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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by 989900: 6:12pm On May 27, 2015
At 90%+ functionality, our refineries should be churning out between 22-33 million litres of PMS/day; which should be enough . . . depending on who you believe.

P.S. Well according to them (ministry of petroleum), the TAM has started since last October.
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Mynd44: 6:12pm On May 27, 2015
usbcable:


Any link one can reference as to building of both refineries?
It will be a nice idea to become an exporter of refined products.

This present situation of a farmer staving while having crops on his farmland is illogical

http://www.bdlive.co.za/articles/2009/04/29/oando-refinery-set-to-bridge-the-supply-gap

http://www.punchng.com/business/business-economy/dangotes-oil-refinery-to-process-650000bpd/

While Dangote's refinery is not much of a secret and it is being built in the Lekki free trade zone, Wale Tinubu is playing the greenfield refinery close to the chest.

Hopefully we will also be able to turn around the refineries we already have and make them function

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Wildrage: 6:14pm On May 27, 2015
kennygee:
I'm wondering how he will remove subsidy and reduce pump price.

He is a magician, in 2days time we'd all be spectators in his circus show
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Nobody: 6:14pm On May 27, 2015
MKO4ever:


Simple!!!
Make the refineries work

In abracadabra format.

Abi?

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by jamesbridget13(f): 6:14pm On May 27, 2015
nigeria ll overcome
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Nobody: 6:15pm On May 27, 2015
Wildrage:


He is a magician, in 2days time we'd all be spectators in his circus show

Yes o.

I'm also wondering how he wants to pay the 5k per month that he promised unemployed youth.
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by tonychristopher: 6:16pm On May 27, 2015
IF BUHARI CAN STOP IT THEN HE IS A WEAKLING..SIMPLE AND SHORT AND A DISGRACE TO GENERALS WORLDWIDE..SO HE BETTER DO THE NEEDFUL

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Mynd44: 6:16pm On May 27, 2015
Martins301:


Bro am not getting your gist yet. I will appreciate if you can provide credible links to support your postulation. Nigeria's four refineries combined and in different states, have a total installed capacity of about 450,000 bpd. Now you are saying that only two that are yet to be built have a combined capacity of 1 million bpd!
https://www.nairaland.com/2340644/fuel-crisis-5-reasons-why/1#34150375
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Nobody: 6:17pm On May 27, 2015
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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by lawyer(m): 6:19pm On May 27, 2015
People confuse buying fuel for N150 per liter during a 3 week fuel strike or crisis because the product is scarce and paying for fuel at N150 every day per liter for years. Can you afford it? How much is your salary or income? How many low and middle income people can pay N1500 per day for 10 liters for their cars and another 10 liters for their generators. Can you times that in 7 days and an additional 30 days and you don't want Nigerians to be corrupt or do illegal things to sustain their lives. A country that produces fuel should at least benefit some thing no matter how small from this God given gift. The government should not punish citizens for its inefficiencies and any plan to withdraw subsidy would be met with stiff opposition from the masses and Buhari should not even try it. No amount of propaganda or arm twisting would make us cow to the government to punish us. Have you thought of the pepper seller or meat seller or shoemaker struggling to buy fuel now and with the withdrawal of the subsidy how would he be able to pay N150 per litre daily. Is Buhari going to subsidy the corn seller too?

Do you know how this fuel scarcity with fuel selling above N150 has affected other sectors of the society? Do you know how people are struggling to make ends meet or sleeping in perennial darkness because because they can't afford to pay for this N150 per liter? Have you thought of the thousands of people in Osun who cannot make ends meet because they haven't been paid for over 5 months to now still pay for N150 per liter tomorrow. Does the government want to wipe out the low class completely and incapacitate the middle class?

I don't buy this idea of wiping out the subsidy because it's making a few people overnight billionaires. How can you compare the joy of a few thousands to the sufferings of over 160million people? When there is fuel and it's sold at a reasonable price that is affordable do you think the masses care who is making a killing financially or not? With the affordable price, people can go about their business happily and make the small profit they are comfortable with to feed and support their families. If the government is against it or looking for money to subsidize fuel, they should look inwards and cut down on their foreign trips, estacodes, dollar allowances, numbers of P.As or government agencies / ghost workers that are stifling our economy everyday with no end result. Bottom line Buhari shouldn't try it because Occupy Nigeria part 2 would be more intense and electrifying.

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Pamcrest(f): 6:19pm On May 27, 2015
Op, never say never. Fuel importation must and will stop.....it's just a matter of time n willpower. We can't continue subsidizing d greedy wicked souls benefitting from it.
My humble submission

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by muh4lyf(m): 6:21pm On May 27, 2015
So is the writer now insinuating that we shouldn't stop importation,leave our refineries to rotten... Point of correction,getting the refinery to work can not be immediate, it's a process. Why do we Nigerians always look at the negative side without the positive side.. Pessimism I guess... Please try and be positive, talk about how repairing our refineries would generate employment and not how people would lose their jobs...

