pot. (a broke ass nigga) that I was, fending for her friends as well. Lol.
You see, I loved you doesn't mean I can't do without you, I fought for us not because we were the best but because I believe we've seen the worst of each other and deserve the best when we could be. But my only advice would be that you desist from saying unsbustansiable lies, so that in the future you'd have very few things to be apologetic for. You could be better and I want to see that part

cococandy:


I can see through this BS. Not buying the act.

sweetcocoa:
Okay, You are not totally without blame, I will keep saying I'm a woman and that's to lay emphasis on the fact that I understand how most women behave especially when it involves a fight.

One thing I agree with you on totally is that you can and will never be able to match the OP word for word, it's just not possible except she didn't write what I read. It's just that since you hit her and many don't understand that verbal abuse is as bad as physical abuse, you will forever remain the beast for hitting a woman.

She didn't refute all your claims, she's just trying to tell us why she did what she did which is leaving me confused because you are saying you didn't do all those things.

One thing is clear, this woman does not respect you and is very immature, how can you call the father of your child all those names in a public forum?

You on the other hand deserve some strokes of the cane for letting it linger for so long, and you sound like you did her a favor by being with her, that must have affected her self esteem and further damaged her, you two should stay away from each other for now atleast.