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Re: The NBA Begins by will007: 12:02pm On Jul 01, 2015
Who is the better fit for lakers?...deandre or lamarcus aldrigde
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:50pm On Jul 01, 2015
Leonard extends for 5 years and 90m

Jimmy Butler extends with the Bulls for 5 years and 90m

Tiago Splitter moves to the Hawks

All in a very live first day of free agency

Roland17:

Rudy Gay is sort of a selfish player, fights for himself and his shots alone, despite his experience in the league he does not make his team mates better, no team can succeed with that sort of player granted he is a legit shooter, they also lack a genuine PG.
Ben Mac is not a true point guard, again a show man interested in his own game, a lot of inexperience with team play and jacks up too many shots that hit misses than the bucket.
Derrick Williams is not exactly the most talented player either, he has got good body size and reach but has somehow found a way to remain deficient during plays, he has not improved any aspect of his game, someone needs to remind him he is not getting any younger.
Darren Collison: I love Darren, he is fearless and can be a good defender on the night, but lacks the help from team mates to control the pace of the game from his position, he is not a leader on the court despite his experience thus boogie has nothing to learn from him.
Nick Stauskas just got integrated into the team last season after being drafter from Michigan two or three seasons ago, a terrific jump shooter especially from downtown, I wondered why it took so long to get him into the first team considering their deficiencies, he is still pretty young, he also needs help from an experienced head, he is not going to get at from Rudy Gay as Rudy could care less.
The rest are Andre Miller, Reggie Evans etal, so no wonders as to why they are horrible to me
Of course there is some talent deficit but people are really not giving enough effort going by their record. They are losing 55+ games every year which is too bad. The truth is a lot of guys are quitting on the team on a nightly basis and even Cousins is guilty of that too
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They kind of remind me of Don Nelson's Warriors back in the day

Roland17:

Boogie is more talent than Anthony Davies in the Center position if you ask me, but Davies has better prospects as he NBA ready and can play multiple positions, even with Kobe, Boogie might not learn much, Boogie needs a Garnett, a Shaquille and shake the dream; players who understand what size means and how to dominate with size inside the paint, Boogie does not lack the moves or heart, he is fearless but he just needs that consistent person that can help channel his emotions and energy on the court every night.
I would bleed with disappointment if Boogie is allowed to phase out of reckon because no one took him under arms, everyone is watching and knows exactly what this kid is lacking but no one is stepping up, he needs mentorship desperately, I love his game when his head is on the court, he is unstoppable.
I wouldn't say more talented than Monobrow. Monobrow is far better on defense and maybe even more talented on offense, plus he applies himself better and is self-motivated

The worry with Boogie is he has spent maybe too much time in a losing environment and it remains to be seen how much he can sacrifice to be a better defender

will007:
Who is the better fit for lakers?...deandre or lamarcus aldrigde
I think till the Lakers get a very good PG they shouldn't go anywhere near DeAndre, he doesn't have any offensive game and relies mainly on putbacks and lob passes alley oops to score points

LaMarcus is the cooler head a skilled veteran and decent rebounder of the ball. However he is already 30 that's the only drawback. 23 pts and 10 rebounds

Anyway #LAtoLA is trending seriously

Boogie would have been a younger version of Aldridge but his maturity is a big question mark

Otherwise Boogie at Center might have been the best fit
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:01am On Jul 02, 2015
A40:


Of course there is some talent deficit but people are really not giving enough effort going by their record. They are losing 55+ games every year which is too bad. The truth is a lot of guys are quitting on the team on a nightly basis and even Cousins is guilty of that too
.
They kind of remind me of Don Nelson's Warriors back in the day


I wouldn't say more talented than Monobrow. Monobrow is far better on defense and maybe even more talented on offense, plus he applies himself better and is self-motivated

The worry with Boogie is he has spent maybe too much time in a losing environment and it remains to be seen how much he can sacrifice to be a better defender

For the sake of argument i might concede Uni-brow is a better defender than Boogie but certainly not on offense, i am very specific about the Center position that is why i stated earlier that Davies is a better NBA prospect because he is better adapted to the needs of today's league, he has a very decent wing span which he uses effectively and offensively can play different positions but if we are to argue which is the better Center without the extra needs of the Modern NBA i would definitely pick Boogie, i have watched Boogie carefully even before draft night and this kid has got moves under the rim and is aggressive too, he only needs to channel his emotions and yes he has been playing with losers which includes him in some nights.

Boys are not smiling oooo, getting paid left and right..

