menesheh:


Am actually the one who is above you, you are still stocked with those crap i abandoned for years. I've be an eckist for 6 years, attending meetings and sasa class in Umuahia(by then they have few meeting centers even here in enugu don't have any), i ve actually been into spiritism for many years, read many magic spell books, spell binding, love rings, Indian and Egyptian bla bla. Promise of riches, touch and follow, in short the truth is that i ve been a good customer of post office and local bureau de change, sending my hard earned dollars, of which most do develop wings and fly within the post offices Arena. The interest i developed about Internet and computing is because my communications with eckankar head office in Minnesota and other spiritual organizations in india.

Those things are crap and don't matter anymore, i left my very close friend monday okolie who is bent on making it through that way and also reaching the highest point of astra travel. I tried convincing him to no avail.

So this is your reasons for telling me that you've graduated above me, because you feel inside your mind that you soul travel and always in contact with eck grand master Klemp; alright. I left those things because, it doesn't work, if you wanna see some of my previous activities, i stay in enugu, my number is 081-606-42576. I became an atheist just some two yrs ago or so, all those journeys compelled me to quit all religions and spiritualism. All those while i was into these, am still a core practicing Judaic, my father was a former Christian(catholic to Christian Sabbath) and later abhor Christian doctrine and diverted to Judaism when i was 10. We grew up as Jews.


Just an advice, apply some reasoning and test to whatever promises those groups offer, evaluate it critically then record your outcome in a book in order to arrive to your personal independent conclusion.

You are lucky you did't run mad, is not very easy to come out of such delusion, and i totally agree with your last paragraph.

But am sure you learnt a lot in your spiritual voyage, care to share if there is indeed any thing real in religion?

Thanks

plaetton:


I am glad that you inadvertently admit that religious beliefs starts in the home.
So, if your home is Hindu, you grow up Hindu and believing in Hindu gods.
Therefore, you are a christard by simple accident of birth, nothing else.

First you didn't reply the one meant for you wth you quoting sth meant for other people.

Calvinism; even if you were born into a demon controlled home.

So we should regard pele a simple accident of birth because he was born by a goal machine of a father?

Wow!
You mean there are such a thing as fake pastors ?

Well then, if there fake pastors, there were also bound to be fake biblical prophets, fake apostles, fake saviours, fake virgin births and of course words of god, fake scriptures and fake gods.

*in a baby's voice* wow because there are fake scientists therefore there are, fake journals, fake professors, fake phenomenons, fake hypothesis, fake laws of physics, fake science histories, doctored certificates.

Man shut da hell up! Even Jesus himself warned of the fake prophets as a sign of the end time.

Lol.
ISNT everyone different in some way ? shouldn't everyone be identified as a different separate individual ?

No I didn't know that before me someone different from my immediate sibling said that! For you to think that is what I meant, dazzles me!

Lol.
This has gone full r.et.ar.d.

So, when exactly did Christianity , the blind irrational and illogical (your words ) reverence to middle east myths and worship of middle east gods become THE AFRICAN NORM ?

Someone actually questioned this and I answered him. Look around for the answer I can't repeat my self.

Lol.
Continuing in the full r.et.ar.d mode, we now invoke the Almighty and equally UBIQUITOUS Devil, the imaginary god's evil twin brother.

Who said the devil is everywhere? You don't even have your facts straight and do you know what the word 'twin' means?

P.S :- I don't worship a god I worship God. Damn are you a sucker 'for not using the right words?'

And you call me a re.....tard over what?! How does christianity threaten you?! Can't you live and let live! YOU DON'T BELIEVE GOD exists. Some other person does htf is that a problem to your life? The faster you realise you HATE God the faster you'll get your priorities straight.

If you won't grow up and learn to stop being profane then you gotta stop quoting me. Not your fault you even sound 15. This is all about winning an argument for you not learning what will either make or mar you mtchw

Re.t.ar.d mode overdrive :

You forgot to add that religion, not being logical, is also not being rational, which means not being sensible, which, translated in modern English, means DUMB.
So, your advice to the op is truly MONUMENTALLY DUMB.



