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Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by miqos02(m): 9:41am On Nov 09, 2015
hmmm
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by oribi(m): 9:43am On Nov 09, 2015
donhils:
Since the announcement of this fine on MTN, many Nigerians have rejoiced and danced over it. But set prejudice aside, what wrong has MTN really done to anybody? I'll answer that, None. MTN is and will still remain the all round best network provider here in Nigeria until Glo that is supposed to be the leader (having that indigenous edge) steps up to the responsibility. So why all the hates? Let's talk about NCC for a bit, what exactly were they thinking slamming such huge amounts on a company that's here to help? Has NCC lived up to its responsibilities? All networks being nuisance to the customers thru unsolicited texts and calls, stealing from the unsuspecting public. Have they moved to stop all these nonsense? What is NCC doing to improve the quality of services? Have they looked into the exorbitant rates of data in the industry? What have they done to better the lives of Nigerians? After MTN have paid 1.4trillion, then what next? What is the spirit behind this fine? And Nigeirans are rejoicing.

YOUR JUST TOO INTELLIGENT NOT TO BE QUOTED

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Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by mbulela: 9:43am On Nov 09, 2015
Acidosis:


Nigerians are generally incompetent and corrupt. MTN operates in about 5 countries. Why is this happening only in Nigeria? Its simple, because the CEO is a Nigerian. No Nigerian will ever rise to that seat ever again.
You head dey there.
The group will micromanage the Nigerian operation for the next 10 years. Even to buy printer toner, they will need to get approval from group board.

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Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by Nobody: 9:44am On Nov 09, 2015
mbulela:
SON is the most substandard Nigerian govt agency.
Buhari's magic wand can have some effect on them. Hopefully!
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by oribi(m): 9:45am On Nov 09, 2015
MYMINDER:


MTN needs Nigeria more than Nigeria needs them. It is simple. Keep your $5.2B and lose your operating licence. I assure you that losing the Nigeria market is worth a lot more and MTN will rather pay than leave. Nigeria is the 7th most populous nation in the world. It's not a market to be overlooked even if you want to. Everything has a beginning and end in life, including impunity. MTN realised too late.

FOR A MINUTE ASK YOURSELF IF YOU HAD SHARES WITH MTN OR WAS PART OF IT'S ORGANIZATION OUTFIT,WILL YOU SAY SUCH
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by Osasnidas(m): 9:47am On Nov 09, 2015
better breeze don blow fowl yansh don open.. empty hen don see iron hand..
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by tyor: 9:48am On Nov 09, 2015
Since this fine was placed, MTN service has improved and they longer charge ur airtime after ur data plan is exhausted
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by oribi(m): 9:50am On Nov 09, 2015
I FEEL FOR MTN NOT BECAUSE I HAVE AN AFFILIATION WITH MTN BUT BECAUSE NCC IS BIASED AND THAT FINE IS OUTRAGEOUS.SO ONLY MTN NIGERIA VIOLATED THE LAW?IF MTN HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING FOR NIGERIA AT LEAST NIGERIANS ARE EMPLOYED BY MTN
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by arumay: 9:50am On Nov 09, 2015
QatarPlayboy:
I hope the whole of mtn as a company would follow their ceo footstep and resign also. Just like those Biafra insects, mtn can go to not just hell bt the deepest and hottest part of it if they wish.


idiot
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by lomprico(m): 9:51am On Nov 09, 2015
Brandnew2:
Heads are rolling I guess.


Meanwhile Standards organization of Nigerian SON should look into this menace of substandard tech accessories being sold in the market. http://gidilink..com.ng/2015/11/all-this-fake-memory-cards.html

Below is a 2 and 8 GB memory card that got corrupted within 1 week while i lost sensitive information on it.

So painful. angry
You bought it cheap abi?
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by Nobody: 10:00am On Nov 09, 2015
arumay:


idiot
Biafra must go. but nt wit any s/s state. no oil for una.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by Nobody: 10:02am On Nov 09, 2015
lomprico:
You bought it cheap abi?
I paid the usual price. I believe they sell the fake and original ones at the same price.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by mbulela: 10:03am On Nov 09, 2015
donhils:
Since the announcement of this fine on MTN, many Nigerians have rejoiced and danced over it. But set prejudice aside, what wrong has MTN really done to anybody? I'll answer that, None. MTN is and will still remain the all round best network provider here in Nigeria until Glo that is supposed to be the leader (having that indigenous edge) steps up to the responsibility. So why all the hates? Let's talk about NCC for a bit, what exactly were they thinking slamming such huge amounts on a company that's here to help? Has NCC lived up to its responsibilities? All networks being nuisance to the customers thru unsolicited texts and calls, stealing from the unsuspecting public. Have they moved to stop all these nonsense? What is NCC doing to improve the quality of services? Have they looked into the exorbitant rates of data in the industry? What have they done to better the lives of Nigerians? After MTN have paid 1.4trillion, then what next? What is the spirit behind this fine? And Nigeirans are rejoicing.

