safarigirl:
that's not an explanation on how he won it. What was the criteria used to ajudge him MVP?

safarigirl:
that's not an explanation on how he won it. What was the criteria used to ajudge him MVP?

robosky02:



that ws really a compensation not his skill

TheGoodJoe:


The flying Eagles were almost flawless in the competition especially with players like Awoniyi, Musa, Nwobodo putting impressive displays. For a player like Yeboah receiving the best player ahead of these special flying eagles shows he is fantastic.

It is just a testament of the Youth Structure of Man City.

robosky02:



that ws really a compensation not his skill

TheSuperNerd:



Sir Leon... I get ur points. But let's stop the Nacho/Success comparisons ok. Safari girl's points are well noted also... I get d angle she's coming from as well as urs. Putting both ur points 2geda I'll simply say this...
Success has the 'big games' experience coz he's faced top players in la liga but Nacho is by far the most technically gifted super talent in the Super Flying Eagles. Next to Nacho, in terms of Technical balance and giftedness is Musa Yahaya. Even AWO isn't far off technically. He's up there with the best alongside Success, Matthew, Bulbwa, Simon Moses, Sokari, Nwakali and Ezeh. Every other player follows suit...
Like I've always said, Nacho stands in a super class of his own. And so does Success...

kannymoore:


Iheanacho is not the most gifted baller in that squad... Moses Simon is!

Again..i repeat... Moses Simon is the Best and most technically astute baller in that team!

Go through his season stats and highlights on youtube if you still nurse doubts!

TheGoodJoe:


I disagree with you. A player like Dennis Suarez is a bigger star than Isaac Success in the La Liga. Last season, he was with the Man City EDS.

If Success was at Man City, he would play with the EDS not the main team.

TheSuperNerd:



Hey uhm... Yeboah is a great lad aiit... But truth be told... AWO WAS ROBBED OF THE AYC MVP. I guess Caf didnt want Nigeria carting home all the awards...

tbaba1234:


Right now, Success is playing a higher level of competition than the EDS... Not every EDS kid will play top flight. Success already is. When safarigirl talks about his lack of goals in La liga, we have to remember, this is his first season in the top flight. Even established stars struggle in their first season at a new club.

Iheanacho is a spectacular player but he is still playing at a lower level. Playing against top class experienced defenders is not easy.

tbaba1234:


Right now, Success is playing a higher level of competition than the EDS... Not every EDS kid will play top flight. Success already is. When safarigirl talks about his lack of goals in La liga, we have to remember, this is his first season in the top flight. Even established stars struggle in their first season at a new club.

Iheanacho is a spectacular player but he is still playing at a lower level. Playing against top class experienced defenders is not easy.

TheGoodJoe:


When Messi was in the academy of Barcelona, many knew he was outstanding, even better than many in the main squad of Barcelona. Does it mean because Messi was in team B of Barca, a crap player in a club like Valladolid was better than Messi then?

TheGoodJoe:
Top Flight, Top Flight. Bring Success to Man City and let us see him play top flight. Nacho is battling World Class Super stars like Aguero, Dzeko, Bony, Jovetic, Silva and Nasri for shirt. Let Success come and let us see top flight. Put Nacho in Granada and he will be their star player.

TheGoodJoe:


[b]Why was he robbed? Because Awoniyi got two man of the match awards?

It does not work like that.

Look at today's match, Bacca will get the praise for all the goals he scored. But, was he the most valueable player? Take out Banega and watch that team crumble. If you get the stats and see Banega's pass completion, you will see no other player did that like him. When you go to completed dribbles, it was Konoplianka.

Awoniyi scored goals but his overall performance was not above players like Nwobodo.

Look at Mikel at 2005 WYC. He was by far the best player of the tournament but he did not score a goal. That is why Messi took it. It takes more than just goals.

Look at Messi and Spain with Xavi in form. They were untouchable as soon as Xavi lost form, Messi and Spain detoriated.

Today Messi gets the praise but the true hero for Barca in the Champions league is Rakitic. It is nit a coincidence he was part of the Sevilla Europa league winning team and is in thr Champions league finals.

Players like Pirlo gets overlooked because of lack of goals. If they score, they get the award.

I think that is what happened with Yeboah but we need stats before writing him off. The WYC will show more.

Man City did not bring him to the campus by chance. That was done before the AYC.[/b]

TheSuperNerd:

Taiwo Awoniyi:
Two man of the match awards... 3gls... 2assists... Contributed to team play with his fine workrate and a nice focal point in attack...

Yaw Yeboah: 2gls... One man of the match award... Contributed to team play

What else? Passing accuracy... U forget dat Matthew(2gls and 2 or 3assists) excelled here. Same with Idowu.

Also, Mikel did score a goal at holland 2005. A penalty goal in our 3-0 win our d swiss in our last grp game

tbaba1234:


You are making projections, there is no doubt about Iheanacho's potential but that is all it is for now, potential... The experience of one season is invaluable.

tbaba1234:


I remind you of a kid, Auturo Lupoli, Lupoli was scoring for fun at the academy level, could not replicate that at senior level. Even Carlos Vela.... Look at their potential as kids and the eventual level they played at... They were supposed to be considered top stars...

