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Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Syncan(m): 11:01am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Barnabaseloka: Chai...So Jesus could still be addressed as "Son of David" even generations after David was gone, but Mary's motherhood over Jesus expires, Ok. If you get biblical reference, abeg support am, i don de tire. 1 Like |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Barnabaseloka(m): 11:12am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Syncan:Luke 11:27-28 27. And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You. 28. But He said, MORE THAN THAT,blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it. (KJV) 28. But Jesus answered, RATHER, how happy are those who hear the word of God and obey it. (GB) know that it was Mary that said that all the nations shall call her blessed, not the angel (Luke 1:48). People will call her blessed b/c Luke 1:49-55. To call sb 'blessed' does not mean you have to attach it as a title to the name of the person whenever you want to call such name. Yes I call her 'blessed' whenever I want to speak about the birth of Jesus, but not just as a title I attach to the name. |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by dolphinheart(m): 11:15am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Barnabaseloka: I dnt believe the "Mary, mother of God " doctrine/belief/teachings . I found it contrary to what the bible teaches and an afterthought in the protection of the false doctrine of trinity. Mary was told who she was going to give birth to in plain, simple, easy to understand, non mysterious terms and she was not told she will give birth to God. Someone referred to "the woman " in Gen 3:15 as Mary . I asked who " the woman" in the immediate next verse is . Still no answer 1 Like |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Barnabaseloka(m): 11:25am On Jun 09, 2015 |
italo:Never will the devil worshippers compile the bible and go ahead to tell us to live godly lives and make heaven. A nation that is divided will fall. That I said I have not done research on this does not mean that the Holy Spirit does not bear witness that what are compiled are what we should hold onto. When we go astray, the Holy Spirit makes it clear to us through the same compiled scriptures that we have erred. As long as the words I have in the bible I hold gives the same understanding / meaning / interpretation to the one you hold, that is the final stop. |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by HopeAlive14(m): 11:34am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Syncan: I am glad you know that Jesus cannot contradict the Holy Spirit. |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Barnabaseloka(m): 11:38am On Jun 09, 2015 |
italo:Never will the devil's worshippers compile the bible and go ahead to tell us how to obey God, live godly lives and make heaven at last. A nation divided cannot stand. That I said I have not done research on how the bible was compiled does not mean that the Holy Spirit bears no witness to us that the ones compiled are true. When we go astray, the Holy Spirit makes it clear through the same scompiled scriptures that we have erred. As long as the words I have in the bible i hold give the same understanding /meaning /interpretation to the one you hold, that is the final point. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by HopeAlive14(m): 11:45am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Papist: No one is disputing that Mary is the mother of Jesus. |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Barnabaseloka(m): 11:48am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Syncan:One can address Jesus as the son of David with respect to Jesus coming from David's lineage. Apart from lineage, Jesus is not the son of David. One can address Mary as the mother of Jesus with reference to the birth of Jesus. I said that her motherly role is no more existent, but when talking about the mother of Jesus on earth, you talk of Mary. 1 Like |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Barnabaseloka(m): 12:00pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
dolphinheart:Sorry for the mix-up. We are all learning from each other. The more we study the scriptures, the more enlightened we get. Actually, the woman talked about in Gen.3.15 was not Mary, but Eve. So do not get confused at such. Thanks for the enlightenment. |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by HopeAlive14(m): 12:09pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
segbe88: There is no scripture to back this claim of yours. Mary, just like every other person conceived of human mechanism was born in sin. The only Sinless Person ever to be on this Earth is Jesus Christ. 1 Like |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Scholar8200(m): 12:22pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Syncan:Alright Syncan, who would you say is the author of the epistle to the Ephesians? |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:21pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Syncan: this should have ended the debate. |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:23pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Syncan: gbam! |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:26pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
HopeAlive14: this is a discussion for another day. |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Scholar8200(m): 1:33pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
I appreciate your smileys! Shows the right attitude to the discussion! italo:Take the child was what was said bro! Pls read Philipians 2:6 - 8 6 Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [[b]possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not [c]think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped [d]or retained, 7 But stripped Himself [of all privileges and [e]rightful dignity], so as to assume the guise of a servant (slave), in that He became like men and was born a human being. 