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WHY Religion Is Clueless by MizJanet(f): 9:31pm On May 26, 2015
Strollin along some of the threads , I saw someone quote this bible verse . Pls lets use our brain here .
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" fear him who can destroy both soul and BODY in hell' matt 10:28 .

The question that arise is : do BODY go to hell ? grin , BODY go to where ? Hell or grave . I thought body is placed in the grave or religion is clueless ?

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by onetrack(m): 10:00pm On May 26, 2015
Pick one of these reasons:

--it's a parable
--you don't have enough religious instruction to understand it
--you need the Holy Spirit to understand it
--the Lord moves in mysterious ways
--'body' doesn't actually mean 'body'
--you need to ask a pa$tor
--how dare you try to read the Bible for yourself
--why are you trying to mock Christianity?
--I'm offended
--this is stupi.d

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by An2elect2(f): 10:03pm On May 26, 2015
This is stupi.d. Any one can just wake up from their frustration to make fun of their God? You don't pick one passage you don't understand to invalidate others.



Once again, this is stupi.d.
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by onetrack(m): 10:05pm On May 26, 2015
An2elect2:
This is stupi.d.

Thanks. I added it to the list above. cool

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by tartar9(m): 10:09pm On May 26, 2015
WHY Religion Except Islam Is Clueless
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by ayoku777(m): 10:12pm On May 26, 2015
MizJanet:
Strollin along some of the threads , I saw someone quote this bible verse . Pls lets use our brain here .
______________

" fear him who can destroy both soul and BODY in hell' matt 10:28 .

The question that arise is : do BODY go to hell ? grin , BODY go to where ? Hell or grave . I thought body is placed in the grave or religion is clueless ?



Learn to study the bible and not just read it.

If you had studied that passage you would have discovered that the greek word translated "hell" there is the word "gehenna" which is the place of final damnation that unbelievers will go to after resurrection. It is different from hades. People enter gehenna with their souls and bodies after resurrection.

Two greek words are translated hell in the new testament: Hades and Gehenna

Hades: The place where the souls of unbelievers go to after they die. Only souls go to hades. The body is buried in the grave (mnemeion) while the soul goes to hell (hades)

Gehenna: This is the place of torment and final destruction; it is also the place called the "Lake of fire". Nobody is in gehenna yet. Sinners will go to gehenna after the final resurrection. And they will enter with their soul and bodies.

Matthew 5v29 -...for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that THY WHOLE BODY should be cast into hell (gehenna).

Matthew 10v28 -...but rather fear Him which is able to destroy BOTH SOUL AND BODY in hell (gehenna).

Both soul and bodies go to gehenna (or lake of fire), but only souls go to hades for now.

Only the soul of Jesus went to hades or sheol (hell) while His body was in mneneion (grave)

Psalms 16v10 - Because thou wilt not leave MY SOUL IN HELL (sheol), neither suffer thine Holy one to see corruption.

Acts 2v27 - Because thou wilt not leave MY SOUL IN HELL (hades), neither suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Also, the rich man in the parable of Jesus was being tormented in hades.

Luke 16v23 - And in hell (hades) he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bossom.

Souls and bodies go to gehenna (the lake of fire) but only souls go to hades. Although both are translated hell in english.

Study the word don't just read it.

God bless.

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by iamodenigbo1(m): 10:12pm On May 26, 2015
tartar9:
WHY Religion Except Islam Is Clueless
isla what?

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by MizJanet(f): 10:15pm On May 26, 2015
onetrack:
Pick one of these reasons:
--it's a parable --you don't have enough religious instruction to understand it --you need the Holy Spirit to understand it --the Lord moves in mysterious ways --'body' doesn't actually mean 'body' --you need to ask a pa$tor --how dare you try to read the Bible for yourself --why are you trying to mock Christianity? --I'm offended --this is stupi.d

Lol , U know hw dey roll

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by Nobody: 10:26pm On May 26, 2015
Religious folks are hopeless honestly. Look at their retarded comments!

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by MizJanet(f): 10:32pm On May 26, 2015
ayoku777:


Learn to study the bible and not just read it.

