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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 4:32pm On Jun 24, 2015
carinmom:

Call her anything you like, but you are nonentity compared to her.
Most definitely she has achieved a billion times than myself....but I am not in competition with her!


Btw: Ramadan Kareem
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 4:34pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista:
According to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), foreign reserves consist of official public sector foreign assets that are readily available to, and controlled by the monetary authorities, for direct financing of payment imbalances, and directly regulating the magnitude of such imbalances, through intervention in the exchange markets to affect the currency exchange rate and/or for other purposes.”
www.thisdaylive.com/articles/2007-2012-movement-in-foreign-reserves-account/138991/
Please read that article!

. . . . . . . . . .you are so dull, you can't even read and comprehend the link you posted . . . . . . . . .you have finally confirmed to all what I have known all along . . . . . . . . . . . . . .DULL BOY
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 4:35pm On Jun 24, 2015
lolababe331e:


The point is is that money in the treasury So Buhari is right to say the treasury was empty
Yes, the money is there
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by churchmind: 4:37pm On Jun 24, 2015
MalcoImX:
The former Minister disagrees with the immediate past Minister/Deputy Chairman, National Planning Commission (NPC), Dr. Abubakar Sulaiman who claims former President Jonathan left $30 billion in the national treasury. See Oby Ezekwesili's tweets below...

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http://lindaikeji..com/2015/06/oby-ezekwesili-discredits-ex-ministers.html?m=1
d she devil is nt talking abt BBOG having been used by BOKO HARI to stage manage d evil in d NORTHEAST na GOD GO PUNISH AM ASHY
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Jesusloveyou: 4:39pm On Jun 24, 2015
dunkem21:



Bro, you need to help out before this people balkanize this country out of ignorance.

no need to call ur fellow saTANist for help,none of u know how to manage d economy, d only thing u saTANist know is corruption, how to steal, now d country is dry and lean.

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 4:41pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista:
What is Oby saying? So who owns the $30billion in the External Reserve? Is it Sanusi or Emefielle? This Oby of a woman is dumb
does withdrawing from external reserve make sense to you?

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by dustydee: 4:46pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista:
According to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), foreign reserves consist of official public sector foreign assets that are readily available to, and controlled by the monetary authorities, for direct financing of payment imbalances, and directly regulating the magnitude of such imbalances, through intervention in the exchange markets to affect the currency exchange rate and/or for other purposes.”
www.thisdaylive.com/articles/2007-2012-movement-in-foreign-reserves-account/138991/
Please read that article!


Thanks for the link. The extracts below seem to contradict your positionon the external reserves:
Rewane explained that excess crude account is usually included in the external reserves account, adding that the excess crude is the naira equivalent of the dollar amount. He added that the external resources are made up of the federal government money and money that belong to individuals.

Whenever a ministry or agency of government needs to incur approved expenditure in foreign currency (e.g. payment of goods and services, settlement of external debt, etc) it must provide the naira equivalent to the CBN before the Bank sells the required foreign currency”.
Where will the agencies get the Naira equivalent from if their allocations have been pilfered or reduced? Or will the CBN call the Per secs and say "come and take dollars"?

Enweghara explained, “Let us not forget that out of our so-called ‘’impressive’’ reserves that by late January stood at $45.3 billion, $13 billion is hot money belonging to some foreign speculators, who could withdraw their money anytime they discover better arbitrage elsewhere in the world.
If the government decided to spend from the reserves, how will the CBN pay individuals and corporate entities that makeup part of the reserves? (And by the way of the $30bn, how much belongs to private and institutional investors?)

So, you can see why in the real sense, it is not all that as impressive as it is falsely displayed. Again, another fact is that there are some bonds that are about maturing and it is from our so-called ‘’impressive’’ reserves account those debts should offset.


If the government decides to draw from the reserves, how will it payback the bonds it took when they mature?

Having read the link you posted, I agree with Madam Oby and I think that Ex Minister needs to read and understand how the external reserves work.
Thank you for the link and I hope you read it too.

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by dustmalik: 4:51pm On Jun 24, 2015
saTANoids are so senseless. arguing with them is, like, deliberately setting out to waste one's time.

