I forgot to say goon morny sir

naijaracist:
No Hausa man has a good intension for an Igbo man
GEJ TILL 2019

What does our law book says with regards to state creation?

DickDastardly:

So sorry you now hold the powers of "banning" no more cause i'm sure you would have dealt with this guy your way before you were booted out of office. Bros live with it. Btw, you have no means of being a standard guage for other peoples opinion. If u hate what he wrote about kwankwaso, kindly go back to bed.

When insults get into a discussion, it becomes a waste of time and I hate that.

Kwankwaso has the right to say whatever he likes, that person does too but the difference here is that you should look at things from Kwankwaso's point of view too.

The truth is that creating a state does not really do much.

If you want to argue about population then by all means we need to create more states in the North then.

If you argue Land mass, the North still gets more states.

The issues in the SE borders around population density which creating a new state does not solve. We need to look for solution to problems not just do cosmetic changes

Mynd44:
The biggest problem here is that we don't want to look at issues from another person's views.

While the SE might argue eqity in number of states and population which is not so important as creating a new state does not increase the land mass, they should argue more in line of increased allocation due to population density so as to combact problems relating to a high population to land mass ratio.

And how do you get an increase in revenue allocation without an additional state.
Have you considered the factors of balanced representation & equallity in national voting processes.
The population and land mass canvassed by north has only created non viable states that are big liabilities to the federation.

nzeadachie:
NIGERIA IS NOT ONE AND IT CAN NEVER BE ONE

exactly!

aijazNija:



Aboki! shot up! you don't have any point. Anu ofia!

Now I am a "Northerner"?

Damn! My place of Origin is really confusing to me ooo.

First I am from the SE, then SW, then someone said I am from Delta and now the North?

At least federal character is reflecting in my actions....

People are seeing the evil plans of the Arewas and the still shout "change" for APC.

Honestly, anybody from southern Nigeria that votes for buhari is the BIGGEST FOOL.

Nigerians, christians and people from southern Nigeria who vote Buhari by saturday will live to regret it.

Its not about Jonathan, its about breaking the strong grip of the Hausa Fulani Hegemony on Nigeria.

Vote wisely , lets destroy born to rule by the Fulanis through our votes for Jonathan.

oduastates:
When the British left, there were 3 regions. Go back to the three regions and carve out the states within that structure.

You have come to the issue of restructuring which is what Nigeria desperately needs now but unfortunately APC is the only part of Nigeria resisting such.

The South East deserve one additional state to bring it to par with other zones in the country. And it will definitely be done after the election those who dont like it can wait till they get to power so they can create more states in Kano.

luvinhubby:

1. And how do you get an increase in revenue allocation without an additional state.

2. Have you considered the factors of balanced representation & equallity in national voting processes.

3. The population and land mass canvassed by north has only created non viable states that are big liabilities to the federation.

1. Now that should be a topic for discussion. Getting increased revenue to combact effects of a high population density. Kwankwaso has not mentioned that and that should be the counter arguement.

2. Balanced representation is part of what Kwankwaso also raised. Representation should go viz-a-viz polulation and not populatiom density. Does the SE have a higher population that the NW (which he used as an example)

3. It is not only the North that has non viable states. Hell majority of the states in Nigeria are not economically viable. The issue of states being economically viable has to do with the National economy and our dependence on oil.

luvinhubby:

You have come to the issue of restructuring which is what Nigeria desperately needs now but unfortunately APC is the only part of Nigeria resisting such.

How is this about APC?

Mynd44:

When insults get into a discussion, it becomes a waste of time and I hate that.

Kwankwaso has the right to say whatever he likes, that person does too but the difference here is that you should look at things from Kwankwaso's point of view too.

The truth is that creating a state does not really do much.

If you want to argue about population then by all means we need to create more states in the North then.

If you argue Land mass, the North still gets more states.

The issues in the SE borders around population density which creating a new state does not solve. We need to look for solution to problems not just do cosmetic changes

Ok sir

Atouke:
what has land mass and Population got to do with state creation? whats the population and land mass of Rhode island compared to the population Of texas?
Whats the population and land mass of Delaware compared to that of California?
Bringing it back home whats the population and land mass of Ekiti or Bayelsa compared to Lagos or Oyo?
The two are diametrically opposed,

States in Nigeria are created based on Geopolitical zones All other zones have 6 or more states Except the South East, That's an imbalance that needs to be corrected as it affects the political well being and milieu of the SE in terms of federal representation as they have less ministerial Appointment, Less house of representative members, less Senators, Less federal Allocation etc compared to geopolitical zones with 6 or more states.

Kwankwaso as usual is reasoning like a true "born to rule" imperialist that believes that the South of the country is supposed to be enslaved by the North with no Rights at all, But too bad for him Nigeria of today is not the Nigeria of the 70's, 80's or 90's where the "born to rule" did as they pleased with no one to challenge them. Kwankwaso and his fellow born to rule should wake up and smell the coffee, we are in a New Nigeria where the reasoning and Attitudes of the past is best left in the past.

