SonOfEl:


my knowledge about God is through a personal encounter I had with him, an unforgetable experience, but you wouldn't believe me would you?

secondly, God will use former well known atheist scientist by name ANTHONY FLEW, to judge you and your atheistic scientists. his testimony about the evidence of an intelligent design is something I can relate to. the multi complexity accuracy and precision of the human DNA alone with all its functions and capabilities shows our existence was not mere coincidence, it was an intelligent design.

thirdly, matter can not be made from nothing, that would be even against science and logic. even if the big bang theory was true, something brought about the existence of matter that gave rise to gases which explodes and gives a ripple effect, bringing about our milky way galaxy and solar system.

organized religion may have corrupted our knowledge about the true living God, it still does not mean that spirituality is real. God is meant to be worshipped in truth and in spirit, not by creeds and man made dogmas.

our existence on earth has a purpose, we are not products of a cosmic accident. our purpose is to dominate the earth. THIS EARTH is for us to dominate. by dominating, it is our duty to discover, maintain and protect our earth, no other specie can take it from us.

you think God is wasteful, because you don't understand who God is. his ways are not our ways......having a leftover or untouched meal for instance is not a waste, it only indicates abundance or deliberate neglect on our own part... and I know with time, more discoveries about how our system works will clarify these areas. for now, our perceptions about these are still deficient.

LOL anecdotes...typical. I'm afraid that's not alot to go on my friend as people from other religions all claim to have seen their deities and prophets,so who should we trust ? All of these religious bubbles are nothing but delusions.

Second pargraph

Yes of course the earth is intelligently designed but dont forget the birth defects, droughts, tornados, floods, hurricanes, wisdom teeth,a peendix, sickle cell anemia, bone cancer in children, harmful UV rays.

You cant say there's a God because the world's beautiful, you cant just choose the nice bits/ You have to take nature in its totality. Intelligent design is a fallacy.Even if a God did intelligently designed the earth, so what? Which god is it?

Actually I beleive life is the purpose you give it.Take responsibility for your own life.

His ways are not our ways, god works in mysterious ways..lol typical. If someone loses both arms and legs., it's all part of god's plan right? Because in this vast universe god's plan was for you to be disabled. LOL im done

Thoniameek:


Go back and read my post, then read your response

I just Re-Read and I can't possibly figure out the aspect wrong you referring,but you said homicide,homicide universally is crime to humanity in human race,This particular crime don't vary from country to country cus taking another person's life is tantamount to taking of your own life or life imprisonment.
Juxtaposing wrong from country law is alien to one who keep up with morality all day because morality is doing right at all times and law is there to protect the right of every citizen in the land of a given territory.

The bible gave account of god instructing people to killing on his behalf and he's also gonna kill me if I don't worship him,what type of god is that who takes pleasure in killing?

SonOfEl:


suit yourself....he is always available though, just in case you may need him later

Yes I might be needing him later when my sewage is full.

SonOfEl:


I have experienced God. he exists.

Yes,he exist to those whose mind are narrow at that part of their brain that accept religion

lepasharon:


LOL anecdotes...typical. I'm afraid that's not alot to go on my friend as people from other religions all claim to have seen their deities and prophets,so who should we trust ? All of these religious bubbles are nothing but delusions.

Second pargraph

Yes of course the earth is intelligently designed but dont forget the birth defects, droughts, tornados, floods, hurricanes, wisdom teeth,a peendix, sickle cell anemia, bone cancer in children, harmful UV rays.

You cant say there's a God because the world's beautiful, you cant just choose the nice bits/ You have to take nature in its totality. Intelligent design is a fallacy.Even if a God did intelligently designed the earth, so what? Which god is it?

Actually I beleive life is the purpose you give it.Take responsibility for your own life.

His ways are not our ways, god works in mysterious ways..lol typical. If someone loses both arms and legs., it's all part of god's plan right? Because in this vast universe god's plan was for you to be disabled. LOL im done

and you think God is responsible for all those sicknesses and disasters? you are funny. until you understand spirituality, the battles and forces in it, you can never decipher the essence of God.

those without arms and legs glorify God even in their condition. God will use this people's testimony to judge you the 'complete and rational' ones. that's for the record.

I can't prove God to you on your own terms....I have discovered him, you simply haven't. I pray and hope you do someday.

you can't give life your own purpose, you have to discover your purpose in life. you are IN it. life itself isn't fair, and we all are imperfect beings...so you are fundamentally handicapped to give life your own purpose....whether you want to deny it or not, the inspiration to excel above your incapacities is something given you by a higher power that no specie on earth has....denying it is like trying to breathe without inhaling....

aaronson:
Yes I might be needing him later when my sewage is full.