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 4:51pm On Jun 24, 2015
dustydee:

Having read the link you posted, I agree with Madam Oby and I think that Ex Minister needs to read and understand how the external reserves work.
Thank you for the link and I hope you read it too.

. . . . . . . . . . . grin grin grin . . . . . . . . . . .educating dullito protectionist on read/comprehension 101 grin grin grin

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by henchamb(m): 4:57pm On Jun 24, 2015
Minet16:
Ezekwesili shut up... stop trying to secure misnisterial post for yourself... eyeservice doesn't move PMB. he will not even notice you

Go home n address your illiterate mother like that. Am sure most of the thungs she said was alien to most of us including you. Why dnt u keep calm n learn.
Oby can never look for work.
Mind u she resigned as world bank vice president for africa

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Masculity(m): 4:59pm On Jun 24, 2015
Minet16:
Ezekwesili shut up... stop trying to secure misnisterial post for yourself... eyeservice doesn't move PMB. he will not even notice you


is not easy guy the truth is bitter that is the reason we are where we are today.
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 5:05pm On Jun 24, 2015
torkaka:
. . . . . . . . .same thing I was trying to knock into the head of one dumb goon of the Otuoke order (famous for his protection seeking antics) . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
lol..saw you and the protection seeker slugging it out earlier

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Masculity(m): 5:06pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista:
Most definitely she has achieved a billion times than myself....but I am not in competition with her!


Btw: Ramadan Kareem


bacarnista *3 your response ehh. Dont you get angry
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jun 24, 2015
Mercie97:
lol..saw you and the protection seeker slugging it out earlier
grin grin grin
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 5:15pm On Jun 24, 2015
Obiagelli:

does withdrawing from external reserve make sense to you?
Nwa nne, rapu onye a. You are belittling yourself sparring with this guy. Nairaland is his office; that's where he earns his pay. His life depends on what he is doing.

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by carinmom(f): 5:18pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista:
Most definitely she has achieved a billion times than myself....but I am not in competition with her!


Btw: Ramadan Kareem
Thanx
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 5:18pm On Jun 24, 2015
dustydee:



Thanks for the link. The extracts below seem to contradict your positionon the external reserves:



Where will the agencies get the Naira equivalent from if their allocations have been pilfered or reduced? Or will the CBN call the Per secs and say "come and take dollars"?

If the government decided to spend from the reserves, how will the CBN pay individuals and corporate entities that makeup part of the reserves? (And by the way of the $30bn, how much belongs to private and institutional investors?)


If the government decides to draw from the reserves, how will it payback the bonds it took when they mature?

Having read the link you posted, I agree with Madam Oby and I think that Ex Minister needs to read and understand how the external reserves work.
Thank you for the link and I hope you read it too.
Don't get me wrong. I never said the government should withdraw from the reserve. My argument is against Oby's position that makes it appear like the $30b in the reserve belongs to entities other than the FG. Every country needs reserve, in fact, this majorly precipitated the creation of ECA/SWF. The ECA/SWF was/is meant to be the next port of call should the country experience embarrassing financial crises. But the Governors filed a lawsuit in the SC and even threatened the GEJ led government to share it. The money was share and a leftover of $2billion is left.

What is the argument of Oby here? Is it that the ER belongs to another entity or what? When Buhari said treasury is virtually empty, what does he mean? Isn't he aware that the earnings of the FG is not even enough to meet statutory obligation due to fall in oil price, hence, they have to exhaust them and even borrow? I would have taken Buhari and Oby serious IF the Reserve is depleted.


NB: I am against spending monies in Reserve whether ECA or ER
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 5:20pm On Jun 24, 2015
Obiagelli:

does withdrawing from external reserve make sense to you?
Do you have comprehension problem? Where did I advocate for the withdrawal of funds from the reserve when I am aware of the purpose it serve? If you don't understand my argument tell me or free me.
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by emmasege: 5:22pm On Jun 24, 2015
Who's this ex-minister?, Oby.
Arrogance in speech is one reason why I dislike this lousy woman. Her manner of approach sometimes is full of ego and overrated self esteem. I pity the man whose name this woman answers.
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 5:22pm On Jun 24, 2015
Lol bros, I do but not easily. Sometimes I have no choice but to control it
Masculity:



bacarnista *3 your response ehh. Dont you get angry
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by richeso: 5:27pm On Jun 24, 2015
i think this woman came out and fight for BBOG, so she too na full politician ?