Lol.
This one, I agree 100 %.
Indeed, you can be a pastor of a church, and still be a scientist, albeit, A BAD-Bleep Scientist.
we have some on Nairaland.

If you don't know what bad-ass means then keep crying wolf. Me and some dude dalamane are discussing, keep up with it maybe you'll understand that the world, isn't all about logic.


And oh my world, if something is not logical it is irreverent? Lmfao.

Weah96:


How many Christian pastors have been caught banging the same sex?

According to you, they are false prophets, predicted by the scriptures. End time Things. As if it takes a supernatural power and IQ to protect one's investment.

investment? Whose investment? When Jesus made the statement he had no building he could call a church. Offerings were still taking to the temples

What you consider a prediction or prophecy, I call a useful disclaimer. Example, "No one should add or remove words from this book, ever."

prophesy? Prediction? It was a warning. Further answer below.

You tremble when you see sh.it like that, thinking that a God told someone to write it. All I see is the most basic and cheapest of scams. If I was a wicked person who tells lies for a living, like politicians do, I wouldn't want anyone tampering with my book in the future either.

and if you spoke the truth you'll want it to be tampered with?

And who exactly are you referring to God? Jesus? The apostles? The current christians?

End time false prophets are another convenient disclaimer. When you write a book of lies, you can expect that someone down the road will join you in propagating that lie. The person may not be as careful with their public behavior and just in case they are caught sucking dik in the Walmart bathroom, the book can disown them.

do you even make sense to yourself? How does 'don't be sexually immoral' a lie that correlates with having your dick sucked in public by another man or a woman?

How much do you want to bet that the Quran also has disclaimers? I can bet that no one can add or subtract words from it. I'm willing to bet that "false prophets" or apostates were also anticipated by Jibril and Mohammed.

Your point exactly?







Blah blah blah.

False prophets were not damn what is this one even saying.

Matthew 24:24 ESV / 73
For false christs and false prophets will arise
and perform great signs and wonders, so as to
lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

Matthew 7:15 ESV / 55
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in
sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous
wolves.

Matthew 7:21-23 ESV / 49
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one
who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. On that day many will say to me,
‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and cast out demons in your name, and do
many mighty works in your name?’ And then
will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’


***************************************

You are speaking like there is a meeting where they choose who will become a pastor.

How will any book of lie write a disclaimer about it's preacher? Do you make sense to yourself.

Revelations was what John the beloved was referring to when he asked that no words be added unto 'this book'.

If you don't know, the Bible was not a book written by one man. The disciples don't even know a 'Bible' exists before they died. Joshua called it this book of the law. Where did anybody ever call it 'bible'? Lemme guess you don't know cause your hate websites gave you nothing on that.

The bible books were separate books before they were compiled that is why calling it a 'made-up lie' makes you look like a fool because. Peter actually wrote a book, Mark, Matthew and Luke actually gave their accounts of Jesus, John actually wrote a book on the account of Jesus. Read the last verse of the book of John not Revelations.

disclaimer/dɪsˈkleɪmə/
noun
a statement that denies something, especially responsibility.

Jesus didn't deny anything he just warned the followers not the world mind you, that, false prophets will arise and perform wonders that may deceive even the very elect.
The people asked: "how do we know them". He replied by their fruits you shall know them.
Now am asking you: what are the fruits he was referring to?

You just made the dumbest assertion I've ever read damn learn from your other atheist jare.


And who says a gay pastor is a false pastor? He may simply have a problem and if he is willing then he can ask for help. The thing is a pastor that has his dick sucked by another man and one that has it sucked by another woman are no different and can both be forgiven if they were truly called.

dalaman:



He used an illusion to trick you the same way other magicians do. The greatest magicians on earth like Chris Angel, James Randi and David Copperfield perform illusions greater than the best chief priest or old man in your village can ever perform. They have all stated that it is all tricks and they don't know of any supernatural tricks anywhere. James Randi has a million dollar reward for anybody that can prove the supernatural under a controlled environment.




The bullet can miss the target or the bullet could be a dud bullet that produces only sound but doesn't harm. Armed robbers and cultist use it to intimidate people.

