Rilwayne001:


Wayray omo ibo

You speak like a host

AlfaSeltzer:

You speak like a host

What do you mean

MrPresident:


Sister, we are all going to hell in every other religion. Think about it.

Lol.
Funny but true.

AlfaSeltzer:
Op, you are talking as if Hell is a bad place
The worst thing that can happen to anyone is to be in heaven

Exactly. Depending on your religion, in heaven you either mindlessly sing songs of praise all day, or you mindlessly have sex with virgins.

Where are the football rivalries, the jokes between friends, the exploration of new places, political and religious debates, the challenge of discovering new ways to solve problems, tasting a new and delicious food; in short, anything that makes life interesting?

Heaven, as described, does not interest me. Even the virgins would be boring, since virgins don't know what to do. Also a permanent erec.tion would get annoying after a while. And singing songs of praise all day? Don't get me started.

onetrack:


Exactly. Depending on your religion, in heaven you either mindlessly sing songs of praise all day, or you mindlessly have sex with virgins.

Where are the football rivalries, the jokes between friends, the exploration of new places, political and religious debates, the challenge of discovering new ways to solve problems, tasting a new and delicious food; in short, anything that makes life interesting?

Heaven, as described, does not interest me. Even the virgins would be boring, since virgins don't know what to do. Also a permanent erec.tion would get annoying after a while. And singing songs of praise all day? Don't get me started.

I can't stop laughing
heaven is in fact the worst hell.

To them, not believing is a sin, as if it is by force to believe in a God that makes no sense whatsoever.

plaetton:
It doesn't take much for Christians to issue atheists with one-way tickets to hell. I always wonder whether these Christians are convinced that atheists will go to hell, or simply venting their own frustrations on atheists.

It makes no sense that anyone should be punished for disbelieving in what is clearly an unprovable proposition.
If the belief in god makes any sense at all, then punishing people, or threatening them with eternal punishment for not believing in the existence of god makes absolutely no sense, and renders the entire belief system suspect.

As far as Christian doctrines tell us, sinners are the ones for whom hell is kept hot and ready.
There is absolutely zero correlation between not believing in god and sinning.
Therefore, all sinners, believers and unbelievers, will go to hell after being judged for their worldly sins.

I would love to hear how 'believing' magically saves one from paying for ones sins.

After all, did Jesus not say " surely as a man soweth, so also shall he reapeth ".?

This means that everyone has to be accountable for their sins.
No get-out-of-jail card because you believe so and so myths, lies, and half truths spoonfed to you by your parents and your environment.

You don't believe in God yet you are so concerned if you'd go to hell for doubting His existence .
You don't believe in God yet your profiles say ' most active in the Religion section ...' ... Troubled minds ... Irony at its best
I'm enjoying this though

johnydon22:
[size=20] Heaven or hell? You guys make it seem as if that is an easy choice. seating there in paradise drinking milk and honey knowing fully well that billions are burning and you can do nothing to help.
I can not stay in a place like that cus it will be the same as hell for me. My morality can never allow me seat and watch while others burn, i would be there fighting god and his angels to let me out to at least try and help, i for one cannot bring myself to be happy when others are burning. and anybody or any god who would watch people burn is a barbaric saddist. . . Heaven is for hypocrites [/size]

very very weak attempt ... again

Meanwhile , in Africa (as at 2010) ... (Pic below)

My church helps to control this in their little way through welfare offerings (the less privileged among us are cared for) , what have you done ? Browse on nairaland through out the day talking trash about God I guess
You are a wicked hypocrite

plaetton:
It doesn't take much for Christians to issue atheists with one-way tickets to hell. I always wonder whether these Christians are convinced that atheists will go to hell, or simply venting their own frustrations on atheists.

It makes no sense that anyone should be punished for disbelieving in what is clearly an unprovable proposition.
If the belief in god makes any sense at all, then punishing people, or threatening them with eternal punishment for not believing in the existence of god makes absolutely no sense, and renders the entire belief system suspect.

As far as Christian doctrines tell us, sinners are the ones for whom hell is kept hot and ready.
There is absolutely zero correlation between not believing in god and sinning.
Therefore, all sinners, believers and unbelievers, will go to hell after being judged for their worldly sins.