Unbelievable.. i today henceforth discredit the value of BBOG and consider anyone believing that crap a BIG FOOOL.
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by NgeneUkwenu(f): 5:55pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista doesn't know more than opening senseless threads where he does his Copy and paste. I don't why some Illiterate Taniods like him feel, he has anything to offer.

Does it even occur to him that Yardua Left over 60Billions Dollars in the reserve, which his useless Otuoke brother depleted through mismanagement to the current sorry state?

Abeg! Make una no dey mention that guy for wey I dey mbok!

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by NgeneUkwenu(f): 5:57pm On Jun 24, 2015
lalasticlala! In all fairness this should be on the front page to complement the earlier thread! This particular tweet snapshot is more loaded than the one earlier! Thank you!

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Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista:
Do you have comprehension problem? Where did I advocate for the withdrawal of funds from the reserve when I am aware of the purpose it serve? If you don't understand my argument tell me or free me.


how then does it translate to the treasury the past administration left us with
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by AlPeter: 6:13pm On Jun 24, 2015
so many read but can't understand... sad
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by laudate: 6:15pm On Jun 24, 2015
Let us ask Madam Oby first, how much she left in the accounts of the Ministry of Education, when she was education minister... undecided
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by fyneguy: 6:18pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista:
What is Oby saying? So who owns the $30billion in the External Reserve? Is it Sanusi or Emefielle? This Oby of a woman is dumb

You Barcanista, are the dumbo.

CBN already gave Jona the Naira equivalent which was spent.
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by joseph1832(m): 6:48pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista:
Obiagello is a dummy. So who owns the $30billion External Reserve that CBN is managing? Does it belong to Sanusi or Emiefele? That CBN Act mandate the CBN to manage the External Reserve does not negate the fact that the liquidity still belongs to Nigeria.
Only in Nigeria will you see a political prostitute call a professor "dummy". Just like Mama Piss called Wole Soyinka "Mad old prof".

I wonder who know pass, barcanista or Oby? And some people go dey swallow wetin de guy dey talk.

Wonders no fit ever end for this naija!
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by dustydee: 6:50pm On Jun 24, 2015
barcanista:
Don't get me wrong. I never said the government should withdraw from the reserve. My argument is against Oby's position that makes it appear like the $30b in the reserve belongs to entities other than the FG. Every country needs reserve, in fact, this majorly precipitated the creation of ECA/SWF. The ECA/SWF was/is meant to be the next port of call should the country experience embarrassing financial crises. But the Governors filed a lawsuit in the SC and even threatened the GEJ led government to share it. The money was share and a leftover of $2billion is left.

What is the argument of Oby here? Is it that the ER belongs to another entity or what? When Buhari said treasury is virtually empty, what does he mean? Isn't he aware that the earnings of the FG is not even enough to meet statutory obligation due to fall in oil price, hence, they have to exhaust them and even borrow? I would have taken Buhari and Oby serious IF the Reserve is depleted.


NB: I am against spending monies in Reserve whether ECA or ER
You seem to have misunderstood her. She said external reserve is money that has been spent already (FG exchanged it for naira or other currencies). Hope you are not suggesting that if the President needs money he can dip into the external reserve and spend? If that is what you are insinuating, then I give up.
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by mikeywise(m): 7:36pm On Jun 24, 2015
dustydee:

You seem to have misunderstood her. She said external reserve is money that has been spent already (FG exchanged it for naira or other currencies). Hope you are not suggesting that if the President needs money he can dip into the external reserve and spend? If that is what you are insinuating, then I give up.
That guy you quoted knows what he is doing, you don't have to blame him, he has to earn his pay.
Re: Oby Ezekwesili Discredits Ex Minister's Claim That GEJ Left $30bn In Treasury by Minet16(m): 8:35pm On Jun 24, 2015
henchamb:


Go home n address your illiterate mother like that. Am sure most of the thungs she said was alien to most of us including you. Why dnt u keep calm n learn.
Oby can never look for work.
Mind u she resigned as world bank vice president for africa



lol she left to come and chop misnisterial post, which she did

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