Shining for an academy is completely different from when you meet the senior men...

For now, Success is playing at a far higher level than Iheanacho.

TheGoodJoe:


Are you saying every top attacker playing in top flight is better than Nacho? I pointed Dennis Suarez. He was EDS last season. This season an important player for Sevilla.

TheGoodJoe:


How did Vela come into your list. He is a star of the La Liga, the best player of Real Sociedad.

Success is facing an easier challenge.

Success is coming to camp. Let me see him excite the camp as Nacho did in New Zealand.

tbaba1234:


Check out Vela's clips as a kid and you would have concluded that he should have ended at the very top.. Madrid, Barca, Bayern etc. Success is a new kid from Africa in his first season abroad in the top flight. It is far from easy.

Give him a couple of seasons,

tbaba1234:


No, I am saying they are playing at a much higher level than Nacho so they can not be compared.. If success was playing with his mates, He will probably be scoring a lot more goals. We saw his record at under 17..

Playing with John Terry or koscielny is completely different from playing academy level CB. At this point, Success is already in that state of his development.

TheGoodJoe:


Being opportuned to play at a higher level because of less competition does not make you better. Remember Sturridge at Chelsea. He went to Bolton and walked into their first team. Were the other players at Bolton better because they were in top flight and Sturridge in Chelsea reserves?

tbaba1234:


Playing constantly at that level made sturridge. He would not reach the level, he is now, playing academy football.

Again, I never said better but that there is no basis for comparison. Sturridge development is from playin at the top level. Right now, Success is on the first ladder. Iheanacho is yet to begin.

TheGoodJoe:

I am not saying Success does not have World Class ability but as a striker, I do not see him outclassing Nacho.[/b][/color]

TheGoodJoe:


I disagree with you. A player like Dennis Suarez is a bigger star than Isaac Success in the La Liga. Last season, he was with the Man City EDS.

If Success was at Man City, he would play with the EDS not the main team.

tbaba1234:


Right now, Success is playing a higher level of competition than the EDS... Not every EDS kid will play top flight. Success already is. When safarigirl talks about his lack of goals in La liga, we have to remember, this is his first season in the top flight. Even established stars struggle in their first season at a new club.

Iheanacho is a spectacular player but he is still playing at a lower level. Playing against top class experienced defenders is not easy.

TheGoodJoe:


Sturridge was in Chelsea reserves. Bolton had strikers playing at the top level. Owen Coyle signed Sturridge on loan and he immediately became the star player of Bolton.

Sturridge's development before Bolton was in the Reserves of Chelsea and Man City but he was better than players playing top flight football at Bolton in the English Premier League.

TheGoodJoe:


How did Vela come into your list. He is a star of the La Liga, the best player of Real Sociedad.

Success is facing an easier challenge.

Success is coming to camp. Let me see him excite the camp as Nacho did in New Zealand.

safarigirl:
oya you that has taken the time, tell me how many goals he has scored.

You keep repeating 'academy'....Mind you, Kelechi has also impressed in pre-Season against the likes of Kansas City, Atletico and Liverpool. He was easily City's stand out player during pre-season.

The fact that he hasn't been loaned out and instead is the top prospect for first team next season, a first team Paul Pogba is still looking to break into, should make any sane coach rate him higher than Success. Hell, if you asked 10 top coaches right now to choose, at least 6 would take Iheanacho over Success. That boy is in a class of his own

Don't just tell me Success has scored goals. Give me videos. Let's compare them to those of Iheanacho side-by-side. Attacking midfielder vs Forward.

Y'all keep shouting Success up and down yet nobody has a clip of his games. Not a compilation mind you, just one game highlights. I mean one of recent. Show me a reason to rate him cuz all these ones na mouth

TheSuperNerd:



Sir Leon... I get ur points. But let's stop the Nacho/Success comparisons ok. Safari girl's points are well noted also... I get d angle she's coming from as well as urs. Putting both ur points 2geda I'll simply say this...
Success has the 'big games' experience coz he's faced top players in la liga but Nacho is by far the most technically gifted super talent in the Super Flying Eagles. Next to Nacho, in terms of Technical balance and giftedness is Musa Yahaya. Even AWO isn't far off technically. He's up there with the best alongside Success, Matthew, Bulbwa, Simon Moses, Sokari, Nwakali and Ezeh. Every other player follows suit...
Like I've always said, Nacho stands in a super class of his own. And so does Success...

tbaba1234:


I remind you of a kid, Auturo Lupoli, Lupoli was scoring for fun at the academy level, could not replicate that at senior level. Even Carlos Vela.... Look at their potential as kids and the eventual level they played at... They were supposed to be considered top stars...

Shining for an academy is completely different from when you meet the senior men...

For now, Success is playing at a far higher level than Iheanacho.

tbaba1234:


And he took the next step in Bolton... You can't reach the next level without top flight football... Remember what Arsenal did with wilshere, after his loan spell at Bolton he improved tremendously.

The top flight football is vital for improvement