I would love to hear how 'believing' magically saves one from paying for ones sins.

After all, did Jesus not say " surely as a man soweth, so also shall he reapeth ".?

This means that everyone has to be accountable for their sins.
No get-out-of-jail card because you believe so and so myths, lies, and half truths spoonfed to you by your parents and your environment.

I believe the fear of is troubling you, I will not say much.God the creator of the universe, design the moral law that will benefit mankind hear on earth and the afterlife
Since this universe is temporary, the one human preferred is not here in this life,in this new universe (heaven) sin will not be permitted there, first you must do away with all this sins.

The Bible says that the moral laws are
consistent with the character of God Therefore, the main purpose of the moral laws are to teach us what God
requires for us to enter into His kingdom. The moral laws also allow us to live with each other on earth without hurting each other. In fact, if we all perfectly fulfilled the moral laws of God, we would be in perfect harmony with each other. Our failure to fulfill God's moral laws leads us to seek Him as the source of our salvation.God's creation of free will beings must allow for the possibility of rejecting God completely, so an atheist who reject God do so by there own freewill.and pleatton, there is NO place in the bible God say hell was created for humans, hell was created for demon and those who obey satan command, satan will take them to hell with him the same thing to those who obey God,God will take them to heaven
.

there are missionaries throughout the world proclaiming the good news of Jesus Christ and the salvation that He offers as a free gift. Although the gift is "free," it will cost you your sin, selfishness, and pride. Since none of these character traits are allowed into heaven, those who insist upon holding onto these traits cannot enter into heaven, but must be separated from God in a place called hell. Therefore, those who go to hell do so voluntarily, preferring hell to complete submission to a holy and just God.soo pleatton this thread doesent make sense.

texanomaly:


I totally agree with the above.

do you really understand what Jesus meant When saying this word?

onetrack:


Exactly. Depending on your religion, in heaven you either mindlessly sing songs of praise all day, or you mindlessly have sex with virgins.

Where are the football rivalries, the jokes between friends, the exploration of new places, political and religious debates, the challenge of discovering new ways to solve problems, tasting a new and delicious food; in short, anything that makes life interesting?

Heaven, as described, does not interest me. Even the virgins would be boring, since virgins don't know what to do. Also a permanent erec.tion would get annoying after a while. And singing songs of praise all day? Don't get me started.

Fallacies

God exists ... You not believing in Him does not change anything ...

malvisguy212:
do you really understand what Jesus meant When saying this word?

I'd very much like to hear what you believe Jesus is saying.

◄ John 3:18 ►

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God

ebamma:
If King David who bleeped Uriah's wife and sent him to the battlefield to die could make heaven
That means that hell might be a place for the good guys then
I love the idea of being in hell though
Atleast the will be real guys there not hypocrites

Don't Go To Hell! It is worse than your wildest imagination!

texanomaly:


I'd very much like to hear what you believe Jesus is saying.

The context in which the atheist quote from the bible was NOT talking about sin, he only quote it to support is argument against God. a man sow what he reap,
"Whatsoever good thing each man doeth, this shall he receive again". Thank you.

texanomaly:


I totally agree with the above.

You do? If you believe would you not because you believe do certain things consistent with what you believe and avoid other things that are not? I think believing is enough in itself just for that reason.

That notwithstanding, when someone has paid your debts how are you still accountable for them?

KingEbukasBlog:
God exists ... You not believing in Him does not change anything ...

Yes Don't mind those useless atheists, Am sure God (Osiris) Exist whether they believe it or not

johnydon22:


Yes Don't mins those useless atheists, Am sure God (Osiris) Exist whether they believe it or not

Don't be silly! Anyone with even a few brain cells knows that Odin is real, not Osiris!

dallyemmy:
◄ John 3:18 ►

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God

And whom do you think wrote the Above that you just quoted?
Stone age fishermen or stone age sheep herders?

ihedinobi2:


You do? If you believe would you not because you believe do certain things consistent with what you believe and avoid other things that are not? I think believing is enough in itself just for that reason.

That notwithstanding, when someone has paid your debts how are you still accountable for them?

And your point is....?
That once saved by belief, ones owes no moral and ethical responsibilities ?

onetrack:


Don't be silly! Anyone with even a few brain cells knows that Odin is real, not Osiris!

