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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Allosaurus: 4:52pm On Nov 09, 2015
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funmijoyb:
undecided Yeeeebos must u focefully attached to other people's culture and hate yours?

Here are the words igbo writers claims is theirs all over the internet:

1.Oyinbo or Oyibo; Peeled skin or white Animals
2. Akata; Wild, Sturborn, black American or Nigerian American
3.Ogbeni Mr Man
4.Ashewo, asewo or Ashawo.
5.Wahala Problem
6.Abi; "Question mark"
7.Shebi; is it?
8.Pele; please
9.Omo; Child
10.Oja; Market
11.Shey is it?
12.Mumu
13, Ode

More
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Useless, oblong-headed sshemale from the South West! How have the Igbos stolen Yoruba words? None of those words can even be found in a standard Igbo Literature book. Shame on you and your useless, hateful Yoloba family

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 4:42pm On Nov 13, 2015
somegirl1:


You've conveniently avoided my question regarding the yoruba word for "trouble".
Even when Igbos borrow/ acquire words from where they are domiciled for the sake of integration or because we simply never had such words in our language, we never completely throw ours away.

Btw yorubawood and hausawood are not nollywood. They are spin-offs of nollywood, formed by Igbos, which was and still is predominantly Igbo.

The popularity of yoruba movies stops at the Benin border and Hausa movies are hardly ever watched outside of the north but nollywood movies are appreciated universally and nollywood actors known across the country.
Igbo doesnt have film industry, where is it in Enugu, imo, Nnewi, Onitcha? say lagos na lagoon u go land
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 4:45pm On Nov 13, 2015
Allosaurus:
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Useless, oblong-headed sshemale from the South West! How have the Igbos stolen Yoruba words? None of those words can even be found in a standard Igbo Literature book. Shame on you and your useless, hateful Yoloba family
are you blind when ur igbo brothers were saying d word
Oga
Ashawo
Oyinbi or oyibo
Akata
Wahala
Akara

are all ibo word? of which non is Igbo word
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by somegirl1: 6:00pm On Nov 13, 2015
Onijagidijagan:

Igbo doesnt have film industry, where is it in Enugu, imo, Nnewi, Onitcha? say lagos na lagoon u go land

You've made no sense

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by bigfrancis21: 6:37pm On Nov 13, 2015
How can people claim a venture or company they do not even the least control or have an inch of a say in its affairs and still claim they 'own' it? undecided Is that how you own a company? When you have no power in the company? undecided

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Stillfire: 9:08pm On Nov 13, 2015
Sorry OP, the south easterner does not use those words in their daily cultural colloquialism. Just one or two are debatable and only because you can find root words in both languages.
I grew up in Lagos and when I use some of those terms to the South easterner, they have no clue to what I'm saying.
Same thing with the 'amala' issue. I eat it, but the South easterner will not touch it with a barge pole. grin
But I can see that you are on overtime on your bigotry and hate judging from your contributions on Nairaland.
Grow up it's not that serious.


While growing up

Akamu is Igbo, Ogi is the Yoruba equivalent
Agidi is the Igbo equivalent to Eko (with a dot under the 'e' and 'o') in Yoruba.

Unless you all have changed it

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Allosaurus: 9:39am On Nov 14, 2015
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Onijagidijagan:

are you blind when ur igbo brothers were saying d word
Oga
Ashawo
Oyinbi or oyibo
Akata
Wahala
Akara

are all ibo word? of which non is Igbo word
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Fvck you! They're Yoruba words and generally used. What about egusi, oha and ugu? Are they not Igbo words that are used by many? Go and rest, please. You don't even know what you're saying

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 9:31pm On Nov 14, 2015
somegirl1:


You've made no sense
answer me now? where is igbo film industry located? simple question shocked shocked
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 9:44pm On Nov 14, 2015
Allosaurus:
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Fvck you! They're Yoruba words and generally used. What about egusi, oha and ugu? Are they not Igbo words that are used by many? Go and rest, please. You don't even know what you're saying
Fucck you more! Check the previous comments you will see where your brothers/sisters are claiming
Oyinbo, Akata, Whala as theirs to popularize the igbo tribe. that's theft.
any igbo who has lived in yoruba land for a very long time will know this words are ours not yeeeebos

how can they claim the word Oyinbo came from Onye Igbo? this clowns are funny
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by bigfrancis21: 11:52pm On Nov 14, 2015
Onijagidijagan:

Fucck you more! Check the previous comments you will see where your brothers/sisters are claiming
Oyinbo, Akata, Whala as theirs to popularize the igbo tribe. that's theft.
any igbo who has lived in yoruba land for a very long time will know this words are ours not yeeeebos

how can they claim the word Oyinbo came from Onye Igbo? this clowns are funny

Oyibo is probably from the mimic of 'onye Igbo' by the Europeans who pronounced it as 'oye ibo'.