If you had studied that passage you would have discovered that the greek word translated "hell" there is the word "gehenna"

which is the place of final damnation that unbelievers will go to after resurrection. It is different from hades. People enter gehenna with their souls and bodies after resurrection.


Ressurection? For the dead or for Living ghosts enjoyin in heaven


Two greek words are translated hell in the new testament: Hades and Gehenna

Eeyah, janet don see am o ; see TRANSLATION ERROR at bold ! When ur bible has version in it hw accurate can it be ?





Gehenna: This is the place of torment and final destruction; it is also the place called the "Lake of fire". Nobody is in gehenna yet

Continue confusin urself ... Okay, Nobody is in hell fire yet ?

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by NumberOne2(m): 11:26pm On May 26, 2015
MizJanet:
Strollin along some of the threads , I saw someone quote this bible verse . Pls lets use our brain here .
______________

" fear him who can destroy both soul and BODY in hell' matt 10:28 .

The question that arise is : do BODY go to hell ? grin , BODY go to where ? Hell or grave . I thought body is placed in the grave or religion is clueless ?

Common sense (not so common anyway) dictates that you read the whole chapter to get the CONTEXT of the scripture rather that exposing your ignorance.
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by MizJanet(f): 11:39pm On May 26, 2015
NumberOne2:

Common sense (not so common anyway) dictates that you read the whole chapter to get the CONTEXT of the scripture rather that exposing your ignorance.
U min the edited book , coz ur brother above me confess that they actually mistranslate, the original wording itself is greek not english.

So, Who is ignorant btw me and ur edited version dat says dead BODY is put in hell ? cheesy

Ordinary commonsense should tell u that a dead BODY is put in the grave, isnt it?

Anyway , thanks for commentin , ur comment displays how cluless religiotards can be

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by NumberOne2(m): 11:46pm On May 26, 2015
MizJanet:

U min the edited book , coz ur brother above me confess that they actually mistranslate, the original wording itself is greek not english.

So, Who is ignorant btw me and ur edited version dat says body is put in hell ?

Ordinary commonsense should tell u that a dead BODY is put in the grave, isnt it?

Anyway , thanks for commentin , ur comment displays how cluless religiotards can be

Oh, these religious dropouts who complain about a God they once worshiped fervently. If Christianity didn't work out for you, try Islam or Hindu or better yet Confusion.

Secondly, when it comes to intellect, dont even bother.
My comment was more on English comprehension which is O' Level than Religion but you have decided to put me in the boat of religion (even calling someone there my religious Bro). This shows me how SMART you are. Genius! grin SMH

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by plaetton: 11:52pm On May 26, 2015
NumberOne2:

Common sense (not so common anyway) dictates that you read the whole chapter to get the CONTEXT of the scripture rather that exposing your ignorance.
How many Christians actually read the bible?

This funny.
When it suites them, they say you should study the bible , and not just read it.
Then when it suites them they say you should not study the bible like you study books like Shakespeare. That must invoke holy spiri mumbo wumbo jumbo first, in order to let it guide your understanding.
Bottom line?
The bible is nothing but meaningless mumbo jumbo.
The black man's addiction to this mumbo jumbo is what really portends big trouble for the future.

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by MizJanet(f): 11:54pm On May 26, 2015
NumberOne2:


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Oh, these religious dropouts who complain about a God they once worshiped fervently. If Christianity didn't work out for you, try Islam or Hindu or better yet Confusion.

Secondly, when it comes to intellect, dont even bother.
My comment was more on English comprehension which is O' Level than Religion but you have decided to put me in the boat of religion (even calling someone there my religious Bro). This shows me how SMART you are. Genius! grin SMH [/s]

Eeyah, sorry
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by NumberOne2(m): 12:01am On May 27, 2015
MizJanet:

Eeyah, sorry
Its okay. I forgive ya.

plaetton:

How many Christians actually read the bible?
I dont know but I can say I do for myself.

plaetton:

This funny.
When it suites them, they say you should study the bible , and not just read it.
Then when it suites them they say you should not study the bible like you study books like Shakespeare. That must invoke holy spiri mumbo wumbo jumbo first, in order to let it guide your understanding.
Bottom line?
The bible is nothing but meaningless mumbo jumbo.
The[b] black man's[/b] addiction to this mumbo jumbo is what really portends big trouble for the future.
Ok. Thanks for your personal analysis. Doesnt really change much in the real World now does it?

