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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:45pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Augustus, you can apply loose definitions to anything and make anything anything Example: What is an egg? An egg is a hard thing that contains a nutritional liquid substance! Hence a coca-cola is an egg! No! An egg is a hard circular/dome shaped thing that contains a nutritional liquid substance! Hence a rotten Watermelon is an egg! An egg is an egg because we have applied a specific name to a specific thing with very specific characteristics, and according to the manufacturer the ATR42 is an MPA platform. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:47pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
agaugust: And we build Rooikats, Badger IFV's, G6, Ratles, Ingwe, A-darter, Mokopa, radar, comms, datalinks, all ammunition types, GPMG's, AGL's, autocannons, drones, optics, mortars, MRAP's and attack helicopters Importation of components does not mean that we do not build a thing, dont be an dolt! And yes, we import some things - as apposed to Nigeria whom imports 99.9% of things!! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:52pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
patches689: Nigeria too builds LAV, APC, RPG, NVG, LMG, HMG, rifles, mortars, drones, robots, all types of ammunition, rocket pods, etc. If SANDF does not import aircraft, vehicle, ships, etc.....how will you mount or install your home made hardware on them ? Plus you don't make any engines for anything, if you lose a vehicle in battle, you need to import new engine from Europe to build replacement. South Africa is NOT the arms manufacturing giant you think it is. You are a major arms importer like other African nations . 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:57pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
patches689: ATR-42 has full ESM capabilities, and ESM is linked to ELINT, they are the same thing.... "There are two basic types of ESM : ELectronic INTelligence (ELINT) ELectronic INTelligence primarily dedicated to the interception and analysis of radar emissions from surveillance radars. COMmunications INTelligence (COMINT) COMmunications INTelligence, as its name implies, is intended for the interception of communications, whether by voice or datalink." http://www.radartutorial.eu/16.eccm/ja06.en.html I forced you to sit down in a Nigerian classroom again today.....ESM = ELINT and NAF ATR-42 has both ! . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:57pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
agaugust: OMG - you really think that pathetic list of low tech license produced cr@p compares to what we make? bwa-ahahahahahahahahahaha So... how does that change the fact that we build weapons? Did i say we build engines or did i say we build weapons? South Africa is an arms giant, we are in the top 20 exporters in the world. And we are not a major importers - you improt everything, we import only a tiny minority of things We have an utterly superior arms manufacturing industry, it is not only bigger but its is way more advanced, this is beyond debate Go brag about home made AK47's to Togo 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:58pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Augustus, you can apply loose definitions to anything and make anything anything Example: What is an egg? An egg is a hard thing that contains a nutritional liquid substance! Hence a coca-cola is an egg! No! An egg is a hard circular/dome shaped thing that contains a nutritional liquid substance! Hence a rotten Watermelon is an egg! Its an MPA, according to the manufacturer. Your ATR has the abilitiy to detect - but what ability does it have to analyze emissions? What COMINT abilities does it have? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:01pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
patches689: Go brag about your MRAP with European engine to Sudan I proved that both SA and NIG are major arms importers. When SA builds tanks, jets, frigates, come back and talk to us here.....your entire military runs on European imported hardware ! . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:03pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
patches689: I am still waiting for you to name the NAF ATR-42 radar and it's range....are you afraid again ? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:04pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
agaugust:We bragged about it to America and they decided to buy them You proved nothing. You can try to drag us down to your level, but it doesnt work. The majority of our equipment is domestically produced - the majority of that majority is domestically designed 99.9% of the equipment in your arsenal is imported. We can sustain a major war without any imports (as we did in the past) you cannot 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:05pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
agaugust: I am still waiting for many things from you Why are you still afraid? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:14pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
patches689: Some kinds damn deadly MPA with ISTAR and AWACS capabilities all combined into one aircraft.....NAF ATR-42. patches689: ELINT, not COMINT, that's what it majors on, ELINT. Does ELINT exist in SANDF ? No ! Analyze emissions detected? Easy job for ATR-42.... "ATR-42 ELECTRONIC SUPPORT MEASURES (ESM) Functions ■ Detection of long range radar targets during night and in adverse weather conditions, even in dense signal environment ■ Recording data and loading libraries on intercepted radar Capabilities ■ Radar emissions detection in a dense electromagnetic environment (2-18 Ghz) ■ Radar emissions analysis, identification and location ■ Tracking on multiple emissions simultaneously ■ High degree of flexibility to meet the evolution radar of the environment" http://www.atraircraft.com/datas/download_center/38/atr_42_surveyor_2004_38.pdf Patrick Patches, leave this NAF ATR-42 Surveyor random arguments, you have lost the battle completely ! NAF ATR-42 is MPA + ISTAR + ESM + ELINT + AWACS.....multi-purpose aircraft equal to the best in USA and EU ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:40pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