I don't see why you have any solid reason to be claiming 'oyibo'. It has established already that Oyibo is to Igbo while Oyinbo is to Yoruba. The usage of 'oyibo' by the Igbos has been documented in books since as early as the 17th century/18th century and is not a recent 'import' into Igboland. The onus is on Yorubas to provide documented evidence about the origin of 'oyinbo' from them. No Igbo person is claiming 'oyinbo'. You are the only person huffing around this thread creating much ado about nothing when no Igbo person is claiming such.

FYI: Igbos and Luos of far away Kenya in East Africa share so many words similar in pronunciations, spelling and meaning. Names which are found among the Luo and Igbo include: Okeke; Amadi; Oketche; Okpala (Opala); Dede (Dende) etc.

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by bigfrancis21: 12:51am On Nov 15, 2015
Onijagidijagan:

answer me now? where is igbo film industry located? simple question shocked shocked

Lagos (Alaba), Anambra (Upper Iweka Onitsha) and Aba (pound road and Ogbor Hill).

Nollywood is a tripod balance across all 3 states mentioned.

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by somegirl1: 1:52am On Nov 15, 2015
Onijagidijagan:

answer me now? where is igbo film industry located? simple question shocked shocked

Ditto

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by ezeagu(m): 4:08pm On Nov 15, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Lagos (Alaba), Anambra (Upper Iweka Onitsha) and Aba (pound road and Ogbor Hill).

Nollywood is a tripod balance across all 3 states mentioned.

Onijagidijagan

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 7:31pm On Nov 15, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Lagos (Alaba), Anambra (Upper Iweka Onitsha) and Aba (pound road and Ogbor Hill).

Nollywood is a tripod balance across all 3 states mentioned.
see ur lyf, u r too scare to say igbo doesn't have nollywood or igbowood.
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by ezeagu(m): 7:31pm On Nov 15, 2015
Weak reply bro. You for just use style unfollow the thread.

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by bigfrancis21: 2:00am On Nov 16, 2015
ezeagu:
Weak reply bro. You for just use style unfollow the thread.

grin grin

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Allosaurus: 10:10am On Nov 17, 2015
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Onijagidijagan:

Fucck you more! Check the previous comments you will see where your brothers/sisters are claiming
Oyinbo, Akata, Whala as theirs to popularize the igbo tribe. that's theft.
any igbo who has lived in yoruba land for a very long time will know this words are ours not yeeeebos

how can they claim the word Oyinbo came from Onye Igbo? this clowns are funny
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Your mom must be the most useless woman on earth for giving birth to a curse like you rather than selling you off to Boko Haram. Did I argue with you with those words? So what's my own, and why are you involving me in a matter that has nothing to do with me? Thunder fire you YOLOBA oblong head there!

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by lawani: 10:16pm On Dec 11, 2015
scholes0:


What do you call Horse?
How come the Yoruba got their word for Horse from Arabic and you didnt?

There is a claim that the Yoruba were the first to domesticate the horse. So the word may have originated from here. Then most Hausas were speaking Niger Congo languages in the past.
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by lawani: 10:35pm On Dec 11, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Corn in Igbo language is 'oka'. Isn't corn in Yoruba supposed to be 'agbado' or something? Why are you suddenly ignoring the central yoruba words for these items, which are supposed to be the standard Yoruba words for those items, and claiming the Igbo words as yours?

Please, akamu is not a Yoruba word. Stop this language theft. Agidi also is not Yoruba. In Igboland, there are 2 different types of Agidi, the white agidi and the reddish type called Agidi Jollof. I never liked Agidi for one day but I grew up hearing my grandmothers refer to it as only Agidi. Igbos have just one word for Agidi and Akamu, Yorubas have multiple of them indicating a borrowing of these words into the language. Just as they borrowed wahala from Arabic. Languages often borrow from one another and your people may have borrowed the word from the popular Nigerian usage which comes from Igbo.

