Bobbysworld28:

Lol!
Actually, it depends on ur definition of death!
A few decades back ppl would have called me stupid if I told them I could chat with u on nairaland on a phone without meeting u, right?
Fill in d gaps

When was the last time you saw and spoke with your dead relatives...?

Speaking with on a phone, at least I'm replying you life and direct for others to see. Can you show me transcript of your last conversation with the late christ..?

Bobbysworld28:

It gets better.
Makes a better world view than a thought concept which has no concrete definition, very loose in defining absolutes, has no idea of d distant past, totally unsure of d future and basically is amorphous! Atheism is a sorry notion actually.

Wetin consign me consign atheism... because I find it barbaric to worship the dead does not make me an atheist...

Bobbysworld28:

Actually, reason does not nullify God or Christ. Just as there are different kinds of light, there are different kinds of reason!
What light u throw at an object will determine the colour u perceive dt object.
So I would not be surprised if ur sense-based reason and my spirit-based reason do not produce d same outputs!

Reason nullifies any god concepts that has human attributes attached to his/her personal feelings. "am a jealous god comes to mind..

Very tiny reason nullifies the idea of a dead man ressurecting... "where is he.. " when last did you see him..? And your answer is..?

Loads of interpretations and confused people I got tired

Sabrwahaqqo:
Loads of interpretations and confused people I got tired

Not so fast! Some people just need to understand basics of bible studies and interpretation.

GooseBaba:


When was the last time you saw and spoke with your dead relatives...?

Speaking with on a phone, at least I'm replying you life and direct for others to see. Can you show me transcript of your last conversation with the late christ..?

Pls get my drift, a few years ago, what we r doing now will be considered 'stupid' but is normal to u, shey?
I may use ur analogy by saying dt ur thinking does not exist because I cant see it. Ur dreams are dead because I cannot see them as well. For crying out loud, u cannot see magnetism, infrared and u cannot hear certain ranges of sound. Dt does not mean they dont exist, do they?
Science is always 'discovering' at best. So ur infantile assumption dt because he cant be seen therefore he is dead is quite amusing.
He is alive, HIS GRAVE SHOWS IT!

Sabrwahaqqo:
Loads of interpretations and confused people I got tired

Exactly! The right word is 'interpretation'.
Dt is man trying to confuse himself. Fortunately, we have the scripture clearly written without d confusion man attaches to it.
For instance, I work in an institution which has policies. In day to day interaction u'd be amazed at different interpretations to laid down processes. So u get tired or do u get d rule books and read for urself or do u seek clarification from competent sources where necessary?

GooseBaba:


Reason nullifies any god concepts that has human attributes attached to his/her personal feelings. "am a jealous god comes to mind..

Very tiny reason nullifies the idea of a dead man ressurecting... "where is he.. " when last did you see him..? And your answer is..?

Again, like I said it depends on d 'reason' we throw on this subject. Who says a god concept cannot have human attributes? Actually, it is oda way round. Humans having 'God-attributes'. If the 'god' is self aware i.e. moves, thinks, talks etc y is it difficult to understand dt he/she/it has standards and rules?
All animate beings have these attributes so it should derive dt their source has such attributes, doesnt it?
Again, ur 'reason' falls short on many levels

brocab:
Are you still finding it hard to understand, God is Spirit, Jesus had clearly explained He was never the Father.

John 17:21 "I that all of them maybe one, Father just as you are in Me' I Am in You. May they also be in us so the world may believe, that you have sent Me.
John 10:29-30 "My Father who has given them to Me, is greater then all, and no-one is able to snatch them out of My Fathers hand. I Am and the Father are one.
Mark 16:19 "After the Lord had spoken to them He was taken up to heaven and He sat at the right Hand of God.
Not as God.
When Jesus said: I Am and the Father are one-meaning Jesus was preferring too, He is connected to His Father, like we are connected to our earthly fathers. Same blood line, don't forget Jesus also Had connected strongly with His Mother Mary.
God and Jesus are one, but not the same. God is Spirit.

At the age of 12 years Jesus said to His Mother and step father Joseph, I Am doing My Fathers business.
He never said: I Am doing My business.

Thanks for the correction.

But, when exactly did the father give Jesus the authority, before he was born? when he was born? abi na after he had died?

Your answer will help me understand how God actually changed.

Thanks for Keeping it civil.

i know with all my heart where my tithe gose to.

Goshen360:


After you find\found Christ, quit religion and be ye followers of Christ!

