emrain:

IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE

Now that is very correct. . .

Esdb3:


In other words you are SMART. Cool.

Keep calm and love your logic. I will stick to worshipping God. We will all reach the end of the road soon. Why your science can't change the 'dead' state you'll know

And god can?

Esdb3:


It is even in the bible that it has been around for long. But it has never been LEGALIZED.

Exactly, this is the 21st century.

why you scared? Torh atleast lucifer gets to be trampled upon too.

scared of what? last time i checked fictions don't scare me. . . It only fear those who imagine they are real like you do.

Am tired jare. Everybody will see his own life through himself.
But I'll do my own path.

Exactly what i have been trying to tell you.. to live your own life and have s3x with who you want and leave homos to theirs.

John Jesus loves you and is calling you to accept him as your lord an personal saviour.

Lmao. . . #Sighs. . ok

johnydon22:
People consider it abnormal because many are ignorant of the causes. . . .I for one as a hetero hate anything homosexual but you have to first understand the plight of others before you condemn them or tag them abnormal.

Its caused by over secretion or under secretion of testosterone in both male and female children..

Just like short people are short because of under secretion of pituitary gland. . . Unless you consider this hormonal defect abnormal then yes homosexuality is abnormal but if you don't then there you have it.

If there is an over secretion of testosterone in women and under secretion in males, is there a possible medical correction? If there is, wouldn't that be sufficient treatment of such an ailment?

Kay17:


If there is an over secretion of testosterone in women and under secretion in males, is there a possible medical correction? If there is, wouldn't that be sufficient treatment of such an ailment?

Its not an ailment just like under secretion of pituitary gland (shortness) is not an ailment. . .

About reversing this, am not sure hormonal defects can be corrected after it has taken its effects.

But i think just like cases of albinism can be corrected shortly after birth, this can also be corrected if detected on time

johnydon22:


Its not an ailment just like under secretion of pituitary gland (shortness) is not an ailment. . .

About reversing this, am not sure hormonal defects can be corrected after it has taken its effects.

But i think just like cases of albinism can be corrected shortly after birth, this can also be corrected if detected on time

What if it can be corrected like albinism, would you give them countless rights based on a curable ailment?

Kay17:


What if it can be corrected like albinism, would you give them countless rights based on a curable ailment?

again its not an ailment.......


I don't see why you shouldn't give two adults that consents right to do so after all nobody is restricting your own right to have sex. .

its like saying you are not supposed to give short people rights to contest for election because it can be corrected.

johnydon22:


again its not an ailment.......


I don't see why you shouldn't give two adults that consents right to do so after all nobody is restricting your own right to have sex. .

its like saying you are not supposed to give short people rights to contest for election because it can be corrected.

Assuming this could be corrected. Assumingg

johnydon22:
lol.... I hate homosexuality cus i was born straight, i love girls so much....




Count yourself lucky that you were born straight.
but bros the only way for you to live longer is to leave others alone to live their life the way they want.
what exactly is your business with people and what they do with themselves.

live your life and stop paying mind to others after all they are not doing it with you...


There is no race, colour, class, religion, sexual orientation, no system, no nothing that makes us better than anyone else. we are all deserving of love

The BOLDED are golden.

Isn't it such a sad, tragic and laughable irony that you, sir, an atheist, are preaching this golden rule to blokes who call themselves and parade themselves as followers of Jesus.

No wonder the bible said ".. And Jesus Wept.."

johnydon22:


First of all homosexuals are born, it is a defect when a male child has under secretion of testosterone or when a female has a much more percentage of the same hormone...

So if your or my child turns out gay, there is nothing you can do it him/her. . . she/he was born that way. there is nothing you can do to change them or make them like the opposite sex, it is what they are tho they are some cases who weren't born that way

You can only try to talk to him/her but yet the path he/she choose to live life still remains his/her choice and his/hers alone not mine. . .

For me personally i would do nothing because there is nothing to do, but for a country Nigeria with anti-gay bills they should respect the constitution or face the constitution

be happy you weren't born gay and hope your child doesn't turn out so too


now let me boomerang that question;

what would you do?

these are pseudo science,homosexuality is a psychological disorder that can affect anyone.even thou am attracted to same-sex I'll never engage in homosexual activity talkless of marriage.

