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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by GBTYO: 10:11am On Apr 24, 2015
Vorp:

Akwa Ibom's budget allocation alone is more than the revenue of many African countries and even Ghana yet they didn't really do anything with it except the stadium.
So they should give it to your rascal governor to handover to thiefnibu

You people have no sense at all

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:13am On Apr 24, 2015
Vorp:


I know,but presently they are not doing enough compared to some state and their size.

They doing well. The truth is the wealth from this regions have been carted away for long to service Nigeria as a whole while the regions get ignored. These governors stated building from next to nothing in these state......which is far from a fare thing do do. More more needs to be given to this regions to bring them to speed. The oil regions in Nigeria a suppose to be like the Dubai of Nigeria because that where almost 100% if Nigerian wealth is gotten. I don't blame them when they talk of going there way........because Nigeria has been truly unjust and unfair to the oil producing regions. How can you explain what a refinery in Kaduna is there for? should be close to source of raw material

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Nobody: 10:13am On Apr 24, 2015
GBTYO:

So they should give it to your rascal governor to handover to thiefnibu

You people have no sense at all
wetin you dey yearn?
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Nobody: 10:17am On Apr 24, 2015
Chiaka:


They doing well. The truth is the wealth from this regions have been carted away for long to service Nigeria as a whole while the regions get ignored. These governors stated building from next to nothing in these state......which is far from a fare thing do do. More more needs to be given to this regions to bring them to speed. The oil regions in Nigeria a suppose to be like the Dubai of Nigeria because that where almost 100% if Nigerian wealth is gotten. I don't blame them when they talk of going there way........because Nigeria has been truly unjust and unfair to the oil producing regions. How can you explain what a refinery in Kaduna is there for? should be close to source of raw material
Your right,what the Bleep is Kaduna using refinery for or are they refining abbatior blood.I think refineries should be located only in oil producing regions.

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:17am On Apr 24, 2015
eCollynzo:
That is exactly what is happening.
A place like Eket has more Yorubas than indigenes.

You have more yorubas working in these oil companies than you find even the indigenes themselves

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by GBTYO: 10:18am On Apr 24, 2015
Vorp:

wetin you dey yearn?

For well over 50yrs you parasites drained the resources of the ND neglecting the region and its people and devastating the enviroment.

The ND only marginally began to control some of her wealth from 2006 with the passage of the 13% derrivation which you opposed.

Don't worry when we pull out let me see you complain on how we spend our own money

Parasites

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Nobody: 10:20am On Apr 24, 2015
GBTYO:


For well over 50yrs you parasites drained the resources of the ND neglecting the region and its people and devastating the enviroment.

The ND only marginally began to control some of her wealth from 2006 with the passage of the 13% derrivation which you opposed.

Don't worry when we pull out let me see you complain on how we spend our own money

Parasites
Waste of sp*** you are.
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by GBTYO: 10:22am On Apr 24, 2015
Vorp:

Waste of sp*** you are.

Start planting cocoa you useful bastard spermatoza

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:25am On Apr 24, 2015
trillville:
Pazienza, vorp, ecollynzo
First of all, I support an increase in the amount of money invested in the Niger delta region.

My issues with resource control is based on two facts

1. Should offshore oil and gas be regarded as Niger delta resources?

2. Is increasing the amount of funds state governments receive necessarily going to have an impact on the people?

The first point is a topic that needs to be debated (I.e. Onshore/offshore dichotomy)

As for the second point, I feel an insistence by the Niger Deltans that more refineries, power plants, schools, etc, be built in their region by the federal government will be much more beneficial to the people than simply increasing their derivation.

Most Off shores are within the Niger delta deep waters , both developing and siting refineries and giving their state government more fund to develop the region will do a lot of good, the regions have long been ignored and taken advantage of.......how do you explain lots of Non oil state indigenes, northerners etc owning oil blocs while the indegenes themselves have non.....this cannot happen any where else in Nigeria, even the northerners will not take it.......and when militants act they throw their dirty mouth all over them. We should start doing the right things for the peace of all. Return the oil blocs and let the communities where they are found own them ....that's the only right thing to do nothing more.

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:27am On Apr 24, 2015
trillville:


Your example is quite funny, what if the resulting flood not only affects the Niger delta but also anambra. So anambra should suffer the flood but get no benefit? How do we decide the impact of this your imaginary flood??

We are talking about ownership here and now who is affected by flooding. Why should the Niger delta claim to own resources in the Atlantic Ocean?

