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Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Nobody: 12:26pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
You smartly dodged the point I wanted from you, but you are not that smart, are you? Are you simply telling me that since you are not religious, if you see your girlfriend, whom its obvious you are in love with in a brothel, you'll skip it? Its part part of fun, isn't it? Thanks to @bolded that you know that it is a strict religious nation and its because of its strictness that it has maintained its 6 AD culture and maintained its human dignity. That is why God is strict with man, without being strict, man would have turned miserable.

I thought you said God was Love. Love is not strict,love allows unlimited freedom. Certainly that God of yours is either fabricated or a control freak. A control freak is someone who tried to take what they do not deserve. So far you God deserves nothing but ridicules

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Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by johnydon22(m): 12:29pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
You smartly dodged the point I wanted from you, but you are not that smart, are you? Are you simply telling me that since you are not religious, if you see your girlfriend, whom its obvious you are in love with in a brothel, you'll skip it? Its part part of fun, isn't it? Thanks to @bolded that you know that it is a strict religious nation and its because of its strictness that it has maintained its 6 AD culture and maintained its human dignity. That is why God is strict with man, without being strict, man would have turned miserable.
You see exactly wat i mean? You just wanted to derail the thread.. **sighs**
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 12:33pm On Mar 27, 2015
So when you were young, you were beaten by you dad, weren't you? Now that you are of age, what did you think of their action? Is it good to be free from doing good? Is it bad to be a slave to doing good?
ifeness:


I thought you said God was Love. Love is not strict,love allows unlimited freedom. Certainly that God of yours is either fabricated or a control freak. A control freak is someone who tried to take what they do not deserve. So far you God deserves nothing but ridicules
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Nobody: 12:34pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
You smartly dodged the point I wanted from you, but you are not that smart, are you? Are you simply telling me that since you are not religious, if you see your girlfriend, whom its obvious you are in love with in a brothel, you'll skip it? Its part part of fun, isn't it? Thanks to @bolded that you know that it is a strict religious nation and its because of its strictness that it has maintained its 6 AD culture and maintained its human dignity. That is why God is strict with man, without being strict, man would have turned miserable.

How do you even compare these two things? Having brothels means they're miserable? Really? So Americans are miserable compatrd to Saudis? That must be a very weird definition of miserable.

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Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 12:43pm On Mar 27, 2015
johnydon22:

So the fictious plagiarized myth is to warn you to revert and avoid another (delusional) impending doom?... Seems like yahweh loves threatening people and enjoys serial killings and destruction.. sad
Like I wrote, you can only say God is evil if He punishes good people. God is very strict and has strong laws against evil, so that the seemingly unstoppable evil wills of man can be evenly matched, just like the tough laws of Arabia. Do you see wisdom in this?
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by boome1: 12:46pm On Mar 27, 2015
You seem to be missing something here. The reason for the flood was to clean up the blood line of man that had been polluted by the nephillim. If you study the story of the flood deeply you will note that a particular verse there reads Noah was perfect on his generation, in other word Noahs lineage had not been interbred with by the fallen ones and on top of that he was righteous
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 12:49pm On Mar 27, 2015
DProDG:


How do you even compare these two things? Having brothels means they're miserable? Really? So Americans are miserable compatrd to Saudis? That must be a very weird definition of miserable.
It was used as an example. America is a sex perverse nation compared to Arab became of its light laws, treating evil and good as equal, if I may lend words from Vladimir Putin. A nation cannot be free, no it is impossible! Either a slave of righteousness or evil.
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by simplex2: 12:50pm On Mar 27, 2015
Not to mention that the rain water will totally dilute the salt water in the oceans and therefore all aquatic life that lives on salt water will totally die.
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by johnydon22(m): 12:50pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Like I wrote, you can only say God is evil if He punishes good people. God is very strict and has strong laws against evil, so that the seemingly unstoppable evil wills of man can be evenly matched, just like the tough laws of Arabia. Do you see wisdom in this?
So the millions of children that might have been drowned in the noah fable are not good enough? Is the alleged good noah better than those little ones that were subjected to such cruel death? How can only one man be moral in the entire world and you believed this.. ??
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by johnydon22(m): 12:52pm On Mar 27, 2015
boome1:
You seem to be missing something here. The reason for the flood was to clean up the blood line of man that had been polluted by the nephillim. If you study the story of the flood deeply you will note that a particular verse there reads Noah was perfect on his generation, in other word Noahs lineage had not been interbred with by the fallen ones and on top of that he was righteous
So millions of other people were killed, millions of children just to kill the naphilims. . why not snap his hands and all the naphilims will drop dead.

So you find this enough reason to commit world wide genocide, infacticide and murder.. Seriously

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Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Nobody: 12:58pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
It was used as an example. America is a sex perverse nation compared to Arab became of its light laws, treating evil and good as equal, if I may lend words from Vladimir Putin. A nation cannot be free, no it is impossible! Either a slave of righteousness or evil.