Are you crazy? Yahweh is the real one not Odin

malvisguy212:
The context in which the atheist quote from the bible was NOT talking about sin, he only quote it to support is argument against God. a man sow what he reap,
"Whatsoever good thing each man doeth, this shall he receive again". Thank you.

Lol. So your saying that when I quote the bible, it means something different from when you quote same?
Jesus said it. Is it less true when an atheist repeats it?
Lol.
If , according to Jesus, everyone shall get their measure of rewards and punishment according to what they sowed in their lives, then belief is secondary and irrelevant. Not so?
Your belief in the trinity, Santa Claus or the almighty FSM will not save anyone from the measured justices of god.
Not so, my friend?

plaetton:

And your point is....?
That once saved by belief, ones owes no moral and ethical responsibilities ?

My point was way too obvious for you to ask again. Regardless....

If you believe what Jesus said, then two things occur: you lose/let go that guilt that has you endlessly trying to be better or frustrated into quitting the effort to be good AND you start to live in agreement with what Jesus said which you now believe.

As it pertains to what you said, you are not accountable for sins that Jesus has paid for. And as I have said twice already and it bears repeating, when you believe in Jesus, you adjust your behavior to suit him.

johnydon22:


Yes Don't mins those useless atheists, Am sure God (Osiris) Exist whether they believe it or not

Am pretty sure a common Nigerian or Facebook user may not Tonto Dikeh's real Facebook page because other facebook pages with the same name have a lot of likes . Some may see the verified page blue tick and still won't believe its Tonto Dikeh's facebook for various reasons or won't know what the 'blue tick' means . Still doesnt change the fact that's Tonto Dikeh's facebook page

Same with atheists , there are gods and there is a God . With His creations , miracles , personal experiences showing clear evidence of His existence , some may choose to ignore these convincing evidences for various reasons. But it doesn't change the fact that there's a God.

It can pain sha but deal with it

KingEbukasBlog:

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Yes God (Osiris) right? He is the real one...

johnydon22:


Are you crazy? Yahweh is the real one not Odin

Doesn't matter. My god can beat up your god, because the book that I wrote says so. I am a profit.

plaetton:

Lol. So your saying that when I quote the bible, it means something different from when you quote same?
Jesus said it. Is it less true when an atheist repeats it?
Lol.
If , according to Jesus, everyone shall get their measure of rewards and punishment according to what they sowed in their lives, then belief is secondary and irrelevant. Not so?
Your belief in the trinity, Santa Claus or the almighty FSM will not save anyone from the measured justices of god.
Not so, my friend?

I was expecting you to quote my first post, do me a favour, quote a verse in the bible were God say he will send people to Hell.there is none, you know why? Because Hell is for demon , and it is the demon that will drag you to hell.

Matthew7:23
And then will I declare to them, ‘I never
knew you; depart from me, you workers
of lawlessness.’

Yes, Jesus say "depart from me".take for example a son who return home late, his dad close the door and would not open to him, that how God will do the sinners, depart from my house, you will be left with satan and demons who will drag you to hell.

onetrack:


Doesn't matter. My god can beat up your god, because the book that I wrote says so. I am a profit.

If my God (thor) catch your God eeehn, the hammer myonir will work well to finish your God... See here, my book says so

johnydon22:


Yes God (Osiris) right? He is the real one...

modified

freecocoa:
To them, not believing is a sin, as if it is by force to believe in a God that makes no sense whatsoever.

You too

KingEbukasBlog:


Am pretty sure a common Nigerian or Facebook user may not Tonto Dikeh's real Facebook page because other facebook pages with the same name have a lot of likes . Some may see the verified page blue tick and still won't believe its Tonto Dikeh's facebook for various reasons or won't know what the 'blue tick' means . Still doesnt change the fact that's Tonto Dikeh's facebook page

Same with atheists , there are gods and there is a God . With His creations , miracles , personal experiences showing clear evidence of His existence , some may choose to ignore these convincing evidences for various reasons. But it doesn't change the fact that there's a God.

It can pain sha but deal with it

lolzzz... always childish tho..

So thats what am saying naaa... Their is God, osiris... So lets not mind those atheist