Kay17:


If there is an over secretion of testosterone in women and under secretion in males, is there a possible medical correction? If there is, wouldn't that be sufficient treatment of such an ailment?

But before you can call something an ailment, don't you have to see and doesn't the sufferer have to complain of the adverse effects of such an ailment?
Can you diagnose someone of a terrible illness when the person does not complain and may never complain of any adverse symptoms or effects?
Isn't analogous to pointing at the spec in another person's eye while ignorring the possible and even Visible logs in your own eyes?
This is what it always boils down to.
And, funny enough, Jesus supposedly forewarned about this repeating shortcoming of human nature.

Religion cannot ever sieze to puzzle me.
All these religious nuts loosing sleep about homosexuality and same sex marriage are all guilty everyday of any number of sins, but they Delude themselves with their get-out-of-jail cards every Sunday.

Take for example, African Americans are by far the most religious in The US, and by far the most homophobic, even though they have historically been the most exploited by the very same religion.
Even more laughable is that same African Americans also have accepted having children out of wedlock as their cultural norm, selectively and conveniently forgetting, that their big bibles and their big God also hated and prohibits it.

Why don't we see an uproar over unwed motherhoods, considering that big god also hates and prohibits ?


Selective amnesia?
Hypocrisy ?
Double standards ?
Schizophrenic God?
It sure works very well in religion.

johnydon22:


Don't know why the op like mentioning me in all his posts. . .

I think he is trying to measure your divk size. Don't let him look at your toe, he just might be able to know the grit...

Esdb3,

It's obvious you're a closet homosexual. From your other thread about doing personal research to measure the length and grit of your fellow man's covk. What was the premise of the research, what did you do with the results. I think you are gay. Because you said most of your research were carried out in boarding school, public bathrooms things. And with friends and male family members. Why would a heterosexual concerns himself with the correlation of the size of his fellow man covk and his toe.

Also, I think you're simply fighting your homosexual urges because your religious beliefs demands that you flee from such thoughts. Mind you, this legislation of man fuvking man was passed in America not Nigeria, why are you getting an erec.tion for this matter. When Nigeria passed laws against homosexuality Americans did not claim that their values were under attack. Are you saying Nigeria can't speak for herself.

Lastly, there is a list of 16 american politicians that fought against homosexuality, at,the end of the day they themselves were caught in the act of homosexualism. My friend you're doing the exact same thing. We go soon catch you red handed.

GooseBaba:
Esdb3,

It's obvious you're a closet homosexual. From your other thread about doing personal research to measure the length and grit of your fellow man's covk. What was the premise of the research, what did you do with the results. I think you are gay. Because you said most of your research were carried out in boarding school, public bathrooms things. And with friends and male family members. Why would a heterosexual concerns himself with the correlation of the size of his fellow man covk and his toe.

Also, I think you're simply fighting your homosexual urges because your religious beliefs demands that you flee from such thoughts. Mind you, this legislation of man fuvking man was passed in America not Nigeria, why are you getting an erec.tion for this matter. When Nigeria passed laws against homosexuality Americans did not claim that their values were under attack. Are you saying Nigeria can't speak for herself.

Lastly, there is a list of 16 american politicians that fought against homosexuality, at,the end of the day they themselves were caught in the act of homosexualism. My friend you're doing the exact same thing. We go soon catch you red handed.

I laugh in chinese. Mr homo-haunter. I love finding trends and studying human beings and I discovered the toe and dick thing and you can cross check if I'm wrong.

Esdb3:



I laugh in chinese. Mr homo-haunter. I love finding trends and studying human beings and I discovered the toe and dick thing and you can cross check if I'm wrong.

No worries... Dey there dey laugh in "likingdick" We go soon catch you.

All your hatred for homo and the evidence against you only points towards your struggles with your homosexuality. The blood of Jesus can't help you here, that is if you've not indulged yet... We go soon catch you..!

GooseBaba:


No worries... Dey there dey laugh in "likingdick" We go soon catch you.

All your hatred for homo and the evidence against you only points towards your struggles with your homosexuality. The blood of Jesus can't help you here, that is if you've not indulged yet... We go soon catch you..!

Just two thread on male sexuality? Torh u don vex me self. Prepare for my sex threads soon

Esdb3:


Just two thread on male sexuality? Torh u don vex me self. Prepare for my sex threads soon

Male sexuality ... Guy talk truth... We're anonymous here..