patches689:Jap stem 100% saam! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:40pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
patches689: And how has that ended up for South-Africa? The majority of your land systems use European made parts. South-Africa only mostly builds hulls. You cannot sustain a war without major imports, you are self-dependant on european imports like every other African Nations. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:42pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Henry120:What do you mean? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:47pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
jln115: The MRAPs, how has that worked out for South-Africa, with Bushmaster, Navatis, Sandcat, Typhoon K, Typhoon, Cougar, BMC...... You now get the point? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Henry120:Uhm.....Obviously it worked out well because they imported millions of dollars worth of MRAPs from us! 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 7:08pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
jln115:Israel was helping you in nuclear in the 80's. Period. America pulled the plugs. Fact. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
lezz:Who says we didn't help them? As far as i have it a lot of countries co develop weapons! 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:34pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
jln115: The U.S fielded 12,700 MRAPs in Afghanistan from 2007 - eventual withdrawal. By 2012, the U.S had spent $50 billion in manufacturing 27,000 MRAP vehicle. Here you are bragging about the less than 150 systems BAE systems South-Africa sold to the Americans. 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:06pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Boko Haram kills 150 people in Nigeria. http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/africa/76979-150702-nigeria-at-least-97-dead-in-latest-boko-haram-massacre |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:13pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
agaugust: SA builts automobile engines under licence from European companies. Nigeria import them as a whole. SA contributed immensely on Gripens. They changed the whole face and look of Centurion tanks and Lynx helicopters and made them legally to be their products. Olifant tank is no longer a centurion tank. It might have started as centurion but it is no longer a centurion and does not use centurion spare parts at all. The olifant tank can now only be maintained by SA and nobody else 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:41pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Henry120:How many MRAPs have Nigeria exported to the US?..........Or just exported? 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:43pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
jln115:give me a source which says south Africa is more industrialized than China. On your next post please. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:46pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:51pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
jln115: We don't export MRAPs, but you do. You claim to export a product, but got roundly beaten, used and dumped by those you claim to export to. The world's most popular MRAPs are, Maxxpro( USA), Cougar (USA), Bushmaster (Australia), BMC(Turkey), CS/VP3 (China). These are the world's most widely known MRAPs, yet South-Africa is supposed to be an MRAP design leader..... LOL!! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:53pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
lezz: These South-Africans are downright delusional. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:56pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Henry120: Cougar (South African design) However your choice is subjective. SOUTH AFRICA IS HOWEVER UNDOUBTEDLY THE LEADER OF MRAPS IN THE WORLD. WE INTRODUCED THOSE VEHICLES IN THE WORLD AND HENCE WE LEAD THE WHOLE WORLD INCLUDING AMERICA. WE SCHOOLED AMERICA, AUSTRALIA AND CHINA THE TECHNICAL KNOW HOW OF DESIGNING AND MANUFACTURING MRAPS. CURRENTLY THE SPRINGBOK COMPANY IS TEACHING NIGERIANS THE A-TO-Z OF DESIGNING AND MANUFACTURING OF MRAPS. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:59pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Henry120:Based on what vehicles are all those MRAPs designed? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:08pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
jln115: The fvck? ........They are based on the various companies extensive design and testings. They are not based on South-African MRAPs. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:09pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Henry120:Actually if a MRAP has a V shaped hull then its essentially based on the Caspir. 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:18pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Henry120: All are based on the knowledge obtained from SA design and touch. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:28pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
THERE IS NO ANY WAR TODAY THAT CAN EVER BE AND THERE IS NO PROUDLY MADE IN SOUTH AFRICA EQUIPMENTS WHICH ARE INVOLVED. ALMOST ALL MODERN WAR WE HAD ONE OR EVEN MORE SA MADE EQUIPMENTS OR WEAPONS INVOLVED. EVEN IN BOKO HARAM WAR THERE HAD BEEN PROUDLY MADE SA WEAPONS INVOLVED. |
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