Again, if there is a virus (disease) in the Niger Delta, and this virus spreads to anambra, why should anambrans suffer the effect of the Niger Deltan virus but not benefit from the Niger Deltan oil?

Anambra also have oil.
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Nobody: 10:37am On Apr 24, 2015
GBTYO:


Start planting cocoa you useful bastard spermatoza
Deal with it.
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:39am On Apr 24, 2015
trillville:


Even if the Niger delta were a country on its own, Nigeria could still claim the resources in the ocean.

For example, the state Alaska is a piece of land only bordered by Canada, yet is part of the United States of America. The Reunion island is off the coast of South East Africa after Madagascar yet it is part of the French Republic.

So what right would the Niger delta have to claim what is in the Atlantic Ocean?



Nigeria wouldn't have been able to.....because the water ways there are close to Niger delta. That will be infringing into another countries territory

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:40am On Apr 24, 2015
Correct!
pazienza:


You mean, even Niger and Chad can also lay claim to the Atlantic ocean, since they are neighbors to the North, and indirectly Nigeria, right?

Nigeria can only lay claim to the part of the Atlantic ocean that borders Lagos and Ondo states, if Niger delta were to be an independent country of it's own.
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Nobody: 10:40am On Apr 24, 2015
This is sheer ignorance. OP learn to understand the subject (Resource Control) before spewing thrash..
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:43am On Apr 24, 2015
trillville:


Yes
The only thing stopping them is the Nigerian army.

This brings about the question of civil war. While it is morally justifiable for resources on land in the Niger delta to be considered Niger delta resources, will the western world also support the idea of the resources in the ocean belonging to the niger delta? What happens in the case of a civil war. Winner takes all

Those type of wars happens in the yester years! -old testament wars!!! Such wars of taking over peoples places don't happen again. Otherwise a country like US would have taken over the whole of Africa and that would also include your village.

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:46am On Apr 24, 2015
kmariko:


The united states we so copy, oil is owned by individuals, corporation and families not by states.

The communities where the oil if found are the rightful owners. The family where the oil is found are the rightful owners.
The scenario you just painted is merely to fly a kite and see where it lands.

Resource control is not about Niger Delta as no such entity exists. Resource control is about fiscal federalism and reducing the overbearing government at the center..


Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:48am On Apr 24, 2015
The case of Nigeria is just a parasitic thing......others living off others!
kmariko:


The united states we so copy, oil is owned by individuals, corporation and families not by states.

The communities where the oil if found are the rightful owners. The family where the oil is found are the rightful owners.
The scenario you just painted is merely to fly a kite and see where it lands.

Resource control is not about Niger Delta as no such entity exists. Resource control is about fiscal federalism and reducing the overbearing government at the center..


Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:49am On Apr 24, 2015
trillville:


This is one of the major reasons the PIB has not been passed. The issue of ownership of offshore wells.

Off shore wells is owned by the states that owns the waters.

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Nobody: 10:50am On Apr 24, 2015
For me, I have always been an advocate of full resource control (though my home state nor get oyel grin).

Reason being that, with complete resource control many other things will follow, such as:

1. The quick increase in the standard of living of those from whose lands these resources of national sustenance (oil) are tapped - which, to me, is the most important.

2. Spread of development as opposed to Abuja, Lagos and Ph having what I would call pseudo-development.

3. States with no viable resources in the UsA (poor states) have devised and implemented means of sustenance - resource control will help other states do the same rather than lookinh down south to be sustained.

There's more but for me, the overall benefits trounce the opposite.

I really do hope the ND unite in sincerity for the struggle for the control of what belongs to them. Else, places like Kano will keep building longest bridges in W.Africa while they battle environmental degradation with no hopes of solution.

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:52am On Apr 24, 2015
trillville:


See, we are a sovereign nation, what protects our sovereignty is our army

Parasitic Sovereignty!!

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:56am On Apr 24, 2015
GBTYO:
Nigeria is a land of the absurd!
When GMB won the allocation Osun State governor was quick to start advocating for more allocation to his state;
It only leaves me wondering what his state countributes to Federal government purse. Stupid demand!!

http://www.punchng.com/news/buharis-victoryll-boost-allocation-to-osun/



SW governors like Fasole and that rascal Aregbe keep demanding for more revenue from the central govt.

They hinge their claims for more money on the fact that the current sharing formula of 52% to the FG is too large.

Ask the ediots how the FG gets so much revenue which is primarily from the proceeds of Niger Delta oil and they will keep mute.