If Christ followed religion, how can I claim to follow Christ and abandon religion? We are walking the same route.

Annunaki:


It's the bible that said so and not me. except you don't believe the scriptures

Okay then, so you don't have any business asking about commandments because that is law.... go ahead and leave as you like, you are now above the law.

Goodluck.

dmandy:


Okay then, so you don't have any business asking about commandments because that is law.... go ahead and leave as you like, you are now above the law.

Goodluck.

Ur cluelessness is quite amusing and almost annoying.
U have no clue regarding d faith u profess.
When Christian talk abt the law, it is dt given to Moses for the d Jews. It started with d commandments and all the others. That signified a testament (will, covenant etc) and was sealed with the blood of animals.
Another testament however came into force through Jesus. Dts y d law and its ordinances were done away with.

Hope this helps u to stop arguing blindly

Bobbysworld28:

Ur cluelessness is quite amusing and almost annoying.
U have no clue regarding d faith u profess.
When Christian talk abt the law, it is dt given to Moses for the d Jews. It started with d commandments and all the others. That signified a testament (will, covenant etc) and was sealed with the blood of animals.
Another testament however came into force through Jesus. Dts y d law and its ordinances were done away with.

Hope this helps u to stop arguing blindly

Oga, we no de argue.

No more commandments, law, ordinances, injunctions, constitutions...., go and live your life as you like.

dmandy:


Oga, we no de argue.

No more commandments, law, ordinances, injunctions, constitutions...., go and leave as you like.

Na u miss it! Dts wht d book of Romans addresses whn Paul said: Shall we live in iniquity dt Grace will abound? God forbid!
Grace does not breed lawlessness. Grace brings God to live in u, creating a new creation dt operates fully in love. Love is stronger than instructions. Think about it! If u love, u wont go contrary to God. It is d greatest force in d world!

Bobbysworld28:

Na u miss it! Dts wht d book of Romans addresses whn Paul said: Shall we live in iniquity dt Grace will abound? God forbid!
Grace does not breed lawlessness. Grace brings God to live in u, creating a new creation dt operates fully in love. Love is stronger than instructions. Think about it! If u love, u wont go contrary to God. It is d greatest force in d world!

@Bold, that has been my position but you and your friends wants me to believe that nothing matters any more that Christ has withdrawn his commandments. I said it the essence of the laws and commandments is 'love' 'charity'. Read my posts.

Someone in your camp, said any person tithing is going against the commandments of God, and I said NO. That's where I came in. I said it clearly that I don't give 10% of my earnings, but I give.

Bobbysworld28:

Pls get my drift, a few years ago, what we r doing now will be considered 'stupid' but is normal to u, shey?
I may use ur analogy by saying dt ur thinking does not exist because I cant see it. Ur dreams are dead because I cannot see them as well. For crying out loud, u cannot see magnetism, infrared and u cannot hear certain ranges of sound. Dt does not mean they dont exist, do they?
Science is always 'discovering' at best. So ur infantile assumption dt because he cant be seen therefore he is dead is quite amusing.
He is alive, HIS GRAVE SHOWS IT!

Wetin consign magnetism or infrared inside seeing a living human being. If you have to narrate unnecessary story in regards to location of a supposed living being then we know who is decieving himself.

Sometimes I just wonder. "he is alive and his grave shows it.." is he a zombie.?

Bobbysworld28:

Again, like I said it depends on d 'reason' we throw on this subject. Who says a god concept cannot have human attributes? Actually, it is oda way round. Humans having 'God-attributes'. If the 'god' is self aware i.e. moves, thinks, talks etc y is it difficult to understand dt he/she/it has standards and rules?
All animate beings have these attributes so it should derive dt their source has such attributes, doesnt it?
Again, ur 'reason' falls short on many levels

And there you have it... Simple question. See wetin you write. As yourself, who is fooling who..?

dmandy:


@Bold, that has been my position but you and your friends wants me to believe that nothing matters any more that Christ has withdrawn his commandments. I said it the essence of the laws and commandments is 'love' 'charity'. Read my posts.

Someone in your camp, said any person tithing is going against the commandments of God, and I said NO. That's where I came in. I said it clearly that I don't give 10% of my earnings, but I give.

Yes, the essense! I agree
U see those 10 commandments and the laws written were a covenant btwn Jehovah and the Jews he brought out of Egypt and their generations.
U, have no part of it. We dt are not Jews can only draw historical reference from it. The part we come in is thru Christ. And Christ brings grace which nullifies the previous testament (will, commandment, agreement, contract etc)
The challenge has been u kept referring to a contract u had no part of. Tithing is one of the terms of dt contract and it served to support the priesthood of dt contract.
The priesthood this our testament is all of us, so who pays tithes to whom? Dt has bn d crux of argument.