Do not let me school you on the seniority of the Igbo civilization over the Yoruba civilization. Because if I am ready, it will take up the entire next 3 pages of this thread.

Yorubas cannot even provide proof that these words are theirs. Most popular soups and food in Nigeria today are all of Igbo origin: Ogbono, Egwusi, Okwuru, Ora, Okazi, Utazi etc.

Or maybe you'll tell me that 'love wan tin tin' (from love nwa nti nti in Igbo) in some Yorubas songs nowadays is Yoruba too? undecided
Yoruba and Igbo were thesame language originally. Dont fret yourself. Oka can also mean maize in Yoruba in oka baba. Ask anyone. A maize used to make red pap. Read Prof Bolaji Aremo's book on how Igbo and Yoruba became different languages. There are hundreds of similarities. Our ancestors spoke were one people who spoke same language. DNA is more or less thesame.
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by lawani: 11:42pm On Dec 11, 2015
On Nollywood, it cant be disputed that it was an Igbo trader that pioneered selling videos on the streets, prior to that we used to watch seasonals on TV stations mainly. What Igbos pioneered is selling on streets and the industry was not known as Nollywood back then but taking it to the streets was a commendable innovation. However proffessional film making was pioneered by people like late Hubert Ogunde, Isola Ogunshola, Duro Ladipo and co. Then theatre artists like Profs Ola Rotimi and Soyinka had worldwide audience, though they were not business men, yet Prof Soyinka got a Nobel prize because of his European audience. These people contributed to film making in Nigeria in no small measure. Hubert Ogunde's films Koto Orun, Aye Akamara remain evergreen cinema classics. Never forget them too but the traders are also important for their daring. Traders who plough their money in can not be discounted. They did for film makers what record labels had earlier done for people like Osadebay, KSA, Fela and etc.

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by jumissy: 7:39am On Jun 29, 2016
Asiri is definitely a Yoruba word. Most Yoruba words you can break it down to the etymology (unless it's such an ancient Yoruba word that the breakdown is not known and in that case there is usually no other word for it Yoruba). In Yoruba asiri means something that was lifted to uncover, to see. As in something that was covered and the covering was lifted to discover something. A - something, si - lifted/opened, ri - to see/discover/uncover. How the other languages got the same word to mean secret, I don't know, but can they break down the etymology in their own langauge and is there no other word in their language for secret?
macof:


I just don't believe "Asiri" as yoruba say it came from another language.

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by macof(m): 9:31am On Jun 29, 2016
jumissy:
Asiri is definitely a Yoruba word. Most Yoruba words you can break it down to the etymology (unless it's such an ancient Yoruba word that the breakdown is not known and in that case there is usually no other word for it Yoruba). In Yoruba asiri means something that was lifted to uncover, to see. As in something that was covered and the covering was lifted to discover something. A - something, si - lifted/opened, ri - to see/discover/uncover. How the other languages got the same word to mean secret, I don't know, but can they break down the etymology in their own langauge and is there no other word in their language for secret?


my thoughts exactly

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by agadez007(m): 5:49pm On Jun 30, 2016
Why are yoruba claiming igbo word like "ogiri"

They were saying ogiri ijebu,, what happened to the yoruba "iru"?

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by bigfrancis21: 8:34pm On Jul 04, 2016
agadez007:
Why are yoruba claiming igbo word like "ogiri"

They were saying ogiri ijebu,, what happened to the yoruba "iru"?

For real? Even Ogiri too? undecided

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by IkpuMmadu: 8:48pm On Jul 04, 2016
Yoruba borrowed many words from igbo ..even the term yoruba is a recent term....the tribe known as Yoruba wasn't known for anything until Hausa came and caked them Yoruba and they took up the name .


It was anonga ...if Hausa can give them names and they took it why won't they take igbo words like ogini, ogiri, okwute for stone and many more

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by lawani: 5:05am On Jul 05, 2016
IkpuMmadu:
Yoruba borrowed many words from igbo ..even the term yoruba is a recent term....the tribe known as Yoruba wasn't known for anything until Hausa came and caked them Yoruba and they took up the name .