You want more at the expense of another region.

Full resource control and an exit from this useless nigeria is what we demand

Operation 12 Monkeys

No more free food for baboons
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:57am On Apr 24, 2015
When GMB won the allocation Osun State governor was quick to start advocating for more allocation to his state;
It only leaves me wondering what his state countributes to Federal government purse. Stupid demand!!


GBTYO:
Nigeria is a land of the absurd!

SW governors like Fasole and that rascal Aregbe keep demanding for more revenue from the central govt.

They hinge their claims for more money on the fact that the current sharing formula of 52% to the FG is too large.

Ask the ediots how the FG gets so much revenue which is primarily from the proceeds of Niger Delta oil and they will keep mute.

You want more at the expense of another region.

Full resource control and an exit from this useless nigeria is what we demand

Operation 12 Monkeys

No more free food for baboons
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by texazzpete(m): 11:22am On Apr 24, 2015
Chiaka:


If you are from that region you will not be here saying this Nonsense!!

I'm a Nigerian first and foremost, but also from the Niger Delta. The problems of the Niger delta would not be this bad if they had made better use of the allocations they'd received...

Even a simpleton like you should be able to thing these things through logically, for once.
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 11:27am On Apr 24, 2015
texazzpete:


I'm a Nigerian first and foremost, but also from the Niger Delta. The problems of the Niger delta would not be this bad if they had made better use of the allocations they'd received...

Even a simpleton like you should be able to thing these things through logically, for once.

What has been to Niger delta is nothing compared to what has been taken from it. You are simply not from Niger delta stop faking. Idiot!

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 11:50am On Apr 24, 2015
Chiaka:


Most Off shores are within the Niger delta deep waters , both developing and siting refineries and giving their state government more fund to develop the region will do a lot of good, the regions have long been ignored and taken advantage of.......how do you explain lots of Non oil state indigenes, northerners etc owning oil blocs while the indegenes themselves have non.....this cannot happen any where else in Nigeria, even the northerners will not take it.......and when militants act they throw their dirty mouth all over them. We should start doing the right things for the peace of all. Return the oil blocs and let the communities where they are found own them ....that's the only right thing to do nothing more.

The only thing I have against Jonathan is his failure to seize the oil wells. As for development in the Niger delta, I am in full support of developing the region and making the lives of people there better.

Your comments on countries not fighting over land is a bit funny coz a few months ago, Russia went to war with Ukraine over Crimea.

Well cheers!!! Have a good weekend.

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 11:53am On Apr 24, 2015
Chiaka:


Off shore wells is owned by the states that owns the waters.

Not according to the Nigerian constitution. In fact all resources belong to the federal government under our constitution.
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by edogirl2: 12:11pm On Apr 24, 2015
Chiaka:
When GMB won the allocation Osun State governor was quick to start advocating for more allocation to his state;
It only leaves me wondering what his state countributes to Federal government purse. Stupid demand!!




Please tell us what your state contributed to the Federal purse before it started producing oil.

Let us negotiate a higher derivation, you say no. It must be resource control.


But when asked how you will achieve it, you people fall silent.
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by mikolo80: 12:13pm On Apr 24, 2015
Mogidi:


The other regions just have to look for other sources of income if they hate Boyloaf and the resources from his region.
Chikena!
Simple or boyloaf dem fit go invest go mechanised agric or solid minerals in other regions. Tit for tat
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by mikolo80: 12:15pm On Apr 24, 2015
edogirl2:


I agree, but the only way for ND to have full control will be to extricate itself from Nigeria.


Is there an appetite for war right now? And with the type of leaders in the ND, what's to guarantee a ND country will ever be like Dubai.
more like south Sudan
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by PointB: 12:19pm On Apr 24, 2015
@op,
Whether it's feasible or not to end the parasitism is a matter of time and chance, not a matter of jaundiced opinion of an individual!

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by edogirl2: 12:19pm On Apr 24, 2015
The only way ND will get full control of its resources is by becoming an independent entity.


So, why not just start advocating exit from Nigeria? Your SE brothers appear to be ready. Why not join hands with them to strengthen the voice for independence.

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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by asha80(m): 12:29pm On Apr 24, 2015
edogirl2:



Please tell us what your state contributed to the Federal purse before it started producing oil.

Let us negotiate a higher derivation, you say no. It must be resource control.


But when asked how you will achieve it, you people fall silent.

so practising federalism(not this pseudo federalism we are running now) is not good abi?

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