Welcome to Amir Johnson #Celtics

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Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 8:06am On Jul 02, 2015
will007:
Who is the better fit for lakers?...deandre or lamarcus aldrigde
Aldrige is going to the spurs
I read on twitter he didn't enjoy the lakers pitch.
I was hoping the spurs would be weaker this season.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:52pm On Jul 02, 2015
Thanks to the Derrick Rose rule Anthony Davis is going to be the highest paid player in the league after signing the biggest contract in league with $145m for 5 years

Kevin Love 5 year $110m

Paul Pierce heading to the Clippers 3 years $10.7m (which is curious cause he will be 38 soon)

Tyson Chandler moves to the Suns 4 years $52m

Tristan Thompson 5 years $80m

Iman Shumpert 4 years $40m

Danny Green 4 years $45m

Draymond Green 5 years $82m

Paul Milsap 3 years $59m

Demare Carroll 4 years $60m

Chimoo if I born pikin and he talk say he no wan play sport lasan
Roland17:


For the sake of argument i might concede Uni-brow is a better defender than Boogie but certainly not on offense, i am very specific about the Center position that is why i stated earlier that Davies is a better NBA prospect because he is better adapted to the needs of today's league, he has a very decent wing span which he uses effectively and offensively can play different positions but if we are to argue which is the better Center without the extra needs of the Modern NBA i would definitely pick Boogie, i have watched Boogie carefully even before draft night and this kid has got moves under the rim and is aggressive too, he only needs to channel his emotions and yes he has been playing with losers which includes him in some nights.

Boys are not smiling oooo, getting paid left and right..

Welcome to Amir Johnson #Celtics
Haha how is Davis not better on offense? He is an excellent free throw shooter, possesses a dizzying array of moves and is insanely efficient not forgetting his soft touch and playmaking skills. If I had to choose who I want to build my franchise around then choosing Anthony Davis is a no-brainer over Cousins not just of their personalities but based on actual basketball skills

Davis is too skinny to play Center if not for the death of the post game. He is like 215-225 at most while Cousins would be at least 265! The disparity is too much and I don't think any coach in their right minds would play Davis at Center for a significant amount of time. I see him as a Power Forward who occasionally plays Center
Re: The NBA Begins by kliq(m): 1:20pm On Jul 02, 2015
A40:
Thanks to the Derrick Rose rule Anthony Davis is going to be the highest paid player in the league after signing the biggest contract in league with $145m for 5 years

Kevin Love 5 year $110m

Paul Pierce heading to the Clippers 3 years $10.7m (which is curious cause he will be 38 soon)

Tyson Chandler moves to the Suns 4 years $52m

Tristan Thompson 5 years $80m

Iman Shumpert 4 years $40m

Danny Green 4 years $45m

Draymond Green 5 years $82m

Paul Milsap 3 years $59m

Demare Carroll 4 years $60m

Chimoo if I born pikin and he talk say he no wan play sport lasan


cheesy that's where the money is cool

Thanks for the update,keep it coming
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 1:34pm On Jul 02, 2015
A40:
Thanks to the Derrick Rose rule Anthony Davis is going to be the highest paid player in the league after signing the biggest contract in league with $145m for 5 years

Kevin Love 5 year $110m

Paul Pierce heading to the Clippers 3 years $10.7m (which is curious cause he will be 38 soon)

Tyson Chandler moves to the Suns 4 years $52m

Tristan Thompson 5 years $80m

Iman Shumpert 4 years $40m

Danny Green 4 years $45m

Draymond Green 5 years $82m

Paul Milsap 3 years $59m

Demare Carroll 4 years $60m
the spurs have done it again convincing danny green to take less money he could've gotten a better deal elsewhere.
Am waiting to see what will happen with J.R smith.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 5:30pm On Jul 02, 2015
A40:

Haha how is Davis not better on offense? He is an excellent free throw shooter, possesses a dizzying array of moves and is insanely efficient not forgetting his soft touch and playmaking skills. If I had to choose who I want to build my franchise around then choosing Anthony Davis is a no-brainer over Cousins not just of their personalities but based on actual basketball skills

Davis is too skinny to play Center if not for the death of the post game. He is like 215-225 at most while Cousins would be at least 265! The disparity is too much and I don't think any coach in their right minds would play Davis at Center for a significant amount of time. I see him as a Power Forward who occasionally plays Center

Davies is one of the premier weak side defender in the center position and despite his body frame which he alluded to trying to improve he has stood up to some of the toughest players in the league, I quite agree with you when u say he would function better as a power forward especially if his quest to increase size fails but for the center position I mean without the added condiments of the modern NBA which Davies posses I would take Cousins.

