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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by Nobody: 9:09am On Aug 01, 2015
Its worst being a LITRATE and thinking like an ILLITRATE

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by ravensckar(m): 9:11am On Aug 01, 2015
BimiOne:
NOT ALL NORTHERNERS ARE MUSLIMS PLEASE, I am a Northerner and i detest those practices you mentioned.
Then speak for yourself or shut the f*ck up!


Stop this fallacy of hasty generalisation. Northerners are illiterates period!

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by Nobody: 9:14am On Aug 01, 2015
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by anonimi: 9:20am On Aug 01, 2015
fulanimafia:
OP what you're saying is common knowledge, ask the haters what their kindred were doing in the villages at that time.

This is Sir Ahmadu Bello encouraging girl child western education in the early 60's.

What is the rate of girl child OUT of school in the 19 northern states today, more than 50 years after

Is that progress or regression?

The first step to recovery is acknowledging there is a problem. Self-deceit is the worst injury one can inflict on oneself! angry





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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by Tinyemeka(m): 9:23am On Aug 01, 2015
Believe me, this OP's thread can only but further strengthen the notion of illiteracy prevalent up North. Sorry I said Illiteracy again.

Forget Boko Haram, most Northerners do not appreciate the formal education as we know it, but view it as tradition to send their male children as almajiri and the rest to Islamiya to learn Arabic and the Quran. It's tradition.

How then are those people expected to compete in today's world? I had a secondary school classmate then who was a genius and then some other very brilliant guys. Some Kanuri, some Shuwa. We are all adults now and I still maintain contact with some of them and I tell you (given their potential) I'm disappointed with how they turned out (Father forgive me for being judgemental). The system their just makes them not to see the light. At the end of the day, the only ones who make it, are those who succeeded in politics and a few businessmen (Indimi, Gigiri Gashua, Ibeto, Ali Modu Sheriff, etc). While the rest just trudge along or wait for Sadaka from the rich.
In my opinion, it's that failure to transform knowledge acquired to practical application that is the cause of the problems in the North. Ok, after mastering all the Arabic, what next?

Why is it that most Igbos who reside there turn out to be business leaders but same cannot be said about most Northerners who come down South (remember I didn't say all)?

@OP, Queen Eliza did not look shocked in that pic. To me, she appeared to look fascinated. The same way I'd do when I study microbes under a microscope. No offence.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by gatiano(m): 9:26am On Aug 01, 2015
being educated means that you went to an european mindset school, and european will never let you being an original person wake up to your original state. Thus Black educated simply mean functional illiteracy (to be able to learn off hand without the use of the brain, without a single knowledge of the person you are. I will choose to be always literate with the completely knowledge of who I am and the knowledge of my surroundings and terrain.

SilentPrince:
Being literate is not the issue. Being educated is.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by SkinnyDude(m): 9:31am On Aug 01, 2015
they were just doing COPY AND PASTE.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by SirShymexx: 9:33am On Aug 01, 2015
Tinyemeka:

@OP, Queen Eliza did not look shocked in that pic. To me, she appeared to look fascinated. The same way I'd do when I study microbes under a microscope. No offence.

Well, being fascinated actually captured it better than shocked cos to be held spellbound is a great look. The Hausas (not the whole Northern Nigeria) have always been literate from probably the 15th/16th century and I believe they have tons of written documents dating back to that period, as part of Songha empire, with other cultures across West Africa.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by engrjacuzzi: 9:34am On Aug 01, 2015
it was a big error giving the north power.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by Awoofawo(m): 9:36am On Aug 01, 2015
samkevie:
aw does writing in Arabic relate to being literate,Aboki shoe maker nor sabi read Arabic

Do you folks here realise that the first UNIVERSITY in the world was based on ARABIC SCRIPT and existed in Africa.

The problem with the north is mis-application of Knowledge, trying to be more arab than the arab.

If you raed well nd widely about Africn History, you discover that as far back as 16 century some Ghanan were already in europe studing there and some rose to become outstanding in their chosen fields; but the european will never ackwonledge them (there are allegations that some of the well known european philosophies and laws were of African origin). Think about this...............

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by fulanimafia: 9:38am On Aug 01, 2015
anonimi:


What is the rate of girl child OUT of school in the 19 northern states today, more than 50 years after

Is that progress or regression?

The first step to recovery is acknowledging there is a problem. Self-deceit is the worst injury one can inflict on oneself! angry
[img]http://girlsglobe.files./2013/08/child-not-bride-nigeria-info-photo-courtesy-budgit.jpg[/img]

You will not derail this thread.

The fact is established that Northerners have been literate and educated since before the arrival of the colonialists, and girl child education has been encouraged since the 60's contrary to the common belief held by southerners.