God does not owe you any explanation..... if you don't believe in him, then leave him and his worshippers alone. you are just embarrassing yourself for nothing, cos your rants does not change a thing.

bxcode:
@aaronson, you sound really educated and grounded in your belief and i respect you for that, but before you became an atheist, what did you believe in our were you born an atheist?

Truth is I was into a christian home,Attended lots of churches,pentecostals and catholics,Did all what is required of me as a christian but curiousity got me thus far,I started off by reading anything I could lay my hands on when curiously searching for the truth,Started off with philosophy,the to the sciences(physics,chemistry and biology),then psychology,then Astronomy and geography,then proceeded to studying sociology and anthropology and I'm still studying because study is everyday process.

During the course of study,I discovered foolish men corrupted the world,It started in the pre-enlightenment ere down to the early medieval era but in the late medieval era,the great revolution came by which has placed the first world in their top spot of civilized people,The revolution came with man using his head to think and solve his own problems which actually kick start the industrial revolution and other advancement by the white people who embraced this revolution and now we in the enlightenment/post modernism era,Yet Africa is still stuck in the early medieval era which holds the belief in a god for their existence. Well,there's a lot to be told about religion,race and human existence but people wouldn't keep an open mind instead,they bash you for not believing in what they believe forgetting the fact that universal truth is not measured in mass appeal.

SonOfEl:


God does not owe you any explanation..... if you don't believe in him, then leave him and his worshippers alone. you are just embarrassing yourself for nothing, cos your rants does not change a thing.

All of a sudden,my opinion has turned into rant,well guess what? My opinion is as harmless as mere written words but the meaning you read from it disturbs the illusion you conceive,that's why you consider it irrelevant hence rant.

aaronson:
Truth is I was into a christian home,Attended lots of churches,pentecostals and catholics,Did all what is required of me as a christian but curiousity got me thus far,I started off by reading anything I could lay my hands on when curiously searching for the truth,Started off with philosophy,the to the sciences(physics,chemistry and biology),then psychology,then Astronomy and geography,then proceeded to studying sociology and anthropology and I'm still studying because study is everyday process.

During the course of study,I discovered foolish men corrupted the world,It started in the pre-enlightenment ere down to the early medieval era but in the late medieval era,the great revolution came by which has placed the first world in their top spot of civilized people,The revolution came with man using his head to think and solve his own problems which actually kick start the industrial revolution and other advancement by the white people who embraced this revolution and now we in the enlightenment/post modernism era,Yet Africa is still stuck in the early medieval era which holds the belief in a god for their existence. Well,there's a lot to be told about religion,race and human existence but people wouldn't keep an open mind instead,they bash you for not believing in what they believe forgetting the fact that universal truth is not measured in mass appeal.

Wow. I knew you were once a Christian, are you angry with God in any manner sir probably because of things and so many unanswered question you came across eg why people are misled as you said instead of towing your path?

aaronson:
Truth is I was into a christian home,Attended lots of churches,pentecostals and catholics,Did all what is required of me as a christian but curiousity got me thus far,I started off by reading anything I could lay my hands on when curiously searching for the truth,Started off with philosophy,the to the sciences(physics,chemistry and biology),then psychology,then Astronomy and geography,then proceeded to studying sociology and anthropology and I'm still studying because study is everyday process.

During the course of study,I discovered foolish men corrupted the world,It started in the pre-enlightenment ere down to the early medieval era but in the late medieval era,the great revolution came by which has placed the first world in their top spot of civilized people,The revolution came with man using his head to think and solve his own problems which actually kick start the industrial revolution and other advancement by the white people who embraced this revolution and now we in the enlightenment/post modernism era,Yet Africa is still stuck in the early medieval era which holds the belief in a god for their existence. Well,there's a lot to be told about religion,race and human existence but people wouldn't keep an open mind instead,they bash you for not believing in what they believe forgetting the fact that universal truth is not measured in mass appeal.

your story isn't strange. as a matter of fact, your story is typical of atheists. always thinking they have acquired some kind of knowledge that doesn't need God anymore. you guys keep fulfilling scriptures that said, "knowledge shall increase...." and also, " the love of many shall wax cold". apparently, you have self-esteem issues being an African because Africans are "still stuck in the medieval era"......

I have read all these issues you cited and I see the plan and program of God in all of it. this historical facts even help in authenticating scripture....you may not understand. you tend to read the scriptures by its shallow and seeming contradictory letters, unknown to you it is the spirit that enlighten ones understanding , not cognitive intelligence.

