trillville:


So the anambran who shares border with an oil producing state has no right to the oil, but you from the niger delta that the shares border with the ocean has right has to oil in the ocean. What is the sense in this?

pazienza:


I am from Anambra, if you must know.

Yes, there is sense in it. Incase of any sea related disaster like sea storms and sea level rise and submerging/ flooding, it's those states close to the sea that will bear the direct impact. It's only fair that they enjoy both the positives and negatives the sea has to offer, don't you think so?

trillville:


Your example is quite funny, what if the resulting flood not only affects the Niger delta but also anambra. So anambra should suffer the flood but get no benefit? How do we decide the impact of this your imaginary flood??

We are talking about ownership here and now who is affected by flooding. Why should the Niger delta claim to own resources in the Atlantic Ocean?

Again, if there is a virus (disease) in the Niger Delta, and this virus spreads to anambra, why should anambrans suffer the effect of the Niger Deltan virus but not benefit from the Niger Deltan oil?

pazienza:


What if Niger delta were to be an independent country of their own, will we be talking about onshore/offshore stuff here?

Why can't the rest of the control be happy they are part of the country, and let them keep their resources while paying taxes to the central government?

meccuno:
parasitic qualities of the "One Nigerian state"

pazienza:


What if Niger delta were to be an independent country of their own, will we be talking about onshore/offshore stuff here?

Why can't the rest of the control be happy they are part of the country, and let them keep their resources while paying taxes to the central government?

pazienza:



Which onshore/offshore again? Why should a person from Anambra partake from the resources from a water body he has no physical contact with, how much more a person from the semi deserts of Kano?


100% resource control will see them provide all they need for themselves, they don't need the FG to provide anything for them.

This is only fair, why are people so blinded by parasitism to see the truth and injustice. If the table is turned, and I am in Niger deltans position. I know I would want 100% resource control and same applies to everyone else.

trillville:


Even if the Niger delta were a country on its own, Nigeria could still claim the resources in the ocean.

For example, the state Alaska is a piece of land only bordered by Canada, yet is part of the United States of America. The Reunion island is off the coast of South East Africa after Madagascar yet it is part of the French Republic.

So what right would the Niger delta have to claim what is in the Atlantic Ocean?

yang:
We have oil in Anambra. All regions should control their resource and end parasites.

pazienza:


You mean, even Niger and Chad can also lay claim to the Atlantic ocean, since they are neighbors to the North, and indirectly Nigeria, right?

Nigeria can only lay claim to the part of the Atlantic ocean that borders Lagos and Ondo states, if Niger delta were to be an independent country of it's own.

edogirl2:


If you are in a family, and you happen to be blessed than others, it seems reasonable and humane to want to extend your blessings to the other members of the family.


My proposal will increase the benefit to the ND whilst ensuring that other members of the 'Nigerian family' also gets something.

kmariko:


The united states we so copy, oil is owned by individuals, corporation and families not by states.

The communities where the oil if found are the rightful owners. The family where the oil is found are the rightful owners.
The scenario you just painted is merely to fly a kite and see where it lands.

Resource control is not about Niger Delta as no such entity exists. Resource control is about fiscal federalism and reducing the overbearing government at the center..

trillville:


I agree with all you've just said in principle. From your understanding, who owns the offshore oil and gas?

trillville:


Yes
The only thing stopping them is the Nigerian army.

kmariko:


Within nigerian territorial waters which ever company discovered it


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trillville:


Even if its a foreign multinational like shell?

Does nigeria deserve to get any compensation based on the fact that the oil is in Nigerians territorial waters?

cocoduck:

please please hahahahaha it is enough oooo this your logic na ogbonga logic
can you imagine? abeg e don do you are too funny my belle wan burst for laughter chai Nigerians ehh na wa ooooh

kmariko:


It is called tax

trillville:

How do you tax something you do not own. How would the Nigerian government tax the corporation?

You said the corporation owns the offshore well yet it is paying tax for something it owns? What's the sense in that?

Vorp:

Akwa Ibom's budget allocation alone is more than the revenue of many African countries and even Ghana yet they didn't really do anything with it except the stadium.

trillville:


Even if the Niger delta were a country on its own, Nigeria could still claim the resources in the ocean.

For example, the state Alaska is a piece of land only bordered by Canada, yet is part of the United States of America. The Reunion island is off the coast of South East Africa after Madagascar yet it is part of the French Republic.

So what right would the Niger delta have to claim what is in the Atlantic Ocean?

asha80:
I wonder why I get the feeling that kogi state is potentially richer than bayelsa state

kmariko:


Yes there is something called corporate tax. The tax that companies like Guiness or Coca cola pays for operating in the country.

Also taxes are merely generic term that encompass a variety of fees that oil companies will pay for operating in the country irrespective of country of origin.

IGBOSON1:


^^^So why is Niger or Chad claiming the resources in our territorial waters!?

You peeps just like to stand reason on its head to justify your continued dependence on the Niger Delta !

Vorp:

Akwa Ibom's budget allocation alone is more than the revenue of many African countries and even Ghana yet they didn't really do anything with it except the stadium.

edogirl2:


If you are in a family, and you happen to be blessed than others, it seems reasonable and humane to want to extend your blessings to the other members of the family.


My proposal will increase the benefit to the ND whilst ensuring that other members of the 'Nigerian family' also gets something.

pazienza:
People giving reasons to sustain their parasitism! If there wasn't crude oil in the Niger delta, won't the rest of the country survive?

I am all for 100% resource control, even though my state has no crude oil wealth at the moment. It will make government less attractive to parasites, only those with innovative ideas will survive.

eCollynzo:
Niger deltans really have no idea what they are missing.
Look at countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Quatar etc, they have some of the most corrupt leaders in the world, but because of their small population, they still have enough resources left to go round and develop their countries, improve the lives of their people.
But the case of the Niger delta is that they have to share a large chunk their resources with 19 unproductive states where people give births indsicrimately and then the little that comes back to them is shared among corrupt leaders.
With the relatively small population of the core Niger delta areas, no amount of corruption will prevent the ordinary man in those areas from living a good life if they are allowed to control their resources.

texazzpete:


Don't mind the greedy people who will come and condemn you. Your proposals are fair enough. Resource control really has no chance of being put in place in Nigeria for the next few decades. The smart play is to negotiate an increase in the derivation payments and build on that.

Vorp:

Akwa Ibom's budget allocation alone is more than the revenue of many African countries and even Ghana yet they didn't really do anything with it except the stadium.