An old village illiterate that charms people is doing what david whatever is doing? Buhahaha

I'm still coming back to the old man thing.

Okay the bullet thing. You have logically explained. Now logically explain this.

So cultist came into this place 'firing into the air', this my dude Ondo man empowered by ayelala(not sure if that is the name) was there. People ran, it was an open area so they watched from afar, we watched from afar. They asked the dude to get up, dude was like: 'what is wrong with this one?' 'Ha ha I said get up!' 'Mtchew' replied the dude. Then the cultist pointed the gun at him and he asked the dude to shoot that gun that if it works he'll go naked. Long story short, cult guy shot, nothing happened, another did nothing happened, they shot into the air it worked, they shot at him again nothing happened, the gun couldn't go off. Then they hailed him and since then they made him their lord juju guy because he didn't want to join them.

And before you ask why cultists were doing in an open space, their rival cult was partying on a side 30 minutes before they arrived.

Esdb3:


An old village illiterate that charms people is doing what david whatever is doing? Buhahaha

I'm still coming back to the old man thing.

Okay the bullet thing. You have logically explained. Now logically explain this.

So cultist came into this place 'firing into the air', this my dude Ondo man empowered by ayelala(not sure if that is the name) was there. People ran, it was an open area so they watched from afar, we watched from afar. They asked the dude to get up, dude was like: 'what is wrong with this one?' 'Ha ha I said get up!' 'Mtchew' replied the dude. Then the cultist pointed the gun at him and he asked the dude to shoot that gun that if it works he'll go naked. Long story short, cult guy shot, nothing happened, another did nothing happened, they shot into the air it worked, they shot at him again nothing happened, the gun couldn't go off. Then they hailed him and since then they made him their lord juju guy because he didn't want to join them.

And before you ask why cultists were doing in an open space, their rival cult was partying on a side 30 minutes before they arrived.

Lol... You ran away and watched from a distance, yet you could hear their conversion? I bet you were watching nollywood movie.
Take it easy with ur lies na.
When people run from danger, they don't stop to watch, they run to safety but u hung around danger zone to listen to their conversation. Bet you have your own charm too Lol

Esdb3:

An old village illiterate that charms people is doing what david whatever is doing? Buhahaha
I'm still coming back to the old man thing.
Okay the bullet thing. You have logically explained. Now logically explain this.
So cultist came into this place 'firing into the air', this my dude Ondo man empowered by ayelala(not sure if that is the name) was there. People ran, it was an open area so they watched from afar, we watched from afar. They asked the dude to get up, dude was like: 'what is wrong with this one?' 'Ha ha I said get up!' 'Mtchew' replied the dude. Then the cultist pointed the gun at him and he asked the dude to shoot that gun that if it works he'll go naked. Long story short, cult guy shot, nothing happened, another did nothing happened, they shot into the air it worked, they shot at him again nothing happened, the gun couldn't go off. Then they hailed him and since then they made him their lord juju guy because he didn't want to join them.
And before you ask why cultists were doing in an open space, their rival cult was partying on a side 30 minutes before they arrived.

You don't even know how to lie. You were running away from danger but somehow you stood close enough to hear their conversation? Tell a better lie please.

dalaman:


You don't even know how to lie. You were running away from danger but somehow you stood close enough to hear their conversation? Tell a better lie please.

Dude open area, cultist converse quietly especially when sm1 is defying them? We woulda ran home if we didn't notice the dude that stayed back. He was a friend to some of us. Notice I called him my dude and the bunch of us there were not kids or freshers or peeps that don't know people. Some of the cult folks were known to some people standing with me.

So logically explain or logically evade. If you can't answer I've got lot things for you to logically explain.

frank317:


Lol... You ran away and watched from a distance, yet you could hear their conversion? I bet you were watching nollywood movie.
Take it easy with ur lies na.
When people run from danger, they don't stop to watch, they run to safety but u hung around danger zone to listen to their conversation. Bet you have your own charm too Lol

Hallelujah you didn't insult this time.

Check for my reply to the dude who made the same claim.