Boogie has far better foot works under the rim, his post moves are tough and he attacks the rim with Vernom, if you ask me compared to Davies, he is also an above average free throw shooter, he is not scared of the freethrow lane

Boogie has the power in size and strength, it's almost impossible to pull him down, his defense is lazy and I think that has a lot to do with the team he plays for, he makes no effort and gets into a lot of foul trouble.

My brother as for these men getting paid, I thank God say I dey country when appreciate youth sports, by fire by force dem must play college sports (soccer, American football, baseball and basketball) dem must pick one ooooo..no time.. She as small small children dey count millions, some dey even form shakara for teams sef..
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 7:04pm On Jul 02, 2015
Monta Ellis to Pacers

Will the likes of Ellis and Paul George give Cavaliers a run in the east next season?
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:49pm On Jul 02, 2015
They still need to fix their Point guard and Roy Hibbert size problem plus try to keep one or both of Luis Scola and David West. They are not in the clear just yet.

Roland17:


Davies is one of the premier weak side defender in the center position and despite his body frame which he alluded to trying to improve he has stood up to some of the toughest players in the league, I quite agree with you when u say he would function better as a power forward especially if his quest to increase size fails but for the center position I mean without the added condiments of the modern NBA which Davies posses I would take Cousins.
You and I know a Center is a dying position in the league. We just saw it at the last three NBA Finals with teams giving traditional centers limited roles. Davis is the better all-round player and its not even close

Roland17:

Boogie has far better foot works under the rim, his post moves are tough and he attacks the rim with Vernom, if you ask me compared to Davies, he is also an above average free throw shooter, he is not scared of the freethrow lane

Boogie has the power in size and strength, it's almost impossible to pull him down, his defense is lazy and I think that has a lot to do with the team he plays for, he makes no effort and gets into a lot of foul trouble.
Davis is the better free-throw shooter and while Boogie has the size to bang in the paint, Davis still has a better field goal percentage. Davis has a higher elevation and finishes with more finesse, Boogie has moves but they are not highlight reel stuff like Davis

All Davis needs is a consistent perimeter guy that can reduce the scoring burden on him and the Pelicans would definitely be a team to watch. I'm keen on seeing what Alvin Gentry can do with that team. Jrue Holiday, Tyreke and Eric Gordon are not playing to potential (personally I think they should trade Eric Gordon)


Roland17:

My brother as for these men getting paid, I thank God say I dey country when appreciate youth sports, by fire by force dem must play college sports (soccer, American football, baseball and basketball) dem must pick one ooooo..no time.. She as small small children dey count millions, some dey even form shakara for teams sef..
They must pick oo! Any sport apart from UFC. And I'd be their agent
Re: The NBA Begins by will007: 11:11pm On Jul 02, 2015
SIRcumalot:

Aldrige is going to the spurs
I read on twitter he didn't enjoy the lakers pitch.
I was hoping the spurs would be weaker this season.
Aldrige will make a nice addition for Spurs by complementing duncan. But read it somewhere that there will be a second meeting with lakers
Re: The NBA Begins by will007: 11:14pm On Jul 02, 2015
Who would have thought that rajon rondo will still be in dallas at the moment with the way teams keep cashing in on players and players are signing bogus deals
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 3:21am On Jul 03, 2015
Decale:
Monta Ellis to Pacers

Will the likes of Ellis and Paul George give Cavaliers a run in the east next season?

Miami is the 2nd strongest on paper right now they should be able to grab the 2nd seed and make the ECF with that squad.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:32am On Jul 03, 2015
will007:
Who would have thought that rajon rondo will still be in dallas at the moment with the way teams keep cashing in on players and players are signing bogus deals

I am worried about the Mavs, The Dallas Mavericks need a miracle in the West as they are gradually losing relevance, T.Chandler, Monta Elis, Aminu have all gone, Cuban has to make pragmatic decisions with regards to the roaster, I doubt you can convince anyone to come to Dallas by selling an aged Dirk as an incentive. many teams are indifferent about this year's free agency, waiting for next year's class which is more talented.

I believe Rondo would sign with a team in the West for a year to prove he is still a premier PG and then wait to get the big money afterwards, there are talks about the Kings wanting to speak with him, I am watching carefully to know how he handles this situation.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:36am On Jul 03, 2015
Decale:
Monta Ellis to Pacers

Will the likes of Ellis and Paul George give Cavaliers a run in the east next season?