Going forward every Nigerian must be treated with respect, equity and justice irrespective of where they come from, The Enjoyment of majority status in the Nigerian congress by the NW where Kwankwaso is from is sweet for him, Having and equal strength in the SE will be justice granted, for what is good for the Goose is equally good for the Gander!
Long live Nigeria
Long live GEJ
Viva the new SE state!

God bless you for this!!!

Mynd44:

How does creating a new state in the SE solve issues in the SE?

You just mentioned that Imo and Anambra are densely populated, does a new state change the fact that that geograhical location is densely populated? Does it solve the problems associated with a high populated density?

We should look for solution to our problems not fight over who has the bigger dick

An extra state gives the region more representatives on the Federal parliament.

Yomieluv:
On a fairer note,the north deserves a new state,but why did GEJ had to mention that to score a political point.

Such comment is divisible,not necessary when the polity is volatile now.

do you know that north has 19 states with north west having 7? states while the south has 17 with SE having 5. SO if you want to be fair, who deserves another state

Sunnybobo3:


An extra state gives the region more representatives on the Federal parliament.

Now this is another interesting point. But does the issues of the SE border on non/lack of/incomplete representation or does it border on Leadership/economic issues?

If we want to start this issue of state creation, Kano, Katsina and Oyo too should also get on board and yell they want more states.

I expect a reply to Kwankwaso....one which details how an extra state benefits the lives of the people living in the SE. When I mean people living there I don't mean indigenes but everyone who lives there

Mynationnd44:

How does creating a new state in the SE solve issues in the SE?

You just mentioned that Imo and Anambra are densely populated, does a new state change the fact that that geograhical location is densely populated? Does it solve the problems associated with a high populated density?

We should look for solution to our problems not fight over who has the bigger dick

It is too early to deal with your trademark mischief, but I will try. . I am not msasuring any dikc wth you, I am asking for an additional state for the SE. UNTILL YOU CONVINCINLY EXPLAIN TO ME WHY OTHER REGIONS SHOULD HAVE MORE STATES THAN THE SE, I AM NOT TAKING YOU SERIOUS! Apart from additional allocations to help improve the living standards in this area, a new state means more additional representation at the federal legislature, executive and sundry appointments. Today we worry if the SE can muster enough votes to push any serious bill that serves her interest in the National assembly. With just 5 states with 3 senators each, the SE is againt the core north with a combined 13 states and counting. Make no mistakes about it; I am not your typical apostle of state creation. I believe in regions. The regions can then create as many districts,, zones, LGAs as they want. . But as long you insist that states should be the vehicle for sharing national resources, as long as you are holding tight to your greater quantity of states while preaching to me to run away from the 'dangers' in having more states,, as long as appointments and local goovernments creations and funding are done based on number of state, I can only see mischief in your swanky argeuments.

Demdem:
I Av repeatedly stated that we don't need any state anywhere in Nigeria. At best, we should return to the first republic regional government module.
Only the extremely gullible will believe Jonah-daft when he said he will give ibos additional state.
To acheive that, majority of states have to agree to it and constitution change. I don't see this happening.

Weren't States and regions represented in the National CONFERENCE?

I believe the consensus reached at the National Conference should be implemented.

You can't be wiser than all the participants who negotiated through the interest and diversity to approve recommendations that were acceptable to all.

Mynd44:

When insults get into a discussion, it becomes a waste of time and I hate that.

Kwankwaso has the right to say whatever he likes, that person does too but the difference here is that you should look at things from Kwankwaso's point of view too.

The truth is that creating a state does not really do much.

If you want to argue about population then by all means we need to create more states in the North then.

If you argue Land mass, the North still gets more states.

The issues in the SE borders around population density which creating a new state does not solve. We need to look for solution to problems not just do cosmetic changes

How dare you. . Why should you goad me to look at issues from one kwankwanso point of view, when your kwankwaso started of crying for ethnic solidaity in his statement. Is it not obvious that he is fighting for his own interest?

If they should have another state, how are they going to fund it?
My guess is oil.

eagleeye2:
If they should have another state, how are they going to fund it?
My guess is oil.

Those questions were answered in the National Conference before the recommendation.

Are you the most intelligent in Nigeria?

Mynd44:


1. Now that should be a topic for discussion. Getting increased revenue to combact effects of a high population density. Kwankwaso has not mentioned that and that should be the counter arguement.

2. Balanced representation is part of what Kwankwaso also raised. Representation should go viz-a-viz polulation and not populatiom density. Does the SE have a higher population that the NW (which he used as an example)

3. It is not only the North that has non viable states. Hell majority of the states in Nigeria are not economically viable. The issue of states being economically viable has to do with the National economy and our dependence on oil.

The only state that cannot sustain itself in south east Ebonyi & the only state that can sustain itself in north west is kano & they have 7 states while south east has 5.
Land mass yes, population very suspicious as every census in nigeria had been largely rigged to favour the north ( does it take rocket science to know that lagos is far more populated than kano).
Representation, equity in national voting & balance in funding, south east are cheated in all these.

owobokiri:


It is too early to deal with you trademark mischief, but I will try. . I am not msasuring any dikc wth you, I am asking for an additional state for the SE.
1.UNTILL YOU CONVINCINLY EXPLAIN TO ME WHY OTHER REGIONS SHOULD HAVE MORE STATES THAN THE SE, I AM NOT TAKING YOU SERIOUS!

