MizJanet:


Shame on you ! NEXT TIME , dont just rush to say someone is not truthful if u gat no evidence .

limamintruth:



Oh no dearie, the confusion is solely from you, not Christianity

If you properly re-read 1 Timothy 6:14-16, you'd realise the said verse refers to Jesus Christ in all His awesome glory as God the Father.
Hence, no mortal man has ever seen or can ever see God the Father in His encompassing glory cos no mortal man can withstand the power of His presence.

A simpler explanation here is thus:
Jesus Christ in heaven is God the Father (of which 1 Timothy 6:15 talks about & whom no mortal man can see);

While Jesus Christ on earth is 'the Son of God' (whom mortal men have seen & have even interacted with in person);

& finally Jesus Christ living inside of us believers is 'the Holy Spirit' (whom man does not see but feels His presence & voice).

Understand?

MizJanet:


You know where you got it all wrong : @underlined , the theory that Jesus is the Father , even your fellow xtians will bash you for saying such .

malvisguy212:
see, the op show how spiritual knowledgeable you are " study to show thyself approved"

John 20:25
25 So the other disciples told him, “We
have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the
nail marks in his hands and put my
Finger where the nails were, and put my
hand into his side, I will not believe.”

Here, Jesus ressurecte with his body "flesh" but Thomas did not believe until when he saw the Lord , as a matter of fact, Jesus spend FORTY days with them and he ascend to heaven. As long as he ressurected with his flesh, human will see him , Jesus even appeared to 500 apostles at once. This is the points; the Jesus that minister to them for more than 33 years is still the same Jesus that ressurected.hope you understand?

1 Timothy 6:16
Who only hath immortality, dwelling
In the light which no man can
approach unto; whom no man hath
seen, nor can see: to whom be honour
and power everlasting. Amen.

1Timothy 6:16 refers to the same figure being described in John 5:37. "And the Father who sent me has himself
Testified concerning me. You have never
Heard his voice NOR SEEN HIS FORM "

Revelation 1:7
"Look, he is coming with the clouds," and "every eye will see him , even those who pierced him"; and all peoples on earth "will mourn because of him." So shall it be! Amen.

Jesus ressurecte with his body but now in heaven He is glorify and when he return All those who pierced him will see him, as long as Jesus still exist in his body, people will still see him. The bible even say God choses to revealed him self to who he pleased:

Matthew 11:27
"All things have been committed to me
by my Father. No one knows the Son
except the Father, and no one knows the
Father except the Son and those to
Whom the SON CHOOSES TO REAVEAL HIMSELF TO.

You see, if Jesus chooses to revealed himself to everybody, he will. NO contradiction here, you lack scriptural knowledge.

ProphetUdeme:
if the bible doesnt seem real to you but just a bunch of compiled fictions then after reading it you can dump it in your recycle bin. #leave #us #alone. Allow us to be deceived. no problem. The End shall justify the means

damilareoye:
what is the essence of conversing with someone who has chosen his/her path?

CaptainJune:


Truly, this is baffling and yet you see Christians trying to reason with an overgrown kid who is ready to ask many questions but is in no mood to listen to any of the answers. Ignoring her would easily have done the job that teaching her can never achieve, which would then have left a lasting message or impression on her ignorant reasoning.

MizJanet:

All i see you doing is just to make NOISE, what exactly have you contribute to the topic so far ? Nothing .

MizJanet:

All i see you doing is just to make NOISE, what exactly have you contribute to the topic so far ? Nothing .

CaptainJune:


What have you done with the great contributions from others that you seek my little contribution?

You are free to disagree in opinion with people but when you become so addicted to twisting and turning, ignorantly and blindly, the fundamental beliefs of others in order to derive sadistic pleasure at habitually mocking their freely offered explanations to your ill-prompted questions, then your actions betray a deep disorder of reasoning.

I won't compound your reasoning disorder by offering you any explanations. It is for your own good that I ignore you .

MizJanet:

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Medicis

@Mizjanet you can actually see Jesus (son) John 20:25 but no one has ever seen the father 1 Timothy 6:16

Scholar8200:
1 Timothy 6:15

15 which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 who only hath immortality, dwelling in [size=14pt]the light[/size] which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

The op is referring to the light not the Person. consider the change in pronouns.

MizJanet:


do you have to lie about everything ? "who" and " whom " in that verse is reffering to the person , the only pronoun identifying the light is " which"

If the " WHOM no man hath seen nor can see " refers to the light , it means " WHOM be honour and power everlasting" also refers to the light ! Do u agree ?