Esdb3:
How Lucifer achieved the same sex goal.

First, he brought in what we see as civilization and embracing things no matter how shrewd they are.

Hmm let's see. Lucifer gave us civilization.

Esdb3:

Secondly, he gave them names. Woman with woman is wrong there is no other name but he called it 'lesbianlism'. That gave it a sense of existence and categorization.

Gave us words to speak with.

Esdb3:

Thirdly, he made christianity into a religion. No longer a thing people lived by. But just a sect like the lesbian sect.

Gave us Christianity.

Esdb3:

Lastly, he pushed the bible away totally so that humans no longer consulted it as their moral guide. Created atheists that made it look like just a literature you can choose to read. Even made them call God stupid and someone the 'SMARTS' ones shouldn't believe. Went on to be so convincing that some don't believe satan exists.

Revealed to us the fact that the Bible is just a book not worthy of being a moral guide. He even made non-believers while God was asleep.

Esdb3:

And you say Lucifer is dumb?! That guy is a genius but he'll always meet THE Deity a step ahead though it never seems so.



Johnydon22

If he could do all that while God was present, and you confess that he is a genius, why should anyone bother with your God? It appears that Lucifer is smarter and more powerful than your God is.

thehomer:


Hmm let's see. Lucifer gave us civilization.



Gave us words to speak with.



Gave us Christianity.



Revealed to us the fact that the Bible is just a book not worthy of being a moral guide. He even made non-believers while God was asleep.



If he could do all that while God was present, and you confess that he is a genius, why should anyone bother with your God? It appears that Lucifer is smarter and more powerful than your God is.

Serve him then or who is stopping you.

crusadistic:
these are pseudo science,homosexuality is a psychological disorder that can affect anyone.even thou am attracted to same-sex I'll never engage in homosexual activity talkless of marriage.

I wonder if the definition of pseudo science change the last couple of minutes..

Esdb3:


Serve him then or who is stopping you.

No one. But I hope you're serving him too since based on what you've said, he's the smarter option.

Kay17:


But if homosexuality is some form of deformity ( in the sense that the right hormones are not realised in the right quantities ) then we should be hospitalizing them rather than create a legal avenue to worsen the condition. Don't you think?

Trash. Not all deformity leads to hospitalization.

dazzlingbeau:
Trash. Not all deformity leads to hospitalization.

We are talking common hormonal deformity here. Trans people take hormones that shows the simplicity of curing these demons

johnydon22:
lol.... I hate homosexuality cus i was born straight, i love girls so much....




Count yourself lucky that you were born straight.
but bros the only way for you to live longer is to leave others alone to live their life the way they want.
what exactly is your business with people and what they do with themselves.

live your life and stop paying mind to others after all they are not doing it with you...


There is no race, colour, class, religion, sexual orientation, no system, no nothing that makes us better than anyone else. we are all deserving of love

This is Christian morality you are espousing. We atheists, at least as secularists ought to throw off the yoke of Christian morality. Love is the vaguest term and necessarily coupled with hatred. Everybody does not deserve love, to say otherwise is hypocritical. If everyone is loved, then who is hated?! And don't try to pin same sex marriage to love. Love is not even necessary for marriage.

Kay17:


This is Christian morality you are espousing.

I don't even know what you mean by christian morality because the last time i checked morality belongs to no distinct religion.

We atheists, at least as secularists ought to throw off the yoke of Christian morality.

Maybe you are mistaking atheism to entail dogmas

Again atheism only implies disbelief in gods, so secularity makes no one atheistic. I still don't really get what you mean by christian morality. . Morality (in any sense) is not distinctively muslim or christian or any religion at all, morality is human it belongs to no ism. and does not depend upon any book, creed or supernatural for foundation cus morality is a foundation itself.

Love is the vaguest term and necessarily coupled with hatred. Everybody does not deserve love, to say otherwise is hypocritical.

This is seriously your opinion and ideology mine is drastically different.
to me Everybody and everything deserves love .

So do not try to impose your ideologies on me, that we are both atheists doesn't make our ideologies alike. . . We only have one thing in common which is "disbelief in gods"
and please again, stop stereotyping atheists with your ideologies, we do not share the same ideology.

If everyone is loved, then who is hated?!

