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Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 8:34pm On Sep 22, 2015
In the BBC news. It was about Pope Francis in Cuba since 3-4 days now. Some Gay catholic members were saying would Jesus Discriminate? See what the Pope said.

"Talking about gay priests, the Pope said who am i to judge"? Is he right about this? Does this means he is saying gay is allowed? Of cause he cannot judge, but cant he defend the true doctrine of the bible? Like the apostles did. Nothing is surprising in this last days anymore.

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by misreal(m): 8:37pm On Sep 22, 2015
hmmm
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by lampardizik(m): 10:07pm On Sep 22, 2015
Truly though,who is he to judge?
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 10:15pm On Sep 22, 2015
lampardizik:
Truly though,who is he to judge?

Yes, but what would a gay preach about Christ? To be gay is a sin. God said the prayer of a sinner is an abomination to him. How much more the sinner preaching Gods word.. undecided

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by lampardizik(m): 10:25pm On Sep 22, 2015
plappville:


Yes, but what would a gay preach about Christ? To be gay is a sin. God said the prayer of a sinner is an abomination to him. How much more the sinner preaching Gods word.. undecided



Are you implying that the pope is gay?
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by Nobody: 3:48am On Sep 23, 2015
Some of us know who the man of sin is...We know his plans; all he wants is to take over the world. But that would only happen when Jesus Christ has raptured His bride. The time is nigh people; all these are signs of the end...the falling away and the appearance of the man of sin....


2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Ofcourse he will tolerate and allow all forms of filthiness into the "religion of Christianity" so that the world would love and see him as ambassador of peace. But true followers of Christ are not of this world and would never seek to be loved by it! True believers never compromise for any reason....If you want to remain a homosexual do not attach Jesus to it. Jesus died to pull sinners out of sin and not to keep them in it for the sake of "tolerance"....

John 15:19

If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

And about him not judging shows that he is not spiritual enough but he is who he is(carnal) and not what he claims to be or what the world sees him to be...The spiritual man judgeth all things by the word of God and he himself is not judged by any man as he wouldn't be found guilty of anything (1 Corinthians 2:15). How can a priest be homosexual and the church not judge him by the word of God? It's a pity! Smh

Work out your salvation with fear and trembling brethren; many are called, but a few are chosen!

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by kokoA(m): 7:56am On Sep 23, 2015
plappville:


Yes, but what would a gay preach about Christ? To be gay is a sin. God said the prayer of a sinner is an abomination to him. How much more the sinner preaching Gods word.. undecided
Have you ever thought of people who were born like that? They naturally have feelings for same sex right from childhood. Will you say God made a mistake by creating them that way? I detest the act of homosexuality, it is gross but I don't hate them. Any man of God who speaks evil or judge any of God's creation is not a man of God (Quote me anywhere). Condemn the act not the actor. The catholic church has thrown her doors open to everybody to come in and meet Jesus. How can sinners or gays be converted if all what the church does is demonize them? The pope is responsible over a billion souls so he was being careful not to attract the wrath of God.

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by italo: 8:08am On Sep 23, 2015
plappville:
In the BBC news. It was about Pope Francis in Cuba since 3-4 days now. Some Gay catholic members were saying would Jesus Discriminate? See what the Pope said.

"Talking about gay priests, the Pope said who am i to judge"? Is he right about this? Does this means he is saying gay is allowed? Of cause he cannot judge, but cant he defend the true doctrine of the bible? Like the apostles did. Nothing is surprising in this last days anymore.

Can you provide a link to your story? No.

Why? Because your story is either a lie or a misinterpretation.
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 1:40pm On Sep 23, 2015
kokoA:
Have you ever thought of people who were born like that? They naturally have feelings for same sex right from childhood. Will you say God made a mistake by creating them that way? I detest the act of homosexuality, it is gross but I don't hate them. Any man of God who speaks evil or judge any of God's creation is not a man of God (Quote me anywhere). Condemn the act not the actor. The catholic church has thrown her doors open to everybody to come in and meet Jesus. How can sinners or gays be converted if all what the church does is demonize them? The pope is responsible over a billion souls so he was being careful not to attract the wrath of God.