Scholar8200:
I noticed that pronoun (Whom) after submitting meaning that analysis was not correct. Now let's consider the context:
1 Timothy 6:13-16


13 In the presence of God, Who preserves alive all living things, and of Christ Jesus, Who in His testimony before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I [solemnly] charge you

14 To keep all His precepts unsullied and flawless, irreproachable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Anointed One),

15 Which [appearing] will be shown forth in His own proper time by the blessed, only Sovereign (Ruler), the King of kings and the Lord of lords,

16 Who alone has immortality [in the sense of exemption from every kind of death] and lives in unapproachable light, Whom no man has ever
seen or can see. Unto Him be honor and everlasting power and dominion. Amen (so be it).

This shows that this concluding part had reference both to the Father and Son and verse 16 focuses the Father.


Verse 15 agrees with Christ declaration that only the Father knows the Day when all things shall be wrapped up.

sportsmaster:


stop wasting your time with this lady.
She dint come to learn,she came here to mock.
2cor4:3 is referring directly to her.

Scholar8200:
I noticed that pronoun (Whom) after submitting meaning that analysis was not correct. Now let's consider the context:
1 Timothy 6:13-16


13 In the presence of God, Who preserves alive all living things, and of Christ Jesus, Who in His testimony before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I [solemnly] charge you

14 To keep all His precepts unsullied and flawless, irreproachable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Anointed One),

15 Which [appearing] will be shown forth in His own proper time by the blessed, only Sovereign (Ruler), the King of kings and the Lord of lords,

16 Who alone has immortality [in the sense of exemption from every kind of death] and lives in unapproachable light, Whom no man has ever
seen or can see. Unto Him be honor and everlasting power and dominion. Amen (so be it).

This shows that this concluding part had reference both to the Father and Son

And verse 16 focuses the Father.


Verse 15 agrees with Christ declaration that only the Father knows the Day when all things shall be wrapped up.

MizJanet:
If you happen to meet a man who said ' I have seen buhari' but later say " no man has seen buhari" what will you call him ? *winks* Of course , he is contradicting himself , with this example in your minds carefully look at the below texts

John 20:25 " so the other disciples told him, we HAVE SEEN the Lord"

1Tim 6:16 " whom no man hath seen " .

1st statement showed men has seen Jesus WHILE the second says no man has seen Jesus . Confusion And Contradiction !

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Level 2

1 Tim 6:16 " whom no man ... CAN SEE"

But notice the text below

Rev 1:7 " Look, he is coming with the clouds and every eye WILL SEE HIM"

Buhahaha , the 1st says no man Can See Him While the 2nd says every eye shall SEE HIM .

Bunch of confusion . Lol , is the bible confuse ?

MizJanet:


You know where you got it all wrong : @underlined , the theory that Jesus is the Father , even your fellow xtians will bash you for saying such .

godoluwa:
u must be sick upstair. u lacked comprehension

MizJanet:

Of course , insult is you peoples foremost character .
Am not suprised

sportsmaster:

stop wasting your time with this lady.
She dint come to learn,she came here to mock.
2cor4:3 is referring directly to her.

MizJanet:


Are you serious at all ? @ underlined , that verse said " whom ALONE " is alone used for two persons ?



@bold , do you forget that verse 16 is a CONTINUATION of verse 15 ?

With your answer , So the father is the person christians called " King of kings and Lord of lords" ? Its no more Jesus right ?

adsonstone:
Mizjanet, who are you?
An Atheist?

adsonstone:
Mizjanet, who are you?
An Atheist?

Tjayjosh:

She's an agent of satan.

Scholar8200:
This was a discerning advice: The concluding part refers to vs 13-16. The post before this clearly points out the fact that vs 15 (&16) relates to the Father, while vs 13 relates to Christ.

That title applies to GOD (One Attribute of the Triune God) just as in Revelations one place calls the Father Alpha and Omega while another place uses the same for the Son.

I dont expect you to agree to this too; the tone of your replies have been that of one who is out to scoff.

MizJanet:

Jesus owns that name according to bible , your stuborn attitude will even make you disobey your holy book .

Revelation 19:16 " on his robe and on his thigh , he has this NAME written ' King of kings and Lord of lords '" , that NAME belongs to whom ? Jesus or his Father. Very Clear .

LOL , anyway am not suprised though . The moment you started by saying those features applies to the Light . I knew you are clueless