2. Apart from additional allocations to help improve the living standards in this area, a new state means more additional representation at the federal legislature, executive and sundry appointments.

3. Today we worry if the SE can muster enough votes to push any serious bill that serves her interest in the National assembly. With just 5 states with 3 senators each, the SE is againt the core north with a combined 13 states and counting. Make no mistakes about it; I am not your typical apostle of state creation. I believe in regions. The regions can then create as many districts,, zones, LGAs as they want. . But as long you insist that states should be the vehicle for sharing national resources, as long as you are holding tight to your greater quantity of states while preaching to me to run away from the 'dangers' in having more stas,, as long as appointments and local goovernments creations and funding are done based on number of state, I can only see mischief in your swanky argeuments.

If you will quote me, please don't edit the username: that's the only way it shows in my mentions

1. I have not said any region should have more states. This issue of state creation is simply silly if you ask me. The military clearly abused it and created states so as to become popular else I don't see why Ekiti is a state. It should still be a part of Ondo.

2. You say more allocatioms right which will improve the standards of living. when has more allocation ever translated to a highet standard of Living in Nigeria? Bayelsa gets more money then Imo. Imo has a larger population but can you say the standard of living in Bayelsa is highet than Imo? And whats it with Nigerians and Appointments? what does having a minister from your local government do to you other than the feeling of "That guy's family house is close to ours"? I have spoken about representation.

3. You just said something about Bills in the senate but the flaw is that you lumped the North together and singled out the SE. You make it sound like the North and SE are competing but Kwankwaso only mentioned the NW na. If there is a bill of urgent inportance, 3 extra senators does not actually make up the numbers does it which is why you have to have representatives who are convincing and can lobby well enough. Plus how many of such bills have actually been proposed and shot down?

as a South East man I must admit that any further State creation is a questionable idea as it just increases the cost of Governance. Ok I understand the need for fairness and the need to get the SE up to 6 like other zones but if the consequence of doing this will mean having to create even more states in other zones to continue the imbalance I will say then lets forget it!

Creating too many States have the consequence of stretching the National budget even more and the cost of Governance is too high. If anything I think we should scrap the whole States and go back to regional governments and LGA chairmen and get rid of all these larger than life Governors!

But what gets me is when you say give the South East one more State for the sake of fairness the likes of Kwakwanso kicks against it and want the SE to earn it using all sorts of population statistics. And yet even though the South is not responsible for the illiteracy level/poverty in the North I have seen Southern politicians support lopsided education policies that gives more funding to the North so that they can catch up with the rest of us. We do not argue that the illiteracy in the North is not due to any government policies and hence the North and its citizens should go and strive and educate themselves just like Southerners have been doing.

I think Legislators from the SE and South in General in the NASS need to start playing something-for-something politics! Any vote for any issue that selectively benefits the North must be supported only when concessions/support on other issues that selectively benefits other regions have been extracted and voted for. We may not have enough votes to pass legislation in our interest but I am sure we have enough votes prevent other legislations.

If what Kwakwanso is proposing is NASS gridlock along ethnic and regional lines then lets give it to him and see who succumbs first!

Mynd44:

How is this about APC?

They were the only organisation in Nigeria that refused to participate in the national confab that came up with the best document aimed at restructuring nigeria.

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Mynd44:

How does creating a new state in the SE solve issues in the SE?

You just mentioned that Imo and Anambra are densely populated, does a new state change the fact that that geograhical location is densely populated? Does it solve the problems associated with a high populated density?

We should look for solution to our problems not fight over who has the bigger dick

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luvinhubby:

The only state that cannot sustain itself in south east Ebonyi & the only state that can sustain itself in north west is kano & they have 7 states while south east has 5.
Land mass yes, population very suspicious as every census in nigeria had been largely rigged to favour the north ( does it take rocket science to know that lagos is far more populated than kano).
Representation, equity in national voting & balance in funding, south east are cheated in all these.

Really? lets take out the federal allocations to the states and see how viable they really are

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Mynd44:

And as usual, the typical Nigerian turns to insults.

I am out of here abeg

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Mynd44:
The biggest problem here is that we don't want to look at issues from another person's views.

While the SE might argue eqity in number of states and population which is not so important as creating a new state does not increase the land mass, they should argue more in line of increased allocation due to population density so as to combact problems relating to a high population to land mass ratio.

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owobokiri:


How dare you. . Why should you goad me to look at issues from one kwankwanso point of view, when your kwankwaso started of crying for ethnic solidaity in his statement. Is it not obvious that he is fighting for his own interest?

How did he start with ethnic solidarity? did he mention tribe?

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Yomieluv:
On a fairer note,the north deserves a new state,but why did GEJ had to mention that to score a political point.

Such comment is divisible,not necessary when the polity is volatile now.

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Mynd44:

The issues raise here are Land mass AND population not a ratio of population to land mass.

The difference between the two is that one is a thing of geographical size and population while another is population density.

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