Why ordain a gay man to lead a church then? Yes we have no right to stop even a juju man from coming to church if he desires to do a two face knife thing. But the pope/pastor of that church ought not to make such a fellow a leader of any group in the church. Thats my point. God can touch the heart of a sinner at any given time. Dont forget we have to follow the examples of the apostles. See in the book of Acts 8:1-25. These verses describe Philip’s evangelism in Samaria and the conversion of Simon the sorcerer. He rebuked Simon because he refused to turn away from his sin. Why should the church accept Homosexuality and even go so far to ordain a gay to be a Bishop.? did christ not told the protitude woman to go and sin no more? Oh yes, the church is flowing with the modern system. Everything now seems easy and everyo can now claim to be a christian. But the bible still stands. Who is a true Christoan..? He who is led by the spirit of Christ. Is gay a sin to God? If Gods spirit cannot be in the gay man, how then can he lead Gods people in the true part.

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 1:42pm On Sep 23, 2015
italo:


Can you provide a link to your story? No.

Why? Because your story is either a lie or a misinterpretation.

You can call it whatever u like. I dont have time to discuss with you. All you do is insult people whenever catholic is discussed. I dont know if you are a pope self. grin

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by kokoA(m): 2:27pm On Sep 23, 2015
plappville:


Why ordain a gay man to lead a church then? Yes we have no right to stop even a juju man from coming to church if he desires to do a two face knife thing. But the pope/pastor of that church ought not to make such a fellow a leader of any group in the church. Thats my point. God can touch the heart of a sinner at any given time. Dont forget we have to follow the examples of the apostles. See in the book of Acts 8:1-25. These verses describe Philip’s evangelism in Samaria and the conversion of Simon the sorcerer. He rebuked Simon because he refused to turn away from his sin. Why should the church accept Homosexuality and even go so far to ordain a gay to be a Bishop.? did christ not told the protitude woman to go and sin no more? Oh yes, the church is flowing with the modern system. Everything now seems easy and everyo can now claim to be a christian. But the bible still stands. Who is a true Christoan..? He who is led by the spirit of Christ. Is gay a sin to God? If Gods spirit cannot be in the gay man, how then can he lead Gods people in the true part.
Priest of the church don't marry ma, so the argument of being gay or not doesn't even arise. A priest is not suppose to engage in any sexual activity (same sex or normal) whatsoever, that's the sacrifice they've made to God. So there is nothing like a"gay priest" or church lead

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 3:59pm On Sep 23, 2015
kokoA:
Priest of the church don't marry ma, so the argument of being gay or not doesn't even arise. A priest is not suppose to engage in any sexual activity (same sex or normal) whatsoever, that's the sacrifice they've made to God. So there is nothing like a"gay priest" or church lead

Umm, you are deffending people you dont even know. Have you never found yourself breaking a vow u made with God since you met Him? These people are human stop been decieved by thier coloured garments. You have been brainwashed that to mk heaven, you must be a catholic hence this defence here and there. The same problem the muslims have. Die for allah u go to heaven, thats why they wear bomb to kill hundreds at a time.

A 2002 Los Angeles Times nationwide poll of 1,854 priests (responding) reported that 9 percent of priests identified themselves as homosexual, and 6 percent as "somewhere in between but more on the homosexual side." Asked if a "homosexual subculture" (defined as a "definite group of persons that has its own friendships, social gatherings and vocabulary"wink existed in their diocese or religious order, 17 percent of the priests said "definitely," and 27 percent said "probably." 53 percent of priests who were ordained in the last 20 years (1982-2002) affirmed such a subculture existed in the seminary when they attended.[14]

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Roman_Catholic_priests

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by kokoA(m): 4:12pm On Sep 23, 2015
plappville:


Umm, you are deffending people you dont even know. Have you never found yourself breaking a vow u made with God since you met Him? These people are human stop been decieved by thier coloured garments. You have been brainwashed that to mk heaven, you must be a catholic hence this defence here and there. The same problem the muslims have. Die for allah u go to heaven, thats why they wear bomb to kill hundreds at a time.



 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Roman_Catholic_priests
I'm not defending anybody, I'm telling what the law of priesthood says. The fact that some people break the law does not men the law is not there. Even among the twelve disciples, there was judas. Of course they are human and some go against their vow just like we have good and bad pastors, imans, prophets etc. Woe unto you if you use the sin of a few to judge everyone.