You have made very valid points but I also think you have muddled issues here.

NCC has been complacent, then suddenly they decide to act and you blame them for not cleaning there house before acting.
Secondly, NCC did not just cook up the fine. It was in the MOU that the regulator signed with the operators at the time they decided to do SIM registration (an activity that I think the last NCC administration used for fraudulent purposes but that is a discussion for another day). The fine was clearly stated in the rules and regulation all parties signed. I think MTN thought NCC will remain docile as they had always been and would have willingly signed for a fine of a million rands for each non-disconnected SIM.

I also believe that MTN is the best all round network.

I also do not agree with Nigerians who are rejoicing over this episode. It smells of xenophobia. MTN have largely operated within the law. It is the law enforcers who have been docile. MTN has been a good organization for the harnessing of talents in the telco industry. Nigerians have been treated fairly (as i understand it) and are assuming leadership roles across all operations of the company.

While I think NCC has to step up, I struggle to find fault in their application of an agreed rule in this particular issue.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by MYMINDER(m): 10:05am On Nov 09, 2015
oribi:


FOR A MINUTE ASK YOURSELF IF YOU HAD SHARES WITH MTN OR WAS PART OF IT'S ORGANIZATION OUTFIT,WILL YOU SAY SUCH

Shareholders of Bank PHB and Afribank lost their shares for nothing and all unclaimed dividends also vanished. MTN will continue as a going concern which leaves shareholders with some value. The above bank shareholders got zero and unclaimed dividends also went up in smoke. Live and learn.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by mbulela: 10:05am On Nov 09, 2015
MYMINDER:


MTN needs Nigeria more than Nigeria needs them. It is simple. Keep your $5.2B and lose your operating licence. I assure you that losing the Nigeria market is worth a lot more and MTN will rather pay than leave. Nigeria is the 7th most populous nation in the world. It's not a market to be overlooked even if you want to. Everything has a beginning and end in life, including impunity. MTN realised too late.

Dude, we are not North Korea. We are an organised country within a globalized community.
What sort of hate will induce such draconian rules?
Being the 7th most populous country does not give us a right to operate outside the ambit of the law.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by oribi(m): 10:09am On Nov 09, 2015
MYMINDER:


Shareholders of Bank PHB and Afribank lost their shares for nothing and all unclaimed dividends also vanished. MTN will continue as a going concern which leaves shareholders with some value. The above bank shareholders got zero and unclaimed dividends also went up in smoke. Live and learn.

PHB AND AFRIBANK WHAT CAUSED THEIR PROBLEM WAS IT A FINE?LIVE AND LEARN MORE
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by sage2(m): 10:11am On Nov 09, 2015
What is the CEO, MTN Nigerian still waiting for? He should have been the first to resign.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by mbulela: 10:17am On Nov 09, 2015
sage2:
What is the CEO, MTN Nigerian still waiting for? He should have been the first to resign.
Nigerians don't resign.
It is not our portion.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by godspeed: 10:19am On Nov 09, 2015
donhils:
Since the announcement of this fine on MTN, many Nigerians have rejoiced and danced over it. But set prejudice aside, what wrong has MTN really done to anybody? I'll answer that, None. MTN is and will still remain the all round best network provider here in Nigeria until Glo that is supposed to be the leader (having that indigenous edge) steps up to the responsibility. So why all the hates? Let's talk about NCC for a bit, what exactly were they thinking slamming such huge amounts on a company that's here to help? Has NCC lived up to its responsibilities? All networks being nuisance to the customers thru unsolicited texts and calls, stealing from the unsuspecting public. Have they moved to stop all these nonsense? What is NCC doing to improve the quality of services? Have they looked into the exorbitant rates of data in the industry? What have they done to better the lives of Nigerians? After MTN have paid 1.4trillion, then what next? What is the spirit behind this fine? And Nigeirans are rejoicing.

You see, comments like this make u very unpopular.

Nigerians always think with their emotions.

I have keenly followed this story since MTN was slammed with that gargantuan fine and the reactions of most Nigerians to it has left me bitterly disappointed. Like u rightly asked; why do we hate MTN this much?

We seem to have forgotten in a hurry the efforts former president obasanjo made to lure foreign investors to Nigeria during his first term. He was globe trotting and practically begging these investors to come to Nigeria.

Now we seem to have what we want and we are very comfortable to the extent that we have become very hostile to these same companies we begged to come here.