How about D. West walking out on the Pacers and L. Bird for throwing R. Hibbert under the bus after a horrible season last year, you can only hope George comes back very strong and Hibbert gets his groove back, no doubt they are building something strong over in Indiana.
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 11:26am On Jul 03, 2015
Roland17:


How about D. West walking out on the Pacers and L. Bird for throwing R. Hibbert under the bus after a horrible season last year, you can only hope George comes back very strong and Hibbert gets his groove back, no doubt they are building something strong over in Indiana.
What about Miami ?
I don't like pat Riley very well but that Man knows what he is doing, can't say the same for Phil jackson at this point it is like nobody wants to play for the knicks.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 9:37pm On Jul 03, 2015
Breaking news: The Dallas Mavericks have agreed on a Four year deal with free agent D. Jordan of the Clippers for $80 million..

Suddenly it's looking likely the Mavs would decide to keep my boy Rondo grin, I hope Rick Carlisle doesn't eat his words grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:29am On Jul 04, 2015
Roland17:
Breaking news: The Dallas Mavericks have agreed on a Four year deal with free agent D. Jordan of the Clippers for $80 million..
Suddenly it's looking likely the Mavs would decide to keep my boy Rondo grin, I hope Rick Carlisle doesn't eat his words grin
Phuck Rondo, Get Eric Bledsoe.

DeAndre and Wesley Matthews actually. I think its an upgrade in both positions. Matthews is a good 3 pt
shooter, very good on the ball defender

DeAndre well we don't need to talk too much about him, aside from being waaay younger and far more athletic the rebounding improves by 100%'of course the free throw shooting is an issue so there is serious work to be done there

Roland17:

How about D. West walking out on the Pacers and L. Bird for throwing R. Hibbert under the bus after a horrible season last year, you can only hope George comes back very strong and Hibbert gets his groove back, no doubt they are building something strong over in Indiana.
That was classless from Bird and the Pacers putting Hibbert on blast like that. Look at how the Warriors handled Lee and Bogut, I don't blame West for his decision. It could be him tomorrow
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:58am On Jul 04, 2015
Rondo to the Kings
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 2:55am On Jul 04, 2015
who will throws lobs for DJ at dallas ?
the clippers took a huge step back with this loss
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:22am On Jul 04, 2015
A40:

Phuck Rondo, Get Eric Bledsoe.

DeAndre and Wesley Matthews actually. I think its an upgrade in both positions. Matthews is a good 3 pt
shooter, very good on the ball defender

Honestly I don't know if I am impressed by this trade, is this necessarily an upgrade offensively? Are the Mavs going to build their offense around Jordan?

Who is the "go to" player on this roaster offensively? It's definitely not Parsons, he is way too inconsistent and relies heavily on perimeter shots, not Mathews either cos he is not efficient either and please don't try to convince me its Dirk. So is it Jordan?

If I am to analyze this trade, I thinks it's more about a satisfied Jordan getting paid the max contract the Clippers refused to offer and not some garbage talk about being an integral part of an offense.

Bledsoe would not be living the Suns anytime soon bro, the Suns traded Isaiah Thomas to us ( The Celtics) to create cap space for Bledsoe, the market is pretty shallow with point guards, in fact there is none available, except the Mavs are planning for next year's class of free agents which is better talented than this year's.

This is pretty hard to see as a positive, your post sounded troubled, it had pessimism reeled around it.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 4:37am On Jul 04, 2015
Roland17:


Honestly I don't know if I am impressed by this trade, is this necessarily an upgrade offensively? Are the Mavs going to build their offense around Jordan?

Who is the "go to" player on this roaster offensively? It's definitely not Parsons, he is way too inconsistent and relies heavily on perimeter shots, not Mathews either cos he is not efficient either and please don't try to convince me its Dirk. So is it Jordan?

If I am to analyze this trade, I thinks it's more about a satisfied Jordan getting paid the max contract the Clippers refused to offer and not some garbage talk about being an integral part of an offense.

Bledsoe would not be living the Suns anytime soon bro, the Suns traded Isaiah Thomas to us ( The Celtics) to create cap space for Bledsoe, the market is pretty shallow with point guards, in fact there is none available, except the Mavs are planning for next year's class of free agents which is better talented than this year's.

This is pretty hard to see as a positive, your post sounded troubled, it had pessimism reeled around it.
clippers offered jordan the max offer i believe, 105 for five years and he turned it down, he has rifts with cp3, i think thats why he left, and he didnt want to be the third wheel. He went to school in texas, but i guess we w ont know how good of a sign this is till next year or next two years.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:31am On Jul 04, 2015
Roland17:


Honestly I don't know if I am impressed by this trade, is this necessarily an upgrade offensively? Are the Mavs going to build their offense around Jordan?