ANTONY FLEW , a former notable atheist have seen it all, and eventually acknowledged God. many other atheists have discovered God and changed their stance. they know all this stories and balderdash you are giving, and have come to know even better.

the guy that asked you a question actually diagnosed you, and I saw your ish... dude you were once religious, but never had an encounter with God.

bxcode:

Wow. I knew you were once a Christian, are you angry with God in any manner sir probably because of things and so many unanswered question you came across eg why people are misled as you said instead of towing your path?

No,Its not possible to get angry with someone you feel is non extent but christians tag us to be angry at god but this is what really happens.

Atheists have learn themselves out of christianity or other religion and once,they get out the matrix,they realize,all their life they have been brain washed with lies and they accepted it because they were ignorant all along,Now, that same ignorance is what atheists frown at in every believer but the believer would conceive it as though we mad at their god,how is it possible to get mad at what you already debunk to be unreal ?

aaronson:
All of a sudden,my opinion has turned into rant,well guess what? My opinion is as harmless as mere written words but the meaning you read from it disturbs the illusion you conceive,that's why you consider it irrelevant hence rant.

who is disturbed here, me or you? your type keep fulfilling the unfortunate and sad parts of bible prophecies, I see scripture being fulfilled everyday before my very eyes, so am not disturbed. you are the actually disturbed and looking for a way to vent it out.

SonOfEl:


your story isn't strange. as a matter of fact, your story is typical of atheists. always thinking they have acquired some kind of knowledge that doesn't need God anymore. you guys keep fulfilling scriptures that said, "knowledge shall increase...." and also, " the love of many shall wax cold". apparently, you have self-esteem issues being an African because Africans are "still stuck in the medieval era"......

I have read all these issues you cited and I see the plan and program of God in all of it. this historical facts even help in authenticating scripture....you may not understand. you tend to read the scriptures by its shallow and seeming contradictory letters, unknown to you it is the spirit that enlighten ones understanding , not cognitive intelligence.

ANTONY FLEW , a former notable atheist have seen it all, and eventually acknowledged God. many other atheists have discovered God and changed their stance. they know all this stories and balderdash you are giving, and have come to know even better.

the guy that asked you a question actually diagnosed you, and I saw your ish... dude you were once religious, but never had an encounter with God.

yaaaaay I'm feeling like a star already,somebody stalking my page and telling me my own story but something else though,I don't sign autograph to Christians for free,they gotta pay me like they pay tithe to their pastor.

SonOfEl:


who is disturbed here, me or you? your type keep fulfilling the unfortunate and sad parts of bible prophecies, I see scripture being fulfilled everyday before my very eyes, so am not disturbed. you are the actually disturbed and looking for a way to vent it out.

Last time I vent was when I read the bible of god magically getting a virgin pregnant to be given birth to him in the name of god the son popularly known as jesus,I so vent because million of people like you believe that fairytales for children of age of 3 to 5.

aaronson:
yaaaaay I'm feeling like a star already,somebody stalking my page and telling me my own story but something else though,I don't sign autograph to Christians for free,they gotta pay me like they pay tithe to their pastor.

stick to the point and stop your childish Rigmaroles. you were once religious, but you have never experienced true spirituality before.

before my very eyes, inexplicable phenomena has manifested, even in my life that science even cannot substantiate and explain. even science as a field of knowlege does not claim to know and answer everything, why? because they simply can't!

you keep living in denial and frustration.....

aaronson:
Last time I vent was when I read the bible of god magically getting a virgin pregnant to be given birth to him in the name of god the son popularly known as jesus,I so vent because million of people like you believe that fairytales for children of age of 3 to 5.

I believe the "fairy tale" because my life experiences have vindicated it. jesus, the power of his name, and the golden rule commandment have proven God in my life.

keep venting to your hurt...I shall keep praying for you anyway....not that you asked me to.

SonOfEl:


stick to the point and stop your childish Rigmaroles. you were once religious, but you have never experienced true spirituality before.

before my very eyes, inexplicable phenomena has manifested, even in my life that science even cannot substantiate and explain. even science as a field of knowlege does not claim to know and answer everything, why? because they simply can't!

you keep living in denial and frustration.....

Okay I wanna prove to the world you never understood the science you claim to have studied,What is the one basic requirement of life and its also a substance which life emanated from?