Finally, the black man has nothing to do with it. The Bible is a global book and is available in many languages. Your PERSONAL point should apply to all races.
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by plaetton: 12:10am On May 27, 2015
NumberOne2:

Its okay. I forgive ya.


I dont know but I can say I do for myself.


Ok. Thanks for your personal analysis. Doesnt really change much in the real World now does it?

Finally, the black man has nothing to do with it. The Bible is a global book and is available in many languages. Your PERSONAL point should apply to all races.
I have never seen Jews, the real witnesses to the events of first century Palestine, argue about whether the bible said this crap or said that crap.
How come?
Are they the dumb ones, or African bible thumpers like you the dumb ones?
If Jews are not into this Jesus bullshyte, then why are you? Do you know something that they don't know?
Think about it.

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by NumberOne2(m): 12:28am On May 27, 2015
plaetton:

I have never seen Jews, the real witnesses to the events of first century Palestine, argue about whether the bible said this crap or said that crap.
How come?
Are they the dumb ones, or African bible thumpers like you the dumb ones?
If Jews are not into this Jesus bullshyte, then why are you? Do you know something that they don't know?
Think about it.

First off:
Refering to the bolded: Don't call me dumb cos you surely aren't smarter than I am. I never insulted you. I relate with mature minds (unfortunately I was wrong). There is something called Decorum.

Secondly:
There are Christian Jews... so yes, some Jews do believe in Jesus.

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by plaetton: 1:10am On May 27, 2015
NumberOne2:


First off:
Refering to the bolded: Don't call me dumb cos you surely aren't smarter than I am. I never insulted you. I relate with mature minds (unfortunately I was wrong). There is something called Decorum.

Secondly:
There are Christian Jews... so yes, some Jews do believe in Jesus.

Sorry dude, I didn't really mean to call you personally dumb. I was referring to the very dumb prelediction of Africans, late comers, late victims of religious social engineering, to wax eloquent about myths that had been sold to them as part of a social engineering scheme that ensured their slavery and mental subjugation .
I am also referring to how dumb it is to latch onto myths for which the witnesses and originators have since relegated to the realms of myths.

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by NumberOne2(m): 2:07am On May 27, 2015
plaetton:


Sorry dude, I didn't really mean to call you personally dumb. I was referring to the very dumb prelediction of Africans, late comers, late victims of religious social engineering, to wax eloquent about myths that had been sold to them as part of a social engineering scheme that ensured their slavery and mental subjugation .
I am also referring to how dumb it is to latch onto myths for which the witnesses and originators have since relegated to the realms of myths.

Apology accepted.

Religion, Corporate policy, National Constitution, Law and Order does have a way of putting citizens or followers under control.
For instance, a lot of folks take a lot of ill treatment on their job because of fear of loss. or Just like an woman suffering abuse from a man in the name of love.
My point: There are other stuff (as mentioned above) that can be use to put a man under mental slavery. Does this make them obsolete or clueless?

As for Christians, it is this mental slavery that some Pastors today ride on to deceive followers. If Christians would read their bible! There are a lot of widely held Christian beliefs or doctrines I (personally) do not adhere to. Why? Cos they are not biblical.
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" - Hosea 4:6 or My people are ruined because they are ignorant.

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by johnydon22(m): 10:28am On May 27, 2015
tartar9:
WHY Religion Except Islam Is Clueless

Thats what every other religions say. .

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by plaetton: 3:32pm On May 27, 2015
NumberOne2:


Oh, these religious dropouts who complain about a God they once worshiped fervently. If Christianity didn't work out for you, try Islam or Hindu or better yet Confusion.

Secondly, when it comes to intellect, dont even bother.
My comment was more on English comprehension which is O' Level than Religion but you have decided to put me in the boat of religion (even calling someone there my religious Bro). This shows me how SMART you are. Genius! grin SMH
Lol @religious dropouts.
Drops out of the bondage of religious indoctrination can be the best thing to happen to an individual human being.