If you want to discuss the statistics and metrics of the failure/success of government educational policies across both military and civilian administrations, you are at liberty to create a thread for that.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by bilal4riid(m): 9:38am On Aug 01, 2015
SilentPrince:


What are you saying? Being literate is being able to read. Anyone can read. What matters is the ability to understand and apply knowledge. If the Northerners were educated they would know that having Sharia Courts, Suicidal tendencies, female genital mutilation, preventing kids from going to school etc are terrible ideas and should not be encouraged. But no, despite being able to read and write they fail to be educated.

Northerners has been gaining prior to independent, their advantage of being literate, that is the brain behind ruling the country and doing well which the southern counterparts refused to understand Nothing like "born to rule " bt being knowledgeable and ability to lead, From Tafawa Balewa, sir Sardauna, Murtala, Gowon, and Sai Buhari the incorruptible.
It's on record that the white has embraced north cos they met them learned and with organised system.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by abdulkayus(m): 9:40am On Aug 01, 2015
freecocoa:
Reading/writing Arabic is what you call literate, mschew.


so it is only reading and writing in English that make one to be literate?
freecocoa, u disappoint me.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by Deepsky(m): 9:40am On Aug 01, 2015
Baabaass [In ZEBULUDAYA OKOLOIGWE NWAOGBO alias 4:30 voice] you and ur ppl are illiterates from Adam.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by fulanimafia: 9:41am On Aug 01, 2015
SirShymexx:


Well, being fascinated actually captured it better than shocked cos to be held spellbound is a great look. The Hausas (not the whole Northern Nigeria) have always been literate from probably the 15th/16th century and I believe they have tons of written documents dating back to that period, as part of Songha empire, with other cultures across West Africa.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by todayguest(m): 9:41am On Aug 01, 2015
abdulaz:
Most of what we now call western education were also taught through the Arabic language then, since we only consider education through the English language as the only form of western education, mind you, the crusaders that first went to the Arab world also learnt a lot from the Arabs.
I am 100% sure that most you don't know that what you know as surgery today all started from the Arab world and the tools used in this field today were all modification if the ones the westerners copied from the Arab world.
there's a great difference between the Arab world, then, and now compared to what we have today in the north. The Arabs, being the foundation of Islam ventured into other fields of discipline. One can't say much of northern muslims(majority) whose first and only priority is Islamic education.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by freecocoa(f): 9:43am On Aug 01, 2015
abdulkayus:



so it is only reading and writing in English that make one to be literate?
freecocoa, u disappoint me.
I wonder where I said that, it's not my fault you concluded that, I should be the disappointed one.

How can you say a person who only study the Koran in Arabic is literate? How does that make sense?
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by fulanimafia: 9:44am On Aug 01, 2015
A product of early Northern education.

The inventor, Jelani Aliyu.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by bilal4riid(m): 9:48am On Aug 01, 2015
myproperty:
I hope the op knows the meaning of being literate. A juju priest is literate in the act of vodoo. As it was in the north, so was it in every race and tribes in Nigeria and the world at large. They had an indigenous way of writing and reading.
But what you show us is not indigenous but an Arabic writing which came as a result of Islamic conquest.
If you need to tell us you are educated, you don't need to behave like the proverbial lizard that jumbs down from a height and starts praising itself. People would see it in you and you would exhibit it. The Hausa Fulani is far behind educationally in Nigeria

To know how to read and write can never be undermined (communication) Arabic, English french are all languages, esp at the time of colonial rule, it shows how organised ppl are, and appropriate channels of order exist
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by Deepsky(m): 9:50am On Aug 01, 2015
@bilal4raiid
The whites always prefer the weakspot so they can easily manipulate that's the reason y they chose the north
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by abdulkayus(m): 9:51am On Aug 01, 2015
freecocoa:
I wonder where I said that, it's not my fault you concluded that, I should be the disappointed one.

How can you say a person who only study the Koran in Arabic is literate? How does that make sense?

freecocoa, check what u initially wrote before this. What u are trying to say then was that reading and writing in arabic does not qualify someone to be literate.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by Aseneshii: 9:55am On Aug 01, 2015
Female genital mutilation is in South not North, I challenge you to name one community in the north that practise it? And what is wrong with sharia? If you are educated as you claim to be you will not have problem with sharia.
SilentPrince:


What are you saying? Being literate is being able to read. Anyone can read. What matters is the ability to understand and apply knowledge. If the Northerners were educated they would know that having Sharia Courts, Suicidal tendencies, female genital mutilation, preventing kids from going to school etc are terrible ideas and should not be encouraged. But no, despite being able to read and write they fail to be educated.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by freecocoa(f): 9:55am On Aug 01, 2015
abdulkayus:


freecocoa, check what u initially wrote before this. What u are trying to say then was that reading and writing in arabic does not qualify someone to be literate.
I know what I wrote and I reiterated that in my first reply you.