When did we suddenly get this feeling of entitlement? Imagine people saying that 'most of this foreign coys were willfully taking Nigeria for a ride because no one had in the past demonstrated the political will to protect the interest of Nigeria'(kx above). Let me ask you; where were we before MTN came in? And how do our own companies treat us?

We seem to have forgotten the days of NITEL in a hurry. Tell me what kind of services were we enjoying then? What could we or did we do to them? How much did NCC ever fine NITEL then for poor services or for being in violation? When exactly did we start getting this feeling of entitlement?

If we are talking about companies taking Nigerians for a ride, tell me which company does that more than our very own PHCN or whatever they are called now. Tomorrow if a foreign firm buys PHCN and we have power cut for just 1 hour I we'll begin to castigate them.

I will not join the debate whether MTN needs Nigeria more than Nigeria needs her. But every responsible country of the world always do whatever is within their power to ensure that corporate organizations thrive. These companies create the wealth of nations.

The fine on MTN is ridiculous, even if MTN is in violation and are supposed to be fined,NCC should have put a cap on the fine to be paid and not an impossible amount that will practically put MTN out of business.

To put the fine in perspective, 1 trillion is one quarter of our current budget, it's more than the budget of some 20 states in Nigeria put together and its more than double the annual turnover of MTN Nigeria.

Nigeria please let reason prevail

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Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by MYMINDER(m): 10:20am On Nov 09, 2015
oribi:


PHB AND AFRIBANK WHAT CAUSED THEIR PROBLEM WAS IT A FINE?LIVE AND LEARN MORE

It was executive recklessness that led to the banks going up in smoke. MTN disobeyed a rule it was aware of and a signatory to. This is not executive recklessness. MTN did not expect what they signed to be applied even if MTN violated. This has bee n the scenario in the past. Leadership changes at the top sometimes makes people sit up and start working. MTN flouted Nigerian rules at the wrong time.

The point I am trying to make to you with my earlier comment is that losing value as a shareholder did not start today. Don't make yours something special.

Change of leadership does a lot. Nigeria has bee not abused by everybody; citizens and foreigners. It has to stop someday and MTN became the first victim.

As South Africa's deputy president said. MTN should obey the rules in countries it operates.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by ephi123(f): 10:23am On Nov 09, 2015
donhils:
Since the announcement of this fine on MTN, many Nigerians have rejoiced and danced over it. But set prejudice aside, what wrong has MTN really done to anybody? I'll answer that, None. MTN is and will still remain the all round best network provider here in Nigeria until Glo that is supposed to be the leader (having that indigenous edge) steps up to the responsibility. So why all the hates? Let's talk about NCC for a bit, what exactly were they thinking slamming such huge amounts on a company that's here to help? Has NCC lived up to its responsibilities? All networks being nuisance to the customers thru unsolicited texts and calls, stealing from the unsuspecting public. Have they moved to stop all these nonsense? What is NCC doing to improve the quality of services? Have they looked into the exorbitant rates of data in the industry? What have they done to better the lives of Nigerians? After MTN have paid 1.4trillion, then what next? What is the spirit behind this fine? And Nigeirans are rejoicing.

MTN is not here to help anyone, they are here to make money simple.
Other points you made I agree with, particularly the quality of service and rates.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by Lasveg(m): 10:23am On Nov 09, 2015
How can one contact mtn customer care?, dey r deducting all my credit anytime i recharge
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by Dharnchuks(m): 10:24am On Nov 09, 2015
Ya'll juz be careful bout calling customer care... You might just get billed for that..
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by oribi(m): 10:24am On Nov 09, 2015
MYMINDER:


It was executive recklessness that led to the banks going up in smoke. MTN disobeyed a rule it was aware of and a signatory to. This is not executive recklessness. MTN did not expect what they signed to be applied even if MTN violated. This has bee n the scenario in the past. Leadership changes at the top sometimes makes people sit up and start working. MTN flouted Nigerian rules at the wrong time.

The point I am trying to make to you with my earlier comment is that losing value as a shareholder did not start today. Don't make yours something special.

Change of leadership does a lot. Nigeria has bee not abused by everybody; citizens and foreigners. It has to stop someday and MTN became the first victim.

As South Africa's deputy president said. MTN should obey the rules in countries it operates.


I AGREE WITH YOU ON SOME POINTS SHARED BUT THAT FINE IS CERTAINLY AND HONESTLY OUTRAGEOUS PLUS I DON'T HAVE SHARES WITH MTN grin..ONE QUICK QUESTION WHERE HAS ALL THE FINE NCC HAS COLLECTED GONE TO?

Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by ephi123(f): 10:27am On Nov 09, 2015
kingviny:
S/HE who laffs when a stranger is being frustrated in his country should not cry when same fate befalls his/her relations abroad.