SonOfEl:


I believe the "fairy tale" because my life experiences have vindicated it. jesus, the power of his name, and the golden rule commandment have proven God in my life.

keep venting to your hurt...I shall keep praying for you anyway....not that you asked me to.

you don't even know the difference between vent and sharing of opinion,then,how is it possible for you to comprehend complex words like god and fairytales?

aaronson:
No,Its not possible to get angry with someone you feel is non extent but christians tag us to be angry at god but this is what really happens.

Atheists have learn themselves out of christianity or other religion and once,they get out the matrix,they realize,all their life they have been brain washed with lies and they accepted it because they were ignorant all along,Now, that same ignorance is what atheists frown at in every believer but the believer would conceive it as though we mad at their god,how is it possible to get mad at what you already debunk to be unreal ?

Let me come from your point of view, since you believe in the non existence of the supreme being who created the universe, does the universe have a beginning that requires a
cause? If so, what was this cause?

aaronson:
Okay I wanna prove to the world you never understood the science you claim to have studied,What is the one basic requirement of life and its also a substance which life emanated from?

I never claimed I knew all things about science so stop trying to play a fast one dude...stick to the point and stop meandering..... you left religion simply because you thought you have known too much....you never had real spirituality, you were just a curious church goer.

aaronson:
you don't even know the difference between vent and sharing of opinion,then,how is it possible for you to comprehend complex words like god and fairytales?

keep dilly dallying.... you have sealed your fate. I pray God redeems you before its too late.

bxcode:

Let me come from your point of view, since you believe in the non existence of the supreme being who created the universe, does the universe have a beginning that requires a
cause? If so, what was this cause?

This question complex to give a definite answer to because as I type this,researches is still on going as regard the cause of life and the formation of the universe. Now,previous researches conducted remains valid until a new finding states otherwise,planet earth is 4.5billion years old and its as a result of a big bang theory and evidence of the bigbang is why you have other planets scattered in space,the moon,sun,stars and other planetary bodies is as a result of the explosion of the bang,the cooling off and formation of different gases,which lead to mixture of random gaseous elements to what we have today as life,but it didn't just start like that,this process took stages until life appeared on earth. Now,one would ask,why didn't life occur in other planet,this is what happened.
This formation of life was best formed on earth under earth suitable atmospheric condition.the appropriate amount of Helium,Nitrogen,oxygen etc is what earth possess to make life come appear in it,other planets don't have such a favourable atmosphere for life to exist but lately planet Mars is been tested if it could habit life but No! Only earth is where life adapt to fit in,once life is moved from earth to any other planet,it will die a natural death cus that planet don't possess gases and element to sustain life.

SonOfEl:


keep dilly dallying.... you have sealed your fate. I pray God redeems you before its too late.

lol,you just have to bow out by writing back to me this defense mechanism.

SonOfEl:


I never claimed I knew all things about science so stop trying to play a fast one dude...stick to the point and stop meandering..... you left religion simply because you thought you have known too much....you never had real spirituality, you were just a curious church goer.

but you said science don't know life existence,I'm tryna tell you,it is you who don't know science and science explains everything.

aaronson:
but you said science don't know life existence,I'm tryna tell you,it is you who don't know science and science explains everything.

I really pity you dude, keep worshipping your science, I pray God saves you from this grand delusion.

if you have any explanation to give, give it and stop acting like a child...

aaronson:
lol,you just have to bow out by writing back to me this defense mechanism.

bow fire! I just hope you find redemption soon....you have not proven anything, you just keep dilly dallying....anyway, you know you have no proof of life's existence without divine intelligence.... no "charged particles of hydrogen bla bla bla" can prove anything. am still waiting for your proof Mr. science-knows- it-all.

aaronson:
This question complex to give a definite answer to because as I type this,researches is still on going as regard the cause of life and the formation of the universe. Now,previous researches conducted remains valid until a new finding states otherwise,planet earth is 4.5billion years old and its as a result of a big bang theory and evidence of the bigbang is why you have other planets scattered in space,the moon,sun,stars and other planetary bodies is as a result of the explosion of the bang,the cooling off and formation of different gases,which lead to mixture of random gaseous elements to what we have today as life,but it didn't just start like that,this process took stages until life appeared on earth. Now,one would ask,why didn't life occur in other planet,this is what happened.
This formation of life was best formed on earth under earth suitable atmospheric condition.the appropriate amount of Helium,Nitrogen,oxygen etc is what earth possess to make life come appear in it,other planets don't have such a favourable atmosphere for life to exist but lately planet Mars is been tested if it could habit life but No! Only earth is where life adapt to fit in,once life is moved from earth to any other planet,it will die a natural death cus that planet don't possess gases and element to sustain life.