No, reading and writing only Arabic, which is as a result of religious inclination, does not make one literate.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by just2endowed: 9:56am On Aug 01, 2015
The system that Nigeria run since independent till today, benefit the northern Nigeria : federal character principle, quota system, revenue sharing formula, all. That's why in Senate and national assembly they are half of the electorate.

Since the system above favour the north, in education they are low but they will keep occupying key position.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by bilal4riid(m): 10:10am On Aug 01, 2015
Deepsky:
@bilal4radii
The whites always prefer the weakspot so they can easily manipulate

Bt we realized the benefits of that, e.g dominating and providing good leadership to the country.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by limamintruth: 10:12am On Aug 01, 2015
abdulaz:
Most of what we now call western education were also taught through the Arabic language then, since we only consider education through the English language as the only form of western education, mind you, the crusaders that first went to the Arab world also learnt a lot from the Arabs.
I am 100% sure that most you don't know that what you know as surgery today all started from the Arab world and the tools used in this field today were all modification if the ones the westerners copied from the Arab world.


You talk as if northerners are arabs themselves. The same way the europeans brought their lifestyle and belief to us is the same way the ancient arabs and their puppets brought in arab traditions to the entity now called nigeria(precisely northern nigeria).

Almajiris are fluent in reading and writing arabic, but same people cannot be categorized as educated. Or why do you think they(these almajiris) can hardly think for themselves and are easily manipulated/brainwashed by their mallams
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by bilal4riid(m): 10:18am On Aug 01, 2015
Deepsky:
@bilal4radii
The whites always prefer the weakspot so they can easily manipulate

The north never been weak compare to south, prior to colonial rule, in the north,there was rules and regulations, leadership, security, courts the system is relatively well then because of the Islamic dwelling b4 the western.

As a result north dominate and provide good leadership to the country.
Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by grandstar(m): 10:18am On Aug 01, 2015
SilentPrince:


What are you saying? Being literate is being able to read. Anyone can read. What matters is the ability to understand and apply knowledge. If the Northerners were educated they would know that having Sharia Courts, Suicidal tendencies, female genital mutilation, preventing kids from going to school etc are terrible ideas and should not be encouraged. But no, despite being able to read and write they fail to be educated.

Its in the South that female circumcision is prevalent. I don't think Hausa's, Kanuri's or Fulani's practice it.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by fulanimafia: 10:19am On Aug 01, 2015
Deepsky:
@bilal4raiid
The whites always prefer the weakspot so they can easily manipulate that's the reason y they chose the north

Help yourself. Read the first sentence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igboland

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by parisbookaddict(f): 10:22am On Aug 01, 2015
SaniSANOH:
NORTHERNER ARE LITRATE RIGHT EVEN BEFORE THE ADVENT OF THE BRITISH
Yet, you called them names.


They called us ILLITRATES, little did they know that we were LITRATE even the Advent of the European to the the country ( NIGERIA.)

SEE picture of QUEEN ELIZABETH shocked and surprise with how Northern are READING and WRITING in Kano. Years before independent.

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Source:
https://sanisanohblog./2015/07/31/northerner-are-litrate-right-even-before-the-advent-of-the-british/?preview=true

Mr muslim, firstly it is "literate" and NOT litrate. You can't even spell this common word and u are here singing northern(muslims) have been literate for ages.
[size=13pt]Secondly she was neither shocked nor surprised. [/size]

Northern Muslims have recited the quran for hundreds of years and that is what the children in the picture were doing. They were being indoctrinated and not learning anything helpful.

Mind u they were reciting the arabic in 7th century classical arabic (like u muslims still do today) which is very very DIFFERENT from 19th(when the pic was taken), 20th, 21st century etc arabic. They recite the fallacies in the quran without knowing the meaning.

So calm down with ur conjecture.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by fulanimafia: 10:24am On Aug 01, 2015
bilal4riid:


The north never been weak compare to south, prior to colonial rule, in the north,there was rules and regulations, leadership, security, courts the system is relatively well then because of the Islamic dwelling b4 the western.

As a result north dominate and provide good leadership to the country.

The SW actually didn't have any problems with the British colonial rule, it was the Easterners that had not developed any established form of government or administration that gave the British headaches.

It is a fact that the British had to introduce the monarchy system by introducing the concept of Eze's. Even in their local parlance, they confirm they don't have any administrative systems (Igbo amu Eze or something like that).

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Re: Queen Elizabeth Shocked And Surprised With Northern Nigeria (photos) by fulanimafia: 10:30am On Aug 01, 2015
freecocoa:
I know what I wrote and I reiterated that in my first reply you.

No, reading and writing only Arabic, which is as a result of religious inclination, does not make one literate.

You seem to need some education yourself.

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