Esdb3:


Dude open area, cultist converse quietly especially when sm1 is defying them? We woulda ran home if we didn't notice the dude that stayed back. He was a friend to some of us. Notice I called him my dude and the bunch of us there were not kids or freshers or peeps that don't know people. Some of the cult folks were known to some people standing with me.

So logically explain or logically evade. If you can't answer I've got lot things for you to logically explain.

I insist that your story doesn't make sense. When you see men with guns in Nigeria you run away without looking back. We all attended universities in Nigeria and have witnessed cult clashes. When cultist come with guns and shot in the air their intention is always to intimidate people and scare them away before executing their plans. There was a day about 3 cult guys from another school came to my school to bring down a guy, after shooting their target, they fired some shots into the air to make way for their escape and every body, I mean every body ran away. Nobody stood back to watch anything. Every body ran away for their dear lives. Your story doesn't make any sense. Firstly cultist operate like armed robbers. They don't like people observing them when they are operating. If you stand to observe them you will be shot at. That is the truth. What you are saying is completely unbelievable. Cult members with guns will not just sit back and allow you watch them operate from a close distance.

Esdb3:


Tell me how rain falls in quick simple illustration. Indulge me and explain.



And I wonder who clicked like.

my thoughts too. Atheist are invading a thread like this where the op expressed shock... If you don't believe in God why not just shut up on this thread instead of still trying to prove your points. To the atheists here... Listen to this.

Your quest for knowledge led you to finding corrupt knowledge and that knowledge is destroying you. That's why you don't have peace despite being an atheist.

You left Christianity because you never had a personal encounter with Jesus. Blame yourself for having a poor reason to join Christianity.

Lastly, God is not a scientist. Stop using your small head to imagine God. You will go crazier...

judeodion:
my thoughts too. Atheist are invading a thread like this where the op expressed shock... If you don't believe in God why not just shut up on this thread instead of still trying to prove your points. To the atheists here... Listen to this.

Your quest for knowledge led you to finding corrupt knowledge and that knowledge is destroying you. That's why you don't have peace despite being an atheist.

You left Christianity because you never had a personal encounter with Jesus. Blame yourself for having a poor reason to join Christianity.

Lastly, God is not a scientist. Stop using your small head to imagine God. You will go crazier...

And who told you that all atheists were once christians. Everyone is born an atheist.

judeodion:
my thoughts too. Atheist are invading a thread like this where the op expressed shock... If you don't believe in God why not just shut up on this thread instead of still trying to prove your points. To the atheists here... Listen to this.

Your quest for knowledge led you to finding corrupt knowledge and that knowledge is destroying you. That's why you don't have peace despite being an atheist.

You left Christianity because you never had a personal encounter with Jesus. Blame yourself for having a poor reason to join Christianity.

Lastly, God is not a scientist. Stop using your small head to imagine God. You will go crazier...

You spoke my next topic. They don't love God yet they turn on christianity.

Some say they want to correct yet they are cool with homosexuals and don't want to correct them. That shows it has nothing to do with their love for humanity it shows a force drives them, a rebellious force they don't know controls them and can't control.

dalaman:


I insist that your story doesn't make sense. When you see men with guns in Nigeria you run away without looking back. We all attended universities in Nigeria and have witnessed cult clashes. When cultist come with guns and shot in the air their intention is always to intimidate people and scare them away before executing their plans. There was a day about 3 cult guys from another school came to my school to bring down a guy, after shooting their target, they fired some shots into the air to make way for their escape and every body, I mean every body ran away. Nobody stood back to watch anything. Every body ran away for their dear lives. Your story doesn't make any sense. Firstly cultist operate like armed robbers. They don't like people observing them when they are operating. If you stand to observe them you will be shot at. That is the truth. What you are saying is completely unbelievable. Cult members with guns will not just sit back and allow you watch them operate from a close distance.

Lol. Logically evade. Good choice. Let's continue.

This same guy got a shoe a new shirt blah blah for a party cleaned the shoe dried it out all were outside. The shirt was out drying the shoe was infront of his room too. He was to leave for a party in the evening. Went out for about 45 minutes, got back and couldn't find the shirt and shoe. He warned, nobody owned up.