8 And after He had appeared in human form, He abased and humbled Himself [still further] and carried His obedience to the extreme of death, even the death of the cross! When the Word became flesh, He was stripped of all Privileges of Deity. The highlighted is not in scripture! It never said He'll be King based on the order of David! This does not apply to Jesus in any way. His kingdom was not an earthly one! Did Solomon sit at the right hand of David? But David prophesied saying: Psalm 110:1 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Where is Mary here? It seems you people are sharing the Glory between Christ and Mary! from sinless conception, to redemption and intercessory office even to the Throne! But see Hebrews 7:25 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. Jesus does the intercession in Heaven , not Mary. Psalm 45:11 shows that the reference was one who was surrendered to the Lordship of Christ' Psalm 45:11 so shall the king greatly desire thy beautywill this be said of a mother to her son!) for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. This prophecy about the church used the imagery of how Ruth a moabite left her people and joined the people of God and how she became one of the ancestors of David. Mary did not need to leave her people! The parable of the 10 virgins further shows how the Church (Bride of Christ) is considered. Yes blessed for a one time, and not eternal, privilege of being used by God for His purpose. Just like Abraham is still regarded as blessed today! Even Abraham who is expressedly called, in scripture, the father of those that believe is not thus adored! Called out ones is a translation of the word ekklesia meaning Church. Not my decision! Or have you also decided that Mary was given the wings of an eagle with which she fled to the wilderness!? (Elijah's chariots of fire led to heaven you know!)The book of Revelations uses these symbols in some places. If you read the chapter and verse, you will see the time that the woman (Israel) will spend in the wilderness as confirmed by the length of the tribulation as shown in Daniel and Revelations viz 3 1/2 years. This surely has nothing to do with Mary but everything to do with the Israelites during the great tribulation! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by italo: 2:10pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Barnabaseloka: So the Catholic Church that compiled the Bible is God's Church. Can God's Church teach error? |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by italo: 2:17pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Even after quoting the verse that says "take the child and his mother," you still lie openly and shamelessly. How can any reasonable person discuss with you? One question: In your protestant gatherings, do they pluck out the eyes and brains of the congregants? |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by italo: 2:26pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Barnabaseloka: So a mother's role is only in having the child obey her? Your mother's role in your life is just to tell you what to do? She doesn't care for you, help you, support you,..your mother doesn't pray for you? No wonder you are so confused. |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Barnabaseloka(m): 2:28pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
italo:There is a difference b/w compilation and writing that which is compiled. You are the one saying that it was the catholic church that compiled the bible. I never said so! All I said was that whether it was compiled by the catholic church or not, it means nothing. What matters is that one obeys that which has been compiled, though comparing scripture with scripture. Yes God's church can teach error if it misquotes and misinterpretes the Scriptures. 1 Like |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Barnabaseloka(m): 2:38pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
italo:I am not confused. The motherly role does not consist only of your mother telling you what to do. The question in the last paragraph also shows motherly role. But my question is: Can you tell me one thing that Mary does today that shows she still plays her motherly role in the life of Jesus? Does she pray for Jesus, or care for Him, or provide for Him? Just provide your answer. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Scholar8200(m): 2:43pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
italo:No need to get worked up, which lie is that? |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by HopeAlive14(m): 3:08pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by HopeAlive14(m): 3:23pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200: God bless you, brother. 1 Like |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by Scholar8200(m): 3:29pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
HopeAlive14:Glory to God, God bless you too! 1 Like |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by HopeAlive14(m): 3:43pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
italo: Let's not equate the Almighty God with human beings. My father is dead and buried. Is he still praying for me? Mary is dead and buried. Is she still praying, supporting or caring for Jesus from the grave? Or any other person? 1 Like |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by italo: 3:55pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Barnabaseloka: If God's Church can teach error, then the scriptures can be erroneous, since it is God's Church that wrote and compiled it. You continue to blaspheme! |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by italo: 3:59pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
HopeAlive14: Jesus said Mary is alive. You limited motherly role to telling a child what to do. Do you still insist on that fallacy? |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by HopeAlive14(m): 4:22pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by italo: 4:33pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
HopeAlive14:Ntcanon.org It is ignorance that makes you say what you're saying. HopeAlive14: So St. Luke could teach error? |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by italo: 4:34pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
HopeAlive14: John 11:26. It is ignorance that makes you say what you're saying. You still haven't said if you insist on the fallacy that motherly role is limited to instructing a child. |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by italo: 4:39pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200: I appreciate your smileys! Shows the right attitude to the discussion! Take the child was what was said bro! Pls read Philipians 2:6 - 8 |
Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? by HopeAlive14(m): 4:49pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
italo: "God's Church" led by the Spirit of God, that wrote and compiled Scripture did not do it in error. But a "God's Church" being humans, and without help from the Holy Spirit, can teach Scipture in error. 1 Like |
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