You should come up with better examples then. SA has one of the worst human rights violations records. Their laws are sharia(although they insist they're not). Do you consider Islamic theocracy more progressive than secularism?
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by johnydon22(m): 1:04pm On Mar 27, 2015
DProDG:


You should come up with better examples then. SA has one of the worst human rights violations records. Their laws are sharia(although they insist they're not). Do you consider Islamic theocracy more progressive than secularism?
It's obvious the guy wants to derail this thread, pr0ton's thread and not his. . . he shouldn't be obliged. . . this was my reason for not answering when he first asked me a question that was way off point from the thread, i knew he was trying to steer the thread of course. bro lets forget this and move on with the thread, if he wants to start up a discussion based on this issue he raised, then opening a thread aint that hard in nairaland. we will gladly enter.

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Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Pr0ton: 1:09pm On Mar 27, 2015
boome1:
You seem to be missing something here. The reason for the flood was to clean up the blood line of man that had been polluted by the nephillim. If you study the story of the flood deeply you will note that a particular verse there reads Noah was perfect on his generation, in other word Noahs lineage had not been interbred with by the fallen ones and on top of that he was righteous

So Noah was perfect now becomes Noah's lineage was perfect. And also, quote where it is written in the Bible that the reason for the flood "was to clean up the blood line of man that had been polluted by the nephillim".
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Nobody: 1:10pm On Mar 27, 2015
johnydon22:

It's obvious the guy wants to derail this thread, pr0ton's thread and not his. . . he shouldn't be obliged. . . this was my reason for not answering when he first asked me a question that was way off point from the thread, i knew he was trying to steer the thread of course. bro lets forget this and move on with the thread, if he wants to start up a discussion based on this issue he raised, then opening a thread aint that hard in nairaland. we will gladly enter.

I'm just curious to see if a Christian will defend Islamic theocracy.
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 1:11pm On Mar 27, 2015
DProDG:


You should come up with better examples then. SA has one of the worst human rights violations records. Their laws are sharia(although they insist they're not). Do you consider Islamic theocracy more progressive than secularism?
Another country that comes to mind is Singapore, who Lee Kwan Yew led with iron hands, has one of the highest execution rates in the world. When criticized on his dictatorship behavior (criminalized chewing gum), he said Singapore would not be what it is today if it practiced the so called 'freedom'. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Pr0ton: 1:12pm On Mar 27, 2015
johnydon22:

It's obvious the guy wants to derail this thread, pr0ton's thread and not his. . . he shouldn't be obliged. . . this was my reason for not answering when he first asked me a question that was way off point from the thread, i knew he was trying to steer the thread of course. bro lets forget this and move on with the thread, if he wants to start up a discussion based on this issue he raised, then opening a thread aint that hard in nairaland. we will gladly enter.

Good challenge and choice.
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 1:17pm On Mar 27, 2015
johnydon22:

So the millions of children that might have been drowned in the noah fable are not good enough? Is the alleged good noah better than those little ones that were subjected to such cruel death? How can only one man be moral in the entire world and you believed this.. ??
If God left them alone, won't they sin like their fathers and go to hell? But God in His infinite mercies took them to His eternal abode. Today, 4500-6000 babies are aborted in America daily. http://www.timeforchrist.org/ministry/abortion/
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by johnydon22(m): 1:22pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
If God left them alone, won't they sin like their fathers and go to hell? But God in His infinite mercies took them to His eternal abode. Today, 4500-6000 babies are aborted in America daily. http://www.timeforchrist.org/ministry/abortion/
what? they would have turned bad like their parents, says who?
seriously i find it hard to discuss this cus it sickens me when people try to justify such barbaric act.. Aborting baby is all over the world and it is evil, i can never abort my child.. same goes to murdering all the children of the world in a horrifying death such as drowning. . . please this discussion just pulled me out of my good mood. #Call a spade a spade.. evil is evil.. #Simple.

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Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by johnydon22(m): 1:24pm On Mar 27, 2015
DProDG:


I'm just curious to see if a Christian will defend Islamic theocracy.
he will when it suites his bigoted motive.. thats the same guy you will see, tearing and bashing and cursing in muslim threads.

He will be fast enough to condemn islam and isis and bokoharam but tries to justify even worse act committed by yahweh in this jewish mythological fictious book..its tiresom and blatantly hypocritic embarassed

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Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 1:39pm On Mar 27, 2015
johnydon22:

what? they would have turned bad like their parents, says who?
seriously i find it hard to discuss this cus it sickens me when people try to justify such barbaric act.. Aborting baby is all over the world and it is evil, i can never abort my child.. same goes to murdering all the children of the world in a horrifying death such as drowning. . . please this discussion just pulled me out of my good mood. #Call a spade a spade.. evil is evil.. #Simple.
Let me pretend the act is evil, how was Noah supposed to take the kids into the ark?
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Nobody: 1:39pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Another country that comes to mind is Singapore, who Lee Kwan Yew led with iron hands, has one of the highest execution rates in the world. When criticized on his dictatorship behavior (criminalized chewing gum), he said Singapore would not be what it is today if it practiced the so called 'freedom'. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew

While I don't know much about Singapore, let's evaluate and make a comparison with the OP. . .