He got a stone called edun ara in yoruba, and bought a goat from the landlady. He went to the party wearing something less expensive got back around 9. As reported to him, cause he related to me, people said around 7 the boy was dragged out by thunder with his shirt and shoe on the boy's chest. He picked his shirt and shoe from where they were abandoned. The boy didn't die and he wasn't jailed, thank God. Actually he couldn't be jailed cause they have no proof except the landlady's words of charm which he rubbished.


Logically explain that.

Esdb3:


Lol. Logically evade. Good choice. Let's continue.

This same guy got a shoe a new shirt blah blah for a party cleaned the shoe dried it out all were outside. The shirt was out drying the shoe was infront of his room too. He was to leave for a party in the evening. Went out for about 45 minutes, got back and couldn't find the shirt and shoe. He warned, nobody owned up.

He got a stone called edun ara in yoruba, and bought a goat from the landlady. He went to the party wearing something less expensive got back around 9. As reported to him, cause he related to me, people said around 7 the boy was dragged out by thunder with his shirt and shoe on the boy's chest. He picked his shirt and shoe from where they were abandoned. The boy didn't die and he wasn't jailed, thank God. Actually he couldn't be jailed cause they have no proof except the landlady's words of charm which he rubbished.


Logically explain that.

Please stop telling me to explain away your fiction. What can be asserted without any evidence needs to be discarded without evidence as well.

@op

If the slave traders hadnt brainwashed your ancestors with christianity (or islam) the concept of heaven,hell,bible,spirits and all other hogwash would sound nonsensical to you to say the least.

And for the dullards who say atheists hate "god"...perhaps its you who needs to expand your horizons and realize that there are atheists in europe and asia who have been non religious all their lives and have not suffered the great misfortunate of being force fed normadic goat herder stories about virgins giving birth in mangers or feeding a whole 5,000 people with a measly 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish or men walking on water or men being swallowed whole by fish(or is it whales) without being chewed up nor digested for three whole days. NO! Such people suffer the agony of being forced to PRETEND to believe such nonsense all in a bid to appear "normal" and avoid being ostracized by a brain dead society such as ours. That being said...would you say these people hate "god"?

A year or two ago a lady on this forum commented that she would rather marry a kidnapper,armed robber or ritualist than an atheist....wow! Atheists indeed must be the worst people on earth. The people looting Nigeria's resources,sponsoring militant terrorist groups,raping little girls and married women alike are ALL "god fearing christians and moslems" but atheists are the worst people right? The typical average Nigerian utilizes every opportunity given to them to either oppress or repress others e.g armed forces,govt parastatals etc yer atheists are the greatest problems on earth. A lot of you bible thumping delusionists can NEVER aid a dying relative financially yet you find nothing immoral about giving twenty times the amount that relative needed to church as tithes and offerings.

You hypocrites really make me sick

dalaman:


Please stop telling me to explain away your fiction. What can be asserted without any evidence needs to be discarded without evidence as well.

Fiction? Logically Evade. We'll continue.

This woman sixty years old who had no child and was told by doctors to stop trying(she had hit menopause) came to the Redemption camp, prayed and got pregnant and birth twins.

Logically Explain or Logically Evade?

Yes o, tell them .. they will hold the Bible/Koran, to swear an oath of office, but at the end,they still loot away our money... some pastors favorite moment in the church is the OFFERING time.. the so called religious ones commit more atrocities than the atheists..

harakiri:
@op

If the slave traders hadnt brainwashed your ancestors with christianity (or islam) the concept of heaven,hell,bible,spirits and all other hogwash would sound nonsensical to you to say the least.

And for the dullards who say atheists hate "god"...perhaps its you who needs to expand your horizons and realize that there are atheists in europe and asia who have been non religious all their lives and have not suffered the great misfortunate of being force fed normadic goat herder stories about virgins giving birth in mangers or feeding a whole 5,000 people with a measly 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish or men walking on water or men being swallowed whole by fish(or is it whales) without being chewed up nor digested for three whole days. NO! Such people suffer the agony of being forced to PRETEND to believe such nonsense all in a bid to appear "normal" and avoid being ostracized by a brain dead society such as ours. That being said...would you say these people hate "god"?