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Nobody: 6:21pm On May 27, 2015
The reasons is not enough ,he can stop it if he want
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by muh4lyf(m): 6:21pm On May 27, 2015
So is the writer now insinuating that we shouldn't stop importation,leave our refineries to rotten... Point of correction,getting the refinery to work can not be immediate, it's a process. Why do we Nigerians always look at the negative side without the positive side.. Pessimism I guess... Please try and be positive, talk about how repairing our refineries would generate employment and not how people would lose their jobs ...
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Nobody: 6:23pm On May 27, 2015
I think the OP is trying to saying it won't happen overnight. Not that it will never happen. I see no reason to attack him.
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Nobody: 6:25pm On May 27, 2015
intergral:
Bloody rubbish.......
OP you be enemy of Nigeria...
You did not vote for him now you're try to criticise him even before he gets into office...
Bloody hatter!!...

Do u even have common sense? Please reread the post and go through my other posts before making any foolish statement.
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by vantage7: 6:26pm On May 27, 2015
Martins301:
The easiest way out of these seasonal fuel crises that we face would have been if we were refining our own fuel locally. Instead, we depend largely on fuel refined and imported from overseas. Our new President, Gen. Buhari will certainly face a difficult task in this area if he assumes office. Here are five obstacles that will hinder him in the attempt to stop fuel importation. If the government can sumount them then fine. At least we will make a headway. Here we go:

1. Our refineries are not yet ready. With a refining capacity of over 450,000bpd that cannot even meet our domestic needs and operating at less than 30% mostly due to machine failure, our refineries are just not ready for the task ahead.

2. Government generates revenue from the process. Am talking about the VAT and other charges levied on imported petroleum products. If we stop importing fuel today, there will be a significant drop in government revenue, and if other sources of government revenue remains constant, our budget deficit will rise, debt profile will rise and the future sufferings of Nigerians will rise. Can you accept that?

3. Significant investments have been made into providing facilities for fuel importation. Am talking about the facilities for transporting fuel to Nigeria, those for moving the products from the vessels into storage facilities, those for administration, etc. People invested money into them. Do you think they will be smiling when an attempt is make to cut off their source of income?

4. Fraudulent oil marketers are benefiting from the process. Those who falsify/doctor their documents just to overcharge the government for subsidy, those who cause unnecessary delays in offloading petroleum products just so it can incure demurage, etc. All of them will come together to frustrate any attempt to stop fuel importation just as generator sellers are doing to our electricity generation companies. If you still don't understand, go and read the PwC report.

5. Risk of unemployment. All those people directly or indirectly employed as a result of the fuel importation business will face the risk of losing their jobs. They are among those praying that we should continue to import fuel.

Additions, subtractions and meaningful observations are welcome.


Source: Martin301

I take points 1 and 3. Point 1 (Our refineries are not yet ready - so also the depots, pipelines and pumping stations) is the main reason for now and point 3 is a sacrifice we are going to have to make.

As for point 2 (Government generates revenue from the process), I say: Is it not the same revenue (and more) that the government is giving back to the importers in the name of subsidy?

Point 4 (Fraudulent oil marketers are benefiting from the process) You mean they will try and sabotage the process. Alright, they should go ahead. They should however be ready to face the full force of our collective will as a nation. It is time to start putting criminals where they belong.

Point 5 (Risk of unemployment) Those jobs will be more than compensated for by the jobs that will be created when we build our own refineries, depots, pipelines and pumping stations. Just imagine for instance the number of NSCDC personnel that will be employed to protect over 10,000 kilometres of pipelines and a couple hundred pumping stations, more so since saboteurs will be lurking around because they are benefiting from importation.

Good points though.

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by jorlons(m): 6:27pm On May 27, 2015
Mynd44:
Dangote is building a refinery in Lagos which had a capacity of 400,000 and I hear it is being expanded to 600,000

Oando is building one in Lagos too with a capacity of 400,000. These two when finished will make Nigeria an exporter of refined products whether or not our refineries work but they won't be ready until mid and late 2016 so according to Buhari this is what Nigeria intends to do.

Nigeria will give the amount of crude we need to a country that refines and we get that worth back in refined products and we pay for your refining services and we bring it back to Nigeria to sell.

As for those who built facilities bla bla bla, they knew this day will come. They should deal with it
Exactly what I was going to say. Dangote's should come on stream by 2017.
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by caprini1: 6:27pm On May 27, 2015
Johnnoo:
@Op; Your cra.ppy reasons are no issues to incoming government. New refineries will emerge, fraudulent oil marketers will learn their lessons as time goes not (no need mentioning the inevitable wink), youths will be gainfully employed. So much so, there are better ways govt can make money other than exploiting her citizenry cool
Painfully true,every government exploits her citizens one way or the other.