You are right, I am a catholic, but I am not a fanatic. I've not spoken to you as a catholic, rather I spoke to you as a christian. If your christianity is such that you judge others based on their sexuality, way of life, etc then you may as well be a pagan. Jesus came and ate with tax collectors, made friends with prostitutes and associated with the ungodly, yet he was the son of God.
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by An2elect2(f): 4:38pm On Sep 23, 2015
kokoA:
I'm not defending anybody, I'm telling what the law of priesthood says. The fact that some people break the law does not men the law is not there. Even among the twelve disciples, there was judas. Of course they are human and some go against their vow just like we have good and bad pastors, imans, prophets etc. Woe unto you if you use the sin of a few to judge everyone.

You are right, I am a catholic, but I am not a fanatic. I've not spoken to you as a catholic, rather I spoke to you as a christian. If your christianity is such that you judge others based on their sexuality, way of life, etc then you may as well be a pagan. Jesus came and ate with tax collectors, made friends with prostitutes and associated with the ungodly, yet he was the son of God.

Thank you for that beautiful distinction smiley we can all see that Catholicism and Christianity are two parallel beliefs.

Jesus accepted sinners to save them from their sins first before adding them to his church.

This is the biblical pattern : We go out to preach to sinners in love> God grants them repentance from their sins and salvation through Christ Jesus > Next, they are added to the church.

Today we have turned everything around! We bring sinners in their state of unrepentance into the church, declare them as new members! sad and we assume they will turn to God properly afterwards! Red flag!

Today we see the consequences of our wicked actions and disobedience to the word of God. The church...the modern church is a mess. cry

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by italo: 7:59pm On Sep 23, 2015
plappville:


You can call it whatever u like. I dont have time to discuss with you. All you do is insult people whenever catholic is discussed. I dont know if you are a pope self. grin

Sorry ma, if you feel offended.

"Misrepresentation" is not an insult.

It simply means that another meaning was given to what the Pope said...other than the true meaning.
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by italo: 8:03pm On Sep 23, 2015
I remember Jesus ordained Judas...Jesus ate with him and lived with him. Jesus shared secrets with him. Jesus took him as a friend, servant, disciple, brother.

Yet Jesus always knew that Judas was a thief and a betrayer.

If it was Pope Francis that kept Judas as a friend, haters would castigate him.
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 11:06pm On Sep 29, 2015
kokoA:
I'm not defending anybody, I'm telling what the law of priesthood says. The fact that some people break the law does not men the law is not there. Even among the twelve disciples, there was judas. Of course they are human and some go against their vow just like we have good and bad pastors, imans, prophets etc. Woe unto you if you use the sin of a few to judge everyone.

You are right, I am a catholic, but I am not a fanatic. I've not spoken to you as a catholic, rather I spoke to you as a christian. If your christianity is such that you judge others based on their sexuality, way of life, etc then you may as well be a pagan. Jesus came and ate with tax collectors, made friends with prostitutes and associated with the ungodly, yet he was the son of God.

This Law of priesthood is it from the bible?
Jésus ate with sinnees yes. Are you Jesus? Jesus also observed the sabbath . Do you observe it today?

Didnt Jesus told the protitude woman to go and sin no more? Did Jesus ever toy with the word of God because He was afriad to lose people? He calls his diciples. "Little flocks" why did He? The bible said it. Wide is the way that leads to death. Anything is welcome to the house of God. Since the body of Christ is now polluted with gay leaders etc. What is the difference between the Christ like Man and the ordinary man?
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 11:12pm On Sep 29, 2015
italo:
I remember Jesus ordained Judas...Jesus ate with him and lived with him. Jesus shared secrets with him. Jesus took him as a friend, servant, disciple, brother.

Yet Jesus always knew that Judas was a thief and a betrayer.

If it was Pope Francis that kept Judas as a friend, haters would castigate him.

Was Judas made to lead the other disciples? Of course Jesus knew Judas right from day one. There is nothing wrong in anyone to come to God. The house of God is open for all. The issue here is. "Making a gay lead the service" gay pastor will see everything wrong to preach against gay. Infact. He will encourage it.
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 11:14pm On Sep 29, 2015
italo:


Sorry ma, if you feel offended.

"Misrepresentation" is not an insult.

It simply means that another meaning was given to what the Pope said...other than the true meaning.

Umm, you seem to be the only one that understand the Pope.