A year or two ago a lady on this forum commented that she would rather marry a kidnapper,armed robber or ritualist than an atheist....wow! Atheists indeed must be the worst people on earth. The people looting Nigeria's resources,sponsoring militant terrorist groups,raping little girls and married women alike are ALL "god fearing christians and moslems" but atheists are the worst people right? The typical average Nigerian utilizes every opportunity given to them to either oppress or repress others e.g armed forces,govt parastatals etc yer atheists are the greatest problems on earth. A lot of you bible thumping delusionists can NEVER aid a dying relative financially yet you find nothing immoral about giving twenty times the amount that relative needed to church as tithes and offerings.

You hypocrites really make me sick

timonski:

And who told you that all atheists were once christians. Everyone is born an atheist.

And who told you everyone was born an atheist? Let us not argue. Thanks and Jesus bless you

judeodion:


And who told you everyone was born an atheist? Let us not argue. Thanks and Jesus bless you

you are born an agnostic atheist. It is through indoctrination that you become a christian, muslim etc.

onetrack:


The idea of sin is a man-made concept. I do not believe in sin. I do not believe in god so there is no divine standard.

I set my own standards for behavior based upon what I believe to be good and bad.

That's my point, u can indulge in immorality since ur standard dont view it as wrong. Humans having great stress in combating there desires, will quickly delve into those desires without feeling they ve wrong a Supreme Being.

Many embrace atheism to have moral independence. That is Satan's aim.

JMAN05:


That's my point, u can indulge in immorality since ur standard dont view it as wrong. Humans having great stress in combating there desires, will quickly delve into those desires without feeling they ve wrong a Supreme Being.

Many embrace atheism to have moral independence. That is Satan's aim.

You can indulge in immorality too and just pray for forgiveness, or even worse, find a religious justification for this behavior. Many people have happily killed other people because they believed that it is what their god wanted.

It is an overfloged topic on naira land. They have been defeated. They refused to accept the truth. They know that there is God. They do not want to know that they know. They do not want to believe that they know.
God gave them up to a reprobate mind to say foolish things and behave in an irrational manner.


The fool has said in his heart that there is no God.

Says the Bible.
God2man.

God2man:
It is an overfloged topic on naira land. They have been defeated. They refused to accept the truth. They know that there is God. They do not want to know that they know. They do not want to believe that they know.
God gave them up to a reprobate mind to say foolish things and behave in an irrational manner.


The fool has said in his heart that there is no God.

Says the Bible.
God2man.

"They know that there is god"

*Reads Bible verse that says not believing blindly makes one a fool

onetrack:


You can indulge in immorality too and just pray for forgiveness, or even worse, find a religious justification for this behavior. Many people have happily killed other people because they believed that it is what their god wanted.

Well my God doesn't support that. His standards is not uttered by humans, even if someone twist a scripture to support his behavior, that hasn't changed Gods standards. In short, that one makes his condition worse. It is not all request for forgiveness that God admits. Those who embark on a deliberate sin, thinking that they can always ask for forgiveness is deceiving their minds. 2pet. 2:20-21

So, if I am an atheist, I can freely kill u and ur family without any need for forgiveness. I ll do what I view as right. However, true xtianity doesn't allow for such.

No true xtian engages in immorality and views his actions as good. But many embrace atheism to satisfy there fleshly desires, in short, they become slaves to there desires. That's anything but freedom.

It is not that all atheists truly believe that God does not exist, no, but they want to be authority to themselves, and end up being slaves. Commit immorality non-stop, view porn, rape, etc.

In fact, When u guys grow up, u come to terms with reality. The fact is, not all are really atheists, they just want to satisfy the leadings of the flesh, and gain moral independence.

JMAN05:


Well my God doesn't support that. His standards is not uttered by humans, even if someone twist a scripture to support his behavior, that hasn't changed Gods standards. In short, that one makes his condition worse. It is not all request for forgiveness that God admits. Those who embark on a deliberate sin, thinking that they can always ask for forgiveness is deceiving their minds. 2pet. 2:20-21

Irrelevant to Christians because all you need is faith in Jesus to be forgiven, regardless of what you do or how many times you do it. At least that is standard Protestant belief.