Who will fine PHCN for poor power supply ?

who will fine NNPC for oil importation rackets ?

who will fine Dangote Cement for not complying to the FG's directive to reduce cement cost ?

who will fine the oil marketers who constantly cause fuel scarcity thereby causing hardship on Nigeria ?

who will fine the President for failled promises and for failling to constitute his cabinet asap when the new Canadian PM did his
within the week he took oath of office thereby hitting the ground running on policy formulation and execution.

e.t.c

Even if MTN had violated your rules should you use a sledge hammer to kill a mouse? N1trillion! for a socially responsible company like MTN is too much. It will kill that company and it will also send wrong signals with respect to FDI. N100 Billion max is still ok to effect your corrective punishment without hurting the economic eco-system of that telecom giant!

When they decide to sack half of their Nigerian employees and they automate their jobs ( this is technology age ) what do you think would happen to the families that would be affected? so much for tackling un-employment! now, influx to the labour market will increase. At worst, MTN share holders would loose some monies but for Nigerian families connected to MTN, they would loose their means of livelihood.

NIGERIA ... THINK!

So for the sake of a few, we should give MTN a pass right?
I don't understand this sympathy towards MTN, when South Africans were attacking Nigerians barely how many months ago, did South Africans show any sympathy to Nigeria?

Please let us stick to the game. MTN broke the rules and should pay the price end of story.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by MYMINDER(m): 10:29am On Nov 09, 2015
Reason should prevail by MTN. Pay your fine for violating rules you are a signatory to. This policy of misbehaving and begging does not work in Africa.

JP Morgan has been fined over $9B so far in 2015 alone for various regulatory infractions. They have sucked it up, learnt from it and business continues. MTN should do the same or leave Nigeria.

The fine is not compulsory to pay. MTN is not in a position of strength and trying to argue from that angle Will further alienate them from every neutral who stands for paying the fine for doing the violation. There is new sheriff in town and the terms of the fine are not arbitrary!

Unemployment rate is 25% in South Africa and trust me if they leave Nigeria many jobs will be lost in SA also.

The first thing you all need to accept is MTN needs Nigeria a lot more than Nigeria needs MTN. Simple and humble fact. Deal with it or leave. Life always has options just like deciding to go to he'll or heaven. The actions to do so take place here on earth. Nothing is nu force. MTN has the freedom to pay or leave.

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Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by ephi123(f): 10:29am On Nov 09, 2015
oribi:
I FEEL FOR MTN NOT BECAUSE I HAVE AN AFFILIATION WITH MTN BUT BECAUSE NCC IS BIASED AND THAT FINE IS OUTRAGEOUS.[b]SO ONLY MTN NIGERIA VIOLATED THE LAW?[/b]IF MTN HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING FOR NIGERIA AT LEAST NIGERIANS ARE EMPLOYED BY MTN

Yes. It was ONLY MTN that violated the law. Other telecomms companies had deactivated the sim cards as they should have done.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by oribi(m): 10:29am On Nov 09, 2015
ephi123:


MTN is not here to help anyone, they are here to make money simple.
Other points you made I agree with, particularly the quality of service and rates.

YES IT IS A BUSINESS AGREED BUT AT LEAST THEY EMPLOY NIGERIANS AND PUT MEAL ON MANY TABLES IN NIGERIA
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by oribi(m): 10:30am On Nov 09, 2015
ephi123:


Yes. It was ONLY MTN that violated the law. Other telecomms companies had deactivated the sim cards as they should have done.

BECAUSE NCC SAID SO?
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by ephi123(f): 10:31am On Nov 09, 2015
oribi:


YES IT IS A BUSINESS AGREED BUT AT LEAST THEY EMPLOY NIGERIANS AND PUT MEAL ON MANY TABLES IN NIGERIA

I understand where you are coming from but this short term approach never ever pays in the long run. If we continue using the excuse of they employ Nigerians so therefore let them get away with what they like, the nation will NOT progress. Although it is painful, this just has to be done and in the long term is in the best interest of the country.
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by oribi(m): 10:33am On Nov 09, 2015
ephi123:


I understand where you are coming from but this short term approach never ever pays in the long run. If we continue using the excuse of they employ Nigerians so therefore let them get away with what they like, the nation will NOT progress. Although it is painful, this just has to be done and in the long term is in the best interest of the country.

YOUR INTELLIGENT AND I APPRECIATE YOU
Re: MTN Group CEO Dabengwa Resigns Over N1.04tn Fine by ephi123(f): 10:34am On Nov 09, 2015
oribi:


BECAUSE NCC SAID SO?

Yes.
If you have any other information we the public don't know, please disclose.

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