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Nobody: 6:28pm On May 27, 2015
Nairalandar:
In two days time, there will be an end to the problems of Nigeria. Corruption will be killed. PHCN will be reborn. Youth unemployment will be a thing of the past. The international oil market will stabilise. The naira will find its level. Petrol will sell for 40 naira per litre.
Halleluyah.
*Can't wait ooo*
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by jossyj: 6:29pm On May 27, 2015
pharmadoctor:
BUT AT THE END OF HIS FIRST TERM, WE WILL LOOK BACK AND SAY...'BABA CARRY GO ONCE MORE'

wait let him get there first.
Lets see.
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Wildrage: 6:32pm On May 27, 2015
r33d:
Only an irresponsible government will not see a need to stop the importation of refined petroleum products in Nigeria. It is enough problem not to have drinkable water as at when due and to grapple in the dark due to erratic electricity.
The major factor militating against local refining is the subsidy regime. If we had done the needful a long time ago instead of adamantly refusing to yield to better reasons , by now a lot of private investors would have taken the risk of investing in the sector. For so long as we refuse to accept the reality, so long will our refineries remain moribund. We need to sell off the existing refineries as scrap, putting more money into fixing them would continue to be a wasteful exercise with no appreciable economic benefit. Right now, we spend hundreds of millions of dollars every year on turnaround maintenance with no commensurate benefit. Kaduna refinery has never fully worked for one whole month after every maintenance. Those Alhajis intent on making money from bridging always find a way of blowing up the refurbished engines, the nefarious activities of pipeline vandals is another major challenge. Govt should hand off refinery, remove subsidy, encourage private investors with good incentives and with time we'd all begin to enjoy the benefits

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Shaw007(m): 6:32pm On May 27, 2015
Why don't you stop thinking about how it will not work, and focus on how to overcome this obstacles and make it work

For a system, a failed one at that, to change, there has to be sacrifices made, for the greater good, if we don't stop importing fuel now, there won't even be jobs to lose in the future

90% of Nigeria's problems are interrelated, and oil is an integral part of that relations, if you think you want to effect change without tackling this problem, you are simply deceiving yourself!!


Do you want to suffer a little now and secure The future,
OR, be complacent, compromise, keep managing the situation and inturn jeopardise the future
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Brownhypo: 6:33pm On May 27, 2015
.....What is the solution now?
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by liveexoticfish: 6:33pm On May 27, 2015
Are u tellingg me that over 1m people is working as adm with our all this petrol impotrer ? If yes out of 170m population make ur mathmatics well Did u know the meaning of oil subsidy ? How many benefit in our black crued oil which we get only 3 items back ? Pls I think u are campaing for all this oil importer subsidy must stop ask Pa TAm David west the meaning of oil subsidy its scam to our economy
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by sholey4love: 6:33pm On May 27, 2015
This is part of the reasons why PDP has never been able to progress because of fear of the unseen and corruption.
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by Nobody: 6:34pm On May 27, 2015
In 2 days
time unemployment will end
1N = 1$
All road fixed
24 hours light
Fuel. N40 per liter
Corruption will end forever
Nigeria will have sercurity
The economy will come back to life
Allah blessings and peace be upon President Buhari. Amin allah
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by idu1(m): 6:34pm On May 27, 2015
freshness2020:
#babaOneChance..
U are your family are in the one chance bus too....
Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by r33d(m): 6:36pm On May 27, 2015
Wildrage:

The major factor militating against local refining is the subsidy regime. If we had done the needful a long time ago instead of adamantly refusing to yield to better reasons , by now a lot of private investors would have taken the risk of investing in the sector. For so long as we refuse to accept the reality, so long will our refineries would remain moribund. We need to sell off the existing refineries as scrap, putting more money into fixing them would continue to be a wasteful exercise with no appreciable economic benefit. Right now, we spend hundreds of millions of dollars every year on turnaround maintenance with no commensurate benefit. Kaduna refinery has never fully worked for one whole month after every maintenance. Those Alhajis intent on making money from bridging always find a way of blowing up the refurbished engines, the nefarious activities of pipeline vandals is another major challenge. Govt should hand off refinery, remove subsidy, encourage private investors with good incentives and with time we'd all begin to enjoy the benefits

Your explanation is a treasure.

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Re: Fuel Crisis: 5 Reasons Why Buhari Cannot Stop Fuel Importation by seundy(m): 6:37pm On May 27, 2015
I wonder why all this people keep saying negative things abt the incoming gvt. They never see two reasons why he can stop the importation, rather they keep seeing why it wl not be.... 'Enemies of pro*ress'

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