So, if I am an atheist, I can freely kill u and ur family without any need for forgiveness. I ll do what I view as right. However, true xtianity doesn't allow for such.

No true xtian engages in immorality and views his actions as good. But many embrace atheism to satisfy there fleshly desires, in short, they become slaves to there desires. That's anything but freedom.

You forget that atheists experience empathy and compassion and guilt to the same extent that believers do. But, no, we aren't slaves to some cosmic guilt by some inscrutable god. And I guarantee you that my personal life is far more disciplined than that of most Christians, not because I fear punishment but because there are a lot of things I don't really enjoy doing that many Christians consider sinful.

In any case, a 'true' Christian is whatever you decide him to be. I can say that no 'true' atheist would steal.

It is not that all atheists truly believe that God does not exist, no, but they want to be authority to themselves, and end up being slaves. Commit immorality non-stop, view porn, rape, etc.

Lol if only you actually knew any atheists.

In fact, When u guys grow up, u come to terms with reality.

I am more than 40 years old. What now?

onetrack:


Irrelevant to Christians because all you need is faith in Jesus to be forgiven, regardless of what you do or how many times you do it. At least that is standard Protestant belief.

Deliberate selfdeception. Do I expect anything less from an atheist?

You forget that atheists experience empathy and compassion and guilt to the same extent that believers do. But, no, we aren't slaves to some cosmic guilt by some inscrutable god. And I guarantee you that my personal life is far more disciplined than that of most Christians, not because I fear punishment but because there are a lot of things I don't really enjoy doing that many Christians consider sinful.

U are a slave to ur desires, u won't know now. But mark those words. Ur body rules u and u now work with Satan.

- As far as atheism is concerned, there is nothing like far more disciplined. You just do what ur body moves u to do.

- The guilt is based on there religious upbringing. U are not even a true atheist. U xtian upbringing still affect u. But gradually ur satanic mindset will kill the remaining morals.

But now u have ur way to satisfy those wrong desires of ur flesh. There is no doubt u are already a slave to them.

In any case, a 'true' Christian is whatever you decide him to be. I can say that no 'true' atheist would steal.

That's rubbish, atheism has no standard to distinguish right from wrong. Grow up.

Lol if only you actually knew any atheists.

My cousin is. He behaves like a beast. He can kill at the slightest provocation. But he still fears the village deity.

Just tell him u will go to the chief priest to cast a spell on him, he will go begging. That's why I said that not all are atheists. In short MOST nigerian 'atheists' are hypocrites. They shud not be taken serious.

Some are looking for an excuse to indulge in immorality. My cousin view those things as nothing wrong.

I am more than 40 years old. What now?

Lol, grow up in understanding, not age.

My point is: no one should join u profess atheists cos of ur Nairaland argument. Most of u still fear God in ur homes, while coming here to make noise.

I personally don't take atheists seriously, until he agrees to go to a village deity and set it ablaze. I mean a strong deity. I will then take such ones serious as atheists. My cousin can't dare it.

Are u guys not fooling ueselves then? Rubbish! i don't get deceived that way. U guys are hypocrites. Subverting other people's faith when u are not even serious

JMAN05:


My cousin is. He behaves like a beast. He can kill at the slightest provocation. But he still fears the village deity.

Just tell him u will go to the chief priest to cast a spell on him, he will go begging. That's why I said that not all are atheists. In short MOST nigerian 'atheists' are hypocrites. They shud not be taken serious.

Are u guys not fooling ueselves then? Rubbish! i don't get deceived that way. U guys are hypocrites. Subverting other people's faith when u are not even serious

Most of what you wrote is just unsubstantiated claims, misguided accusations, and empty rhetoric.

If your cousin is an atheist, he would not hesitate to challenge the village deity. I have deliberately blasphemed the major deities, including Yahweh, Allah, and traditional gods without any problems.