No one necessarily needs hating anyone, after all hatred is a burden to the hater

And don't try to pin same sex marriage to love. Love is not even necessary for marriage.

I am sure i never did that, maybe in your quickness to reply to air your views you couldn't quite understand what i wrote

the bolded part of my post was not about marriage love or any kind of intimate love or there so, it was about tolerance, goodness, and general good of all... Read it again

There is no race, colour, class, religion, sexual orientation, no system,
no nothing that makes us better than anyone else. we are all deserving
of love

johnydon22:
I don't even know what you mean by christian morality because the last time i checked morality belongs to no distinct religion.
Maybe you are mistaking atheism to entail dogmas

Again atheism only implies disbelief in gods, so secularity makes no one atheistic. I still don't really get what you mean by christian morality. . Morality (in any sense) is not distinctively muslim or christian or any religion at all, morality is human it belongs to no ism. and does not depend upon any book, creed or supernatural for foundation cus morality is a foundation itself.
This is seriously your opinion and ideology mine is drastically different.
to me Everybody and everything deserves love .

So do not try to impose your ideologies on me, that we are both atheists doesn't make our ideologies alike. . . We only have one thing in common which is "disbelief in gods"
and please again, stop stereotyping atheists with your ideologies, we do not share the same ideology.
No one necessarily needs hating anyone, after all hatred is a burden to the hater

I am sure i never did that, maybe in your quickness to reply to air your views you couldn't quite understand what i wrote

the bolded part of my post was not about marriage love or any kind of intimate love or there so, it was about tolerance, goodness, and general good of all... Read it again

Dude what do you even have to say about the bible's prophecies about folks like you and other things.

Esdb3:



Dude what do you even have to say about the bible's prophecies about folks like you and other things.

Bible prophecy about what?

This thread is just full of laughs, from a guy that compares homosexuals to serial killers to a chick that thinks once a society permits open display of homosexual relationships that everyone will suddenly "turn gay"..lol!

davien:
This thread is just full of laughs, from a guy that compares homosexuals to serial killers to a chick that thinks once a society permits open display of homosexual relationships that everyone will suddenly "turn gay"..lol!

Na so i see am ooooo

@johnydon22

The morality that existed in the 19th century and now, are they the same?

Kay17:
@johnydon22

The morality that existed in the 19th century and now, are they the same?

[b]I think your question is socially acceptable characters not morality. . .

Morality: Are actions or events that decreases individual human suffering and improves societal well being, freedom, equality and justice.

So moral actions remains constant bearing to the scope of this definition.

A socially accepted action are actions that are regarded as acceptable in a given culture or society or religion.
And socially accepted actions are subjective concepts that varies from place to place, culture to culture and religion to religion.

To give you a detailed example of socially accepted actions and morality. .
In the medieval ages, something regarded as the dark ages when Christianity ruled all of europe. it was a socially accepted action to burn, behead and kill heretics. To that age it was acceptable but going by the meaning of morality those actions were not anything near moral.…and these action phased out of socially acceptable action as the time went by which is why nobody has the right to do it now.

So at this age, moral concept of the world remains the same but the socially accepted actions (which in some cases still bears no weight on a morality) varies and is subjective.

So answering your question i would say "The socially accepted actions of the 19th century is drastically different from that of today's world being the 21st century[/b]

johnydon22:

[b]I think your question is socially acceptable characters not morality. . .

Morality: Are actions or events that decreases individual human suffering and improves societal well being, freedom, equality and justice.

So moral actions remains constant bearing to the scope of this definition.

A socially accepted action are actions that are regarded as acceptable in a given culture or society or religion.
And socially accepted actions are subjective concepts that varies from place to place, culture to culture and religion to religion.

To give you a detailed example of socially accepted actions and morality. .
In the medieval ages, something regarded as the dark ages when Christianity ruled all of europe. it was a socially accepted action to burn, behead and kill heretics. To that age it was acceptable but going by the meaning of morality those actions were not anything near moral.…and these action phased out of socially acceptable action as the time went by which is why nobody has the right to do it now.

So at this age, moral concept of the world remains the same but the socially accepted actions (which in some cases still bears no weight on a morality) varies and is subjective.

So answering your question i would say "The socially accepted actions of the 19th century is drastically different from that of today's world being the 21st century[/b]

What if this meaning of morality, is not a meaning which everyone shares with you; would I be justified to say it is your own morality?