Most christians and people of faith were forcefed with religious Bullshyte long before they could articulate thoughts of their own.

At what time in your infancy did you decide that god existed, and that you wanted to worship him fervently?

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by NumberOne2(m): 12:25am On May 28, 2015
plaetton:

Lol @religious dropouts.
Drops out of the bondage of religious indoctrination can be the best thing to happen to an individual human being.

Most christians and people of faith were forcefed with religious Bullshyte long before they could articulate thoughts of their own.

At what time in your infancy did you decide that god existed, and that you wanted to worship him fervently?

Well, I think it was probably about the same time you decided that God didn't exist. Right?
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by MizJanet(f): 8:06pm On May 28, 2015
Infact , the part that indicate the cluelessness of religion was dat ayoku777 or whats his name dat said ' when people die , they go to first hell AND after a while , those burning in first hell will be resurected with a new body ; lols and after workin so much to give them a new body , they ar then transferred to another hell.

How will a lovin God create 2 hells ? shocked shocked

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by johnydon22(m): 8:23pm On May 28, 2015
MizJanet:
Infact , the part that indicate the cluelessness of religion was dat guy dat said , when people die , they go to first hell AND after a while , those burning in first hell will be resurected with a new body , lols and after workin so much to give them a new body , they ar then transferred to another hell.

How will a lovin God create 2 hells ? shocked shocked

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Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by Crispels(m): 6:26am On May 29, 2015
MizJanet:
Infact , the part that indicate the cluelessness of religion was dat ayoku777 or whats his name dat said ' when people die , they go to first hell AND after a while , those burning in first hell will be resurected with a new body ; lols and after workin so much to give them a new body , they ar then transferred to another hell.

How will a lovin God create 2 hells ? shocked shocked



I actually do think a supreme being(God) may exist. I however don't believe in religion, esp. Christianity and Islam. Its scam
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by Crispels(m): 6:28am On May 29, 2015
plaetton:

Lol @religious dropouts.
Drops out of the bondage of religious indoctrination can be the best thing to happen to an individual human being.

Most christians and people of faith were forcefed with religious Bullshyte long before they could articulate thoughts of their own.

At what time in your infancy did you decide that god existed, and that you wanted to worship him fervently?





I actually do think a supreme being(God) may exist. I however don't believe in religion, esp. Christianity and Islam. Its scam
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by johnydon22(m): 7:51am On May 29, 2015
Crispels:






I actually do think a supreme being(God) may exist. I however don't believe in religion, esp. Christianity and Islam. Its scam

why exactly are you spamming every thread here with this?. . . Don't have any other meaningful posts to contribute or just paste this in every thread you see
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by Crispels(m): 8:35am On May 29, 2015
johnydon22:


why exactly are you spamming every thread here with this?. . . Don't have any other meaningful posts to contribute or just paste this in every thread you see
....



just airing my view, any crime??
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by johnydon22(m): 8:37am On May 29, 2015
Crispels:
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just airing my view, any crime??

No but when you start posting it on every thread it becomes spam. . .There are other ways to air your views by joining in discussions and giving reasons for your stance. . . not post one thing in every thread you come across.
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by Crispels(m): 9:46am On May 29, 2015
johnydon22:


No but when you start posting it on every thread it becomes spam. . .There are other ways to air your views by joining in discussions and giving reasons for your stance. . . not post one thing in every thread you come across.



loool... I discovered,recently, the scam in Religions after studying their history, but I still think a supreme being(perhaps God exists).


what term do you use for a personality like myself, believes in the existence of a supreme being,but rejects religion??
Re: WHY Religion Is Clueless by johnydon22(m): 9:48am On May 29, 2015
Crispels:




loool... I discovered,recently, the scam in Religions after studying their history, but I still think a supreme being(perhaps God exists).


what term do you use for a personality like myself, believes in the existence of a supreme being,but rejects religion??
Why is it you dont think Gods exists. . . they may be a whole civilization of them you knowwink

why think only one just sat like that. . . and who created that one?

You may be termed agnostic or deist. . . depends on how exactly your belief runs.

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