Hope we r on d same page now

GooseBaba:


Wetin consign magnetism or infrared inside seeing a living human being. If you have to narrate unnecessary story in regards to location of a supposed living being then we know who is decieving himself.

Sometimes I just wonder. "he is alive and his grave shows it.." is he a zombie.?

I tot we had some intelligence coming from ur side.
Sorry, u r a confusionist

Bobbysworld28:

I tot we had some intelligence coming from ur side.
Sorry, u r a confusionist

Hehehehe no answer i see..I asked simple question, you begin narrate naruto. You're the one who is confused. A man who is alive has a grave to prove he is alive, but we cannot see him because we cannot see magnetism. Ol boy, I hail ohhh..

Bobbysworld28:

Yes, the essense! I agree
U see those 10 commandments and the laws written were a covenant btwn Jehovah and the Jews he brought out of Egypt and their generations.
U, have no part of it. We dt are not Jews can only draw historical reference from it. The part we come in is thru Christ. And Christ brings grace which nullifies the previous testament (will, commandment, agreement, contract etc)
The challenge has been u kept referring to a contract u had no part of. Tithing is one of the terms of dt contract and it served to support the priesthood of dt contract.
The priesthood this our testament is all of us, so who pays tithes to whom? Dt has bn d crux of argument.

Hope we r on d same page now

Thanks for the understanding.

My only problem was that someone said its a sin to tithe. You don't say that.

And for the records, I am part of the commandments, they are biding on me. It was giving to God's people to guild them, and by the help of Christ's death I have been recruited into the forum of God's people.

dmandy:


Thanks for the understanding.

My only problem was that someone said its a sin to tithe. You don't say that.

And for the records, I am part of the commandments, they are biding on me. It was giving to God's people to guild them, and by the help of Christ's death I have been recruited into the forum of God's people.

R u a Jew? No!
Do u sacrifice animals?
Do u attend synagogue?
R u taught by a Rabbi?
If u do none of d above, how do u partake in a testament you clearly have no part it?

GooseBaba:


Hehehehe no answer i see..I asked simple question, you begin narrate naruto. You're the one who is confused. A man who is alive has a grave to prove he is alive, but we cannot see him because we cannot see magnetism. Ol boy, I hail ohhh..

My error was to take u serious.
It is regretted.
Accept my apologies.

Bobbysworld28:

R u a Jew? No!
Do u sacrifice animals?
Do u attend synagogue?
R u taught by a Rabbi?
If u do none of d above, how do u partake in a testament you clearly have no part it?

Easy, we no de fight.

Its me that we are talking about here o.

First, I am not a jew.

Second, I don't have to sacrifice animal. Christ's sacrifice covers that, yet I repeat it in memory of him.

third, I attend holy mass (I guess its synonymous with synagogue)

fourth, I am taught by a pastor (I guess he does the work of Rabi for me)

Finally, Old testament has been renewed to a new one, but the commandment of the lord is still perfect and more alluring than Gold. Christ came that the old might become new, by 'fulfilling' the law, not abolishing it.

Bobbysworld28:

My error was to take u serious.
It is regretted.
Accept my apologies.

Apologies accepted.. Only a confused mind takes a primitive book serious and claims a dead man in the book is alive. Again, I. Hail ohhh... Hehehe

dmandy:


Thanks for the understanding.

My only problem was that someone said its a sin to tithe. You don't say that.

And for the records, I am part of the commandments, they are biding on me. It was giving to God's people to guild them, and by the help of Christ's death I have been recruited into the forum of God's people.

heb8.4-10.kjv For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

The gospel of Jesus Christ is nt the gospel of CONTENTION!

Bobbysworld28:


heb8.4-10.kjv For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Good, the passage clearly stated that, it wasn't the law that was faultless, but the people who chose to break the law.

Arihodo:
The gospel of Jesus Christ is nt the gospel of CONTENTION!

On d contrary, d interpretation by men is.

Arihodo:
The gospel of Jesus Christ is nt the gospel of CONTENTION!

The Truth.

dmandy:


Good, the passage clearly stated that, it wasn't the law that was faultless, but the people who chose to break the law.

If u tried not to be too slippery, u will find out it was both. Therefore, it was changed for one with better promises.
Y hold on to dt which had changed?