Who is the "go to" player on this roaster offensively? It's definitely not Parsons, he is way too inconsistent and relies heavily on perimeter shots, not Mathews either cos he is not efficient either and please don't try to convince me its Dirk. So is it Jordan?
Offense has never been the Mavs problem its always been defense so from a defensive standpoint this is a serious upgrade. DeAndre is a well-known rim protector and alters shots plus he is never injured
Monta is 30 and his style of play likely means he won't age well, and while there are question marks with Matthews achilles injury he at least doesn't rely so much on his athleticism and can create his own offense without dominating the ball, shoots the 3 better than Monta and he also adds size at SG which Monta didn't. If he stays healthy Monta won't be missed

I don't think anyone has to be the go to guy. It all boils down to Carlisle finding a system that plays to everyone's strengths and a good way to start is by extending Barea and getting a PG, Felton and Harris won't cut it
Roland17:

I thinks it's more about a satisfied Jordan getting paid the max contract the Clippers refused to offer and not some garbage talk about being an integral part of an offense.
I think the Clippers wanted to pay him but they decided on it too late. I don't think DeAndre is worth the max either but that's modern day basketball for you

Roland17:

Bledsoe would not be living the Suns anytime soon bro, the Suns traded Isaiah Thomas to us ( The Celtics) to create cap space for Bledsoe, the market is pretty shallow with point guards, in fact there is none available, except the Mavs are planning for next year's class of free agents which is better talented than this year's.
The Suns are dumping cap space so they can land Aldridge plus I doubt Bledsoe and Knight can co-exist

Roland17:

This is pretty hard to see as a positive, your post sounded troubled, it had pessimism reeled around it.
Was just being realistic but make no mistake, with these signings things are looking up
Re: The NBA Begins by obviousng(m): 6:43am On Jul 04, 2015
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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:44am On Jul 04, 2015
And yeah while we can agree Doc Rivers is a great coach could it be that he absolutely sucks at being a GM and could perhaps delegate that task to someone else? As it stands the Clips have no cap space even after losing Jordan. This is just terrible cap space management! Not entirely his fault but he has played a significant part in this.

Wonder who they pick McGee? Kaman lol beg Kenyon Martin to come out of retirement lolololol
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 7:03am On Jul 04, 2015
A40:
And yeah while we can agree Doc Rivers is a great coach could it be that he absolutely sucks at being a GM and could perhaps delegate that task to someone else? As it stands the Clips have no cap space even after losing Jordan. This is just terrible cap space management! Not entirely his fault but he has played a significant part in this.

Wonder who they pick McGee? Kaman lol beg Kenyon Martin to come out of retirement lolololol

I concur with your assertion about Doc, the modern day coach wants more responsibilities and control especially as it affects team affairs, I don't blame him though considering the relationship between general managers and coaches in the league has not been smooth, it's like Cold War between both...general managers want to influence the teams directly and most don't include coaches in critical decisions and that affects planning of the roaster and style of play, this is his first attempt at that position, I would cut him some slacks, I think he would get things right in the near future, remember the nucleus of the Clippers roaster from last season was already formed before he left Boston to join the clippers.

There are talks about David lee but like I mentioned earlier, a lot of teams are waiting for next year's class of free agents..
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 7:53am On Jul 04, 2015
A40:
And yeah while we can agree Doc Rivers is a great coach could it be that he absolutely sucks at being a GM and could perhaps delegate that task to someone else? As it stands the Clips have no cap space even after losing Jordan. This is just terrible cap space management! Not entirely his fault but he has played a significant part in this.

Wonder who they pick McGee? Kaman lol beg Kenyon Martin to come out of retirement lolololol
Roy Hibbert ?
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 7:55am On Jul 04, 2015
What's wrong with these two teams: Lakers and Blazers? angry

While one can't even sign a player, the other is busy offloading all their good players (Well except Robin Lopez lol)

Their GMs need to be sacked angry
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:41pm On Jul 04, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Roy Hibbert ?
You feel Hibbert would fashi $15m
Re: The NBA Begins by kliq(m): 5:07pm On Jul 04, 2015
Decale:
What's wrong with these two teams: Lakers and Blazers? angry

While one can't even sign a player, the other is busy offloading all their good players (Well except Robin Lopez lol)

Their GMs need to be sacked angry





No player's interested in joining the Lakers embarassed
Re: The NBA Begins by Mizzzbeee(f): 5:38pm On Jul 04, 2015
kliq:



No player's interested in joining the Lakers embarassed
it's cuz of Kobe cheesy tongue
Re: The NBA Begins by kliq(m): 5:51pm On Jul 04, 2015
Mizzzbeee:
it's cuz of Kobe cheesy tongue

Means they scared to play with a legend undecided inferiority complex grin

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