Lol... big bang theory I know you will say that, let's look at some of the school of thought on that theory.
Actually most cosmologists believe that the big bang theory came into being some 13. 7 billion years ago as against the 4. 5 billion years you stated or else if you go by your theory some old theories wouldn't that back up your belief would be fallacy and wouldn't have even been considered today. An atheist and also a Nobel physicist prize winner Steven's view of what the big bang theory is states that in the beginning there was an explosion and 98% of the matter that there is or will ever be was produced. For 2500 years most scientist agreed with Aristotle on the idea of a steady state universe, it has always existed with no beginning and no end, but the bible disagrees. In the 1920s, Belgium astronomer Jorge LeMeyder also an atheist said that the entire universe jumping into existence in a trillionth of a second out of nothing in an unimaginable intense flash of light is how he would expect the universe to respond if God would actually have given the order of the command in Genesis 1 :3, which says let there be light and there was light. In other words the origin of the world unfolded exactly the way one would have expected it after reading Genesis and for 2500 years the bible had it right and science had it wrong.
How do you reconcile that sir?

aaronson:
You fall under the category of No 1

lols see finishing

bxcode:

Lol... big bang theory I know you will say that, let's look at some of the school of thought on that theory.
Actually most cosmologists believe that the big bang theory came into being some 13. 7 billion years ago as against the 4. 5 billion years you stated or else if you go by your theory some old theories wouldn't that back up your belief would be fallacy and wouldn't have even been considered today. An atheist and also a Nobel physicist prize winner Steven's view of what the big bang theory is states that in the beginning there was an explosion and 98% of the matter that there is or will ever be was produced. For 2500 years most scientist agreed with Aristotle on the idea of a steady state universe, it has always existed with no beginning and no end, but the bible disagrees. In the 1920s, Belgium astronomer Jorge LeMeyder also an atheist said that the entire universe jumping into existence in a trillionth of a second out of nothing in an unimaginable intense flash of light is how he would expect the universe to respond if God would actually have given the order of the command in Genesis 1 :3, which says let there be light and there was light. In other words the origin of the world unfolded exactly the way one would have expected it after reading Genesis and for 2500 years the bible had it right and science had it wrong.
How do you reconcile that sir?

if you would re-read my earlier post, I wrote earth is 4.5billion years old and not the cosmostic bang itself,I guess this is clarified!

Secondly,Re-Read my earlier post again,Before I started,I stated the fact that researches was and is still been conducted as regard life existence and the origin of the universes and I even wrote that,my findings remains valid to me until proven invalid by the birth of new findings,just re-read my earlier post and see,because I see your write up as what I already addressed even before writing mine. Just re-read mine and see for yourself.

SonOfEl:


bow fire! I just hope you find redemption soon....you have not proven anything, you just keep dilly dallying....anyway, you know you have no proof of life's existence without divine intelligence.... no "charged particles of hydrogen bla bla bla" can prove anything. am still waiting for your proof Mr. science-knows- it-all.

Anybody who reads your post would laugh so hard like comedy central,how do you expect proof from atheist when the burden of proof rest on christianity,this has gone a long way to highlightening the dept of your ignorance and gullibility.

SonOfEl:


I really pity you dude, keep worshipping your science, I pray God saves you from this grand delusion.

if you have any explanation to give, give it and stop acting like a child...

I'm throwing this question out to the world, An Atheist or christianity believer,Who is proven to be delude?

aaronson:
if you would re-read my earlier post, I wrote earth is 4.5billion years old and not the cosmostic bang itself,I guess this is clarified!

Secondly,Re-Read my earlier post again,Before I started,I stated the fact that researches was and is still been conducted as regard life existence and the origin of the universes and I even wrote that,my findings remains valid to me until proven invalid by the birth of new findings,just re-read my earlier post and see,because I see your write up as what I already addressed even before writing mine. Just re-read mine and see for yourself.

Morning bro, how are you doing today?
I have read your post over again and I see your point but try and re-read mine too especially towards the end so that the question I asked can be answered. Your theory of origin of the earth from what you said first of all can be seen as full of uncertainty and assumptions and not facts as you paint it to be, jettisoning that and assuming that you are right, the bible then has always had it right for 2500 years while science had it wrong because it's the same science that went ahead to agree with Aristotle on what he postulated, I ask again sir how do you reconcile that? What happened along the line of science that made it contradict itself? Let's leave future research out of it for now because if we go into that, I can give you millions of reasons why there is God based on discoveries and our inability to know everything at once with our mere peanut brain.