First of all, I'm aware of some of their ridiculous laws such as the ban on chewing-gum but I do not see how laws like that and similar contributed significantly to any type of development. What I can say is that they has great policies. Even if such laws did, such development is not exclusive to Singapore. In other words, the 'iron fist' is not required.

Why would you assume Yahweh had/has to be strict(genocidal) for humanity to develop? How does wiping out 99.9% of the human race equate to Lee Kuan Yew's legacy? Even at that, as the OP said, his plan to rid evil did not work and being omni-scient, he knew it won't all along and decided to go along with it. . . undecided
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Nobody: 1:44pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Let me pretend the act is evil, how was Noah supposed to take the kids into the ark?

Same way he took thousands of species of animals(including mosquitoes) on the ark. Unless you think animals>children.
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by johnydon22(m): 1:45pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Let me pretend the act is evil, how was Noah supposed to take the kids into the ark?
wasn't even talking about noah, According to the noah mythology, yahweh caused the flood didnt the little children matter? what type of monster would murder all the children alongside every other person to clear the world of evil is that not much worse evil than those people allegedly committed.

Why kill everh being on earth in the first plave. Was evil eradicated after the flood? nope! So what exactly was the purpose of the flood when it didnt even eradicate evil. . this is exactly pr0ton's reason for opening this thread. for someone claiming omnipotent is a pretty stupid move.. This is exactly what you get when some desertic goat herders copy someone else's mythology into his and africans trying to hold jewish copied mythology as true..
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 1:46pm On Mar 27, 2015
DProDG:


While I don't know much about Singapore, let's evaluate and make a comparison with the OP. . .

First of all, I'm aware of some of their ridiculous laws such as the ban on chewing-gum but I do not see how laws like that and similar contributed significantly to any type of development. What I can say is that they has great policies. Even if such laws did, such development is not exclusive to Singapore. In other words, the 'iron fist' is not required.

Why would you assume Yahweh had/has to be strict(genocidal) for humanity to develop? How does wiping out 99.9% of the human race equate to Lee Kuan Yew's legacy? Even at that, as the OP said, his plan to rid evil did not work and being omni-scient, he knew it won't all along and decided to go along with it. . . undecided
Like I said, it is for the purpose of admonition, just the way God did not spare Moses that the Israelites should know how much hates disobedience. If you actually value life that much, why do you feed on plants and animals?
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 1:46pm On Mar 27, 2015
johnydon22:

wasn't even talking about noah, According to the noah mythology, yahweh caused the flood didnt the little children matter? what type of monster would murder all the children alongside every other person to clear the world of evil. Was evil eradicated after the flood? nope! So what exactly was the purpose of the flood when it didnt even eradicate evil. . this is exactly pr0ton's reason for opening this thread. for someone claiming omnipotent is a pretty stupid move..
admonition
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 1:48pm On Mar 27, 2015
DProDG:


Same way he took thousands of species of animals(including mosquitoes) on the ark. Unless you think animals>children.
Yes, he took humans with them too. If not, you can never exist.
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by johnydon22(m): 1:50pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
admonition
Admonition? so he would wipe out every creature on earth just to make some silly points? #Nawa ooo
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Nobody: 1:52pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Like I said, it is for the purpose of admonition, just the way God did not spare Moses that the Israelites should know how much hates disobedience.

Okay, so according to you, he did it for admonition while Gen 6:13 (NIV) says...
"So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth"

Your bible is wrong, you're right.

If you actually value life that much, why do you feed on plants and animals?
Are you serious-____-
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 1:58pm On Mar 27, 2015
DProDG:


Okay, so according to you, he did it for admonition while Gen 6:13 (NIV) says...
"So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth"

Your bible is wrong, you're right.


Are you serious-____-
What does that mean?
Yes, I'm serious. You feed on life, yet you claim to value it.
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Misogynist2014(m): 2:00pm On Mar 27, 2015
johnydon22:
Admonition? so he would wipe out every creature on earth just to make some silly points? #Nawa ooo
Maybe you will understand it if I use 'warning'.
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by johnydon22(m): 2:03pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Maybe you will understand it if I use 'warning'.
same thing, so you find it good to kill everything on earth just to serve as a silly warning? and this sounds right to you? #Seriously
Re: Of What Use Was Noah's Flood If It Couldn't Stop Wickedness? by Pr0ton: 2:05pm On Mar 27, 2015
Misogynist2014:
admonition

Hadn't he been giving admonition? So the best he thought was to eliminate man, innocent and guilty, with a global flood. And yet he failed once again to accomplish his goal. Doesn't make sense for an omniscient God. But works well for myths.

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