It was anonga ...if Hausa can give them names and they took it why won't they take igbo words like ogini, ogiri, okwute for stone and many more


The word Yoruba was first used by people from Songhai empire whom the Yoruba call Imale meaning Mali. Their traders were allowed to build mosques in Yoruba cities in the past. The word was first found in the works of Ahmed Baba, a Professor from the university at Timbuctu in the 15th century. It means 'people who live towards the South who would not submit to Islam' or 'thugs of the South'. It was popularised by Hausa scholars, poets and etc in written works, it was at first used for the Oyo alone whose capital was called Katunga by Hausas or Oyo ile by Yorubas but it was later used for us all by the mid 20th century.


What do we call ourselves and land? We call ourselves by the name of our subnations like Ijebu, Ijesa, Egba, Ajase, Nago, Idasa, Oyo, Igbomina and etc. Each land is also called that for instance I am an Ijesa man from Ijesa land but all Yoruba land is Ile kaaro o jiire. That is the word meaning the land where we greet ourselves kaaro O jiire. That land is from Southern Niger state to the Atlantic and West to Eastern Ghana. Then there is another designation which is Ife. We are Ife people. This includes Yoruba, Fon, Ewe and Ijaw on the East side of the Niger but Ijaw are separate. When Nigeria is divided. I can say all Ife people West of the Niger will stand together, then I believe the Bariba will join the Ife people, Benin republic and Togo will do thesame. Bariba was a powerful kingdom allied with the Oyo in the 19th century and both did not fall to the Fulbe jihad. So naturally they continue with that. Some Nupe were in the Fulbe empire while others South of the Niger are not. So, probably they go with Hausa Fulani or stay alone but the Bariba, Yoruba of Niger and Kwara will go with the Ife people without a doubt. A Bariba nation will emerge like in the past.

So, before the word Yoruba came into use, we used 'ile kaaro ojiire' and we use Ife. Ife is more all encompassing as ile kaaro o jiire is for where Yoruba is spoken.

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by IkpuMmadu: 5:43am On Jul 05, 2016
lawani:



The word Yoruba was first used by people from Songhai empire whom the Yoruba call Imale meaning Mali. Their traders were allowed to build mosques in Yoruba cities in the past. The word was first found in the works of Ahmed Baba, a Professor from the university at Timbuctu in the 15th century. It means 'people who live towards the South who would not submit to Islam' or 'thugs of the South'. It was popularised by Hausa scholars, poets and etc in written works, it was at first used for the Oyo alone whose capital was called Katunga by Hausas or Oyo ile by Yorubas but it was later used for us all by the mid 20th century.


What do we call ourselves and land? We call ourselves by the name of our subnations like Ijebu, Ijesa, Egba, Ajase, Nago, Idasa, Oyo, Igbomina and etc. Each land is also called that for instance I am an Ijesa man from Ijesa land but all Yoruba land is Ile kaaro o jiire. That is the word meaning the land where we greet ourselves kaaro O jiire. That land is from Southern Niger state to the Atlantic and West to Eastern Ghana. Then there is another designation which is Ife. We are Ife people. This includes Yoruba, Fon, Ewe and Ijaw on the East side of the Niger but Ijaw are separate. When Nigeria is divided. I can say all Ife people West of the Niger will stand together, then I believe the Bariba will join the Ife people, Benin republic and Togo will do thesame. Bariba was a powerful kingdom allied with the Oyo in the 19th century and both did not fall to the Fulbe jihad. So naturally they continue with that. Some Nupe were in the Fulbe empire while others South of the Niger are not. So, probably they go with Hausa Fulani or stay alone but the Bariba, Yoruba of Niger and Kwara will go with the Ife people without a doubt. A Bariba nation will emerge like in the past.

So, before the word Yoruba came into use, we used 'ile kaaro ojiire' and we use Ife. Ife is more all encompassing as ile kaaro o jiire is for where Yoruba is spoken.


Lies ..Songhai what? So Songhai people named you
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by agadez007(m): 2:00pm On Jul 05, 2016
bigfrancis21:


For real? Even Ogiri too? undecided
yeah

i was searching for the preparation of Ogiri online,bumped into this site,they even said it has southwestern origin,i initiatially thought it was a joke,searched again

and i was seeeing the same thing

Ogiri ijebu
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by agadez007(m): 2:05pm On Jul 05, 2016
lawani:



The word Yoruba was first used by people from Songhai empire whom the Yoruba call Imale meaning Mali. Their traders were allowed to build mosques in Yoruba cities in the past. The word was first found in the works of Ahmed Baba, a Professor from the university at Timbuctu in the 15th century. It means 'people who live towards the South who would not submit to Islam' or 'thugs of the South'. It was popularised by Hausa scholars, poets and etc in written works, it was at first used for the Oyo alone whose capital was called Katunga by Hausas or Oyo ile by Yorubas but it was later used for us all by the mid 20th century.