And, yes, I enjoy subverting people's faith because I think that faith is a harmful quality to have. I don't like seeing people manipulated by various religions and religious figures on the basis of zero evidence. I will continue to do it.

JMAN05:


Deliberate selfdeception. Do I expect anything less from an atheist?



U are a slave to ur desires, u won't know now. But mark those words. Ur body rules u and u now work with Satan.

- As far as atheism is concerned, there is nothing like far more disciplined. You just do what ur body moves u to do.

- The guilt is based on there religious upbringing. U are not even a true atheist. U xtian upbringing still affect u. But gradually ur satanic mindset will kill the remaining morals.

But now u have ur way to satisfy those wrong desires of ur flesh. There is no doubt u are already a slave to them.



That's rubbish, atheism has no standard to distinguish right from wrong. Grow up.



My cousin is. He behaves like a beast. He can kill at the slightest provocation. But he still fears the village deity.

Just tell him u will go to the chief priest to cast a spell on him, he will go begging. That's why I said that not all are atheists. In short MOST nigerian 'atheists' are hypocrites. They shud not be taken serious.

Some are looking for an excuse to indulge in immorality. My cousin view those things as nothing wrong.




Lol, grow up in understanding, not age.

My point is: no one should join u profess atheists cos of ur Nairaland argument. Most of u still fear God in ur homes, while coming here to make noise.

I personally don't take atheists seriously, until he agrees to go to a village deity and set it ablaze. I mean a strong deity. I will then take such ones serious as atheists. My cousin can't dare it.

Are u guys not fooling ueselves then? Rubbish! i don't get deceived that way. U guys are hypocrites. Subverting other people's faith when u are not even serious

Why would an atheist desecrate a shrine to prove a point? Did the atheist erect the shrine?

Why don't you go and ask the native doctor for permission, and then tell you cousin to break it down?

Weah96:


Why would an atheist desecrate a shrine to prove a point? Did the atheist erect the shrine?

Why don't you go and ask the native doctor for permission, and then tell you cousin to break it down?

Haha permission? I thought there was no god there?

onetrack:


Most of what you wrote is just unsubstantiated claims, misguided accusations, and empty rhetoric.

If your cousin is an atheist, he would not hesitate to challenge the village deity. I have deliberately blasphemed the major deities, including Yahweh, Allah, and traditional gods without any problems.

And, yes, I enjoy subverting people's faith because I think that faith is a harmful quality to have. I don't like seeing people manipulated by various religions and religious figures on the basis of zero evidence. I will continue to do it.

Shut shut shut up, go and burn the shrine of known traditional deity. If u survive, then i will believe it when u say nothing supernatural is there. Keep lying to ur head. Atheist for mouth.

I am not telling you about my cousin for u to believe, I know who I am and what i ve seen. I know of a pastor who burned the village deity to liberate his Dad who served the god. No one told him to immediately come and rebuild it. He never slept until he did it. So show ur belief by ur action. Stop deceiving people of what u dont really believe is true.

Do not accept that story if u wish, after all u never saw any. However, I that saw and heard, wont foolishly believe those lies of u guys.

JMAN05:


Shut shut shut up, go and burn the shrine of known traditional deity. If u survive, then i will believe it when u say nothing supernatural is there. Keep lying to ur head. Atheist for mouth.

I am not telling you about my cousin for u to believe, I know who I am and what i ve seen. I know of a pastor who burned the village deity to liberate his Dad who served the god. No one told him to immediately come and rebuild it. He never slept until he did it. So show ur belief by ur action. Stop deceiving people of what u dont really believe is true.

Do not accept that story if u wish, after all u never saw any. However, I that saw and heard, wont foolishly believe those lies of u guys.

Will you keep quite? Do you know the number of African and Nigerian carved deities that were taken away from Africa and Nigeria and
are presently on display in various English museums? Do you know how many shrines, evil forest and local deities were burned by the Europeans when they came to Africa/ Nigeria? Uncountable African Gods/deities are presently laying helplessly in museums in England and other parts of Europe.

JMAN05:


Haha permission? I thought there was no god there?

Is there a God at the local Chevron or supermarket? Why don't you go there and start breaking their stuff?