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 11:17pm On Sep 29, 2015
An2elect2:


Thank you for that beautiful distinction smiley we can all see that Catholicism and Christianity are two parallel beliefs.

Jesus accepted sinners to save them from their sins first before adding them to his church.

This is the biblical pattern : We go out to preach to sinners in love> God grants them repentance from their sins and salvation through Christ Jesus > Next, they are added to the church.

Today we have turned everything around! We bring sinners in their state of unrepentance into the church, declare them as new members! sad and we assume they will turn to God properly afterwards! Red flag!

Today we see the consequences of our wicked actions and disobedience to the word of God. The church...the modern church is a mess.
cry

Words!!!!

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by italo: 11:27am On Sep 30, 2015
plappville:


Was Judas made to lead the other disciples? Of course Jesus knew Judas right from day one. There is nothing wrong in anyone to come to God. The house of God is open for all. The issue here is. "Making a gay lead the service" gay pastor will see everything wrong to preach against gay. Infact. He will encourage it.
What is "gay?"
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by ebenice(m): 12:23pm On Sep 30, 2015
grin
italo:
What is "gay?"
according to riely freeman.."GAY IS GAY" grin
italo:
What is "gay?"
according to riely freeman.."GAY IS GAY"
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 1:30am On Oct 01, 2015
italo:
What is "gay?"

See it na...

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 1:32am On Oct 01, 2015
More....

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 1:51am On Oct 01, 2015
Romans 1:26-27:
"For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions: for their women exchanged the natural use for that which is against nature. And in the same way also the men abandoned the natural use of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error."

[size=14pt]PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES GAY CHRISTIAN ARE FAKING THEMSELVES NOT THE BIBLE. BECAUSE GOD MADE IT CLEAR. STOP SAYING GOD IS OK WITH IT OR WHO AM I TO JUDGE. YES WE ARE ALL SINNERS, NO ONE IS PERFECT. IF WE SIN DELIBERATELY WE DO NOT MERIT GOD'S FORGIVENESS. [/size]

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 2:09am On Oct 01, 2015
italo:
What is "gay?"
Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent. First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful. Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between a male and a female. The first mention of marriage, Genesis 2:24, describes it as a man leaving his parents and being united to his wife.

No one should come and say Judge not because we are talking about the Body of Christ. 1 Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 2:42am On Oct 01, 2015
Heb 10:26
For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for.

2 Peter 2:20–21
20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world bthrough the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21 For dit would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by italo: 7:22am On Oct 01, 2015
plappville:

Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent. First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful. Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between a male and a female. The first mention of marriage, Genesis 2:24, describes it as a man leaving his parents and being united to his wife.

No one should come and say Judge not because we are talking about the Body of Christ. 1 Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

What if a man has attraction to other men but doesn't desire them because he is fighting this attraction to keep the precepts of the Lord.

1. Is he gay?

2. Should Christians judge him?
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by italo: 7:27am On Oct 01, 2015
plappville:


See it na...

I just want to point out to you that the people in your pictures and all the congregations that accepts gay marriage and gay sex are your fellow protestants/pentecostals.

The Catholic Church condemns homosexual acts as sinful...and rejects "gay unions."

Yet you ignore your false prophets and falsely accuse the Pope.
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 2:56pm On Oct 01, 2015
italo:


What if a man has attraction to other men but doesn't desire them because he is fighting this attraction to keep the precepts of the Lord.

1. Is he gay?

2. Should Christians judge him?


He is terribly naive or deliberately misrepresenting himself to have attraction for others. A man should not be attracted to a man at the first place. If this occurs and he is a believer, He must separate his lustful longings from his rational brain and make an honest appraisal of his relationship with God.

YES, gay can be a man who is sexually attracted to other men.

 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22) If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death;

Note: temptation is unavoidable, So is sin inexcusable....

Matthew 5:28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

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Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(f): 2:57pm On Oct 01, 2015
italo:


I just want to point out to you that the people in your pictures and all the congregations that accepts gay marriage and gay sex are your fellow protestants/pentecostals.

The Catholic Church condemns homosexual acts as sinful...and rejects "gay unions."

Yet you ignore your false prophets and falsely accuse the Pope.

How do you mean my fellow?

And how did I accused the Pope?
Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by Owliver(m): 3:06pm On Oct 01, 2015
OP pleas state your point. asin yhe actual message you want to pass accross with this thread

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