What do we call ourselves and land? We call ourselves by the name of our subnations like Ijebu, Ijesa, Egba, Ajase, Nago, Idasa, Oyo, Igbomina and etc. Each land is also called that for instance I am an Ijesa man from Ijesa land but all Yoruba land is Ile kaaro o jiire. That is the word meaning the land where we greet ourselves kaaro O jiire. That land is from Southern Niger state to the Atlantic and West to Eastern Ghana. Then there is another designation which is Ife. We are Ife people. This includes Yoruba, Fon, Ewe and Ijaw on the East side of the Niger but Ijaw are separate. When Nigeria is divided. I can say all Ife people West of the Niger will stand together, then I believe the Bariba will join the Ife people, Benin republic and Togo will do thesame. Bariba was a powerful kingdom allied with the Oyo in the 19th century and both did not fall to the Fulbe jihad. So naturally they continue with that. Some Nupe were in the Fulbe empire while others South of the Niger are not. So, probably they go with Hausa Fulani or stay alone but the Bariba, Yoruba of Niger and Kwara will go with the Ife people without a doubt. A Bariba nation will emerge like in the past.

So, before the word Yoruba came into use, we used 'ile kaaro ojiire' and we use Ife. Ife is more all encompassing as ile kaaro o jiire is for where Yoruba is spoken.
so,agberoism and thuggery in yorubaland didnt start today?
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by lawani: 9:13pm On Jul 05, 2016
agadez007:
yeah

i was searching for the preparation of Ogiri online,bumped into this site,they even said it has southwestern origin,i initiatially thought it was a joke,searched again

and i was seeeing the same thing

Ogiri ijebu

Iru is different from ogiri. Iru is two types iru woro that is still in seed form and iru pete that is mashed. They give a strong taste to soups. Ogiri is a kind of iru but it has a very strong smell. So if someone has a mouth odour, they may say he is ologiri lenu meaning he has ogiri in his mouth because of the somewhat offensive odour of the soup condiment called ogiri. There are many shared words in Yoruba and Igbo. I believe it may be more than shared words between Yoruba and Benin despite that the Yoruba do not share boundary with Igbos and Igbos were not known to the Yorubas before the 20th century.
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by macof(m): 10:37pm On Jul 05, 2016
lawani:


Iru is different from ogiri. Iru is two types iru woro that is still in seed form and iru pete that is mashed. They give a strong taste to soups. Ogiri is a kind of iru but it has a very strong smell. So if someone has a mouth odour, they may say he is ologiri lenu meaning he has ogiri in his mouth because of the somewhat offensive odour of the soup condiment called ogiri. There are many shared words in Yoruba and Igbo. I believe it may be more than shared words between Yoruba and Benin despite that the Yoruba do not share boundary with Igbos and Igbos were not known to the Yorubas before the 20th century.



Igbos would have definitely been known to Yorubas. . through bini and igala

another point is that Olukumi yoruba people live amongst igbo speaking groups

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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by bigfrancis21: 12:58am On Jul 06, 2016
agadez007:
yeah

i was searching for the preparation of Ogiri online,bumped into this site,they even said it has southwestern origin,i initiatially thought it was a joke,searched again

and i was seeeing the same thing

Ogiri ijebu

With the popularity of Igbo meals all over Nigeria, it is easy to see an adoption of Igbo spices such as Ogiri, ofor, achi etc. into daily parlance of Yorubas, and other languages. Ogiri or Ogili (in Anambra) is an authentic Igbo word. Ogiri Ijebu is simply an adoption of ogiri from Igbo language and an addition of Ijebu to indicate where it is from. I'm made to understand that the yoruba equivalent for ogiri is 'iru'. Just as we have 'gari Ijebu', it doesn't mean 'gari' is a yoruba word. Only the 'ijebu' in the phrase is. In the same vein, okra soup (from the igbo word, okwuru) is natively called ila asepo in yoruba.

With the popularity of igbo native soups such as ugu, uziza, utazi etc. all over Nigeria, maybe tomorrow there would be an argument about the origin of those soups.

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